Watertown Committee on Rules and Ordinances
Tuesday May 5, 2026
NICOLE15.62 GARDNER15.62 -15.62 RULES15.62 &15.62 ORDINANCES15.62 COMMITTEE15.62 CHAIR15.62 -15.62 It15.62 is15.94 06:30,18.02 we18.34 call18.34 this18.34 meeting19.14 to19.3 order.19.3 It19.7 is19.77 a19.86 meeting19.93 of20.89 the20.98 rules21.05 and21.3 ordinances21.45 committee,21.45 and22.18 we're22.41 here22.57 today22.82 to23.14 discuss23.3 proposed24.65 changes25.21 to25.69 our25.77 noise26.09 ordinance.26.57 This27.77 is28.01 the28.09 third28.25 meeting29.05 we're29.29 having29.45 on29.69 this29.93 topic.30.09 Present34.25 in34.49 the34.49 room34.57 are35.13 myself,35.13 Nicole36.25 Gardner,36.49 chair,36.81 Lisa37.21 Feltner,37.61 vice38.01 chair,38.33 John39.21 Gannon,39.37 secretary,40.65 and41.28 also41.52 Councilor43.6 Vinny43.92 Piccirilli,43.92 and43.92 then43.92 I44.09 see44.24 we44.41 have44.56 some45.05 residents45.28 coming46.09 on46.41 Zoom47.2 as47.52 well47.68 as47.92 Abby48.09 Myers,48.41 using48.8 Metro49.05 Public49.45 Health.49.68 And49.92 thankfully,50.09 we'll50.24 be50.41 joining50.56 with50.88 the50.96 valleys.51.05 And52.53 thank52.69 you53.01 all,53.17 sir,53.33 for53.57 joining54.13 us.54.45 So,56.37 what56.53 I56.77 thought56.85 we57.09 would57.25 do57.41 today,57.73 if58.21 this58.29 makes58.45 sense58.61 to58.85 everybody59.01 else,59.33 is59.57 we59.81 pick60.05 up60.29 on60.45 the60.61 open60.77 items61.17 that61.57 we61.73 had61.97 for63.17 a63.41 pin63.57 in63.73 at64.37 our64.61 last64.61 meeting,64.93 work65.81 our66.13 way66.29 through66.45 those.66.69 Many67.7 of67.94 those68.03 have68.34 had68.42 your68.58 questions68.83 for69.22 you,71.94 and72.19 then72.42 continue72.58 to73.14 fill73.22 a73.47 word73.55 with75.22 the75.47 ordinance.75.7 We76.19 had76.34 stopped77.38 our80.52 first80.76 you81.48 know,81.64 Friday81.88 95033.83.8 So84.28 we'll84.52 pick84.68 up84.92 there85.08 later,85.48 but85.8 I'd86.04 like86.28 to86.44 make86.68 sure86.76 if86.92 there87 is87.24 other87.32 things87.56 that88.28 have88.52 watched88.68 a88.92 little89 bit89.32 later.89.48 I91.72 think91.8 the92.04 first92.2 order92.6 of92.92 business93 was93.32 is93.64 that93.72 you93.96 had94.12 proposed94.36 a95.72 change95.88 in96.36 the96.52 statement97.8 of98.28 purpose.98.44 Doug,98.92 do99.16 you99.31 have99.4 a99.56 printout99.64 of100.03 the100.19 old100.28 statement100.52 of100.83 purpose?103.56
103.72 DOUG103.72 NEWTON103.72 -103.72 CITY103.72 OF103.72 WATERTOWN103.72 -103.72 The103.72 old103.72 statement103.95 of104.28 purpose104.36 in104.67 both105 documents.105.31 Lisa,105.8 I106.11 have106.19 your106.36 request106.52 in106.83 an106.92 email.107.08 Happy107.31 to107.56 read107.64 it107.88 aloud108.03 if108.36 you108.52 would108.59 like.108.83
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115.51 JOHN115.51 GANNON115.51 -115.51 RULES115.51 &115.51 ORDINANCES115.51 COMMITTEE115.51 SECRETARY115.51 -115.51 And115.51 just115.67 a115.83 copy115.99 note,116.39 there116.47 was116.47 no116.71 statement116.95 of117.35 purpose117.43 on117.75 the117.91 original?119.11
119.35 NEWTON119.35 -119.35 No,119.35 that's119.59 something119.59 that119.83 we're119.99 doing120.15 to120.47 try120.63 to120.79 keep120.87 our121.03 ordinances121.19 consistent.121.75
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129.72 GARDNER129.97 -129.97 For129.97 me,129.97 it130.13 will130.28 be130.37 easier130.53 to130.84 process131 it131.32 if131.49 I131.56 can131.65 read131.89 it132.04 at132.21 that.132.28 So,132.44 I'd132.76 rather132.93 have133.25 a133.32 printed133.49 version,133.89 and134.44 I134.69 don't134.93 know135.09 if135.25 you135.32 could135.49 have135.65 an135.89 original135.97 picture.136.37
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157.46 GARDNER158.66 -158.66 Okay.158.66 The158.97 next159.13 thing159.46 I159.57 think159.69 we160.17 had160.33 a160.5 series160.57 of160.89 questions161.06 for161.94 you,162.17 Abby.162.41 So,162.81 in163.29 no163.53 particular163.78 order,164.25 I'd164.5 like164.57 to164.74 just164.81 kind165.06 of165.22 run165.29 through165.53 these165.78 and166.25 get166.57 some166.81 comments167.29 and167.61 thoughts167.78 on168.17 them.168.33 One169.75 of169.91 these170.07 has170.31 to170.63 do170.71 with170.95 vibration173.35 meaning174.55 waves175.27 that175.67 can175.99 be176.23 felt176.39 by177.11 the177.27 body177.43 or177.83 what178.15 have178.31 you178.47 that178.63 are178.87 not179.11 audible.179.43 I179.99 mean,180.15 you180.31 know,180.47 you180.55 can't180.71 hear181.03 them,185.75 and186.06 whether186.06 we186.31 should186.47 be186.63 considering186.78 vibration187.34 as187.82 part188.06 of188.31 our188.39 noise188.63 ordinance,188.87 or190.15 not,190.39 and191.75 taking192.15 it192.47 as192.63 a192.78 separate192.94 matter193.26 or193.59 not193.75 taking193.99 it194.22 up.194.39
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281.99 GARDNER281.99 -281.99 Any281.99 other282.39 comments282.63 from283.59 the285.03 committee?285.75
289.19 FELTNER289.19 -289.19 I'm289.19 just289.27 wondering,289.51 did290.55 you290.87 print291.03 out291.27 the291.43 whole291.59 thing292.71 that292.95 I293.11 sent293.35 that293.67 I293.83 had293.99 last294.23 week294.47 that294.71 included294.87 the295.35 statement295.63 of295.79 purpose295.94 management.296.19 So,299.06 it's299.23 not299.38 just299.63 the300.35 statement300.5 of300.9 purpose.300.99
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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