Watertown Blue Ribbon Committee
Monday November 4, 2024
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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127.02 MARCY127.02 MURNINGHAN127.02 -127.02 BLUE127.02 RIBBON127.02 COMMITTEE127.02 MEMBER127.02 -127.02 Yes.127.02 I127.42 had,127.58 there129.19 was129.43 one129.66 small129.91 correction,130.94 my131.19 printer131.19 wasn't131.5 working,132.54 it133.25 is133.25 in133.97 relation134.13 to134.69 the134.93 question135.17 I135.57 addressed135.81 to137.09 Councilor137.17 Feltner.138.05 And139.17 I139.41 apologize,139.73 I140.37 am140.61 not140.69 able140.93 to141.25 pull141.33 it141.57 up141.73 on141.89 my142.13 phone143.09 right143.41 now.143.65 But144.61 if145.01 you145.25 look145.49 on146.63 the146.87 minutes,147.03 if147.5 you147.59 have147.75 it147.91 in147.99 front148.15 of148.39 you,148.47 Doug,148.87 you'll149.5 see149.91 that150.15 I150.63 asked150.87 Councilor151.19 Feltner151.82 how152.47 she152.71 felt153.03 about153.34 interacting153.82 or154.47 something154.63 like155.11 that,155.26 the155.67 word155.82 felt.156.22 As158.06 I158.31 recall158.47 that158.94 whole159.19 exchange,159.5 my160.8 question160.96 revolved162.4 around162.8 interacting164.16 with164.64 other164.88 councilors165.2 to165.68 learn165.92 things.166.24 So166.64 I166.96 had167.2 modified167.44 the168 sentence168.16 to169.84 say,170.08 Marcy171.12 Murningan171.6 asked172.32 Councilor172.64 Feltner173.2 to175.56 describe175.89 how176.37 she176.76 learns177 from177.41 other177.72 Watertown178.13 and178.93 area179.25 councilors.179.81
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