Watertown Committee on Budget and Fiscal Oversight
Monday March 2, 2026
VINCENT15.21 PICCIRILLI15.21 -15.21 COMMITTEE15.21 ON15.21 BUDGET15.21 AND15.21 FISCAL15.21 OVERSIGHT15.21 CHAIR15.21 -15.21 Alright.15.21 So15.62 let's15.86 call16.1 this16.34 meeting16.5 to16.89 order.17.05 This19.14 is19.38 the19.54 committee19.7 of20.02 the20.1 budget20.18 fiscal20.49 oversight.20.89 I'm22.41 Vinny22.57 Piccirilli.22.82 I'm23.38 the23.54 chair.23.7 Emily24.18 Izzo,24.65 to25.91 my26.07 right26.23 is26.55 the26.79 vice26.95 chair,27.11 and27.43 Caroline27.59 Bays27.91 to28.15 my28.31 left28.47 is28.71 the29.03 secretary.29.27 The30.23 purpose30.39 of30.71 tonight's30.95 meeting31.43 is31.99 to32.23 make32.71 recommendations32.95 on33.75 the35.67 fiscal35.83 year36.15 2736.55 through38.15 3139.27 capital39.99 improvement40.39 program.40.87 So,43.38 we44.09 had44.25 two44.41 prior44.66 meetings.44.89 We45.3 went45.45 through45.7 everything,46.49 and47.45 I48.66 had48.89 written50.25 up50.49 some50.66 notes51.38 with51.61 Doug51.85 about52.34 recommendations53.93 for56.72 us57.04 to57.08 vote57.12 on.57.52 So57.68 there's57.92 five58.8 pages.59.12 There's59.52 only59.84 3660.16 this60.8 year60.96 compared61.68 to62.08 last62.56 year.63.2 So,64.56 the65.2 good65.44 news65.6 is65.92 we66.16 actually66.32 crossed66.72 a67.04 lot67.2 of67.36 stuff67.44 on67.76 the67.92 list,68.08 which68.4 was68.56 very,69.85 very70.09 satisfying.70.49 And71.69 so,71.85 so72.81 thank73.06 you73.22 Mr.74.58 Manager74.89 for74.89 kind75.13 of75.45 getting75.61 a76.49 lot76.66 of76.81 these76.97 old77.13 projects77.38 just77.94 up78.33 and78.49 running78.66 and79.06 crossed80.25 off80.66 the80.81 list.80.97 So.83.39
83.79 Alright.83.79 So,83.79 I84.43 don't84.59 know84.67 if84.83 everybody's84.99 got85.39 a85.63 copy85.71 of85.95 them.86.11 I86.43 emailed87.15 around87.55 or87.95 printed92.27 out.92.67 So,92.99 alright.93.63 So94.03 the94.35 first94.83 recommendation,95.07 and,98.53 again,98.77 I99.01 just99.08 want99.25 to99.56 say99.56 thank99.81 you100.05 Mr.100.28 Manager.100.77 We100.77 went101.01 through101.17 this101.41 and101.65 just101.81 cleaned103.48 up103.81 a103.92 few104.05 odds104.28 and104.53 ends,104.69 which106.13 had106.84 a107.09 minor107.09 impact107.48 on108.61 the109.09 debt109.33 worksheet.109.65 So,110.28 number112.82 one113.06 is113.3 to113.54 reconfirm113.54 the113.94 prior114.02 recommendation114.34 and114.82 proceed114.82 with115.14 the115.3 fiscal115.38 year115.7 $23,400,000-dollar117.14 loan117.46 order117.78 for118.1 IT118.26 consisting119.38 of119.86 the120.02 infrastructure121.54 improvements122.1 and122.58 the122.74 permitting122.98 and123.38 transparency123.62 dashboards.124.5 So125.38 if125.69 anybody126.33 has126.66 any126.81 questions128.25 or128.97 things,130.81 let131.13 me131.38 know.131.46 Otherwise,131.69 you're132.09 just132.25 working132.81 through133.22 it.133.78 And,134.18 also,134.5 as134.74 part134.9 of135.06 that135.13 recommendation,135.38 we're135.78 going136.01 to136.25 cancel136.25 the137.22 $100,000137.46 for138.74 document139.61 scan.140.18 Okay?141.51 Number143.75 two144.07 is144.71 to145.11 reconfirm145.11 the145.67 prior146.07 recommendation146.39 to146.87 proceed147.03 with147.35 the147.43 fiscal147.59 year147.99 '24.148.31 $288,432149.67 proposed154.13 loan154.6 order154.84 for155.08 IT155.25 consisting155.88 of156.37 the156.53 infrastructure156.93 improvements157.49 at157.97 $138,432.160.21
160.53 And160.53 permitting160.53 and160.93 transparency161.16 dashboards161.81 at162.37 $150,000.162.6 As164.6 part164.76 of165 that,165.16 we165.41 canceled,165.72 from168.03 the168.27 previous168.43 year's168.91 recommendation.170.19 Document172.35 scanning172.75 at173.15 $200,000,173.31 Munis175.79 system176.19 enhancements176.51 at176.99 $150,000,177.23 and178.11 the178.27 Parker178.35 Annex178.91 Technologies179.63 at180.19 $500,000.183.85 Okay?185.69 Number185.69 three186.01 is186.5 to186.81 reconfirm186.97 the187.53 prior187.62 recommendation187.94 for188.5 the188.74 fiscal188.9 year189.22 '24189.38 $190,000192.34 proposed193.62 loan194.01 order194.25 from194.41 the194.57 fire194.66 department194.9 for195.46 the195.69 main196.53 station197.17 interior197.57 repairs198.05 at198.37 $100,000198.61 and199.33 a199.57 generator199.81 replacement200.29 at200.85 $90,000.203.81 Number203.81 four,204.05 reconfirm204.37 the204.85 prior205.01 recommendation205.25 to205.81 proceed205.89 with206.21 the206.37 fiscal206.45 year206.77 24,207.01 $2,100,000207.97 loan209.17 order209.41 for209.65 connector209.81 roads,210.21 longer210.53 streets210.85 in211.53 accordance211.69 with212.09 the,212.33 public213.53 works213.84 committee214.17 report214.56 from215.13 2022215.44 for216.25 the216.49 reconstruction216.65 of217.28 Forest217.44 and217.69 Springfield217.84 Streets218.41 in218.72 2026219.04 to220.89 2020.221.37 Number223.94 five.224.66
224.9 CAROLINE224.9 BAYS-224.9 COMMITTEE224.9 ON224.9 BUDGET224.9 AND224.9 FISCAL224.9 OVERSIGHT224.9 SECRETARY224.9 -224.9 Can224.9 I224.98 ask225.06 a225.22 question225.3 about225.62 that?225.86 I'm227.3 just227.38 curious227.62 because228.26 I228.66 know228.74 that229.06 for229.46 years230.9 and231.22 years231.38 and231.54 years,231.7 it232.02 was232.1 $2,000,000,232.58 I233.22 believe.233.3 Right?233.94 And234.18 then234.42 we234.58 upped234.74 it234.98 to235.14 $2,100,000.237.14
239.25 PICCIRILLI239.25 -239.25 So239.25 if239.41 you239.81 look240.22 at240.46 it,240.61 for243.81 all243.97 those244.22 road244.38 projects,244.61 you245.09 know,245.18 they245.33 stayed245.5 the245.81 same245.9 for246.22 a246.38 long246.46 period246.69 of247.01 time.247.09 For248.29 many248.53 years,249.25 the249.66 local249.9 road250.22 project250.46 was250.85 two251.09 and251.25 a251.33 half251.41 million251.66 dollars.251.97 And252.38 then252.53 a253.31 couple253.47 of253.63 years253.71 ago,253.95 the254.27 public254.43 works254.75 committee255.07 recommended255.47 with255.87 inflation256.11 that256.59 we256.75 actually257.07 increase258.35 it.258.83 So258.91 I've259.15 actually259.23 if259.47 you259.55 look259.71 at259.87 the259.95 road260.11 project,260.35 you'll260.67 see260.83 Yeah.261.39 You'll261.79 see261.95 it262.59 goes262.75 up.262.99 The263.71 longer264.19 roads264.59 and264.91 connectors265.07 go265.71 up266.03 $100,000266.59 every267.87 year268.19 for268.82 inflation269.06 as269.63 well269.87 as270.11 the270.19 local270.35 road270.67 program270.99 goes271.38 up.271.63
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288.08 PICCIRILLI288.08 -288.08 The288.08 same288.24 amount288.48 of288.72 work.288.8 So289.12 yeah.289.28 So290.24 that's290.48 why290.72 we,290.96
291.6 BAYS291.6 -291.6 I291.6 just291.68 couldn't291.92 remember.292.32
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323.59 PICCIRILLI323.59 -323.59 Let's323.59 see323.83 what323.99 happens324.15 with324.47 the324.63 price324.71 of324.95 oil.325.11 So325.43 which327.07 is327.19 okay.328.19 So328.51 number328.75 five329.07 is329.39 to329.79 reconfirm329.79 the330.35 prior330.44 recommendation330.75 to331.24 proceed331.24 with331.63 the331.88 fiscal332.04 year332.35 25,332.6 $350,000333.07 proposed334.27 loan334.68 order334.91 for335.39 IT335.63 consisting336.6 of337.07 the337.24 $200,000337.39 for338.51 infrastructure338.75 and340.04 $150,000343.58 for343.98 permitting343.98 and344.38 transparency344.54 dashboards.345.26 And348.54 part348.78 of349.34 that,349.42 we349.66 also349.9 canceled351.98 four352.3 line352.3 items352.54 from352.94 IT,353.18 which353.58 is353.82 document353.98 scanning354.38 of354.7 $200,000354.94 Munis356.16 enhancements356.56 for357.04 $100,000,357.37 Parker358.49 Annex358.96 technology359.29 for359.93 $200,000,360.16 and361.69 digital361.93 equity362.25 and362.56 broadband362.81 for363.29 $250,000.367.04 So367.04 number367.37 6,367.69 reconfirm369.26 the369.74 prior369.9 recommendation370.22 and370.62 proceed370.78 with371.1 the371.26 fiscal371.42 year371.82 25371.98 $693,000.372.54 Proposed375.1 loan375.58 order375.82 for376.06 the376.22 police376.38 department376.62 consisting377.5 of,378.06 the378.54 trainer378.62 simulator379.5 computer380.14 system,380.62 replacement381.66 for382.54 $93,000382.7 and,384.56 the385.68 fire386 three386.4 range387.75 HVAC388.15 upgrade388.88 at389.19 $600,000.389.28 Wait.390.4 Did390.72 we390.88 cancel?391.04
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681.07 PICCIRILLI681.07 -681.07 Yep.681.07 Okay.682.41 Number687.37 eight,687.69 reconfirm687.93 the689.37 prior689.61 recommendation689.93 for690.49 this690.73 perceived690.97 as691.37 school691.45 departments691.69 fiscal692.17 year692.49 25,692.73 $95,000694.01 proposed695.13 loan695.61 order695.85 for696.17 district696.33 security696.89 system697.01 enhancements.697.13 And699.7 number699.93 nine700.25 is700.58 to700.89 reconfirm700.89 the701.45 prior701.53 recommendation701.93 to702.41 proceed702.58 with702.89 the702.98 fiscal703.05 year703.45 25,703.62 $40,000704.89 proposed705.77 loan706.17 order706.41 or706.65 transfer706.74 funds707.21 for707.53 the707.7 skating707.77 rink708.17 enclosure,708.41 soffit,708.98 and709.62 outside709.77 walls.710.33 Number713.02 10,713.34 we713.66 confirm713.82 the714.14 prior714.3 recommendation714.62 to715.18 proceed715.18 with715.5 the715.66 fiscal715.74 year716.06 25,716.3 $500,000717.82 proposed718.7 loan719.1 order719.34 for719.58 the719.66 Mount719.82 Auburn719.98 Street720.38 nonparticipatory720.86 funds.722.06 I'm725.92 just726 assuming726.25 we've727.29 not727.61 gotten727.85 any728.16 bills729.45 for729.76 this729.92 yet,730.16 or730.57 is730.8 this,730.97 I731.52 know731.68 this731.85 has732.09 been732.16 on732.33 the732.49 list732.57 for732.88 a733.85 while,734 but734.33 is734.64 that734.8 coming735.13 towards735.45 the735.76 end735.92 of736.09 the736.16 project?736.33
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