Watertown Zoning Board Meeting
Wednesday November 20, 2024
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
MELISSA16.18 SANTUCCI-ROZZI16.18 -16.18 ZONING16.18 BOARD16.18 OF16.18 APPEALS16.18 CHAIR16.18 -16.18 Good16.18 evening,16.41 everybody,16.73 and17.3 welcome17.77 to18.26 Watertown's18.73 Zoning19.38 Board19.7 of19.93 Appeals.20.1 This20.49 is20.73 our20.89 November21.05 20th21.7 meeting.22.18 We23.14 are23.3 in23.45 hybrid23.7 mode.24.02 We24.34 have24.49 some24.65 members24.89 that25.21 are25.38 here25.54 in25.7 person25.86 and26.26 some26.41 members26.73 that27.21 are,27.45 with28.47 us28.71 remotely.28.95 So29.91 all30.07 our30.31 votes30.47 this30.79 evening31.03 will31.35 be31.59 roll31.99 call32.23 vote.32.47 So32.87 what33.11 I'm33.27 gonna33.43 do33.67 first33.83 is34.07 introduce34.31 the34.79 staff,34.95 roll35.83 call36.07 attendance36.39 of36.95 the37.11 board37.27 members,37.59 quickly38.87 review39.27 the39.67 agenda,39.75 cases42.14 that42.63 we're42.78 going42.95 to43.27 discuss43.34 in43.91 here,44.06 this44.95 evening.45.18 So45.5 all45.74 the45.91 way45.98 to46.14 my46.3 right,46.46 we46.7 have,46.86 Gideon47.34 Schreiber,47.66 the48.06 director48.23 of48.55 planning,48.78 and49.5 we49.74 have49.91 Tony50.14 Mancini50.46 as51.02 the51.18 law51.27 enforcement51.34 officer,52.06 and53.91 Shamina53.91 Perani,54.47 our55.19 clerk.55.51 And,56.63 roll57.27 call57.51 by57.83 the57.99 board58.23 members.58.55
58.55
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SANTUCCI-ROZZI71.13 -71.13 And71.13 also71.44 present71.77 for72.16 myself.72.41 Have72.8 the73.05 record73.13 reflect,73.52 we73.92 have74.08 two74.33 members74.56 that75.05 are75.2 participating,75.28 remotely.77.2 Noting78.71 for79.27 the79.51 cases79.67 this80.15 evening,80.31 the80.95 five81.19 members81.43 that81.91 are82.07 here82.31 will82.71 be82.95 the83.19 members83.43 that83.91 are84.07 participating84.23 in85.59 the85.75 cases85.91 this86.63 evening.86.87 Moving88.47 into88.71 the89.03 agenda,89.19 we90.23 have90.47 approval90.95 of91.67 meeting91.91 minutes,92.23 two92.79 sets92.95 of93.27 minutes.93.43 And94.23 then94.47 we94.55 also94.78 have,95.19 two95.83 cases.96.06 We96.55 have96.7 61297.03 Churchill97.75 Street98.31 with99.19 a99.34 companion99.58 case100.06 of100.31 12100.47 Churchill.100.87 And101.91 then102.06 our102.31 second102.55 case,102.94 is103.67 1103.98 Rosary104.39 Drive.105.19 So106.08 getting106.32 into106.56 the106.88 agenda,107.12 has108.48 everyone108.72 had109.12 a109.36 chance109.44 to109.76 review109.84 the110.16 September110.32 made,110.88 meeting111.52 minutes?111.84
112.4 DAVID112.4 FERRIS112.4 -112.4 ZONING112.4 BOARD112.4 OF112.4 APPEALS112.4 MEMBER112.4 -112.4 Yes.112.4
113.04 SANTUCCI-ROZZI113.04 -113.04 Is113.04 there113.12 a113.36 motion?113.44
FERRIS114.64 -114.64 Madam114.64 Chair,114.96 I'll115.2 make115.28 a115.44 motion115.52 to115.84 approve116 the,116.4 September116.72 minutes.117.52
118.16 SANTUCCI-ROZZI118.16 -118.16 There's118.16 been118.48 a118.64 motion118.72 made119.04 for119.28 approval119.44 by119.92 member120.08 Ferris.120.4 Is120.72 there120.88 a121.12 second?121.2
122.86 SAMUEL122.86 ODAMAH122.86 -122.86 ZONING122.86 BOARD122.86 OF122.86 APPEALS122.86 MEMBER122.86 -122.86 I122.86 second.123.03
123.98 SANTUCCI-ROZZI123.98 -123.98 Motion's123.98 been124.55 made124.78 and125.19 seconded125.34 by125.83 member126.14 Odamah.126.55 All127.19 those127.42 in127.58 favor127.83 by128.15 roll128.38 call,128.63 member128.87 Ferris?129.26
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SANTUCCI-ROZZI137.85 -137.85 And137.85 an138.09 aye,138.65 for139.05 myself139.29 as139.77 well,139.93 noting,141.21 a141.85 member141.93 of142.25 Baker142.33 was142.73 not142.97 a143.21 member143.29 of143.61 the143.77 board,143.85 at144.73 our144.89 September145.13 hearing.145.61 The147.53 second147.77 set148.09 of148.33 many148.49 meeting148.89 minutes149.29 this149.69 evening149.93 is150.49 October150.73 23rd.151.29 There152.72 are152.79 any152.88 motions?153.12
154.47 FERRIS154.47 -154.47 Madam154.47 Chair,154.88 I155.03 was155.12 not155.35 in155.51 attendance155.68 at156.07 that156.24 meeting.156.4
156.72 SANTUCCI-ROZZI156.72 -156.72 Correct.156.72 Yeah.157.03 Any158.4 motions?158.63
160.79 SARAH160.79 BAKER160.79 -160.79 ZONING160.79 BOARD160.79 OF160.79 APPEALS160.79 MEMBER160.79 -160.79 I160.79 will160.96 move161.19 to161.44 approve161.68 the162 minutes162.16 from162.56 the162.79 October162.96 23rd163.28 meeting.163.68
164.39 SANTUCCI-ROZZI164.39 -164.39 There's164.39 been164.63 a164.71 motion164.79 made165.27 for165.51 approval165.83 by166.31 member166.55 Baker.166.95 Is167.27 there167.43 a167.59 second?167.75
169.35 ODAMAH169.35 -169.35 I169.35 second.169.59
170.47 SANTUCCI-ROZZI170.47 -170.47 Motion's170.47 been170.87 seconded171.11 by171.51 member171.75 Odamah.172.07 All172.55 those172.71 in172.87 favor173.03 by173.35 roll173.59 call173.83 vote.174.07 Member174.39 Baker?174.71
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SANTUCCI-ROZZI181.99 -181.99 And181.99 an182.22 aye182.31 for182.54 myself.182.78 Okay.183.91 Moving184.31 into184.63 the184.94 cases,185.1 my185.91 understanding186.15 is186.63 we've186.87 received187.03 the187.43 continuance187.59 for188.47 the188.71 6189.03 and189.43 12189.59 Churchill195.34 Street,195.9 cases.196.94 Attorney197.82 Leitner,198.14 would198.54 you198.78 like198.86 to199.02 make199.18 any199.34 comments199.58 in,200.14 support200.7 of201.02 the201.1 continuance?201.18
202.22 KENNETH202.22 LEITNER202.22 -202.22 LOUGHRAN202.22 &202.22 CORBETT202.22 ATTORNEYS202.22 -202.22 No.202.22 Just202.46 that202.62 we202.78 filed202.94 it203.18 with203.34 the203.5 board203.66 and203.98 if204.3 you204.54 would204.62 accept204.86 it,205.18 we're205.26 ready205.5 to205.82 see206.24 you206.4 in206.63 January.206.72
SANTUCCI-ROZZI207.68 -207.68 Okay.207.68 And208.31 the208.47 date208.56 for208.88 January,209.03 Gideon?209.68 Or210.4 do210.47 we210.63 not210.72 have210.96 that211.12 yet?211.35 No.211.51 We211.75 do.211.84 Given218.96 the219.28 request219.44 by219.91 attorney220.07 Leitner,220.47 is220.96 there221.12 a221.35 motion221.6 from222.29 the222.53 board222.69 to223.09 continue223.41 612224.21 Churchill225.17 Street225.73 to226.45 the226.61 January226.77 23rd232.93 meeting233.89 in234.53 2025?242.35
243 FERRIS243 -243 Madam243 chair,243.31 I'll243.56 make243.96 a244.11 motion244.19 to,244.59 continue245 the,245.47 Churchill,245.88 properties,247.07 to247.96 the248.11 January248.35 meeting.249.07
SANTUCCI-ROZZI250.03 -250.03 There's250.03 been250.09 a250.15 motion250.21 made250.27 by250.99 member251.15 Farris251.55 to251.87 continuance252.03 to252.67 January252.99 23rd.253.63 Is254.27 there254.43 a254.59 second?254.75
255.71 BAKER255.71 -255.71 Second.255.71
256.27 SANTUCCI-ROZZI257.31 -257.31 Second257.31 by257.55 member257.87 Baker.258.19 All258.59 those258.75 by258.99 roll259.23 call259.47 vote.259.71
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GIDEON264.37 SCHREIBER264.37 -264.37 CITY264.37 OF264.37 WATERTOWN264.37 -264.37 We264.37 looked264.6 at264.76 it.264.93 We265.32 read265.64 it265.88 again266.04 wrong.266.52 Can267.08 just267.4 it's268.04 the268.44 22nd?268.6 It's269.25 the269.4 Wednesday.269.56
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272.93 SANTUCCI-ROZZI272.93 -272.93 Could272.93 you273.16 amend273.32 your273.56 motion,273.73 member274.04 Ferris?274.37
275.16 FERRIS275.16 -275.16 Madam275.16 chair,275.49 I'll275.73 amend275.88 my276.13 motion276.29 to,276.6 continue277.32 the277.96 case278.13 for,278.44 these279.84 properties,280.16 to,281.2 January281.84 22,282.56 2025.283.6 Okay.284.4
284.72 SANTUCCI-ROZZI284.72 -284.72 Third284.72 time.285.04 There's286.4 been286.64 a286.8 motion286.88 made287.12 for287.36 a287.6 continuance287.68 to288.24 January288.4 22,289.04 2025.289.76 Is290.48 there290.64 a290.8 second?290.96
294.18 BAKER294.74 -295.06 Second.295.06
295.06 SANTUCCI-ROZZI295.06 -295.06 Second295.06 by295.06 member295.3 Baker.295.62 All296.01 those296.25 in296.42 favor296.57 by296.89 roll297.06 call297.38 vote,297.62
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SANTUCCI-ROZZI305.4 -305.4 And305.4 an305.72 eye305.8 for305.96 myself.306.12 Okay.306.92 So308.04 we308.28 do308.44 have308.6 a308.76 continued308.92 case,309.48 that309.96 we310.2 will310.36 be310.52 discussing310.76 this311.24 evening.311.48 This311.88 public312.44 hearing312.92 was313.24 opened313.56 and313.8 continued314.04 without314.6 testimony315 on315.64 October315.8 23rd.316.28 This317.32 petition317.56 is318.04 1318.28 Rosary318.6 Drive,319.16 and319.4 the319.64 petitioner319.8 is320.2 Steven320.57 Corbit,320.81 represented321.86 by322.34 attorney322.5 Leitner.322.9 All323.62 yours,323.86 Sir.324.18
324.42 LEITNER324.42 -324.42 Alright.324.42 Madam324.9 Chair,325.21 board325.54 members,325.77 Kenneth326.1 Leitner326.42 representing326.81 Steven327.38 Corbit327.69 who's328.18 the328.34 petitioner328.5 in328.9 this328.98 matter.329.21 Speaking330.65 after331.06 me331.3 will331.54 be331.69 Ron331.86 Bork,332.18 the332.5 architect,332.65 to333.13 go333.3 over333.46 the333.69 plans334.42 and334.66 landscaping334.82 and335.7 some335.86 other336.02 issues336.42 regarding337.38 the337.78 site.337.94 Then338.9 civil339.14 engineer,339.46 Fergal339.94 Brennick,340.34 will340.74 follow340.98 him,341.22 and342.02 then342.18 Mr342.66 Corbett343.06 will343.06 back343.3 clean343.62 up343.94 and344.18 move344.42 forward344.66 with345.06 the345.22 matter.345.62 So347.79 1350.12 Rosary350.44 Drive,350.92 part351.24 of351.48 the351.56 old351.71 Rosary351.88 Academy,352.27 which352.68 is352.92 once353 the353.31 three353.39 buildings353.63 connected354.04 across354.83 really355.56 from355.79 Highland355.95 Ave,356.44 almost356.75 running357.31 back357.63 to357.88 Warren358.12 Street,358.51 And359.66 presently,360.06 there's360.54 a360.86 convent360.94 there,361.34 unit362.14 61,362.46 which363.1 is363.26 mentioned,363.42 it's364.62 40365.02 I365.42 think365.5 45365.74 dormitory366.78 style367.42 units.367.74 It's368.14 been368.38 abandoned368.62 since369.1 2020.369.42 It370.7 had370.94 been371.1 on371.26 the371.42 market371.5 for371.9 sale372.06 during372.54 those372.86 years.373.26 Mr373.98 Corbett374.3 is,375.44 has375.91 it376.15 under376.31 contract.376.63 What's378.15 instruct378.71 a379.12 little379.19 bit379.35 of379.51 history379.6 is380 instructive380.24 as380.88 to380.95 what's381.12 going381.35 on381.68 here.381.83
383.12 The,383.12 it385.27 was385.35 once385.59 a385.83 school386 in386.39 a386.56 convent386.71 and388.35 big388.51 in388.75 the,389.07 probably390.03 around390.35 86,390.67 they391.15 closed391.31 the391.63 high391.79 school,391.95 so392.51 they392.75 had392.83 to392.99 figure393.07 out393.31 what393.39 to393.55 do393.63 with393.79 this393.95 property.394.19 The395.15 property395.31 is395.63 over395.79 8396.03 acres,396.27 the397.39 perimeter397.55 itself398.11 is398.43 over398.59 half398.91 a399.15 mile.399.31 So400.29 back400.53 in400.85 1986401.09 and402.13 into402.29 1987,402.77 this404.53 was404.69 in404.85 a405.74 2-family406.13 zone406.53 and407.18 the407.5 surrounding407.65 street,408.13 Highland408.38 Avenue,408.77 Lexington409.5 Street,410.06 part410.45 of410.69 Warren411.33 Street411.65 are411.89 2412.06 families,412.21 so412.62 it's412.77 surrounded412.94 in413.33 a413.41 2-family413.65 zone.414.06 Townhouses415.17 were416.77 allowed,417.01 so417.49 they417.65 filed417.81 for418.05 a418.29 special418.37 permit418.69 for,419.65 59420.37 townhouses420.93 here.421.65 They422.45 also422.69 filed423.25 for423.57 use423.81 variance,424.05 which424.45 we424.61 don't424.77 have425.01 any425.17 longer,425.41 to426.21 convert,426.45 which427.81 was428.05 essentially,428.45 a430.08 nursery430.25 school430.64 into431.13 affordable,431.61 25432.49 deed-restricted433.21 affordable433.69 units.434.17 The435.21 site435.44 itself435.76 presently436.4 has436.96 over437.29 30%,437.61 I'll439.29 use439.44 affordable439.76 in440.32 a440.56 penumbral440.73 sense,441.29 affordable442.08 units442.64 either443.59 with443.91 deed444.15 restrictions444.47 or444.95 based445.19 on445.43 need.445.67 So446.55 not446.95 just447.11 the447.43 apartment448.07 building,448.47 but448.79 some449.03 of449.19 the449.27 units449.35 within449.75 Sienna450.15 Village450.47 are450.79 affordable.450.95
452.31 So,452.31 the453.43 site453.67 is454.07 pretty454.47 well454.79 buffed455.03 out.455.35 You457.6 can457.83 enter458 from458.24 Lexington458.48 Street458.88 1459.12 way459.35 traffic459.6 and459.91 you460.07 can460.24 go460.39 out460.56 to460.71 Highland460.88 Avenue,461.19 there's461.68 2-way462.24 traffic.462.48 So463.83 they464.07 filed464.39 for464.71 this465.12 relief465.27 and466.07 it466.31 was466.39 granted.466.63 They467.04 received467.19 59467.68 townhouse-style468.88 units469.12 and470.24 they470.48 converted470.64 to471.2 the471.44 affordable472.56 units,473.04 25473.52 affordable474 units.474.48 And475.28 that475.52 was475.68 in475.92 the476.24 spring476.4 of476.72 1987.476.96 So478.64 there478.88 were479.04 13479.28 buildings479.68 on480.08 the480.24 lot.480.4 Subsequent481.36 to481.92 that,482.16 there482.56 was482.8 a482.96 change483.04 in484.08 the484.16 overall484.32 zoning484.72 classification.485.12 It's486.69 the486.86 most487.1 restrictive487.34 zoning487.9 classification,488.3 c489.01 r489.25 plus489.5 the489.74 residential.489.9 It's491.1 this491.42 parcel,491.74 the492.3 accompanying492.46 parcel492.94 on493.25 100493.5 Warren493.9 Street494.13 where494.46 the494.69 housing495.9 is496.3 for496.38 the496.54 elderly496.69 people497.18 in497.65 the497.81 Oakley497.98 Country498.3 Club.498.69 That's499.32 that's499.96 all500.28 we500.44 have500.6 for500.76 CR501 in501.32 Watertown.501.48 But502.68 what502.84 happened503 by503.4 putting503.56 a503.88 CR504.04 there504.36 is505 we505.96 believe506.2 11506.6 of506.92 the507.08 13507.32 buildings507.64 are508.12 now508.28 nonconforming,508.6 and510.52 the511 uses511.48 for511.88 CR512.2 is512.6 residential.512.76 They514.03 don't514.2 have514.27 any514.67 other514.83 uses515.08 for515.55 it.515.71
516.83 And516.83 on517.48 account517.71 of518.12 the518.27 units,518.51 the519.95 convent521.48 is521.88 not522.03 counted522.27 as522.6 a522.75 unit522.83 because523.15 of523.39 its523.55 Dover524.36 exception.524.75 If525.55 it525.71 were525.88 converted526.12 to526.6 a526.75 residential526.83 unit,527.48 per528.4 se,528.64 you528.72 need529.04 a529.28 variance529.44 because530 the530.4 lot531.36 area531.68 per532.08 dwelling532.24 unit532.64 is532.96 under533.12 the533.36 10533.52 requires534.48 10,000535.2 square535.84 feet536.08 per536.32 dwelling536.48 unit,536.8 it's537.2 already537.28 below538.24 that.538.48 If538.72 you538.88 add539.04 an539.2 additional539.28 unit,539.76 a540.16 variance540.24 is540.72 required.540.88 So542.7 that's542.95 a543.18 bit543.26 of543.42 the543.5 history543.66 and543.99 I'll544.23 say544.3 this544.63 matter545.11 is545.5 from546.7 a547.02 zoning547.11 perspective,547.5 the547.99 glass548.23 is548.46 half548.63 full.548.87 The549.99 staff550.14 port550.46 staff551.11 report551.82 point552.23 points552.63 out552.87 some553.11 difficulties554.11 with554.59 the554.75 project,554.91 but555.31 I'm555.55 gonna555.71 suggest556.03 to556.27 you556.43 that556.59 we556.75 do556.91 meet556.99 all557.23 the557.39 criteria557.55 for558.27 it.558.43 First,559.63 to560.19 amend560.43 the560.75 special560.91 permit561.23 finding.561.63 There's562.51 a562.75 special562.91 permit563.15 on563.63 record563.95 from564.35 1987,564.59 and565.71 it565.87 states566.11 that566.51 everything567.24 has567.55 to567.79 come567.96 to568.12 the568.27 board568.43 and569 the569.48 board569.72 of569.96 appeals570.12 so570.75 requires571.08 they572.12 can572.27 we572.67 can572.84 seek573.08 and573.24 obtain573.48 any574.92 such575.15 further575.39 relief575.72 or576.27 modification576.43 from577.15 the577.32 board577.48 of577.72 appeals.577.79 So578.75 that's578.92 the579.15 essence579.32 of579.63 what579.88 we're580.04 looking580.12 for580.43 to580.6 amend580.75 the581.08 special581.15 permit.581.55
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6267.52 SCHREIBER6267.52 -6267.52 The6267.52 Thursday6268.95 before6269.44 the6269.84 meeting6270.07 for6270.95 you6271.11 to6271.2 bring6271.35 us6271.52 So6271.84 Thursday6272.16 before.6272.72 Because6274.56 they6274.95 bring6275.52 them6275.68 too6275.91 late6276.07 on6276.56 Friday.6276.72 Yeah.6277.11 We6277.44 close6277.6 at6277.84 12:30.6277.99
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6408.29 SANTUCCI-ROZZI6408.29 -6408.29 And6408.29 aye6408.53 for6408.77 myself,6408.93 so6409.25 that's6409.41 continued.6409.73 And6410.66 then6410.81 a6411.14 motion6411.22 to6411.69 adjourn6411.94 the6412.26 meeting.6412.34
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