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3355.21 SPEAKER53355.21 -3355.21 Aye.3355.21

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3377.11 SPEAKER43377.11 -3377.11 I3377.11 motion3377.36 that3377.68 we3377.84 adjourn.3377.99

3379.84 SPEAKER13379.84 -3379.84 Second.3379.84 Seconded.3380.56 Okay.3381.28 There's3381.72 been3381.88 a3381.96 motion3382.04 made3382.52 to3382.76 adjourn.3382.92 So3383.56 by3383.8 roll3383.96 call,3384.28 member,3384.52 Gerard?3385.24 Aye.3386.44 Member3386.84 Dale?3387.16 Aye.3387.64 Member3388.28 Odoma?3388.84

3390.45 SPEAKER33390.45 -3390.45 Aye.3390.45

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