DAVID15.05 FERRIS15.05 -15.05 ZONING15.05 BOARD15.05 OF15.05 APPEALS15.05 MEMBER15.05 -15.05 Welcome15.05 to,15.46 the16.1 Watertown,16.73 zoning18.73 board,19.38 meeting20.1 for21.3 Wednesday,22.18 January22.73 22,23.38 2025.24.34 I'm25.96 gonna,26.2 my26.68 name26.84 is27 Dave27.32 Farris.27.56 I'll27.88 be28.04 acting28.2 as28.44 the28.6 chair28.68 this28.92 evening.29.08 I'm29.4 gonna29.56 introduce,29.88 other30.6 members31.32 who31.72 are31.88 here32.04 this32.28 evening32.44 with32.76 us.32.92 To34.44 my34.6 far34.76 right35.08 is,35.4 Gideon35.88 Schreiber,36.36 the36.84 director37 of37.32 planning37.4 and37.72 zoning.37.88 Next40.16 to40.32 Gideon40.48 is,40.97 Samina41.77 Perani,42.48 the43.13 administrative43.36 specialist.44.09 This46.8 is47.05 a47.28 hybrid47.52 meeting,47.92 and48.32 also48.56 attending48.88 this49.28 meeting49.45 in49.84 regards50.09 to50.48 staff50.64 is,51.05 Tony51.45 Mancini,51.77 the52.41 zoning52.56 enforcement52.96 officer,53.6 and54.53 Larry54.69 Field,54.93 the55.65 senior55.81 planner.56.21 The57.01 city's57.57 attorney58.05 is58.45 also58.61 attending59.57 this59.97 meeting60.13 virtually.60.45 61.65 To61.65 my61.81 immediate62.05 right62.53 is,62.85 Gregory63.25 Girard,63.73 alternate64.85 member65.33 who65.57 will65.73 be65.89 acting65.97 as66.29 a66.45 full66.53 member66.69 this67.01 evening.67.17 To68.48 my68.72 left68.89 is69.2 Alexander69.53 Dale,70.01 full70.72 member.70.89 Next73.13 to,73.44 Alexander74.08 is,74.81 Samuel75.61 Odamah,76.41 alternate77.44 member77.92 who78.17 will78.33 be78.48 acting78.56 as78.89 a79.05 full79.13 member79.36 this79.69 evening.79.84 And80.76 then,80.92 finally,81.56 Sarah82.28 Baker,82.6 full83.48 member.83.72 So85 we85.24 have85.32 a85.56 number85.96 of86.2 things86.28 to86.52 go86.6 through86.76 this86.92 evening.87.16 We87.72 have87.88 a88.44 few88.76 cases89 which89.32 are89.56 being89.72 continued.89.96 We've90.36 got90.6 some90.76 meeting90.92 minutes91.24 to91.56 approve.91.72 We,93.44 also94.23 have,94.64 one95.52 case96.08 which96.4 will96.64 be,96.8 heard97.28 this97.52 evening.97.76 And,98.72 so99.28 just99.44 to99.67 start101.28 things101.52 off,101.76 Gideon,104.56 should105.03 we,105.19 maybe105.67 just106 talk106.28 about106.52 the106.68 hybrid106.84 nature107.24 of107.48 the107.64 meeting107.72 and108.04 the108.36 ability108.52 for109 people,109.88 to111 chime111.08 in111.4 at111.64 points111.8 when112.36 we're112.6 asked112.76 to113.16 for113.32 them113.48 to113.64 do113.8 that?113.96 114.84 GIDEON114.84 SCHREIBER114.84 -114.84 CITY114.84 OF114.84 WATERTOWN114.84 -114.84 Sure.114.84 I115.08 can115.16 provide115.64 some116.04 brief,116.28 background117.48 for117.88 those118.44 who118.68 are118.84 online.119.08 So120.92 this121.08 is,121.23 an122.03 in-person122.44 meeting122.83 with123.16 an123.4 opportunity123.56 for124.03 remote124.36 access125.16 to125.56 the125.64 meeting125.8 to126.12 provide126.28 testimony.127.47 If128.84 you129.07 are129.24 on130.12 one130.35 of130.51 the130.59 cases130.75 and131.16 you131.31 would131.47 like131.63 to131.88 present,134.13 please134.69 raise135.01 your135.17 hand,135.33 and136.93 I137.17 can137.33 elevate137.57 you137.97 so138.21 that138.37 you138.61 can138.77 share139.41 information.139.81 Other141.41 than141.73 that141.89 during142.21 the142.69 each142.85 hearing143.09 we143.49 will143.73 raise,144.37 I'll145.91 allow146 you146.31 to146.56 talk146.72 and146.88 you147.11 can147.28 talk147.44 by147.75 raising148.16 your148.56 hand148.72 in149.11 the150.07 Zoom150.39 application.150.72 I152.88 also153.11 wanted153.44 to153.83 acknowledge,154.56 which156 I156.31 think156.39 David156.95 Ferris,157.35 our157.75 acting157.91 chair,158.31 that159.19 we159.44 have159.67 several160.07 members160.47 of161.16 the162.76 staff163 online163.48 as164.2 well164.28 as164.52 our,164.6 the165.96 city's166.12 attorney.166.44 168.28 FERRIS168.28 -168.28 Great.168.28 Thanks168.6 so168.84 much,169 Gideon.169.24 So170.04 the,170.28 first170.84 of171.32 all,171.4 we'll171.56 take171.72 care171.96 of172.12 administrative172.28 business.173.16 We've173.56 got,173.8 the174.36 ability174.92 to175.32 approve175.75 a175.91 couple176.06 of176.7 meeting176.86 minutes.177.34 So,178.38 has,179.26 have180.47 the180.63 board180.78 members180.94 been181.26 able181.42 to181.75 review182.22 the182.94 meeting183.19 minutes183.58 of183.82 both184.06 November184.47 20th184.86 and185.5 also185.66 December185.91 18th?186.38 Yes.188.13 So188.85 just189.01 on189.17 a189.41 one-by-one190.13 basis190.37 then190.69 is,190.93 someone191.25 would191.73 someone191.97 like192.21 to192.45 make192.53 a192.61 motion192.69 to193.01 approve,193.57 the193.89 minutes193.97 of194.21 November194.45 20,194.77 2024?195.33 197.25 ALEXANDER197.25 DALE197.25 -197.25 ZONING197.65 BOARD197.81 OF197.81 APPEALS197.81 MEMBER197.81 -197.81 Mr197.81 Chair,197.81 I197.81 would197.97 move198.21 to198.45 approve198.69 the199.09 meeting199.17 minutes199.41 for199.65 November199.81 20,200.13 2024.200.53 201.65 FERRIS201.65 -201.65 There's201.65 been201.89 a202.05 motion202.13 made.202.45 Is202.69 there202.77 a203.01 second?203.09 204.72 SAMUEL204.72 ODAMAH204.72 -204.72 ZONING204.72 BOARD204.72 OF204.72 APPEALS204.72 MEMBER204.72 -204.72 I204.72 second.204.88 205.59 FERRIS205.59 -205.59 Great.205.59 Thank205.92 you.206.16 So206.56 then206.88 motion207.12 made207.44 to207.68 approve207.75 the208.08 meeting208.16 minutes208.4 of208.72 November,208.88 20th,209.68 2024.210.24

210.88 All210.88 those211.03 in211.28 favors?211.36 Aye.212.4

213.12 SPEAKER2213.12 -213.12 Aye.213.12

214.24 SPEAKER3214.24 -214.24 And,214.24 opposed?214.96 None.215.92 217.17 FERRIS217.17 -217.17 Great.217.17 Thank217.57 you.217.89 So218.05 if,218.21 someone218.53 would218.85 also219.01 make219.49 a219.65 motion,219.73 for220.53 the221.01 minutes221.17 of221.49 December221.65 18,222.13 2024.222.69 224.29 DALE224.29 -224.29 Mr.224.69 Chair,224.93 I224.93 move225.09 to225.41 approve225.57 the225.89 meeting226.05 minutes226.29 for226.53 December226.69 18,227.09 2024.227.49 228.37 FERRIS228.37 -228.37 Great.228.37 Is228.69 there228.85 a229.09 second?229.17 230.13 ODAMAH230.13 -230.13 I230.13 second230.29 that.230.69 231.09 FERRIS231.09 -231.09 Great.231.09 Thank231.33 you.231.57 All232.22 those232.53 in232.69 favor232.85 of233.17 approval233.66 of234.06 the234.22 minutes234.29 of234.61 December234.69 18,235.01 2024,235.57 then236.53 aye,236.85 please.237.09 Aye.237.33 Aye.237.97 And239.01 opposed?239.25 None.240.22 Great.240.69 So241.09 those241.25 are241.5 approved.241.81 And242.59 we've242.75 also242.91 got243.15 a243.39 few243.47 cases243.63 which244.19 are244.43 requesting,245.07 continuance.246.35 And,248.11 so,250.59 I251.39 will,251.55 just252.11 mention252.83 them,253.15 initially,254.03 and254.59 then254.75 we254.91 can255.15 proceed256.03 with256.51 that.256.75 So,257.8 the258.12 first,258.44 cases259.88 which260.27 are260.44 connected261.24 together261.71 requesting262.12 a262.75 continuance262.83 are,263.48 both264.36 612264.83 Churchill266.04 Street.266.68 Gideon,267.96 is268.27 there268.44 a268.51 need268.6 to268.83 identify269.07 anything269.63 other270.04 than270.36 that270.51 regarding270.92 the271.4 projects,271.48 or271.88 can272.04 we272.19 just272.36 go272.85 ahead273.01 with273.17 the273.25 vote273.33 to273.81 allow274.37 continuance?274.77 277.65 SCHREIBER277.65 -277.65 These279.09 two279.33 cases279.33 have279.73 been279.89 opened280.61 and280.93 continued281.17 and281.97 so282.13 they've282.29 requested282.45 a284.61 continuance,284.86 and285.88 they've285.95 also286.27 filed286.51 an286.75 extension286.91 agreement.287.39 So287.79 the288.12 request288.51 is288.91 just289 for289.24 a289.48 continuance.289.56 290.19 FERRIS290.19 -290.19 Okay.290.19 290.68 SCHREIBER290.68 -290.68 And290.68 so,291.39 did293.15 they293.31 specify293.56 the294.04 date?294.19 It's301.52 on301.84 the,302.8 the303.36 agenda?303.6 I304.08 304.32 FERRIS304.32 -304.32 You304.32 know,304.48 as304.96 I305.2 look305.28 at305.44 the305.52 agenda,305.68 I306 just306.16 see306.32 that306.48 the306.64 cases306.8 are307.12 identified,307.28 but307.92 I308.16 don't308.4 see308.96 from309.99 309.99 SCHREIBER309.99 -309.99 Yeah.310.4 So311.07 it's311.24 they311.79 requested312.04 it312.51 to312.6 be312.75 continued312.92 to313.31 the313.48 26th313.63 February.314.68 315.48 FERRIS315.48 -315.48 Okay.315.48 Great.315.79 So317.48 there,317.88 if,319.39 someone319.71 would320.12 like320.27 to,320.51 make320.83 a321.07 motion321.15 in321.48 regards321.63 to,322.04 continuing,322.44 612323.48 Churchill324.35 Street,325 to326.03 our326.19 February326.43 meeting.326.75 328.03 DALE328.03 -328.03 Mr.328.27 Chair,328.51 I328.51 move328.67 to328.91 continue329.23 the329.71 case329.87 for330.03 612330.27 Churchill330.83 Street331.31 to331.63 the331.79 November332.03 26332.51 meeting334.19 to334.43 February.334.43 FERRIS334.83 -334.83 Yeah.334.83 February334.99 2025.335.55 Yep.336.27 Great.336.83 So337.71 there's337.87 been338.03 a338.19 motion338.27 made.338.59 Is338.75 there338.91 a339.15 second?339.23 339.87 ODAMAH340.66 -340.66 Second.340.66 340.66 FERRIS340.66 -340.66 All340.66 those340.82 in341.06 favor,341.22 say341.54 aye.341.7 Aye.342.35 Opposed?343.31 None.343.94 Great.344.82 Thank345.22 you.345.38 Similarly,347.22 the347.87 second348.19 case348.75 requesting349.06 continuance349.63 is350.43 77350.99 Forest351.87 Street.352.26 Again,354.12 I354.36 don't354.52 apologize355.48 if355.96 I'm356.04 missing356.2 it,356.44 but356.52 I356.68 don't356.76 see,357 any,359.72 timetable360.44 in360.92 regards361.08 to361.4 the361.64 continuance.361.72 I362.2 assume362.28 it's362.52 for362.76 the362.84 February363.08 meeting363.4 again.363.72 365.79 SCHREIBER365.79 -365.79 Assuming365.79 it's366.19 confirmed.366.35 Yeah.366.75 Yeah.367.15 We367.31 apologize.367.56 It368.03 came368.19 in368.44 on368.68 the368.91 day369.07 that369.31 we369.39 set369.56 the369.79 agenda,369.88 so370.19 we370.35 couldn't370.51 put370.83 it371 on371.15 371.39 FERRIS371.39 -371.39 Yeah.371.39 That's371.56 no371.71 problem.372.03 Thank372.35 you.372.59 So372.83 there's373.88 a374.75 request375.07 then375.56 for375.88 77376.19 Forest376.91 Street,377.24 to,377.79 continue378.19 that378.68 case378.75 until379 our379.37 February379.61 hearing.380.01 Is380.33 there380.41 a380.57 motion380.65 to,381.61 approve382.33 that382.65 continuance?382.89 ODAMAH383.93 -383.93 Mr384.25 Chair,384.49 I,384.49 approve385.61 move385.77 to386.17 approve386.33 that386.65 continuance.387.85 FERRIS387.85 -387.85 Great.387.85 Thank388.17 you.388.41 Is388.81 there388.97 is389.21 there389.45 a389.61 second?389.69 Before390.33 you390.65 just391.45 clarify,391.69 please,392.31 in392.71 the392.95 motion,393.03 identify394.31 the394.71 date.394.88 395.91 ODAMAH395.91 -395.91 Okay.395.91 So,396.71 26th.397.75 What399.19 date?399.44 400.15 FERRIS400.15 -400.15 February400.15 26th.400.71 Yeah.401.19 ODAMAH402.31 -402.31 Mr.402.63 Chair,403.03 I403.03 move403.44 to403.68 approve403.91 the404.39 date.404.63 It's404.88 February405.12 26th405.51 2025.406.45 407.01 FERRIS407.01 -407.01 Great.407.01 There's407.25 been407.49 a407.65 motion407.73 made408.13 to408.45 approve408.69 77409.17 Forest409.81 Street410.13 to410.85 our411.01 February411.17 hearing,411.65 on412.21 February412.21 26,412.77 2025.413.25 Is414.05 there414.29 a414.61 second,414.77 please?415.09 415.57 GREGORY416.45 GIRARD416.45 -416.45 ZONING416.45 BOARD416.45 OF416.45 APPEALS416.45 MEMBER416.45 -416.45 Second.416.45 416.45 FERRIS416.45 -416.45 Great.416.45 Thank416.69 you.416.93 All417.57 those417.73 in417.97 favor,418.13 by419.09 aye?419.41 Aye.420.37 Aye.420.93 And421.56 then421.81 opposed421.96 is422.52 none.422.76 So423.16 that423.64 77424.04 Forest424.6 Street424.85 will425.08 be425.16 continued.425.4 And426.69 then426.85 we427.16 have,427.32 oNE428.29 final,428.69 application429.64 for430.44 discussion430.76 this431.16 evening,431.4 and431.81 it432.04 is,432.29 91113434.96 Boyd436.4 Street,436.8 an437.12 appeal.437.36 So,438.24 Gideon,440.88 I441.92 assume442 that442.4 we442.64 should442.8 read443.44 that443.92 appeal.444.64 Is445.2 that445.36 correct?445.6 447.96 SCHREIBER447.96 -447.96 Yes.447.96 If,449 somebody449.4 could450.04 read450.28 the450.84 notice451.31 into451.8 the452.04 record.452.36 And452.92 then,453.07 as454.6 far454.84 as455.07 the455.31 representative456.19 for457.15 the457.31 appeal457.56 is458.19 online460.13 on460.53 Zoom.460.85 So461.49 I've461.57 elevated462.53 them.462.93 So463.09 I463.25 assume463.57 that463.81 they463.97 will464.13 be464.29 able464.69 to,464.85 speak,465.65 once466.85 you467.09 open467.57 the467.97 hearing.468.13 FERRIS468.53 -468.53 Great.468.53 Thank468.85 you.469.09 So469.41 if469.65 you469.81 Yep.470.29 Thank470.69 you.470.85 470.85 DALE470.85 -470.85 91113471.41 Boyd472.29 Street,472.61 First473.17 Path473.49 Daycare473.73 Incorporated474.13 doing474.77 business474.93 as475.25 First475.55 Path475.79 Daycare476.03 Center,476.43 owner476.9 of477.23 the477.31 University477.47 of477.87 Prince477.94 Building478.19 LLC,478.59 request479.94 to480.26 hear480.43 and480.59 rule480.75 on480.99 an481.15 appeal481.23 of481.55 the481.71 issuance481.87 of482.26 a482.35 building482.43 permit,482.82 and483.23 if483.47 and483.79 only483.94 if484.19 to484.35 the484.43 extent484.59 that484.9 it485.15 incorporates485.31 the485.87 conditions486.03 found486.59 in486.82 the486.99 December487.15 20,487.55 2023488.11 decision488.9 of489.23 the489.38 planning489.55 board489.79 on-site490.49 plan490.89 review,491.29 particularly492.01 conditions492.41 11492.97 a493.37 through493.45 11493.69 h.494.09 494.97 FERRIS494.97 -494.97 Great.494.97 Thank495.21 you495.37 very495.61 much.495.77 So497.29 the498.09 applicant498.57 is,499.21 here501.05 online.501.37 Right?502.09 504.34 PHIL504.34 BROWN504.34 -504.34 FIRST504.34 PATH504.34 DAY504.34 CARE504.34 CENTER504.34 -504.34 Yes.504.34 I504.65 am.504.81 My505.46 name505.62 is505.78 Phil505.94 Brown,506.18 and506.5 I506.57 represent506.74 First507.22 Path507.54 Day507.94 Care508.18 Center.508.42 514.1 FERRIS514.1 -514.1 Great.514.1 Thank514.5 you.514.74 If514.89 you515.05 want515.13 to,515.38 proceed516.01 with516.5 your516.74 presentation.516.89 518.47 BROWN518.47 -518.47 Sure.518.47 This519.59 is519.83 an519.99 appeal520.07 of520.39 a520.55 building520.63 permit.521.03 It521.43 really521.59 raises521.91 two522.95 issues523.35 for523.83 you.524.07 The525.19 first525.43 is525.75 whether526.47 in526.87 fact527.03 the527.51 conditions,527.67 the528.95 site529.03 plan529.35 review529.59 conditions,529.99 which530.55 were530.79 imposed531.51 by531.91 the532.07 planning532.23 board532.71 back533.03 in533.27 December533.43 of533.99 2023534.44 are536.28 in536.52 fact536.68 incorporated537.25 into538.28 the538.68 building538.92 permit,539.32 such540.68 that540.92 they541.16 are,541.49 such543.16 that543.4 first543.57 path543.8 is544.04 now,544.28 subject545.32 to545.73 those545.88 conditions.546.13 If547.57 you547.73 take547.88 a548.04 look548.13 at548.28 the548.44 building548.52 permit548.92 itself,549.4 it550.28 has550.52 a551.4 space551.56 for551.96 conditions,552.2 and552.92 there553.16 was553.4 no553.72 entry554.68 in555.16 the555.4 building555.56 permit555.96 specifying557.4 that558.12 the558.36 site558.52 plan558.76 review559 conditions559.4 are560.6 included.561.08 So562.52 that's562.6 sort562.84 of563 the563.08 first563.16 issue563.48 that's563.72 before564.04 you565.24 tonight.565.48 Assuming566.41 that566.89 you567.05 were567.21 to567.38 find567.53 that567.7 the568.01 site568.41 plan568.65 review568.98 conditions569.29 are570.1 incorporated,571.46 then572.65 the572.98 question573.05 really573.53 becomes,573.77 for574.74 you574.98 to575.13 take575.21 a575.33 look575.46 at575.7 the575.86 Dover576.01 Amendment,576.33 Chapter577.7 40a577.86 section577.86 3,578.33 and579.57 consider579.81 whether580.37 or580.77 not580.93 the581.17 conditions581.41 that581.81 are582.05 imposed582.29 meet583.09 the583.25 statutory583.49 requirements,584.37 imposed586.69 upon587.09 the587.41 planning587.49 board587.97 to588.29 to589.17 put589.57 conditions589.97 on590.69 a590.93 daycare591.33 center.591.65 594.68 In594.68 general,594.92 restrictions595.56 on596.27 a596.36 daycare596.75 center597 are597.48 unreasonable597.8 if599.15 they599.39 substantially599.8 impair600.68 or601.72 detract601.96 from602.43 the602.6 usefulness602.75 of603.24 the603.32 daycare603.72 center,603.88 its604.27 operations,604.6 or605.63 if605.88 they're605.96 imposing606.27 a606.75 set606.92 an607.48 excessive607.63 cost608.27 on609.33 the609.41 daycare609.89 center.610.13 If611.33 there's611.49 an611.65 excessive611.89 cost612.37 of612.69 compliance,612.93 then,613.57 this614.69 board614.85 could615.17 find615.33 that615.65 the615.81 conditions615.97 are616.37 unreasonable.616.61 It618.05 also618.21 sets618.69 forth619.09 in619.49 chapter619.73 40620.13 a620.53 section620.69 3621.17 the622.21 sorts622.69 of623.01 things623.17 that623.49 can623.73 be623.97 actually625.07 regulated625.79 subject626.5 to626.9 site627.07 plan627.38 review.627.63 And628.5 the628.75 statute's628.9 very629.47 specific629.79 in630.35 that630.5 regard.630.75 And632.11 I'll632.35 just632.59 read632.83 it632.99 to633.14 you.633.3 It633.47 says633.63 that633.95 land634.35 or634.59 structures634.83 may635.47 be635.63 subject635.87 to636.26 reasonable636.42 regulations636.99 concerning638.44 the639 bulk639.16 and639.88 height640.12 of640.36 structures640.6 and641.64 determining641.96 yard642.6 sizes,642.84 lot643.64 area,643.96 setbacks,644.92 open645.88 space,646.28 parking,647.24 and648.12 building648.36 coverage648.68 requirements.649.24 Of651.77 the652.1 conditions652.33 that652.82 were653.05 imposed653.45 upon654.01 First654.33 Path,654.74 which655.05 are655.29 on655.53 pages655.7 9656.41 through,656.82 12658.33 of658.89 the659.13 planning659.29 board's659.7 decision,660.1 there661.13 is661.38 only661.53 one661.93 condition,662.25 that663.62 relates663.77 to664.25 what664.82 is665.13 allowed666.23 under666.63 Chapter,668.87 40a669.03 section669.03 3,669.43 and669.75 that669.91 is670.07 parking.670.23 671.35 There671.35 are671.51 other671.67 conditions,671.91 for672.47 example,672.63 related673.11 to673.59 landscaping,674.31 or676.71 lighting,677.91 which678.75 have678.99 nothing679.07 to679.47 do679.63 with679.87 the680.43 things680.67 that680.99 are681.14 allowed681.23 to681.55 be681.71 regulated,681.79 bulk682.5 and682.83 height,683.07 yard683.38 size,683.79 etcetera.684.18 And685.79 so685.95 we686.18 would686.35 submit686.5 that686.99 those687.47 conditions,687.87 which688.83 are689.14 effectively690.02 conditions690.9 number691.47 1691.79 through692.11 10692.35 and692.9 then693.07 numbers693.3 12693.94 through694.26 14694.74 should695.94 be696.18 struck696.42 and696.98 that697.22 the698.18 first698.34 path698.58 should698.9 not699.06 be699.22 subject699.38 to699.78 them.699.86 There701.22 may701.54 be701.7 other701.86 ways702.82 that703.3 First704.18 Path704.5 could704.5 be704.66 required704.82 to705.22 comply705.38 with705.78 such706.18 things706.42 as,706.74 you707.72 know,707.96 things708.51 that708.68 have708.84 to709 do709.15 with709.24 sewer710.6 and710.75 water,711 but711.56 it's711.8 not712.04 appropriate712.27 to,712.92 condition713.8 them714.27 through714.6 site714.92 plan715.15 review715.48 and716.36 to716.6 condition716.75 a717.15 building717.24 permit717.63 upon718.12 meeting718.84 those719.24 sorts719.48 of719.72 conditions.719.88 With722.24 regard722.64 to722.88 the723.12 8723.44 parking723.92 subconditions,724.64 did726.4 the726.64 board726.88 receive727.36 our727.92 letter728.24 of728.72 today730.32 with731.28 regard731.52 to731.92 732.64 FERRIS732.64 -732.64 Yes.732.64 Yes.733.92 We734.16 did.734.32 735.09 BROWN735.09 -735.09 So735.09 I'm735.4 assuming735.57 that735.88 you've736.04 had736.28 a736.37 chance736.45 to736.68 look736.76 at737 that,737.09 and737.33 I737.49 will737.57 take737.8 you737.97 through738.13 each739 of739.33 the739.49 conditions.739.73 But740.37 what740.76 I741 would741.16 suggest741.33 is742.04 that742.21 before743 the743.4 board743.57 actually744.04 makes745 a745.4 decision,745.64 because747.64 many747.96 of748.16 these748.36 conditions748.68 have749.24 to749.48 do749.56 with749.8 pick750.12 up750.36 and750.52 drop750.84 off751.24 and751.56 the751.72 effective751.96 running752.44 of752.84 the753.16 daycare753.48 centers753.72 parking755.08 operations.755.56 I'd756.6 invite756.84 the757.24 Board757.4 to757.8 come758.12 out758.36 and758.6 take758.84 a759.16 view759.24 of760.39 what761.04 it761.27 is761.51 actually761.84 like762.39 out762.72 there762.96 in763.27 terms763.51 of763.92 parking764.15 and764.88 in765.12 terms765.27 of,765.75 pickup766.32 and766.63 drop766.96 off.767.2 FirstPath768.48 operated769.51 out770.08 of770.24 the770.32 Watertown770.48 Boys771.04 and771.27 Girls771.44 Club771.68 for772.08 many,772.32 many,772.72 many772.96 years773.27 until,773.84 Boys775.16 and775.48 Girls775.64 Club775.88 determined776.2 that776.68 it777 wanted777.24 to777.56 take777.64 its777.88 space778.12 back.778.36 And779.4 it780.36 never780.6 had780.92 any781.08 problems781.32 and781.72 is781.96 well782.12 experienced782.52 with,783.16 pickup783.8 and784.2 drop784.36 off784.68 and785.48 presented785.8 a787.01 traffic787.25 experience787.98 study788.53 to789.01 the789.17 planning789.33 board,789.74 which790.13 detailed791.65 why792.46 it792.77 would792.93 not793.17 have793.41 problems793.58 with793.98 pickup794.21 and794.62 drop794.77 off.795.1 795.25 And795.25 indeed,795.58 I796.05 think796.21 you'll796.46 find796.7 that,796.93 if797.74 you797.89 came798.05 out798.29 and798.53 viewed798.7 it,799.1 there799.41 are799.65 no799.89 problems800.13 with800.62 pickup800.86 and801.25 drop801.5 off.801.82 One803.1 of803.26 the803.34 conditions,803.5 though,803.98 that's,804.3 that805.34 seems805.58 to805.9 stand806.14 out806.46 more807.02 than807.26 any807.42 other807.66 is808.06 the808.22 condition808.46 requiring,808.94 FirstPath811.1 to813.26 rent813.5 up814.14 to814.3 24814.62 parking815.26 spaces815.74 at816.14 a816.3 local816.46 garage.816.86 I818.99 think819.46 that819.7 the820.35 owner820.82 of821.14 First821.3 Path822.02 is822.02 in822.35 the822.5 audience.822.66 He823.23 could823.38 tell823.63 you823.87 that824.11 the824.99 cost825.23 of825.54 that825.7 on826.18 a826.35 monthly826.5 basis826.99 is827.46 over827.78 $4,000,827.94 and830.26 that830.5 cost831.5 in831.9 relation832.14 to832.62 a833.34 daycare's833.5 operations,834.3 the835.18 number835.34 of835.66 students835.82 that836.22 it836.46 actually836.7 has,837.26 which837.66 it's838.38 only838.54 like838.78 it's839.1 only839.26 able839.98 to840.22 have840.38 up840.46 to840.62 64,840.86 it841.5 actually841.74 has842.06 less842.38 than842.62 that842.86 right843.1 now,843.26 is844 prohibitive845.76 and846.57 could847.29 ultimately847.61 cause848.33 the848.64 daycare849.13 to,849.37 potentially851.13 go851.61 out851.85 of852 business852.09 because,852.57 you854.49 know,854.64 that854.88 sort855.13 of855.29 a855.52 cost855.68 is856 just856.64 not856.97 something857.21 that857.52 you857.68 can857.85 pass858 on,859.95 to860.99 your861.23 students.861.39 866.03 As866.03 I866.27 said,866.43 we866.75 go866.99 through867.23 each867.71 of867.95 the868.11 conditions868.27 and869.07 why869.31 we869.63 think869.87 that,870.35 they871.47 should871.63 not871.87 be872.11 imposed.872.35 I872.99 think,873.07 in873.86 particular,874.1 there874.65 are874.89 several875.05 conditions875.46 that876.1 require876.33 sort877.29 of877.46 an877.7 ongoing878.1 monitoring878.25 function,879.77 which880.33 in881.21 turn881.53 would881.93 potentially882.98 allow883.86 the884.17 daycare884.33 to887.23 lose887.39 its887.71 permit888.03 or888.43 lose888.75 its889.07 ability889.23 to890.03 operate,890.83 if891.39 in891.71 fact891.79 conditions892.27 changed893.07 and893.55 it893.79 didn't893.95 actively894.43 address895.55 those.896.03 And896.27 I896.43 think896.51 that896.75 those896.99 sorts897.23 of898.19 ongoing898.35 types899.39 of899.79 conditions900.03 are900.75 ones900.99 that901.31 are901.87 not902.11 appropriate903.28 and903.85 they904 do904.25 not904.4 meet,904.73 the905.76 reasonableness906 requirement906.8 under907.52 Chapter908.8 40a909.2 Section909.2 3.909.2 As912.33 I912.57 said,912.64 there's912.88 a913.2 there's913.37 an913.68 easy913.92 way914.33 for914.57 the914.8 board914.96 to915.37 decide916.2 this916.44 and916.84 that917 is917.16 to917.4 decide917.56 that,917.88 in918.12 fact,918.28 that918.6 the918.76 conditions918.92 were919.32 not919.56 incorporated920.44 into921.24 the921.56 building921.72 permit.922.12 But922.92 again,923.16 I923.96 would924.2 urge924.44 the924.84 board925 to925.32 take925.48 a925.72 look925.8 at926.2 what927.08 is927.32 actually927.56 happening928.04 on-site,928.6 before930.42 it930.75 makes930.9 a931.23 decision.931.38 And932.18 I'm932.42 happy932.66 to932.99 address933.14 any933.71 questions933.95 that934.42 you934.59 may934.75 have.934.9 FERRIS937.07 -937.07 Great.937.07 Thank937.3 you.937.47 So937.71 that938.02 concludes938.18 your938.59 presentation?938.83 939.87 BROWN939.87 -939.87 Yes.939.87 FERRIS940.42 -940.42 Great.940.42 Thanks940.75 so941.07 much.941.23 Gideon,943.79 at943.87 this944.03 point944.19 in944.43 time,944.59 if,944.75 staff945.55 and945.87 or946.11 the946.43 attorney946.59 wanna,946.99 also,948.51 just949.23 identify949.47 the950.75 scenario953.07 in953.55 regards953.79 to954.11 this954.27 application.954.43 956.04 SCHREIBER956.04 -956.04 Yes.956.04 Thank956.2 you.959.88 Attorneys960.76 I961.96 actually962.13 have962.37 never962.52 said962.85 Smiraj.963.32 Sorry,964.13 Roger.965.49 If967.16 you'd967.4 like967.73 to,967.88 introduce968.61 yourself969.08 and969.49 then969.73 I970.04 can970.13 provide970.44 a970.76 summary970.92 of971.32 our,972.06 staff973.5 memo974.14 if974.86 you975.02 would975.18 like975.42 us975.58 to,975.82 prior976.94 to977.26 the977.5 opening978.3 the978.7 public979.42 testimony979.74 portion.980.3 982.7 ROGER982.7 SMERAGE982.7 -982.7 KP982.7 LAW982.7 P.C982.7 -982.7 If982.7 Good983.75 evening,984 Mr.984.71 Chair,985.27 members985.27 of985.67 the985.83 board,986 and986.88 staff.987.19 Roger987.83 Smerage988.24 of988.71 KP988.88 Law,989.27 city990.31 solicitor.990.71 Gideon,992.88 I993.19 think993.27 it993.43 makes993.51 sense993.75 for994.24 you994.48 to994.63 summarize,995.6 the996.55 staff996.71 memo997.12 first,999.32 and999.72 I999.8 would999.96 be1000.2 happy1000.44 to1000.76 fill1000.92 in1001.16 any1001.72 gaps1002.36 about1002.76 where,1003.8 you1004.12 know,1004.28 where1004.68 we1004.84 are,1005.16 why1005.8 we're1006.04 here1006.2 tonight,1006.44 and1007.64 then,1007.88 answer1009 any1009.32 questions1009.56 the1009.96 board1010.12 may1010.44 have.1010.6 One1012.12 other1012.44 option,1014.32 that1015.27 the1015.51 board1015.75 could1016.15 consider1016.39 if1017.04 the1018.15 petitioner1018.32 is1019.2 willing1019.67 to1020 consider1020.15 it,1020.88 would1021.75 be1022 a1022.15 continuance1022.96 of1023.51 the1024.15 hearing1024.32 on1024.88 the1025.12 appeal.1025.43 We1026.45 had1026.69 not,1026.85 discussed1027.49 that1027.89 previously,1028.13 and1028.61 I1028.85 don't1029.01 know1029.09 if1029.33 mister1029.57 Brown,1029.89 would1031.25 be1031.49 amenable1032.29 to1032.77 that,1032.93 but1033.09 that's1033.33 also1033.57 an1033.89 option1034.05 if,1034.61 if1035.97 Mr.1036.21 Brown1036.53 and1036.77 his1036.93 client1037.09 are1037.57 so1038.21 willing.1038.37 So,1041.09 I'm1042.21 happy1042.3 to1042.54 get1042.62 into1042.78 that1042.93 a1043.1 little1043.17 bit1043.34 more1043.49 as1043.65 well,1043.82 if1044.54 there1044.69 are1045.02 questions1045.34 or1045.89 interest1047.89 in1048.3 discussing1048.54 that1049.02 option.1049.26 1051.34 SCHREIBER1051.34 -1051.34 Thank1051.34 you.1051.58 Thank1051.89 you.1052.13 So1053.1 so1053.58 in1053.73 brief,1053.82 this1054.69 appeal1056.57 case1057.21 arises1057.69 out1058.01 of1058.25 the1058.33 petitioner's1058.49 interest1059.05 in1059.37 reusing1059.69 a1059.89 portion1060.09 of1060.41 the1060.57 property1060.73 occupied1061.53 by1062.01 an1062.17 existing1062.33 2-story1062.89 building,1063.21 for1064.25 a1064.49 new1064.65 daycare1065.45 facility.1065.85 It's1067.29 currently1067.85 in1068.33 operation1068.49 as1068.97 has1069.29 been1069.53 noted.1069.69 Staff,1070.77 in1071.57 summary1071.88 recommends1072.37 denial1072.92 of1073.33 the1073.48 appeal1073.64 because1073.96 the1074.2 petitioner1074.37 has1074.77 not1074.92 met1075.09 its1075.33 burden1075.48 of1076.2 proving1076.44 that1076.77 the1077.01 challenge1077.09 site1077.64 plan1077.88 conditions1078.28 are1078.77 unreasonable1078.92 under1079.48 the1079.72 circumstances.1079.88 From1081.48 a1081.72 for1082.2 background1082.44 on1083.01 a1083.16 procedural1083.24 history1083.8 perspective,1084.28 this1085.96 is1086.12 the1086.28 3rd1086.44 appeal1086.84 relating1087.16 to1087.48 the1087.64 petitioner's1087.8 use1088.36 of1088.52 this1088.6 property1088.84 for1089.48 the1089.72 daycare1090.2 facility,1090.44 which1091.32 was1091.48 a1091.72 change1091.8 in1091.96 use.1092.12 The1094.36 procedural1094.52 history1095.08 started1095.64 in1096.04 July1096.2 2023,1096.68 where1099 the1099.73 petitioner1099.97 applied1100.45 for1100.86 a1101.1 building1101.26 permit,1101.65 bp1102.21 23-660,1103.58 in1105.58 order1105.89 to1106.21 renovate1107.01 and1107.82 convert1108.13 a1108.93 portion1109.01 of1109.34 the1109.49 building1109.58 into1110.05 this1110.38 new1110.69 daycare1111.41 facility.1111.89 The1113.26 petitioner1114.47 appealed1114.95 the1115.27 zoning1115.43 determination,1116.47 that1118.95 the1119.11 proposal1119.27 required1119.83 site1120.31 plan1120.55 in1120.95 the1121.11 first1121.27 place.1121.51 And,1122.71 on1123.99 October1124.39 25,1124.79 2023,1125.35 the1125.91 zoning1126.15 board1126.47 denied1126.71 the1127.03 appeal1127.19 and1127.59 concluded1127.75 that1128.23 a1128.31 site1128.47 plan1128.71 review1128.95 before1129.55 the1129.87 planning1129.95 board1130.27 was1130.51 required.1130.74 1131.63 This1131.63 decision1131.95 has1132.98 been1133.14 appealed1133.38 to1133.71 the1133.87 land1133.95 court.1134.27 On1135.87 December1136.27 13,1136.74 2023,1137.38 the1137.95 planning1138.11 board1138.42 granted1138.66 site1138.98 plan1139.23 approval1139.47 with1140.11 conditions.1140.35 The1141.83 petitioner1142.07 proceeded1142.55 with1143.19 the1143.43 building1143.59 permit1143.91 application1144.31 that1144.79 was1144.95 previously1145.19 on1145.67 hold,1145.91 bp1146.95 23660.1147.19 Because1149.03 of1149.43 circumstances1149.67 that1150.47 are1150.71 not1150.87 relevant1151.03 to1151.43 this1151.59 appeal,1151.75 a1152.15 second1152.31 separate1152.63 building1153.03 permit1153.43 was1154.22 issued1154.46 to1154.78 allow1155.02 certain1155.74 limited1156.22 work,1156.62 not1158.06 specifically1158.38 related1158.93 to1159.26 the1159.41 use1159.49 and1159.89 was1160.06 subject1160.46 to1161.17 a1161.34 second1161.49 appeal.1161.82 On1162.62 October1162.86 30,1163.34 2024,1164.38 BP1166.13 231166.7 dash1167.26 6601167.49 was1168.22 issued1168.46 to1169.67 allow1169.83 for1170.15 the1170.39 remaining1170.55 work1170.87 to1171.11 be1171.19 done.1171.35 The1172.23 petitioner1172.39 is1173.35 completing1173.67 the1174.07 permitted1174.15 work1174.55 and1174.79 is1175.03 operating1175.19 the1175.51 daycare1175.83 facility1176.07 under1176.63 a1176.87 temporary1176.95 certificate1177.43 of1177.83 occupancy.1177.99 The1179.43 petitioner1179.59 appealed1180.07 the1180.47 billing1180.55 permit1180.87 on1181.43 November1181.67 27,1182.07 2024,1183.03 with1184.93 the1185.34 clause,1185.65 but1186.13 only1186.3 if1186.62 and1186.93 only1187.41 to1187.82 the1187.98 extent1188.13 it1188.54 incorporates1188.7 the1189.34 conditions1189.49 set1189.98 forth1190.22 in1190.46 the1190.62 site1190.78 plan1191.02 review1191.26 decision1191.58 issued1192.3 on1192.7 December1192.86 20,1193.26 20231193.73 by1194.46 the1194.62 planning1194.78 board.1195.1 The1196.13 petitioner1196.3 noted1196.78 that1197.02 its1197.17 appeal1197.41 was1197.73 particularly1198.14 concerned1198.54 with1198.86 conditions1199.18 111199.66 a1200.46 through1200.7 111201.02 h.1201.42 Since1202.54 this1202.86 report1203.1 was1203.42 written,1203.66 they've1204.22 submitted,1204.78 additional1205.82 letter1206.3 suggesting1206.7 more1207.58 detail1207.82 of1208.22 other1208.38 conditions.1208.7 1216.73 The1216.73 appeal1217.69 was1218.02 noticed1218.89 in1219.69 the1219.93 newspaper,1220.1 posted,1220.97 etcetera,1221.62 and1222.65 you've1223.05 read1223.45 the1223.69 legal1223.93 notice1224.34 into1224.65 the1224.89 record.1225.05 Specifically,1229.1 site1229.74 plan1229.98 review1230.22 decision1230.62 by1230.94 the1231.1 planning1231.26 board,1231.66 the1232.46 petitioners1232.7 stated1233.34 in1233.74 particular1233.98 the1234.7 conditions1234.94 111235.42 a1235.82 through1236.06 111236.3 h.1236.62 The1238.54 memo1239.02 provides1239.5 a1239.9 summary1239.98 of1240.38 those1240.54 specific1241.12 ones,1241.36 but1241.76 it's1241.99 also1242.32 attached1242.63 to1243.04 the1243.19 decision.1243.43 I'm1243.84 not1244.08 gonna1244.23 read1244.47 through1244.63 them.1244.88 I1245.84 think1245.99 we've1246.15 provided1246.39 a1246.88 summary.1247.04 Under1251.84 analysis,1252.23 as1253.15 we've1253.31 already1253.55 noted,1253.87 on1254.83 appeal,1255.07 the1255.39 petitioner1255.55 has1255.95 the1256.19 burden1256.35 of1256.67 proving1256.75 that1257.07 the1257.23 parking1257.39 management1257.79 and1258.19 site1258.43 circulation1258.67 conditions1259.23 in1259.55 the1259.71 planning1259.87 board's1260.19 approval1260.43 constitute1261.23 unreasonable1261.71 regulations1262.35 of1263.07 the1263.23 proposed1263.31 use.1263.87 The1264.83 petitioner1265.07 has1265.55 made1265.79 assertions1266.93 of1267.41 law1267.65 in1267.89 its1268.06 notice1268.3 of1268.62 appeal1268.78 without1269.1 producing1269.41 any1269.82 factual1270.06 evidence1270.45 to1270.93 support1271.02 them.1271.26 The1271.89 challenged1272.13 conditions1272.54 relate1273.02 to1273.34 a1273.82 recognized1273.97 municipal1274.38 interest1274.93 in,1275.34 one,1275.58 ensuring1276.21 the1276.7 safety1276.86 of1277.26 those1277.41 using1277.65 the1277.89 site1278.06 or1278.3 passing1278.45 the1278.86 site1278.93 along1279.17 Boyd1279.58 Street,1279.82 and1280.06 two,1280.21 ensuring1280.54 there1280.93 is1281.17 adequate1281.75 parking1281.97 for1282.19 the1282.41 site1282.63 and1282.95 for1283.03 the1283.19 neighborhood.1283.27 1290.71 The1290.71 planning1290.87 board's1291.27 decision1291.67 was1292.07 based1292.23 on1292.47 information1292.55 provided1293.11 by1293.51 the1293.67 petitioner,1293.83 staff,1294.55 and1294.87 members1295.11 of1295.59 the1295.75 public1296.19 who1296.6 participate1296.67 in1297.15 the1297.32 public1297.47 process.1297.71 As1298.6 noted1298.76 in1298.99 the1299.15 planning1299.23 board's1299.55 decision,1299.88 operating1300.43 the1300.84 site1300.99 requires1301.32 a1301.71 drop-off1302.03 and1302.19 pickup1302.43 of1302.76 641302.91 children1303.39 during1304.27 designated1304.6 times.1305.15 The1305.88 potential1306.03 that1306.51 up1306.76 to1306.84 131306.91 staff1307.32 members1307.63 will1308.19 need1308.36 to1308.6 park,1308.76 parking1309.63 for1310.51 two1310.67 residential1310.91 units,1311.39 and1311.79 parking1311.95 for1312.27 other1312.43 potential1312.75 uses1313.15 in1313.47 the1313.63 building,1313.71 office,1314.35 and1314.67 light1314.83 industrial.1315.07 You1316.59 can1316.83 see1316.99 decision1317.47 page1317.95 51318.27 attached1318.99 to1319.31 the1319.47 appeal.1319.63 The1319.95 petitioner1320.11 recognizing1320.67 the1321.15 parking1321.31 issues1321.71 raised1322.03 by1322.27 the1322.43 proposed1322.51 uses1322.99 presented1323.8 the1324.04 planning1324.2 board1324.6 with1324.99 assurances1325.24 about1325.8 an1326.12 off-site1326.28 parking1326.76 arrangement1327.15 with1327.88 the1328.04 nearby1328.2 garage.1328.67 Decision1329.24 page1329.63 6.1329.96 Members1330.6 of1330.91 the1331.08 public1331.15 raised1331.56 concerns1331.72 about1332.2 traffic1332.43 congestion1332.76 and1333.24 safety1333.39 on1333.72 Boyd1333.88 Street1334.2 during1334.43 peak1334.67 hours1334.99 because1335.32 of1335.56 its1335.72 proximity1336.2 to1336.99 busy1337.15 Galen1337.56 Street.1337.88 Again,1339.1 decision1339.42 page1339.98 3.1340.22 The1340.54 planning1340.7 board's1341.02 decision1341.34 specifically1341.82 referenced1342.46 these1342.78 concerns.1343.02 1344.14 Member1344.14 quote1344.62 unquote,1344.78 members1345.26 were1345.66 concerned1345.9 about1346.3 the1346.46 ability1346.62 of1347.02 parents1347.18 to1347.58 drop1347.66 off1347.9 and1348.06 pick1348.22 up1348.38 their1348.54 children1348.78 safely1349.18 and1349.98 without1350.3 causing1350.7 undue1351.02 impact1351.42 on1351.74 the1351.9 neighborhood1352.06 and1352.46 Boyd1352.62 Street1352.94 travel.1353.18 The1355.15 specific1355.39 conditions1355.8 are1356.28 reasonably1356.43 related1356.91 to1357.23 the1357.32 municipal1357.48 interest1357.96 in1358.36 safety1358.6 and1358.99 adequate1359.23 parking.1359.63 The1360.6 conditions1360.76 provide1361.23 flexibility1361.63 to1362.28 sunset1362.43 or1362.99 reduce1363.15 requirements1363.56 based1364.12 on1364.36 monitoring1364.6 results.1365.08 If1366.1 petitioner1366.42 believes1366.9 that1367.22 one1367.38 or1367.62 more1367.7 of1367.94 the1368.18 conditions1368.34 are1369.06 unnecessary,1369.3 specifically1370.34 conditions1370.9 111371.3 a1371.86 through1372.1 111372.34 h,1372.74 or1374.02 excessive,1374.26 it1374.74 may1374.9 request1375.14 modifications1375.46 or1376.1 amendments1376.34 of1376.74 the1376.9 decision1377.06 from1378.34 the1378.5 planning1378.66 board.1379.06 So1380.61 based1380.85 on1381.09 that,1381.24 staff1381.73 suggests1382.37 to1383.09 the1383.24 zoning1383.4 board1383.73 of1383.97 appeals1384.13 that1385.16 the1385.4 facts1385.57 and1385.88 announcements1386.13 provide,1386.85 that1388.53 the1388.77 board1388.85 deny1389.24 the1389.48 petition1389.64 because1390.05 the1390.45 petitioner1390.61 has1391.24 not1391.48 met1391.73 its1391.88 burden1392.05 of1392.37 proving1392.45 that1392.77 the1392.92 challenge1393.09 site1393.48 plan1393.64 conditions1393.97 are1394.37 unreasonable1394.53 under1395.58 the1395.82 circumstances.1395.9 Moreover,1397.1 petitioner1397.5 has1398.14 the1398.38 option1398.54 of1398.78 seeking1398.94 a1399.34 modification1399.58 of1400.14 the1400.22 site1400.3 plan1400.62 review1401.1 decision1401.5 to1401.9 the1402.06 planning1402.14 board.1402.54 1405.1 FERRIS1405.1 -1405.1 Great.1405.1 Thank1405.42 you.1405.58 SCHREIBER1405.74 -1405.74 Thank1405.74 you1405.9 for1406.06 that,1406.22 and1406.46 I1407.02 hand1407.1 it1407.34 back1407.5 to1407.66 the1407.82 1408.14 FERRIS1408.14 -1408.14 Yeah.1408.14 Great.1408.38 Thanks.1408.54 I'd1408.86 yeah.1409.26 Just1409.77 a1409.85 couple1410.01 of1410.05 initial1410.09 questions1411.05 from1411.45 my1411.61 perspective,1411.85 and1412.25 then1412.33 we'll1412.57 get1412.88 into1413.13 other1413.29 things.1413.53 So,1415.4 the1417.85 first1418.09 question1418.49 is1419.21 the1419.53 attorney1419.68 mentioned1420.81 the1422.01 potential1422.16 of1422.73 a1422.81 continuance,1423.13 and1423.92 maybe1424.16 if1424.49 we1424.64 could1424.81 discuss1425.05 the1427.02 what1428.14 the1428.3 reason1428.46 for1428.78 that1428.94 would1429.18 be.1429.42 SCHREIBER1432.86 -1432.86 Would,1434.14 that1434.46 be1434.46 a1434.46 question1434.54 to,1435.34 Phil1437.42 Brown1437.74 or1441.72 1441.96 BROWN1441.96 -1441.96 I1441.96 think1442.29 I1442.61 think1442.77 that's1443.01 a1443.16 question1443.24 to1443.57 mister1443.72 Smiraj.1444.13 1444.92 SCHREIBER1444.92 -1444.92 Okay.1444.92 1449.01 SMERAGE1449.01 -1449.01 So,1449.01 Mr.1450.2 Chair,1450.92 the1450.92 reason1451.24 I1451.57 brought1451.64 up1451.96 the1452.13 possibility1452.29 of1452.92 a1453.09 continuous1453.24 and1453.8 again,1453.88 this1454.2 is1454.37 entirely1454.61 dependent1455.16 on1455.64 whether1455.8 the1456.29 petitioner,1456.53 is1458.54 willing1459.14 to1459.46 entertain1459.62 that1460.42 because1460.58 under1460.9 section1461.22 151461.54 of1461.86 the1461.94 zoning1462.1 act,1462.58 in1463.62 order1463.78 to,1464.18 delay1465.3 the1465.86 board's1466.02 decision1466.42 be1466.9 up1467.02 excuse1467.7 me,1467.94 beyond1468.18 1001468.58 days,1468.98 which1469.3 I1469.54 think1469.7 is1470.42 coming1470.58 up1470.9 in1471.14 a1472.7 week1472.87 or1473.11 2.1473.35 Maybe1473.59 it's1473.83 a1473.98 little1474.07 bit1474.31 further1474.38 out.1474.63 I1474.79 don't1474.87 have1475.03 the1475.18 exact1475.35 calculation1475.66 right1476.14 on1476.38 my1476.87 fingertips.1477.03 You1478.63 know,1478.79 the1478.94 petitioner1479.11 would1479.59 have1479.83 to1479.98 agree1480.14 to1480.38 an1480.46 extension1480.63 agreement1481.11 on,1482.07 any1482.79 such,1483.11 extension.1484.08 But1485.27 what1485.51 I1485.83 will1485.99 say1486.15 just1486.71 in1486.95 general1487.19 terms1487.67 is1488.15 that1488.39 Attorney1488.79 Brown1489.27 and1489.67 I,1489.83 have1491.27 met1491.83 several1492.39 times1492.79 and1493.59 talked1493.83 several1494.15 times1494.47 over1494.71 the1494.95 past,1495.11 weeks1495.99 months,1496.39 both,1498.64 one1499.92 on1500.16 one1500.4 and1500.72 then1500.88 also1501.05 with,1501.29 representatives1503.29 are1504.09 of1504.48 the1504.72 city1504.97 and1505.45 FirstPath1505.61 present.1506.33 1507.45 And1507.45 we're1507.68 presently,1507.92 discussing1509.61 whether1510.24 First1513.98 Path1513.98 will1513.98 be1514.22 able1514.46 to1514.78 make1514.86 a1515.1 proposal,1515.26 a1515.74 comprehensive1515.9 proposal1516.46 to1517.42 the1517.58 city's1517.74 planning1518.06 department,1518.54 about1519.74 the1520.14 overall1520.46 use1520.94 of1521.26 the1521.42 Boyd1521.58 Street1521.9 property,1522.22 including,1522.86 the1524.38 park,1524.54 excuse1525.26 me,1525.58 the1525.82 daycare,1525.98 that1527.34 would1527.5 potentially1528.91 address1529.39 some1529.8 of1529.95 the1530.04 concerns1530.28 with1530.76 the1530.99 conditions1532.2 while1532.84 also1533.15 addressing,1533.47 the1534.6 city's,1534.76 concerns1535.8 that1536.76 raised,1536.99 those1537.8 conditions,1538.2 subject1539.88 to1540.28 the1540.43 possibility1540.6 of,1541.23 first1542.63 path1542.87 going1543.27 back1543.51 to1543.67 the1543.75 planning1543.91 board1544.31 for1544.63 a1545.43 modification1545.59 as1546.47 Gideon1547.83 just1548.31 alluded1548.55 to1548.95 as1549.11 is1549.43 an1549.67 option1549.75 to1550.07 them.1550.31 In1551.75 light1551.91 of1552.23 that,1552.47 those1553.59 ongoing1553.91 discussions,1554.39 it's1556.66 an1556.98 option.1557.31 Again,1557.79 if1558.18 petitioner1558.42 is1559.07 willing1559.55 to,1559.95 consider1560.66 it1561.14 and1561.31 if1561.47 the1561.71 board1561.87 is1562.27 willing1562.42 to1562.66 entertain1562.9 it1563.31 to1563.87 continue1564.74 the1565.79 hearing1565.95 on,1566.66 this1567.79 appeal1568.11 regarding1569.14 the1569.55 site1569.71 plan1570.03 conditions1570.66 for1573.62 some1573.78 period1574.02 of1574.42 time1574.58 in1575.3 order1575.46 to1575.78 see1576.02 whether,1576.34 those1577.78 discussions1578.1 bear1579.14 fruit1579.46 and1580.02 resolve1580.5 all1581.06 of1581.22 this,1581.38 which1582.02 would1582.74 potentially1583.14 make1585.54 a1586.26 Board1586.5 decision1586.74 in1587.38 this1587.54 appeal1587.78 moot,1588.26 or1589.38 unnecessary.1589.63 1590.74 FERRIS1590.74 -1590.74 Thank1590.74 you,1590.98 Roger.1591.38 So1591.94 one1592.66 question1592.83 just1593.22 to1593.38 follow-up1593.54 on1593.87 that.1594.02 Would,1596.59 potentially1599.72 the1600.36 board's1600.6 decision1602.52 this1603.32 evening,1603.48 regarding1608.44 just1608.92 the1609.16 basic1609.64 question1609.96 that's1610.28 with1610.76 us,1610.92 tonight.1611.64 If1612.69 we1612.86 were1612.93 to1613.17 vote1613.26 on1613.58 that1613.73 specific1614.05 question,1614.53 would1615.49 that1615.65 potentially,1615.97 complicate1617.1 the1617.82 ongoing1618.05 discussions?1618.62 Would1619.17 it1619.34 in1619.97 your1620.45 mind,1620.69 would1620.93 it1621.17 be1621.34 more1621.82 straightforward1622.13 if1623.49 the1623.73 applicant1624.93 were1625.49 wanting1626.21 to1626.61 do1626.77 this1627.01 to,1627.73 pursue1628.69 a1629.17 continuance?1629.73 And,1631.81 Gideon,1632.05 please1632.45 chime1632.61 in1632.85 if1633.09 1634.77 SCHREIBER1634.77 -1634.77 I'll1634.77 defer1634.93 to1635.25 SMERAGE1635.49 -1635.49 Good1635.49 evening,1635.57 Mr.1636.21 Chair.1636.45 And,1636.45 of1636.69 course,1636.85 I1637.42 can't1637.74 speak1638.07 for,1638.79 the1639.42 applicant's1639.66 position.1640.14 Obviously,1640.55 Attorney1641.03 Brown1641.51 can.1642.07 From1643.35 my1643.59 perspective,1643.9 I1644.63 don't1644.79 think1645.03 the1645.27 board,1645.51 issuing1646.79 a1647.18 decision1647.35 on1648.07 the1648.22 appeal1648.38 tonight1649.03 would1649.83 take1651.25 our1651.97 discussions1652.21 off1652.93 track.1653.09 I1653.41 think,1653.65 count1655.57 I1655.97 think1656.05 counsel1656.93 and1657.41 I1657.65 have1657.89 both1658.13 anticipated,1658.45 you1660.21 know,1660.45 a1661.65 potential1662.05 decision1662.61 and1663.17 factored1663.33 that1663.89 in.1664.13 Obviously,1664.89 if1665.46 the1665.62 board1665.86 were1666.41 to,1666.73 deny1668.49 the1669.22 appeal1669.38 tonight,1670.17 FirstPath1670.89 would1671.62 have,1671.86 its1673.22 rights1673.78 to1674.49 take1674.73 that1674.97 decision1675.22 to1675.78 court1675.93 under1676.65 the1676.89 zoning1677.06 act1677.54 as1678.12 it1678.28 did1678.44 with1678.76 the1679.08 board's1679.48 prior1679.96 decision,1680.28 that,1681.88 ruled1683.32 that1683.72 site1683.96 plan1684.2 review1684.52 was1684.84 necessary.1685.08 And1686.12 that1686.36 matter,1686.52 as1686.92 Gideon1687.16 indicated,1687.8 is1688.44 still1688.68 ongoing1688.92 and1689.4 is1689.56 part1689.72 of1689.96 the1690.12 discussions1690.2 that1690.84 Attorney1691.66 Brown1691.98 and1692.46 I1692.63 have1692.87 been1693.11 having1693.35 on1693.74 an1693.9 ongoing1694.07 basis.1694.46 So1696.14 I1696.79 don't1696.94 think,1697.11 a1698.07 decision1698.31 by1698.79 the1698.94 board1699.11 tonight1699.42 to1700.63 deny1700.79 the1701.18 appeal1701.42 would,1702.31 be1703.66 a1703.74 hindrance1703.9 to1704.38 continued1704.63 ongoing1705.18 discussions.1705.66 I1707.12 also1707.28 don't1707.6 think1707.84 it's,1708.08 you1709.36 know,1709.52 a1710.96 necessity,1712.4 that1713.52 the1713.68 board,1713.84 issue1714.96 a1715.28 decision1715.44 tonight1716 in1716.48 order1716.64 to1717.04 move1718.4 things1718.64 in1718.96 one1719.78 direction1720.11 or1720.51 another1720.74 with1721.3 respect1721.63 to1721.94 those1722.11 discussions,1722.42 again,1723.22 subject1723.63 to,1724.03 the1725.07 petitioners,1725.54 willingness1726.83 to1727.3 entertain,1727.46 an1728.74 extension1728.98 of1729.54 the1729.7 board's1730.18 100-day1731.38 deadline1731.7 in1734.3 order1734.54 to1734.86 have,1735.02 a1735.9 continuance.1736.06 FERRIS-1739.18 Great.1739.18 Thank1739.42 you.1739.66 So1742.46 getting1742.62 in1742.94 from1743.02 your1743.18 perspective,1743.34 I'm1743.82 just,1743.98 wondering.1744.46 Maybe,1745.34 initially,1746.14 we1746.78 should1746.86 be1747.1 asking1747.26 applicants'1748.1 attorneys1748.41 to,1748.74 weigh1749.22 in1749.46 on,1750.41 the1751.62 applicants'1751.86 thoughts1752.34 on1752.65 a1752.82 continuance.1753.13 But,1753.7 I'm1754.82 and1754.98 I'm1755.13 not1755.38 sure1755.46 in1755.7 terms1755.86 of1756.17 procedurally1756.34 if1756.98 that1757.13 would1757.3 be1757.46 something1757.62 that1758.02 we1759.46 would1759.62 do1759.86 this1760.34 evening1761.09 in1761.33 regards1761.49 to1761.97 the1762.13 I1763.09 apologize1763.25 for1763.97 not1764.05 understanding1764.37 this1764.85 fully1765.17 in1765.41 terms1765.57 of1765.81 the1765.89 process,1765.97 but1766.69 just1767.17 in1767.41 terms1767.57 of1767.89 the,1767.97 you1768.69 know,1768.85 public1769.01 notice,1769.41 etcetera.1769.73 1774.85 SCHREIBER1774.85 -1774.85 Would1774.85 the1775.09 counsel1775.33 for1776.67 the1776.91 applicant1776.97 or1777.02 the1777.08 petitioner1778.04 want1779.63 to1779.8 weigh1779.96 in1780.12 at1780.28 this1780.43 point1780.6 or1780.84 would1780.99 you1781.15 prefer1782.04 that1782.52 the1782.67 hearing1782.84 continue?1783.15 1783.96 BROWN1783.96 -1783.96 No.1783.96 Sure.1784.2 We1785.39 would1785.56 be1785.8 happy1785.96 to,1786.28 agree1787.15 to1787.39 a1787.63 continuance.1787.8 I1788.43 think,1788.6 Mr.1790.28 Smirage1790.91 has1790.91 correctly1792.72 stated,1795.44 you1796.4 know,1796.56 sort1796.72 of1796.88 our1797.04 discussions.1797.28 If1798.48 possible,1798.8 I1799.36 would1799.52 like1799.76 to1800 have,1800.16 my1801.68 client1802 comment1802.72 because1803.2 he's1803.6 there1803.84 and1804.08 it's1804.32 difficult1804.56 for1805.04 me1805.2 to,1805.36 know1806.32 exactly1806.56 what1806.96 he's1807.2 what1807.58 he's1807.82 thinking.1808.77 But1810.29 from1810.53 my1810.69 perspective,1810.93 I1811.41 think1811.49 a1811.73 continuance1811.82 to1812.62 the1812.86 next1812.93 meeting1813.26 would1813.58 make1813.73 some1813.97 sense.1814.21 1816.77 FERRIS1816.77 -1816.77 And1816.77 so1817.17 is1817.49 the1817.73 applicant1817.89 here,1818.29 owner?1818.93 Yeah.1819.41 If1819.65 you'd1819.73 please1820.13 come1820.38 and,1820.53 introduce1821.01 yourself,1821.49 please.1821.82 1824.06 MAX1824.06 BOLYASNYY1824.06 -1824.06 FIRST1824.06 PATH1824.06 DAY1824.06 CARE1824.06 CENTER1824.06 -1824.06 Good1824.06 evening.1824.3 My1825.1 name1825.26 is,1825.42 Max1826.46 Bolyasnyy.1826.86 I'm1827.42 the,1827.58 general1828.7 manager1829.1 of1829.5 First1829.74 Path,1830.78 Daycare1830.94 center.1830.94 And,1832.54 I1834.22 agree1834.46 that,1834.78 continuous1835.26 would1836.22 be1836.38 a1836.7 good1836.86 idea1837.1 for1837.66 the1837.9 following1837.98 reasons.1838.46 I1839.38 think1839.46 it1839.7 gives1839.94 board1840.51 the1840.98 time,1841.22 to1842.03 think1842.18 about1842.51 issues1843.22 we're1844.59 dealing1844.83 with.1845.14 One1846.98 of1847.3 the1847.46 issues1847.55 is1848.11 that,1848.27 well,1849.7 the1850.11 memo1850.27 the1850.98 staff1851.07 memo1851.46 stated1852.18 that1852.59 First1854.09 Path1854.41 did1854.41 not1854.73 meet1855.05 a1855.53 burden1855.69 of1856.09 proof.1856.25 Well,1857.53 we1858.01 believe1858.17 first1858.49 pass1858.81 met1859.13 burden1859.45 of1859.77 proof1859.93 a1860.89 long1860.97 time1861.21 ago,1861.37 prior1863.29 to1863.69 conditions1863.85 being1864.33 issued1864.65 because,1865.05 we1866.09 conducted1866.41 a1867.05 thorough1867.93 transportation1869.49 study1870.29 scientifically1871.16 where1872.21 traffic1873.4 patterns1873.97 were1874.53 observed,1874.77 recorded,1875.4 analyzed.1876.29 1877.64 The1877.64 traffic1877.88 pattern1878.21 that1878.53 had1878.68 been1878.85 established1879.01 for1879.4 many,1879.57 many1879.81 years.1880.13 And1881.33 the1881.81 conclusion1881.97 was1883.24 that1883.64 arrival1884.28 of1884.76 First1884.92 Path1885.16 Day1885.4 Care1885.56 Center1885.8 to1886.44 Boyd1886.6 Street1886.92 will1887.24 not1887.4 present1887.72 any1888.28 issues.1888.6 And1889.96 the1890.52 fact1890.76 that1891.32 our1891.72 arrival,1891.96 did1893.72 not1893.96 present1894.2 issues1894.76 and1895.7 the1895.86 fact1896.02 which,1896.41 our1897.06 pickup1897.3 drop1897.62 off1897.93 goes1898.65 exactly1898.89 per1899.86 the,1899.98 analysis1902.02 provided1902.65 in1903.13 the1903.3 traffic1903.46 study,1903.78 scientific1904.1 traffic1904.65 study.1904.89 I1905.46 think1905.62 it's1905.86 already1906.1 clearly1906.49 established1906.97 which1907.54 all1907.93 these1908.1 conditions1908.34 really1909.23 unnecessary.1910.35 And1911.47 I1912.19 primarily1912.35 refer1912.83 it1913.15 right1913.23 now1913.39 to1913.63 condition1916.43 number1916.99 11.1917.31 But1918.19 there1918.43 is1918.59 also1918.75 another1919.79 question.1920.11 If1920.59 you1920.75 recall,1920.91 it's1921.31 a1921.55 BA1921.63 hearing.1921.95 It1924.34 was1924.58 a1925.53 bit1925.69 of1925.86 October1925.93 2024.1927.45 It1928.73 was1928.82

1929.62 Sorry.1929.62

1929.86 SPEAKER21929.86 -1929.86 It's1929.86 hard1930.1 to1930.26 hear1930.41 you.1930.58 Could1930.82 you1930.97 1930.97 BOLYASNYY1930.97 -1930.97 Yes.1931.13 There1931.38 was1931.54 a1931.86 bit1931.93 a1932.17 long1932.26 discussion1932.58 about,1933.21 what1934.02 are1934.26 the1934.41 permissible1934.65 area1935.38 of1935.78 regulations.1936.1 And1938.26

1940.62 SPEAKER21940.62 -1940.62 so1940.62 I1940.78 can't1940.86 speak1941.34 from1941.58 the1941.82 audience,1941.9 but1942.22 I'm1942.46 trying1942.78 to1943.02 make1943.1

1943.34 SPEAKER11943.34 -1943.34 If1943.34 you1943.5 do,1943.74 maybe1943.9 just1944.22 please1944.54 speak1944.86 more1945.58 clearly1945.9 into1946.14 the1946.38 mic1946.46 and1946.78 and1946.86 maybe1947.34 a1947.66 little1947.74 more1947.98 slowly,1948.22 please.1948.54 BOLYASNYY1949.02 -1949.02 What1949.02 is1949.18 the1949.34 permissible1949.42 areas1950.14 of,1950.54 regulations?1951.18 And,1952.6 I1953.63 think,1953.88 Tony1954.52 Huber,1954.91 pointed1956.19 out1956.52 a1956.99 list1957.15 of1957.47 things1957.55 which1957.88 are1958.67 provided1958.76 in1959.23 the1959.47 chapter,1959.95 401961.71 a1962.04 section1962.6 31962.99 of1963.23 Massachusetts1963.39 general1964.04 laws.1964.43 And1965.23 I1965.47 think1965.55 there1965.79 was1965.95 a1966.12 general1966.19 agreement1966.6 that,1967.08 there1968.49 are1968.73 areas1968.81 which1969.21 are1969.37 not1969.53 permissible1969.77 to1970.33 be1970.49 regulated.1970.73 I1972.25 think1972.41 there1972.57 was1972.73 an1972.89 agreement1973.05 by1974.89 the1975.21 BA,1975.45 it1975.93 was1976.09 the1976.73 BA1976.89 field1977.13 which1977.37 we1977.61 didn't1977.77 agree,1978.09 but1978.89 the1979.61 BA1979.85 field1980.17 was1980.41 that1980.65 a1980.97 legitimate1981.13 area1981.69 of1982.01 regulation1982.17 would1982.81 be1982.97 parking1983.51 as1984.54 it1984.7 pertains1984.87 to1985.27 force1985.42 pass.1985.74 And,1986.38 CPA1987.35 sends1987.83 the1988.14 case1989.11 to1989.51 the1990.3 Planning1991.03 Board.1991.03 And1991.03 as1991.27 a1991.42 meeting,1991.59 the1992.3 Planning1992.7 Board1992.7 promised1992.7 to1993.11 provide1993.51 a1993.98 staff1994.14 memo1994.54 to1995.11 the1995.27 planning1996.91 board.1997.31 Staff1997.71 planning1998.59 established1998.99 promised1999.47 to1999.87 provide2000.27 memo2000.67 to2000.91 the2001.07 planning2001.23 board2001.55 advising2002.19 the2003.07 Planning2003.47 board2003.47 of2003.71 what2003.87 would2004.11 be2004.19 permissible2006.19 areas2006.91 of2007.39 regulations.2007.95 To2009.15 our2009.39 knowledge,2009.63 no2010.49 such2010.65 memo2010.97 was2011.21 ever2011.62 provided2011.93 and2012.49 we2012.82 look2012.97 at2013.21 these2013.38 conditions,2013.62 which2015.45 go2015.86 beyond.2016.1 I2016.89 mean,2017.06 the2019.06 planning2019.3 board2019.69 pretty2020.02 much2020.17 conducted2020.41 the2020.97 full2021.3 site2022.41 plan2022.73 review.2022.97 This2024.66 is2024.82 one2024.98 of2025.22 the2025.38 reasons2025.46 when2025.7 we2026.02 amended2027.3 our2027.7 complaint2027.94 with2028.42 the2029.46 court,2029.62 Land2030.1 Court.2030.34 2031.7 We2031.7 asked2032.02 Land2032.58 Court2032.82 to2033.14 decide2033.46 that2033.94 some2034.42 of2034.58 the2034.82 bylaws2035.14 as2037.93 most2038.1 of2038.34 the2038.41 City2038.49 of2038.74 Watertown2038.82 as2039.22 it2039.38 pertains2039.46 to2040.58 lower2040.82 amendment-protected2042.58 projects2043.22 in2044.34 terms2044.49 of2044.74 site2044.89 plan2045.06 review2045.3 are2045.78 in2045.93 violation2046.17 of2046.82 the2046.98 law.2047.13 And2049.14 there2049.54 is2049.78 no2049.93 question2050.09 that2052.16 all2053.28 the2053.44 conditions2053.6 outside2054.16 of2054.64 112054.72 should2056.4 be2056.56 streaking2056.72 because2059.04 it2059.36 was2059.52 a2059.84 position2059.92 of2060.32 the2060.48 Board2060.64 or2061.36 the2061.6 BA,2061.76 this2062.24 is2062.48 the2062.56 reason2062.64 why2062.96 the2063.2 BA2063.36 was2063.68 sending2064.11 the2065.16 case2065.32 to2065.56 Planning2065.64 Board.2066.04 But2067.16 as2067.39 far2067.56 as2067.95 conditions2068.2 number2068.76 11,2069.08 and2070.04 this2070.36 was2070.52 the2070.84 purpose2070.99 for2071.47 which2071.64 the2073.39 case2073.56 was2073.88 sent2074.04 to2075.24 the2075.56 Planning2075.56 Board2075.88 by2076.11 the2076.28 BBA.2076.43 Well,2077.48 per2077.8 CBA's2078.2 explanation,2078.68 again,2079.24 we2079.56 don't2079.88 agree2080.12 with2080.52 this2080.68 decision,2080.92 but2081.32 it's2083.48 a2083.64 separate2084.52 matter.2084.84 There2089 is2089.24 no2089.4 question2089.56 that2090.2 the2090.52 burden2090.68 of2091 proof2091.08 has2091.24 been2091.48 met.2091.64 It's2092.3 been2092.45 met2092.54 as2092.61 I2092.86 mentioned2092.93 a2093.1 long2093.26 time2093.49 ago2093.74 because2094.06 there2094.38 is2094.45 a2094.61 scientific2094.78 traffic2096.14 study2096.54 and2097.02 you2097.18 cannot2097.58 argue2098.61 with2099.02 science,2099.18 you2099.74 cannot2099.97 argue2100.3 with2100.7 patterns2101.34 which2101.82 have2102.06 been2102.3 established2102.45 for2102.86 many,2103.02 many2103.26 years,2103.49 which2103.74 have2103.97 been2104.06 documented.2104.3 And2107.68 I2107.92 don't2108.08 believe2108.4 a2108.96 statement2109.04 that2109.84 burden2110.96 of2111.36 proof2111.44 has2111.68 not2111.84 been2112.08 met2112.24 is2112.64 made2113.04 in2113.28 a2113.52 good2113.6 phase.2113.76 That's2114.08 why2114.32 we2114.64 would2115.04 like2115.2 to2115.44 give2115.68 continues2116 to2116.56 the2116.96 Board2117.12 to2118.08 think2118.32 about2118.56 it2118.8 and2119.86 perhaps2120.18 we2121.39 can2121.55 discuss2121.78 it2122.11 as2122.26 well.2122.51 It's2122.74 the2122.91 next2123.07 meeting.2123.3 Thank2123.86 you.2124.03 2124.51 FERRIS2124.51 -2124.51 Great.2124.51 Thank2124.98 you.2125.14 So2125.46 you're2125.78 in2126.03 support2126.34 of,2126.74 continuing2128.59 this.2129.07 Thank2129.86 you.2130.11 2131.14 SCHREIBER2131.14 -2131.14 Mr.2131.14 oops.2131.86 I2132.18 forgot.2132.26 I2132.66 turned2132.74 up2132.98 the2133.14 volume.2133.22 I2135.04 did2135.44 want2135.6 to2135.76 identify2136.24 that2137.04 if,2137.44 we2138 received2138.24 it2138.56 on2138.72 November2138.88 27th,2139.44 if2141.76 you2141.92 counted2142.24 that2142.8 day,2143.04 in2144.48 total,2144.72 there2146.08 was2146.4 572147.04 this2147.68 is2147.84 day2148 57.2148.32 There's2150.02 an2150.26 additional2150.49 352150.89 days.2151.3 So2151.7 in2151.93 total,2152.09 it's2152.58 depending2153.3 on2153.54 if2153.7 you2153.86 count2153.93 both2154.49 days,2154.74 it's2154.97 912155.3 or2155.61 922155.78 days2156.34 since2156.89 we2157.61 received2157.86 the2159.22 appeal2159.54 in2159.78 the2159.93 city2160.09 clerk's2160.34 office.2160.74 I2161.98 don't2162.14 know2162.3 if2162.46 that2162.7 has2163.02 any2163.34 relevance2163.66 for2164.14 the2164.3 continuance,2164.62 but2166.38 I2167.26 double-checked2168.22 that2168.46 with,2168.7 Samina2169.82 Parani,2171.18 the2171.74 clerk.2171.9 2173.99 FERRIS2173.99 -2173.99 Great.2173.99 So2175.91 that2176.32 they're2176.71 from2177.91 the2179.67 staff2179.91 and2180.32 the2180.47 attorney's2180.64 perspective,2181.11 for2182.15 the2182.32 city,2182.47 there2182.8 doesn't2183.03 that2183.99 continuance2184.15 is2185.28 an2185.76 option2185.99 for2186.47 this2186.64 evening2186.88 until2187.76 the2188.65 next2188.81 hearing.2189.21 2190.01 SCHREIBER2190.01 -2190.01 It's,2190.01 the2191.61 applicant2191.93 would2192.41 need2192.57 to2192.73 be2192.89 requesting2193.21 it2193.61 clearly,2194.09 and2194.49 then2194.65 you2194.89 would2195.05 have2195.29 to2195.45 decide2195.53 that2195.85 you2195.93 would2196.09 wanna2196.25 do2196.49 a2196.65 continuance2196.73 instead2197.29 of2197.53 just,2197.69 making2198.25 discussing2199.29 it.2199.77 You2200.65 can2200.81 continue2200.97 the2201.45 hearing2201.53 as2201.85 well.2202.01 So2204.24 if2204.57 they're2205.36 requesting2205.68 it2206.09 to2206.24 be2206.41 continued,2206.57 then2207.13 you2207.28 can2207.45 decide2207.76 if2208.16 that's2208.32 what2208.8 you'd2209.05 like2209.36 to2209.53 do2209.61 or2209.76 if2209.93 you2210.09 would2210.16 like2210.32 to,2210.49 complete2211.68 your2212.01 deliberations.2213.05 2214.09 FERRIS2214.09 -2214.09 Okay.2214.09 Great.2214.41 Thank2215.2 you.2215.36 You2216.34 know,2216.42 there2216.58 I2216.82 do2217.22 see2217.38 that2217.54 there2217.7 are2217.94 some2218.02 members2218.18 of2218.5 the2218.66 public2219.06 here,2219.46 and,2220.42 as2221.14 long2221.38 as2221.54 it's2221.7 appropriate,2222.1 Gideon,2222.58 and2222.98 also2223.14 for2223.54 others2223.78 online2224.02 if2224.34 anyone2225.22 2226.18 SCHREIBER2226.18 -2226.18 I2226.18 just2226.34 realized2226.58 our,2227.14 attorney2227.78 has2228.18 raised2228.42 his2228.66 hand.2228.82 Please,2228.98 feel2230.54 free2230.7 to2231.58 is2232.06 that2232.3 okay2232.54 if2232.86 I2233.02

2233.41 SPEAKER12233.41 -2233.41 Oh,2233.41 please.2233.58 Yeah.2233.82

2234.14 SPEAKER22234.14 -2234.14 Yeah.2234.14 Feel2234.45 free2234.61 to2234.78 speak2235.02 up.2235.26 Sorry.2235.49 2237.58 SMERAGE2237.58 -2237.58 Thank2237.58 you.2237.82 Through2238.54 you,2238.86 Mr2239.34 Chair.2240.22 I2240.22 just2240.45 wanna2240.61 clarify2240.93 what,2242.22 Gideon2243.02 just2243.41 said2243.66 with2243.82 respect2244.06 to2244.38 the2244.54 timing,2244.78 because2246.21 it2246.45 would2246.61 determine2246.85 whether,2247.89 it2249.73 would2249.97 just2250.37 be2251.17 necessary2251.49 to2251.97 do2252.13 a2252.29 motion2252.45 for2252.77 continuance2253.09 with2253.81 the2254.05 applicants,2255.01 consent2257.09 or2258.11 if2258.84 a2259.24 written2259.72 extension2260.2 agreement2260.76 will2261.16 be2261.32 required.2261.55 Gideon,2263.24 I2263.8 calculate2263.95 the2264.59 1002264.84 days2265.39 now2265.72 that2265.95 I'm2266.11 actually2266.28 doing2266.68 the2266.91 math2267.07 and2267.32 looking2267.55 at2267.95 the2268.11 November2268.51 27th2269.16 filing,2269.88 as2271.19 March2271.99 7th.2272.55 Is2273.27 that2273.75 the2273.99 same2274.15 timeline2274.55 that2275.03 you2275.27 have?2275.43 2280.07 SCHREIBER2280.07 -2280.07 Yeah.2280.07 I2280.39 just2280.47 went,2280.71 I2281.19 went2281.35 to2281.59 February2281.83 26th,2282.31 which2282.79 is2283.03 the2283.27 day2283.43 of2283.67 our2283.91 next2284.07 zoning2284.8 board2285.11 meeting,2285.28 and2285.91 that2286.16 was2286.32 day2286.55 922287.99 if2288.47 you2288.72 count2288.8 the2289.11 day2289.2 that2289.43 they,2289.59 filed2292.07 it2292.39 at2292.55 the2292.64 clerk's2292.8 office.2293.11 And2294.32 so2294.95 2297.35 SMERAGE2298.15 -2298.15 Perfect.2298.15 So2298.15 in2298.55 that2298.95 case,2299.19 since2299.51 the2299.83 next2299.99 ZBA2301.59 meeting,2302.07 it2303.27 is2303.43 still2303.83 before2304.63 the2305.11 1002305.35 days,2305.67 the2308.95 board2309.86 could,2310.82 with2311.7 the2312.18 petitioners,2312.59 consent,2313.7 simply2314.43 do2314.82 a2314.99 motion2315.14 for2315.55 continuance2315.78 to2316.43 that2316.59 meeting,2316.91 and2318.03 not,2318.26 require2319.22 an2320.03 extension2320.43 agreement2320.91 just2321.55 yet2321.78 because2322.11 it's2322.43 possible,2322.66 to2324.18 then,2324.34 if2325.69 the2326.09 hearing2326.33 is2327.21 continued2327.45 tonight2327.93 to2328.57 the2328.81 meeting2329.05 on2329.45 26th2329.77 and2330.17 then2330.33 concluded2330.49 at2331.05 26th,2331.37 it's2332.25 still2332.57 possible2332.81 to2333.13 issue2333.29 a2333.53 decision,2333.69 within2334.49 the2334.73 1002334.97 days.2335.45 2336.41 FERRIS2336.41 -2336.41 Great.2336.41 Thank2336.73 you.2336.97 And,2340.09 Gideon,2340.18 you2340.49 can,2340.66 please2341.21 advise2341.7 on2342.18 on2342.41 this2342.57 next2342.82 question2342.97 of2343.3 mine.2343.45 You2345.14 know,2345.3 after2345.53 we2346.01 hear2346.26 from2346.57 other2346.97 board2347.3 members,2347.61 with2349.05 the2349.38 scenario,2349.86 potentially2350.97 and2351.53 or2351.7 likely2351.86 just2352.41 granting2352.8 a2353.52 continuance2353.68 until2354.24 the2354.56 next2354.72 hearing.2355.12 I'm2357.6 feeling2358.24 it2358.64 makes2358.88 sense.2359.04 I2359.44 appreciate2359.76 members2360.24 of2360.64 the2360.72 public2360.88 being2361.36 here,2361.6 but2361.92 I'm2362.16 feeling2362.24 it2362.56 makes2362.72 sense2362.96 that,2363.36 the2364.32 most2364.48 effective2364.72 use2365.2 of2365.44 people's2365.6 time2366.24 would2367.14 be2367.39 to2368.18 have2368.27 the2368.51 public2368.66 speak2368.99 next2369.79 month2370.11 versus2370.51 this2371.07 evening.2371.31 Although2371.79 I2372.11 don't2372.18 wanna2372.35 certainly2372.66 deny2373.07 anybody,2373.47 you2374.27 know,2374.43 from2374.51 from2375.22 making2375.47 comment,2375.86 but,2376.27 how2376.74 do2376.91 you2376.99 feel2377.14 about2377.39 that?2377.63 2381.84 SCHREIBER2381.84 -2381.84 I2381.84 defer2382.08 a2385.2 little2385.28 to2385.6 the2385.84 chair2386 but2386.32 also2386.48 to2386.8 our2386.88 attorney2387.76 if2388.24 there's2388.4 a2388.72 reason2389.04 not2389.44 to.2389.68 I2390 think2390.24 you're2390.8 having2391.12 a2391.36 hearing2391.44 tonight.2391.76 They2392.56 haven't2392.72 requested2393.04 it2393.52 to2393.68 be2393.76 continued.2394 They've2394.72 submitted2395.39 material2395.8 and2396.36 they've2396.52 presented.2396.76 And2397.64 so2397.8 I2397.95 think2398.03 unless2398.84 there's2399.16 a2399.39 good2399.47 reason2399.72 for2400.03 it,2400.2 I'm2400.52 not2400.68 sure2400.84 what2402.36 the2402.59 reason2402.68 for2403.16 continuing2403.39 it2404.03 is2404.36 based2404.52 on2404.76 the2404.99 questions2405.07 that2405.47 you've2405.64 asked,2405.88 but2406.36 I2406.52 defer2406.99 to2407.39 you2407.55 to2408.28 decide2408.43 if2408.84 they've2409.74 come2410.14 here.2410.78 So2411.18 if2411.34 they2411.5 have,2411.66 it2412.7 doesn't2412.86 mean2413.1 that2413.26 we2413.5 would2413.66 be2413.82 able2413.98 to2414.22 answer2414.38 questions.2414.86 It's2415.26 for2416.54 them2416.7 to2416.94 provide2417.1 testimony,2417.5 so2418.06 you2418.22 could2418.38 take2418.54 that2418.7 in.2419.82 Now2419.82 because2420.3 they're2420.7 here,2420.86 if2421.1 there's2421.42 anyone2421.74 interested.2422.06 But2423.34 that's2423.51 you2424.46 as2424.63 the2424.86 board.2425.26 2425.51 FERRIS2425.51 -2425.51 Thanks.2425.51 So2426.39 then2426.46 I2426.63 feel2427.34 we2427.51 should2427.66 do2427.82 that.2427.91 I2428.22 apologize.2428.63 This2429.18 is2429.42 not2429.51 my2429.74 typical2429.98 role2430.39 here,2430.63 this2431.11 evening.2431.26 So2431.59 I2431.74 just2431.82 wanted2432.07 to2432.3 make2432.39 sure2432.55 I2432.78 was,2432.86 going2434.55 along2434.78 in2435.18 the2435.34 appropriate2435.51 way.2436.07 So2436.3 I2436.89 do2437.05 see2437.21 that2437.29 there2437.61 are2437.77 members2438.01 here2438.33 from2438.73 the2439.13 public.2439.29 Would2439.69 anybody2439.85 like2440.25 to,2440.49 speak2440.97 or2441.45 and2444.73 so,2445.05 Sir,2445.21 if2445.45 you2445.61 come2445.69 to2445.93 the2446.09 microphone2446.25 and2446.89 state2447.93 your2448.17 name2448.41 and2448.65 2451.54 SILVESTRI2451.54 BUSCEMI2451.54 -2451.54 RESIDENT2451.54 -2451.54 You2451.54 know2451.7 what?2451.86 My2452.09 name2452.26 is2452.34 Silvestri2452.57 Buscemi.2453.05 I2454.09 own2454.26 the2454.49 property2454.66 next2455.38 to2455.7 it,2455.93 1412456.26 Galen2456.89 Street,2457.3 a2457.86 3-family.2458.26 I2459.3 have2459.45 22459.7 car2459.86 parking.2460.18 It's2460.89 a2461.14 3-family.2461.45 I've2461.93 owned2462.09 it2462.34 since2462.41 2001.2462.82 I2464.64 deal2464.8 with2465.04 the2465.12 parking2465.28 over2465.92 in2466.16 that2466.24 area.2466.4 My2468.16 tenants2468.48 don't2468.8 have2469.12 a2469.36 space2469.44 now2469.92 for2470.24 guests2470.88 to2471.28 come2471.36 over2471.6 because2472 they've2472.24 changed2472.48 Old2472.8 Boyd2473.04 Street2473.36 to2473.6 1-hour2473.92 parking.2474.16 Not2475.04 sure2475.2 if2475.36 that2475.52 was2475.68 to2475.84 accommodate2476 him2476.64 or2476.88 not,2477.04 but2477.68 they've2477.91 changed2478.07 another2478.47 one2478.8 hour.2479.03 So2479.2 people2479.43 can't2479.68 have2479.91 somebody2479.99 come2480.39 over2480.55 and2480.88 visit2481.03 anymore.2481.43 They2482.32 have2482.47 to2482.72 go2482.8 wherever.2483.36 That's2484.88 a2485.11 hindrance2485.2 to2485.68 the2485.84 property.2485.99 I've2486.88 been2487.03 there2487.2 for2487.43 a2487.51 long2487.59 time.2487.84 2488.64 All2488.64 these2488.88 people2489.03 all2489.84 known2489.99 to2490.23 the2490.47 warehouses2490.55 next2491.2 to2491.43 it.2491.51 Bent2493.24 over2493.4 backward,2493.72 a2494.12 lot2494.2 of2494.36 the2494.44 people2494.52 in2494.76 that2494.92 neighborhood2495.08 for2495.56 him.2495.8 I2496.12 mean,2496.2 how2496.44 much2496.6 can2496.84 you2496.92 bend?2497.16 People2498.04 go2498.36 to2498.52 work2498.68 there,2498.92 they2499.32 have2499.56 a2499.72 car.2499.8 People2501 have2501.4 gone2501.72 to2501.96 that2502.04 daycare,2502.28 they2502.84 have2503 parked2503.16 in2503.48 our2503.64 spots2503.88 over2504.6 there.2504.84 How2506.72 much2506.89 can2507.05 we2507.28 do?2507.44 People2508.64 go2508.96 to2509.2 work2509.28 there.2509.36 If2509.61 they2509.68 have2509.84 a2509.92 car,2510.01 they2510.24 have2510.41 to2510.57 park2510.64 somewhere.2510.89 He2511.28 has2511.36 to2511.61 rent2511.68 a2511.92 spot.2512.09 I2512.8 have2512.96 tenants.2513.2 I2513.76 have2513.92 to2514.09 rent2514.16 spots2514.48 over2514.8 there.2514.96 They2515.68 rent2515.92 it.2516.16 I2516.32 make2516.48 concessions2516.64 on2517.13 the2517.28 rent.2517.36 Whatever2517.76 it2518.09 is,2518.24 I've2518.48 done2518.72 it2518.89 since2519.28 2001.2519.68 I2520.62 deal2520.86 with2521.02 it.2521.26 I'm2521.82 not2522.06 here2522.22 at2522.38 the2522.54 board2522.62 saying2522.94 this2523.66 and2523.9 that.2524.14 I2524.46 deal2524.62 with2524.78 it.2525.02 I2525.66 think2525.74 he2525.98 needs2526.06 to2526.18 deal2526.3 with2526.54 it2526.7 too.2526.86 2527.26 FERRIS2527.26 -2527.26 Great.2527.26 Thank2527.5 you.2527.66 Just2527.9 a2528.22 couple2528.38 questions2528.62 for2528.94 you.2529.1 I'm2529.58 remembering2529.74 the2530.22 site2530.38 plan.2530.62 So2531.91 are2532.95 your2533.03 tenant2533.43 spaces2533.84 accessed,2534.64 through2535.91 the2536.23 site2536.8 on2537.28 Boyd2537.59 Street?2537.84 2539.28 BUSCEMI2539.28 -2539.28 Yeah.2539.28 You2539.51 come2539.91 in2540.07 through2540.32 Boyd2540.47 Street,2540.88 those2541.76 row2541.99 houses2542.16 that2542.55 face2542.71 Galen.2542.95 2543.36 FERRIS2543.36 -2543.36 Yes.2543.36 Right.2543.68 2543.99 BUSCEMI2543.99 -2543.99 I'm2543.99 in2544.16 the2544.32 center2544.47 there.2544.88 And,2545.8 you2546.36 know,2546.52 like2546.68 I2546.92 said,2547 I2547.08 have2547.16 22547.32 car2547.56 parking.2548.52 You2548.52 know,2548.6 for2548.76 the2548.92 32549.08 family.2549.32 Yep.2549.8 There's2550.12 one2551.56 park2551.8 and2552.2 one2552.52 apartment2552.52 on2553 the2553.16 3rd2553.24 floor2553.48 they2553.72 have2553.8 two2553.96 people2554.12 living2554.36 in.2554.6 They2555.32 don't2555.48 have2555.64 any2555.88 parking2556.04 there.2556.44 2556.76 FERRIS2556.76 -2556.76 Yep.2556.76 So2557.47 and2557.64 what2557.8 you're2557.88 saying2558.11 is2558.36 that,2558.52 at2559.07 sometimes2559.24 what's2559.72 been2560.03 happening2560.2 since2560.68 the2560.91 daycare2561.07 has2561.39 been2561.55 in2561.72 operation2561.88 is2562.28 that,2562.43 somebody2563.39 other2564.68 than2564.91 your2565.16 tenants2565.39 have2565.8 been2565.88 parked2566.03 there.2566.2 BUSCEMI2566.36 -2566.36 Yeah.2566.36 One2566.43 of2566.59 my2566.68 tenants2566.76 told2567.16 me2567.39 that2567.64 somebody2567.88 was2568.2 parked2568.36 there.2568.59 Somebody2569.16 else2569.55 had2569.8 had2570.11 an2570.28 issue.2570.52 And,2571.26 you2571.9 know,2572.06 so2572.22 we2572.86 deal2573.02 with2573.26 it.2573.42 It's2573.66 fine.2573.9 You2574.7 know?2574.86 But2575.1 like2575.5 I2575.74 said,2575.82 he2576.94 needs2577.1 to2577.34 deal2577.42 with2577.58 it2577.74 too.2577.9 2578.22 FERRIS2578.22 -2578.22 Yep.2578.22 Thank2578.54 you2578.7 for2578.78 letting2578.94 us2579.26 know.2579.42 Thank2579.74 you,2579.9 sir.2580.14 Actually,2581.82 we're2583.5 gonna2583.66 wait2583.9 to2584.06 hear,2584.38 from2584.78 others.2584.94 Thanks.2585.26 Anybody2586.89 else,2587.28 from2587.84 the2588.01 public,2588.09 please?2588.97

2594.49 SPEAKER102594.49 -2594.49 Hi.2594.49

2594.97 SPEAKER12594.97 -2594.97 Hi.2594.97

2595.61 MICHELLE2595.61 ALPERT2595.61 -2595.61 RESIDENT2595.61 -2595.61 My2595.61 name2595.76 is2595.93 Michelle2596.24 Alpert.2596.8

2598.89 SPEAKER12598.89 -2598.89 oh.2598.89 Thank2599.13 you.2599.28 Sorry.2599.61 That's2600.01 okay.2600.24 Thanks.2600.64 2601.2 ALPERT2601.2 -2601.2 I2601.2 live2602.01 at2602.17 1392602.65 Galen2603.37 Street2603.77 and2604.01 I've2604.17 lived2604.33 there2604.57 for2604.81 202604.97 years.2605.37 And2606.57 Robert2607.29 Leath2607.77 has2608.09 lived2608.17 there2608.41 for2608.65 852608.97 years.2609.45 So2610.81 it2611.69 is2611.85 a2612.09 private2612.25 way2612.65 and2613.13 we2613.37 have2613.61 accommodated2613.93 for2614.73 all2614.97 the2615.21 traffic,2615.37 which2616.22 there's2616.47 been2616.79 a2617.03 lot.2617.11 They2617.83 changed2618.14 the2618.86 parking.2619.11 Generally,2620.7 a2621.11 lot2621.27 of2621.43 people2621.51 do2621.83 park2622.07 on2622.47 the2622.63 opposite2622.86 side2623.35 of2623.59 that2623.74 street2623.91 because2624.39 they2624.7 commute2624.86 and2625.18 take2625.35 the2625.51 bus.2625.66 That's2626.07 been2626.47 ongoing2626.63 for2627.18 a2627.43 long2627.59 time.2627.83 I2628.75 when2630.03 this2630.67 particular2630.91 person2631.39 bought2631.79 the2631.95 building,2632.19 there2632.59 was2632.83 never2633.07 a2633.39 lot2633.47 of2633.63 spaces2633.79 there.2634.27 So2634.75 he2634.99 knew2635.15 that2635.39 prior2635.79 to2636.27 purchasing2636.59 the2637.15 building.2637.31 And2638.59 for2638.75 202638.99 years2639.39 since2639.63 I've2639.87 lived2640.11 there,2640.35 there's2640.59 only2640.83 been2641.07 like2641.31 62641.55 or2641.71 82641.95 spots.2642.19 So2643.8 I2644.2 don't2644.36 know2644.61 where2644.84 there's2645.09 gonna2645.32 be2645.64 a2645.8 range2645.89 parking2646.29 unless2646.84 it's2647.16 public2647.57 parking.2648.05 And2649.24 when2649.49 I2649.72 go2649.8 to2649.97 work,2650.13 I2650.36 have2650.45 to2650.61 pay2650.77 for2650.93 parking.2651.09 So2651.49 they2651.72 don't2651.89 give2652.45 me2652.68 parking.2653.01 So2653.97 if2654.13 I2654.29 have2654.45 to2654.61 work2654.68 and2654.93 I2655.09 have2655.16 to2655.32 walk2655.49 or2656.13 pay,2656.45 I2657.24 do.2657.49 Like2658.39 everybody2658.55 else,2659.03 I'm2659.27 assuming2659.51 in2659.91 Massachusetts,2660.07 it's2660.87 not2661.11 easy.2661.35 I2662.23 just2662.31 don't2662.55 understand2662.79 how2663.35 the2664.31 owners,2664.55 the2665.11 tenants,2665.35 the2666.39 actual2667.27 landlords2668.23 have2668.87 to2669.11 accommodate2669.27 a2669.99 business2670.15 that2670.71 he2671.03 should2671.19 be2671.35 accommodating2671.51 on2672.15 his2672.39 own.2672.55 2672.55 Even2673.39 though2673.63 it's2673.7 a2673.95 daycare,2674.11 of2674.59 course,2674.74 but2674.99 there's2675.22 also2675.47 a2675.86 major2676.11 safety2676.59 issue.2677.14 I2677.86 have2678.03 concerns2678.18 for2679.22 that.2679.39 There's2680.59 lots2681.14 of2681.47 children.2681.63 They2682.11 have2682.27 to2682.51 be2682.66 escorted.2683.07 They're2684.43 babies.2684.66 So2685.9 they2686.22 can't2686.46 just2686.78 park2687.1 and2687.74 be2687.98 let2688.14 out.2688.38 Somebody2688.86 has2689.26 to2689.5 park,2689.66 take2690.06 their2690.3 babies,2690.54 and2691.9 actually2692.22 bring2692.62 them2692.86 into2693.18 the2693.42 daycare2693.66 and2695.1 get2695.34 them2695.58 all2695.82 squared2696.14 away,2696.54 and2696.94 then2697.18 go2697.42 back2697.58 to2697.82 their2697.98 cars.2698.22 So2699.02 that2700.03 really2700.26 is2700.74 an2701.14 issue2701.3 that2701.63 that's2701.95 my2702.26 biggest2702.51 issue,2702.82 safety.2703.47 So2704.74 I2705.14 don't2705.3 want2705.55 babies2705.78 hurt.2706.18 I2706.51 don't2706.66 want2706.82 any2707.14 accidents.2707.47 There's2708.51 no2708.82 parking.2708.99 We're2709.47 in2709.7 a2709.86 private2709.95 way.2710.43 We're2711.14 deeded2711.55 that2712.59 easement,2713.39 which2714.91 is2715.15 part2715.31 of2715.55 the2715.71 property2715.95 that2716.51 everyone2716.75 here2717.23 pays2717.63 taxes2718.11 on.2718.75 So,2719.07 we2719.79 don't2719.95 know2720.11 what2720.27 kind2720.43 of2720.75 parking2720.99 arrangement2721.55 this2722.11 gentleman2722.35 is2722.83 gonna2723.07 be2723.39 trying2724.19 to2724.51 supersede2725.07 if2725.95 that2726.19 is2726.43 the2726.83 case,2726.99 but2727.39 I2727.88 don't2727.95 know2728.11 where2728.19 he's2728.51 gonna2728.67 have2728.91 his2729.07 employees2729.39 park.2729.88 And2730.84 should2731.07 that2731.32 be2731.55 our2731.95 problem2732.11 as2732.76 tax-paying2734.28 citizens2734.76 to2735.39 have2736.36 to2736.67 actually2737.32 ascertain2737.95 parking2738.67 for2739.16 this2739.39 gentleman2739.55 for2740.45 a2740.57 business?2740.69 2740.69 I2741.25 understand2741.49 it's2742.05 vital2742.29 to2742.69 the2742.85 community,2742.93 but2743.81 it's2743.97 not2744.21 our2744.37 responsibility.2744.61 So2746.29 that2746.45 is2746.69 a2746.85 concern2747.01 I2747.41 have.2747.57 There's2747.81 a2748.05 lot2748.21 of2748.45 traffic2748.53 now.2749.09 He's2749.65 done2749.89 a2750.13 good2750.21 job2750.45 coordinating2750.85 things,2751.65 but2752.64 he2753.2 doesn't2753.36 have2753.68 the2753.91 642754.16 people2754.72 there2755.03 because2755.28 I've2755.59 watched.2755.84 There's2756.88 not2757.11 642757.43 people.2757.91 I2758.39 think2758.47 he2758.8 has2758.95 another2759.28 daycare.2759.68 I2760.39 don't2760.64 know.2760.8 I2761.68 think2761.76 that's2761.99 still2762.32 open.2762.64 But2763.84 what2764.07 happens2764.32 when2764.64 there's2764.8 642765.11 children2765.68 all2766.48 at2766.64 the2766.72 same2766.96 time2767.2 on2768.08 that2768.32 busy2768.56 street?2769.04 It's2769.52 a2769.76 very2770 busy2770.32 street.2770.72 As2771.6 you2771.76 know,2771.92 if2772.16 you're2772.24 from2772.4 Watertown,2772.72 Galen2773.44 at2774.4 the2774.56 corner2774.72 of2775.12 board2775.2 is2775.52 crazy.2775.6 It's2776 a2776.24 cutthroat.2776.4 And2777.2 people2777.52 speed,2778 and2779.01 it's2779.24 needs2779.64 to2779.96 be2780.2 watched.2780.36 I've2780.92 I've2781.32 written2781.64 the2782.84 city2783.01 about2783.4 it2783.64 because2783.8 I2784.05 have2784.2 great2784.44 concerns.2784.84 So2786.61 that's2786.76 all2787.09 I2787.24 have2787.4 to2787.57 say.2787.64 And2787.96 Robert,2788.36 who's2788.84 owned2789.4 the2789.64 building2789.72 for2790.13 852790.44 years,2790.92 has2791.24 never2791.48 seen2791.8 this2792.53 much2792.76 traffic,2793.01 and2793.4 he's2793.57 worried2793.8 about2794.2 safety2794.82 for2795.78 the2796.18 children2796.42 and2798.02 other2798.1 people2798.42 as2798.74 well.2798.98 So2799.3 that2799.78 is2799.94 a2800.18 major2800.26 concern2800.66 that2801.22 I2801.46 hope2801.54 you2801.78 take2801.94 into2802.1 consideration.2802.42 Thank2803.62 you2803.94 very2804.1 much.2804.26 2804.5 FERRIS2804.5 -2804.5 Yep.2804.5 Safety2804.74 is2805.14 a2805.22 big2805.38 concern.2805.54 Thank2805.94 you.2806.18 Any2807.94 other2808.18 members2808.42 here2808.82 this2809.06 evening?2809.3 And2810.8 then,2810.96 Gideon,2811.61 are2812.32 there2812.48 other2812.64 members,2812.89 in2813.53 the2813.68 audience2813.76 that2814.16 might2814.32 like2814.57 to2814.72 speak?2814.8

2815.28 SPEAKER22815.28 -2815.28 There2815.28 are2816.16 no2816.41 hands2816.57 raised2816.89 at2817.13 this2817.28 time.2817.44

2817.76 SPEAKER12817.76 -2817.76 No2817.76 hands2817.93 raised.2818.24 Okay.2818.57 Sir,2820.16 please,2820.48 if2820.72 you2820.89 come2821.05 to2821.2 the2821.28 microphone.2821.44 2825.74 FERRIS2825.74 -2825.74 So2825.74 I'm2826.06 gonna,2826.78 ask2827.66 you2827.9 to2828.02 make2828.14 your2828.46 response2828.78 brief.2829.26 You2829.5 actually2829.66 spoke2829.98 quite2830.14 a2830.38 bit2830.46 about2830.62 parking2830.86 before,2831.5 so.2832.22 The2832.7 public2832.86 has2833.1 made2833.34 a2833.5 few2833.58 comments.2833.82 So2834.06 if2834.22 you2834.3 just2834.46 be2834.78 brief2834.94 in2835.18 your2835.34 response.2835.5 BOLYASNYY2837.24 -2837.24 Well,2837.24 I2837.47 didn't2838.36 really2838.68 understand2838.91 what2839.39 these2839.8 people,2840.04 were2840.99 saying,2841.16 but2841.56 apparently,2842.68 I2843.88 do2844.12 understand2844.36 that2844.76 there2844.91 is2845.16 actually2845.47 a2846.28 very2846.6 huge2847.39 similarity2847.8 between2848.43 the2848.99 board2849.16 and2849.56 them.2849.8 Well,2851.1 both2851.42 of2851.58 you2851.74 are2851.98 defendants2852.22 in2853.1 a2853.34 lawsuit.2853.42 I2855.5 did2855.74 not2855.9 see2856.14 these2856.46 people2856.7 come2858.06 to2859.98 for2860.3 the2860.54 BA2860.7 meeting.2860.94 I2862.14 did2862.3 not2862.54 hear2862.78 these2863.76 people2864.01 come2864.97 to2865.28 the2865.45 planning2865.61 board.2866.01 I2866.72 did2866.89 not2867.13 hear2867.36 these2868.24 people2868.41 expressing2868.97 any2869.53 concerns2869.84 about2870.57 the2870.89 project2871.05 until2871.53 we2872.24 fired2872.41 lawsuit2872.72 against2873.2 them.2873.53 Four,2874.48 interfering2876.42 with2877.14 use2877.46 of2877.7 our2877.94 property.2878.18 Mr.2882.34 Buscemi2883.22 was2883.22 expressing2883.62 concerns2884.18 about2884.58 parking.2884.9 Well,2885.38 he2885.86 should2886.02 have2886.18 mentioned2886.34 when2886.82 we2887.06 moved2887.46 in,2887.7 I2888.02 meant2888.34 met2889.14 him.2889.38 Initially2890.09 I2890.28 found2890.48 him2890.72 a2890.96 pleasant2891.13 person.2891.44 He2892.32 shared2892.72 his2893.2 prosecute2893.53 issues.2894.01 2894.4 And2894.4 I2894.64 told2894.8 him2894.96 you're2895.13 more2895.36 than2895.53 welcome2895.68 to2896.48 use2896.64 our2897.05 property2897.28 for2898.96 your2899.2 needs2899.44 because2899.76 we're2900.16 not2900.32 using2900.57 it2900.88 or2901.2 we're2901.36 never2901.61 not2901.84 using2902.09 it.2902.32 He2902.48 offered2902.64 me2902.96 money.2903.13 We2904.01 declined2904.24 money.2904.72 But2906.06 then2906.3 he2907.1 decided,2907.34 these2907.98 other2908.3 people,2908.86 to2909.1 direct2909.34 defense.2909.66 And2910.78 then2911.02 we2911.34 file2911.58 a2911.74 lawsuit.2911.9 And2913.5 then2913.66 Mr.2914.3 Buscemi2914.7 called2914.7 me.2914.94 He2915.18 tell2915.26 me,2915.5 Max,2915.98 it's2916.46 gonna2916.62 be2916.94 payback.2917.1 I2918.06 will2918.14 destroy2918.38 you.2918.86 And2919.39 what?2919.64 What2919.8 he's2920.03 doing?2920.43 He2920.91 told2921.16 me2921.32 personally.2921.47 So2922.51 you2922.99 can2923.23 listen2923.39 to2923.71 him,2923.88 to2924.28 them.2924.51 You2924.84 can2924.99 think2925.16 about2925.39 safety.2925.71 Well,2926.11 it's2926.36 interesting2926.43 how2926.84 this2926.99 person2927.16 is2927.47 telling2927.55 me2927.8 how2927.95 to2928.11 run2928.28 the2928.43 daycare.2928.59 I2929.64 mean,2929.8 I've2930.03 been2930.11 doing2930.28 it2930.51 for2930.68 252930.84 years.2931.39 I2932.4 still2932.56 have2932.88 a2933.04 lot2933.12 to2933.36 learn,2933.44 but2934.16 please2934.48 don't2934.72 tell2934.88 us2935.04 how2935.2 to2935.36 run2935.44 our2935.68 business.2935.84 We2936.32 don't2936.48 tell2936.64 you2936.8 how2936.96 to2937.08 run2937.2 your2937.44 business.2937.6 2938 FERRIS2938 -2938 That's2938 funny.2938.56 Thank2938.96 you2939.2 very2939.36 much.2939.6 I2939.92 appreciate2940.08 it.2940.48 Gideon,2941.92 just2942.24 for,2942.4 my2942.88 clarity2943.12 again,2943.52 at2944 the2944.08 very,2944.8 kind2946.08 of2946.32 start2946.48 of2947.04 the2947.2 intent2948.45 for,2948.93 this2949.49 building's2949.73 use,2950.3 by2953.49 the2953.73 applicant,2954.05 one2955.18 of2955.41 the2955.49 first2955.57 steps2955.82 was2956.14 actually2956.3 the2956.93 planning2957.18 and2957.49 zoning2957.66 meeting.2958.05 Correct?2958.38 Or2960.93 the2961.34 zoning2961.49 hearing.2961.89 Correct?2962.21 That2962.7 was2962.78 one2963.02 of2963.06 the2963.1 first2963.26 steps2963.5 in2963.82 terms2963.98 of2964.22 this2964.38 applicant's2964.62 use2965.18 of2965.42 the2965.5 property.2965.66 2967.34 SCHREIBER2967.34 -2967.34 It's2968.43 an2968.7 existing2968.94 building.2969.42 And2970.14 so2970.22 there's2970.38 an2970.62 existing,2970.86 22971.98 units2972.22 on2972.62 the2972.78 second2972.86 floor2973.18 that2973.42 had2973.58 been2973.74 occupied.2973.9 I2974.86 think2975.02 they2975.18 were2975.26 vacant2975.5 at2975.82 the2975.98 time2976.06 of2976.3 the2976.46 planning2977.32 board.2977.64 But2978.76 it2979.28 was2979.4 a2979.57 site2979.64 plan2979.8 review2980.05 hearing2980.53 before2980.92 the2981.24 planning2981.32 board,2981.72 subsequent2982.84 to2983.32 that2983.48 initial,2983.8 building2985.8 permits2986.13 middle.2986.61 And2988.36 that2988.44 was2988.61 a2988.76 public2988.84 testimony.2989.16 2989.72 FERRIS2989.72 -2989.72 Just2989.72 to2989.89 refresh2990.05 my2990.36 memory,2990.44 and2990.76 I'm2990.84 I2991.01 certainly2991.09 may2991.48 be2991.64 wrong,2991.8 but2992.05 this2992.36 the2992.71 start2992.95 of2993.19 it2993.43 before2993.67 the2994.79 applicant2994.95 actually2995.51 went2995.91 to2996.15 the2996.31 Planning2997.27 Board,2997.59 the2997.59 applicant2997.75 was2998.15 here2998.39 at2998.71 the2998.87 zoning2999.11 board.2999.51 3001.83 SCHREIBER3001.83 -3001.83 Yes.3001.83 Yeah.3002.55 3002.79 FERRIS3002.79 -3002.79 That's3002.79 okay.3003.03 I3003.35 don't3003.43 need3003.83 the3003.99 date,3004.15 but3004.31 I3004.55 just3004.63 3005.11 SCHREIBER3005.11 -3005.11 Yeah.3005.11 I'm3005.35 just3005.51 I3005.91 it3006.23 there's3006.71 been3007.03 a3007.27 lot3007.35 of3007.51 so3007.75 they3008.24 applied3009.43 for3009.76 a3009.91 building3009.99 permit.3010.88 Which3011.28 is3011.43 currently3012.16 being,3014.39 and3014.64 here3014.64 was3014.64 an3014.8 appeal3015.04 of3016.16 the3016.32 determination3016.56 of3017.36 the3017.43 zoning3018.24 enforcement3018.72 officer3019.2 that3019.6 it3019.76 required3019.91 site3020.32 plan3020.56 review.3020.8 And3021.52 so3021.68 it3021.84 came3021.99 here3022.16 first.3023.27 3023.67 FERRIS3023.67 -3023.67 Okay.3023.67 Great.3023.99 So,3025.35 Sir,3025.59 actually,3026.15 I3026.35 just3026.55 want3026.79 to3026.95 address3027.11 your3027.35 comment3027.51 that3027.83 appeal.3028.15 That3029.19 you3029.43 just3029.59 made3029.75 a3029.99 a3030.11 few3030.23 moments3030.47 ago3030.87 in3031.27 regards3031.51 to3031.91 people3032.23 commenting3032.63 on3033.11 parking3033.51 and3033.91 concerns3034.07 for3034.55 parking.3034.71 So3035.61 one3035.93 of3036.01 your3036.26 first3036.49 steps3036.82 in3037.38 looking3038.49 to3038.82 use3038.97 this3039.3 property3039.53 for3040.82 the3041.14 use3041.53 that3041.69 you're3041.86 currently3042.01 having3042.89 happened3044.66 there3044.89 was3045.69 here3045.93 at3046.17 the3046.26 zoning3046.41 board.3046.82 I3047.21 was3047.45 here3047.61 and3048.36 there3048.52 was3048.76 a3048.84 lot3049.08 of,3049.32 testimony3050.04 questions3050.76 about3051.4 parking,3051.8 use3052.52 of3052.68 the3052.84 street,3052.92 etcetera.3053.24 So3054.2 I3054.44 just3054.52 wanted3054.76 to3055 respond3055.24 to3055.64 your3055.96 comment3056.28 just3056.68 then3056.92 to3057.16 the3057.64 public's3057.8 commentary3058.36 that3059.32 parking3059.48 all3060.04 of3060.2 a3060.28 sudden3060.36 is3060.68 a3060.92 new3061.8 issue.3062.04 It's3062.68 been3062.92 something3063.16 that3063.56 primarily3064.91 the3065.39 safety3065.55 of3065.95 people3066.19 using3066.91 the3067.15 building,3067.23 the3067.64 children3067.8 using3068.11 the3068.43 building,3068.51 the3068.76 people3068.91 who3069.15 live3069.32 in3069.47 the3069.55 neighborhood,3069.71 traffic3070.43 on3070.84 the3070.99 street3071.15 is3071.55 is3071.88 not3072.11 a3072.43 new3072.59 topic.3072.84 I3073.71 was3073.88 here,3074.03 when3074.76 your3075.8 team3076.11 was3076.36 here3076.51 and3076.76 it3076.91 was3077.07 a3077.32 topic3077.47 that3077.8 was3077.95 well3078.19 discussed.3078.43 So3078.91 thank3079.15 you.3079.39 I3082.42 guess3082.58 what3082.9 I'd3083.14 like3083.38 to3083.54 do3083.62 at3083.78 this3083.86 point3084.02 in3084.42 time3084.58 is3084.82 to3084.98 see3085.14 if,3085.38 any3086.02 board3086.34 members3086.58 have3086.98 questions3087.14 for3087.62 the3087.94 applicant.3088.18 So,3091.14 maybe3092.82 starting3093.14 to3093.45 my3093.78 left,3094.02 member3094.74 Baker.3095.14 3099.05 SARAH3099.05 BAKER3099.05 -3099.05 ZONING3099.05 BOARD3099.05 OF3099.05 APPEALS3099.05 MEMBER3099.05 -3099.05 Thank3099.05 you,3099.38 Mr.3099.54 Chair.3099.86 I3102.82 guess3102.89 my3103.22 first3103.45 question3104.43 has3105.07 to3105.31 do3105.47 with3105.63 the3105.87 public3105.95 parking3106.27 on3106.75 Boyd3107.07 Street.3107.47 I3107.87 just3108.03 wanted3108.19 to3108.51 confirm,3108.67 I've3109.87 there3110.27 was3110.59 an3110.75 indication3110.99 of3111.55 this3111.71 in,3112.59 the3113.87 planning3114.03 board3114.43 notes,3114.75 and3115.55 then3115.71 it3115.87 was3115.95 mentioned3116.11 here3116.59 now.3116.83 Is3117.15 all3117.47 of3117.71 Boyd3117.87 Street3118.19 13118.43 hour3118.67 parking?3118.91 3123.13 FERRIS3123.13 -3123.13 I3123.13 wouldn't3123.45 be3123.77 able3123.93 to3124.09 respond3124.24 to3124.57 that3124.64 at3125.53 this3125.61 meeting.3125.84 There's3126.32 definitely3127.2 a3127.77 one-hour3128.09 parking3128.32 area.3128.72 It's3129.13 in3129.36 the3129.61 traffic3130.09 rules.3130.49 3131.36 BAKER3131.36 -3131.36 Okay.3131.36 And3132.59 I'm3132.99 assuming3133.23 Galen3133.71 Street3134.03 around3134.27 that3134.51 area3134.67 is3134.99 mostly3135.15 metered3135.47 parking.3135.87 But3137.23 what3137.47 I'm3137.63 getting3137.79 to3138.11 is3138.35 some3138.51 of3138.67 the3138.83 initial3139.23 comments3139.63 in,3140.19 SCHREIBER3141.07 -3141.07 I3141.07 do3141.23 wanna3141.39 clarify.3141.71 So,3142.19 there's3142.99 no3143.47 parking3143.79 on3144.19 the3144.35 north3145.31 side3145.55 of3145.79 the3146.43 street,3146.59 and3147.15 there's3147.39 one3149.47 hour3149.71 parking3150.03 signs3150.59 currently3151.07 on3151.88 the3152.03 south3152.19 side3152.43 for3152.84 at3153.07 least3153.23 the3153.55 first3153.88 block,3154.59 but3155.23 it3155.55 the3155.71 block3155.88 is3156.11 a3156.28 very,3156.43 very3156.59 long3156.84 block.3157.07 I3157.95 don't3158.19 believe3158.51 there's3158.76 meters3159.07 at3159.55 in3159.88 the3160.03 segment3160.19 of3160.67 Galen3161.16 Street.3161.47 There3162.03 are3162.19 no3162.36 That's3163.16 correct.3163.32 The3164.12 meters3164.36 are3164.76 further3164.92 actually,3166.12 there's3166.44 no3166.6 meters3166.84 on3167.16 Galen3167.64 Street.3167.96 3168.92 FERRIS3168.92 -3168.92 No3168.92 meters.3169.16 3170.04 SCHREIBER3170.04 -3170.04 Just3170.04 it's3170.36 just,3170.6 on-street3171.88 parking.3172.12 23172.6 hour,3172.84 but3175 not3175.24 regulated.3175.4 3175.96 BAKER3175.96 -3175.96 Okay.3175.96 What3177.61 I3177.78 wanted3178.57 to3178.89 ask,3178.97 I'm3180.82 trying3181.05 to3181.17 think3181.3 counsel3181.54 Brown.3181.86 The3182.89 reasonableness3183.14 of,3184.34 in3185.14 your3185.38 letter,3186.02 responding3187.93 to3188.41 condition3190.08 113190.48 a,3190.96 talking3191.36 about3191.6 how3191.84 it3192 was3192.16 unreasonable3192.4 to3193.04 prohibit3193.2 staff3193.68 from3193.92 parking3194.08 in3194.4 the3194.56 neighborhood.3194.64 I3195.68 wanted3195.76 to3196.08 understand3196.24 what3197.04 was3197.28 the3197.6 assumption3197.76 of3198.24 available3198.4 parking3198.88 in3199.2 the3199.36 neighborhood3199.52 for3199.92 up3200.08 to3200.24 133200.4 staff.3200.8 And3202.16 then3202.4 a3203.2 follow-up3203.68 question.3203.84 What3205.63 does3205.86 the3206.11 zoning3206.26 require3206.66 for3207.39 other3207.63 businesses?3207.86 What3208.34 would3208.51 be3208.66 the3208.82 relevant3209.7 number3210.11 of3210.43 spaces3210.51 required3211.55 for3211.95 other3212.18 uses?3212.43 And3212.82 so3212.98 when3213.22 you3213.39 have3213.46 an3213.63 intensity3213.78 of3214.26 use,3214.51 it's3214.74 increasing.3215.39 Just3216.98 responding3217.3 to3217.7 why3217.86 it3218.03 would3218.11 be3218.26 unreasonable3218.43 to3219.64 ask,3219.88 the3220.52 local3220.68 business3221 to3221.32 provide3221.56 that3221.96 parking3222.2 for3222.52 their3222.68 staff.3222.84 3224.6 BROWN3224.6 -3224.6 Well,3224.6 first3224.84 of3225 all,3225.08 you3225.24 have3225.4 to3225.48 remember3225.56 that3225.88 this3226.12 is3226.4 a3226.68 Dover3227.64 Amendment,3228.12 case,3229.64 and3230.2 so3230.52 there3231.58 are3231.74 regulations3231.97 that3232.7 are3233.02 applicable3233.18 to3233.66 other3233.82 businesses3234.06 that3234.7 are3234.93 not3235.1 applicable3235.41 to3236.62 daycares.3237.02 The3238.3 point3238.54 that3238.7 we3238.86 were3239.02 making3239.26 is3239.74 that3239.97 it's3240.22 a3240.62 public3240.78 parking3241.26 street,3241.74 and3242.78 to3243.41 ask3243.66 staff3244.91 not3245.39 to3245.79 park3245.95 on3246.35 a3246.59 public3246.83 parking3247.23 street3247.79 would3248.59 be3248.67 to3248.83 single3249.07 out,3249.47 first3251.23 half3251.55 for3252.51 its,3252.91 for3254.27 the3254.51 fact3254.67 that3254.91 it's3254.99 a3255.23 daycare.3255.31 And3256.51 we3256.67 think3256.83 that3256.99 that3257.23 in3257.47 and3257.71 of3257.87 itself3257.95 is3258.35 unreasonable.3258.59 3260.84 BAKER3260.84 -3260.84 Okay.3260.84 Thank3261.32 you.3261.55 I'd3262.43 would3262.91 back3263.07 up3263.39 to3263.64 the3263.72 larger3265.32 point3266.51 of,3266.59 if3267.32 there's3267.47 limited3267.8 1-hour3268.36 parking3268.68 on3268.99 that3269.16 street,3269.47 that3269.8 would3269.95 be3270.03 problematic3270.2 for3270.84 staff3271.07 to3271.32 park3271.55 there,3271.8 for3272.76 an3272.91 entire3273.16 day.3273.55 And3274.51 so3274.75 understanding3275.07 that3275.47 there3275.71 aren't3275.95 really3276.19 public3276.83 parking3277.23 facilities3277.71 for3278.19 the3278.35 duration3278.51 of3279.23 staff's,3279.55 work3281.15 day.3281.47 That3282.83 getting3283.07 to3283.39 that3283.47 larger3283.63 point3284.03 of3284.27 requiring,3284.51 parking3285.79 from3286.27 the3286.67 owner,3287.79 doesn't3289.84 constitute3290.23 I'm3290.88 having3291.11 a3291.36 hard3291.43 time3291.59 understanding3291.84 of3292.23 how3292.32 that3292.47 would3292.64 be3292.71 unreasonable3292.95 even3293.59 in3293.76 light3293.91 of3294.15 the3294.23 Dover3294.39 Amendment,3294.71 which3295.11 says3295.43 that3295.76 parking3295.99 can3296.32 be,3296.55 regulated.3297.43 3298.8 BROWN3298.8 -3298.8 Well,3298.8 staff3299.11 could3299.43 decide3299.59 to3299.91 park3300.07 elsewhere.3300.47 They3301.63 don't3301.79 have3301.95 to3302.19 park3302.35 on3302.67 the3302.75 street3302.91 right3303.31 there.3303.39 And3304.19 so3304.43 to3304.67 say3304.83 that3304.99 you3305.23 can't3305.39 you3305.87 can't3306.19 park3306.43 on3306.75 that3306.83 street3307.07 ever,3307.47 I3308.75 think3308.91 is3309.07 unreasonable.3309.31 3311.07 BAKER3311.07 -3311.07 K.3311.07 Thank3311.31 you.3311.47 Follow-up3314.55 question,3315.11 I3315.74 think3315.82 this3315.99 is3316.14 for3316.22 you3316.47 and3316.7 then3316.95 also3317.11 for,3317.43 counsel,3321.34 Smirage.3323.27 Is3323.27 traffic3323.59 management3324.14 incorporated3324.86 under3325.51 parking,3325.91 under3327.03 the3327.35 Dover3327.51 Amendment,3327.83 in3329.11 your3329.27 opinion?3329.51 Or3329.99 is3330.23 traffic3330.47 management,3331.03 a3332.39 separate3332.63 and,3333.35 unreasonable3334.79 or3335.51 unallowable3336.15 condition3337.11 for,3337.59 to3338.15 put3338.31 into3338.47 a3338.71 Dover3338.87 Amendment3339.11 use?3339.51

3346.33 SPEAKER63346.33 -3346.33 Who3346.33 would3346.49 you3346.72 like3346.81 to3346.97 respond3347.13 first?3347.53

3347.77 SPEAKER113347.77 -3347.77 Oh,3347.77 yeah.3348.09 For3348.33 to3348.49 you3348.64 first,3348.72 please,3348.97 councilor3349.2 Brown.3349.61 Thank3350.01 you.3350.16 BROWN3351.93 -3351.93 There's3351.93 traffic3352.24 manage3352.64 ongoing3353.13 traffic3353.53 management3353.93 and3354.49 ongoing3354.72 modifications3355.76 to3356.48 a3356.64 traffic3356.8 plan,3357.28 we3357.68 think3357.92 is3358.16 unreasonable3358.64 because3359.36 it3359.68 continually3360 puts3361.36 the3363.12 daycare3363.84 at3364.32 risk3364.56 that3365.12 the3365.92 town3366.08 will3366.4 pull3366.56 its3366.88 ability3367.88 to3368.28 operate.3368.51 3369.24 BAKER3369.24 -3369.24 Yeah.3369.24 Thank3369.39 you.3369.64 I3369.8 think3369.88 my3370.11 specific3370.28 question3370.68 was,3371.07 is3371.39 traffic3371.64 management3372.2 a3373.64 permissible3373.8 regulation3374.68 under3375.55 the3376.28 Dover3376.43 Amendment?3376.84 Would3377.88 the3378.28 language3378.76 says3379.24 parking.3379.47 Is3380.75 it3380.91 your3380.99 opinion3381.15 that3381.47 traffic3381.71 management3382.03 is3382.75 incorporated3382.99 under3383.55 parking?3383.79 BROWN3386.91 -3386.91 I3386.91 think3387.15 it3387.39 depends3387.55 on3387.95 what3388.11 the3388.35 traffic3388.51 management3388.91 is.3389.39 Obviously,3389.71 parking3390.27 is3390.75 part3390.99 of3391.31 traffic3391.47 management.3392.03 If3393.07 you're3393.31 talking3393.63 about,3393.95 you3395.55 know,3395.7 parking3395.95 and3396.51 other3396.82 things,3397.14 then3397.86 I'd3398.99 say3399.22 it's3400.03 not.3400.26 What3400.82 you3400.99 have3401.22 to3401.39 focus3401.47 on3401.78 are3402.03 the3402.18 number3402.34 of3402.59 parking3402.82 spaces3403.22 and3404.66 whether3404.99 or3405.47 not3405.55 there3406.11 is3406.34 adequate3406.59 parking3407.14 for3407.63 the3407.86 particular3408.11 use.3409.37 And3409.65 that's3409.93 one3410.17 of3410.33 the3410.49 reasons3410.57 why3410.97 I3411.93 invite3412.17 the3412.81 board3413.13 to3413.53 come3413.69 out3413.85 and3414.17 actually3414.41 take3414.97 a3415.29 view.3415.53 Much3416.89 of3417.21 what3417.29 has3417.53 been3417.69 said3417.93 tonight3418.25 has3418.73 been,3419.05 it's3421.13 what3422.41 people3422.66 were3423.14 projecting3423.45 would3424.49 occur3424.82 before3425.38 the3425.78 permits3426.02 were3426.41 granted3426.82 and3427.3 before3427.45 First3428.34 Path3429.14 moved3429.14 into3429.54 the3429.86 space.3430.02 Now3431.05 that3431.3 First3431.78 Path3432.02 is3432.02 into3432.18 the3432.41 space,3432.57 I3433.3 think3433.45 it3433.61 would3433.78 be3434.02 really3434.18 useful3434.49 for3434.97 the3435.22 board3435.38 to3435.78 actually3436.02 come3436.49 out3436.66 and3436.97 see3437.22 how3438.22 the3438.46 parking3438.54 is3439.02 being3439.26 used3439.5 and3439.9 how,3440.06 pickup3441.02 and3441.42 drop-off3442.14 are3442.38 being3442.54 handled,3442.86 at3443.82 least3443.98 before3444.3 making3444.78 a3445.02 decision.3445.18 BAKER3448.06 -3448.06 And3448.06 then3448.3 counsel3449.02 Smirage,3449.34 and3449.34 I3449.5 apologize3449.66 if3450.14 I'm3450.3 mispronouncing3450.54 your3451.26 name,3451.42 is3452.05 it3452.21 also3452.3 your3452.69 opinion3452.93 that3453.41 and3453.82 what3454.05 I'm3454.21 getting3454.38 into3454.61 is3454.93 what's3455.01 the3455.26 purview3455.41 of3455.82 this3455.97 board3456.21 here3456.45 but3456.86 is3457.18 it3457.34 your3457.49 opinion3457.73 that3458.38 conditions3459.01 related3459.57 to3459.97 traffic3460.14 management,3460.53 are3461.57 permissible,3462.38 for3463.82 a3464.3 use3464.45 that's3464.78 under3464.93 the3465.18 diver3465.34 amendment?3465.57 SMERAGE3469.71 -3469.71 First3469.71 of3469.95 all,3470.03 you3470.35 are3470.67 pronouncing3470.91 my3471.23 name3471.39 correctly.3471.55 So,3472.51 kudos.3473.31 It's3475.15 not3475.47 an3475.63 easy3475.79 name3476.03 to3476.19 necessarily3476.35 pronounce.3476.75 I3478.35 have3478.51 not3478.75 looked3479.07 specifically3479.39 at3480.03 traffic3480.27 management,3480.75 quote,3481.55 unquote,3481.79 and3482.72 whether3483.05 that3483.36 is,3483.76 an3485.28 extension3485.53 of3486.16 parking3486.8 as3487.68 the3487.93 word3488.48 is3488.72 used3489.05 in3489.44 section3489.76 3.3490.24 However,3491.53 I3492.8 would3494.01 suggest3494.96 that3495.44 the3495.61 board3495.76 consider,3496.24 to3497.58 be3497.74 some3497.82 element3498.3 of3498.62 site3498.86 circulation3499.1 as3499.98 a3500.22 component3500.38 of3500.86 parking.3501.02 Obviously,3501.9 you3502.3 need,3502.46 to3503.34 consider3503.5 how,3504.06 vehicles3505.1 are3505.5 getting3505.74 in3506.06 and3506.3 out3506.54 of3506.78 the3506.94 parking,3507.18 that3508.62 is3508.86 being3509.18 reasonably3509.9 regulated.3510.46 I'm3516.84 done3517.07 for3517.23 my3517.39 questions3517.47 for3517.8 now.3517.88 But3518.19 thank3518.36 you3518.59 very3518.68 much.3518.84

3519.32 Yeah.3519.32 Member3520.84 Odomo?3521.16 3523.23 ODAMAH3523.23 -3523.23 Thank3523.23 you,3523.55 Mr.3524.11 Chair.3524.91 I3524.91 hope3525.07 you3525.23 can3525.32 hear3525.47 me.3525.64 I3526.19 have3526.36 a3526.51 question3526.59 for,3527.07 mister3527.88 Brown3528.28 about3530.03 the3530.35 former3530.59 site.3530.91 The3531.15 boys3531.31 and3531.55 girls3531.71 club3532.03 was,3532.27 I3532.91 guess,3533.15 where3533.63 the3534.35 question3534.51 is3534.75 where3534.91 was3535.07 parking3535.31 then?3535.79 Where3536.03 were3536.27 staff3536.43 asked3536.75 to3536.99 park3537.15 at3537.55 the3537.71 or3538.19 where3538.43 did3538.67 staff3538.99 park3539.39 when3540.03 they3540.27 were3540.43 at3540.83 the3540.99 boys3541.15 and3541.55 girls3541.79 club3542.11 if3542.35 they're3542.51 not3542.75 still3542.99 there?3543.39 I3543.63 don't3543.71 know.3543.87 3545.64 BROWN3545.64 -3545.64 I3545.64 honestly3545.88 don't3546.28 know3546.51 because3546.84 I3547.64 was3547.8 not3548.11 part3548.36 of3548.59 that.3548.76 Max3550.76 could3551.15 answer3551.32 that3551.64 question.3551.8 ODAMAH3552.91 -3552.91 K.3552.91 I'll3554.67 hold3554.84 and3555.07 ask3555.15 my3555.39 next3555.55 question.3555.8 And3556.67 similar3556.99 to3557.32 that,3557.47 now3557.71 in3557.88 the3558.03 new3558.19 site,3558.43 are3559.43 there3559.59 guidance,3559.99 instructions,3560.79 suggestions,3562.07 advice3562.71 on3563.11 where3563.35 the3563.83 staff3564.71 should3565.11 park,3565.43 in3567.43 the3567.59 area3568.07 there,3568.47 or3568.95 is3569.19 it3569.35 just3569.51 up3569.83 to3569.99 them?3570.07 3572.03 BROWN3572.03 -3572.03 Again,3572.03 I3572.26 think3572.42 that3572.59 that3572.74 is3572.91 a3573.14 question3573.22 that's3573.63 best3574.18 answered3574.59 by3575.14 Max.3575.7 3578.42 ODAMAH3578.42 -3578.42 Okay.3578.42 I3579.14 think3579.22 I3579.39 was3579.55 just3579.7 holding.3579.86 Keep3580.18 us3580.42 going.3580.74 3581.14 FERRIS3581.14 -3581.14 Great.3581.14 Thank3581.46 you.3581.63 Thank3581.94 you.3582.11 Member3583.55 Dale?3583.86 3584.11 BROWN-3584.11 And3584.11 I3584.34 apologize.3584.82 I3585.46 don't3585.55 wanna3585.78 sound3586.43 like3586.75 I'm3586.83 brushing3586.99 you3587.39 off3587.55 or3587.71 anything,3587.87 but3588.19 I3588.35 wanna3588.51 be3588.83 factually3588.99 correct,3589.55 and3589.95 I3590.19 don't3590.43 wanna3590.67 give3590.91 you3591.07 inaccurate3591.39 information.3591.95 3593.07 ODAMAH3593.07 -3593.07 Thank3593.07 you.3593.31 Thank3594.03 you.3594.27

3594.83 SPEAKER33594.83 -3594.83 Member3594.83 Dale?3595.31 3596.03 DALE3596.03 -3596.03 Yeah.3596.03 I3596.27 can3596.43 comment3596.67 a3596.99 little3597.07 bit3597.31 on3597.47 those.3597.63 It3598.11 is3598.27 no3598.75 longer3598.83 at3599.07 the3599.23 Boys3599.31 and3599.55 Girls3599.71 Club.3599.87 Bottom3600.31 of3600.55 the3600.59 boys3600.63 and3600.7 Girls3601.11 Club3601.27 is3601.27 currently3601.43 construction.3601.74 The3604.31 boys3604.39 the3604.63 bottom3604.7 of3604.86 the3604.95 girls3605.11 boys3605.43 and3605.59 girls3605.74 club3605.91 is3606.14 currently3606.22 a3606.55 construction3606.63 site.3607.03 I3607.18 walked3607.27 by3607.51 it3607.74 on3607.83 the3607.99 way3608.07 here.3608.14 And3609.18 but3609.51 there3609.74 is3609.91 a3609.99 large3610.14 parking3610.39 lot3610.7 right3610.95 outside3611.18 of3611.51 that3611.66 that3612.22 I3612.39 don't3613.03 know3613.27 for3613.35 sure.3613.59 I3613.83 would3613.91 be3614.07 curious3614.15 about3614.87 Max's3615.11 comments3615.59 there,3615.91 but3616.15 I3616.31 believe3616.39 that3616.71 some3617.03 staff3617.27 could3617.51 park3617.67 there.3617.83 I3617.99 know3618.07 that3618.23 many3618.31 cars3618.55 use3618.87 that3619.03 for,3619.27 pick3620.31 up3620.55 and3620.71 drop3620.87 off.3621.03 I'm3623.19 curious3623.43 as3624.15 a3624.39 staff3624.95 question,3625.35 on3625.99 two3626.39 different3626.55 pieces3626.87 on3627.19 how3627.8 some3628.13 of3628.28 these3628.45 would3628.68 normally3628.93 work,3629.32 getting3630.05 at3630.36 some3630.61 of3630.77 the3630.93 underlying3631.09 questions3631.64 that3632.05 the3632.2 petitioners3632.28 have3632.77 raised.3632.93 For3633.89 building3634.13 permits3634.53 that3635.01 come3635.24 out3635.41 of,3635.57 site3637.01 plan3637.24 review,3637.49 with3638.13 zoning3638.28 conditions,3638.68 how3640.05 are3640.21 those3640.29 conditions3640.53 normally3640.93 incorporated3641.33 into3641.89 a3642.21 building3642.29 permit3642.61 or3642.93 referenced3643.09 in3643.49 a3643.57 building3643.73 permit?3643.97 3645.49 SCHREIBER3645.49 -3645.49 They3645.49 so3645.89 and3646.53 we3646.85 have,3647.09 Tony3647.57 Mancini3647.81 on3648.37 as3649.17 well,3649.33 but3649.65 I3649.81 can3649.89 speak3650.13 to3650.29 this3650.45 briefly.3650.69 So3651.89 for3652.29 all3652.53 building3652.77 permits3653.09 that3653.99 have3654.32 any,3654.64 change3655.36 in3655.59 use3655.76 or3655.99 exterior3656.16 changes,3656.72 Tony3657.59 Mancini3657.84 does3658.39 a3658.55 review,3658.72 and,3659.28 the3659.91 building3660.07 permit3660.39 gets3660.64 submitted3661.28 and3662.07 sits3662.32 there3662.55 until3662.95 the3663.43 zoning3663.68 enforcement3664.16 officer3664.72 reviews3665.03 it3665.43 for3665.76 compliance3665.99 with3666.39 zoning.3666.64 If3667.17 he3669.09 does3669.41 put3669.73 it3669.73 on3669.81 hold3669.97 because3670.13 he3670.37 needs3670.53 more3670.77 information3671.01 Yeah.3671.65 Then3672.37 it3672.61 would3672.77 not3673.01 move3674.05 on3674.29 to3674.53 the3674.61 next3674.77 step.3675.09 DALE3676.13 -3676.13 I3676.13 guess3676.21 I'm3676.69 thinking3676.85 more3677.17 3677.57 SCHREIBER3677.57 -3677.57 The3677.57 building3677.57 permit3677.57 itself3677.89 gets3678.21 issued3678.45 as3678.93 a3679.09 building3679.25 permit.3679.57 And3679.89 so3680.13 it's3680.69 reference3682.01 it's3682.32 for3682.57 building3682.72 code,3683.13 and3683.53 it's3683.76 it's3684.09 a3684.32 permit3684.48 to3684.8 build.3684.89 3685.92 DALE3685.92 -3685.92 Right.3685.92 I3686.09 guess3686.16 my3686.41 question3686.48 is,3686.72 like,3686.89 that3687.05 is3687.13 the3687.28 thing3687.36 that3687.53 has3687.68 to3687.84 be3687.92 posted3688.01 on3688.41 a3688.57 site.3688.64 And3689.44 so3689.61 from3689.84 a3690.09 public3690.16 perspective,3690.48 if3691.05 it's3691.2 posted3691.36 on3691.68 a3691.76 site,3691.84 how3692.09 does3692.16 the3692.32 public3692.48 know3692.89 that3692.96 this3693.2 building3693.44 is3693.84 subject3693.92 to3694.24 certain3694.48 conditions3694.8 or3695.28 other3695.44 pieces?3695.68 Or3696.01 is3696.16 that3696.24 something3696.82 they3697.06 would3697.14 have3697.3 to3697.46 look3697.54 up3697.78 as3697.86 part3698.02 of3698.18 the3698.42 property's,3698.5 permitting3699.78 history?3700.18 3701.86 SCHREIBER3701.86 -3701.86 It's3701.86 separate.3702.5 Anything3703.94 that3704.34 requires3704.58 zoning3705.22 relief,3706.58 is3707.38 our3707.38 public3707.62 notices,3708.02 and3708.66 we3708.82 don't3708.98 have3709.22 anything3709.38 posted3709.78 on3710.1 the3710.26 site.3710.34 DALE3710.82 -3710.82 Okay.3710.82 I3712.49 don't3712.49 know3712.57 if3712.69 that3712.97 question3713.22 of,3713.45 like,3713.61 does3713.86 this3714.02 include3714.18 it3714.49 or3714.57 not?3714.74 I3714.89 think3715.14 I3715.3 assume3715.45 it3715.78 does3715.93 because3716.18 otherwise3716.97 it3717.3 wouldn't3717.45 have3717.78 been3717.86 able3717.93 to3718.18 pass3718.26 the3718.57 SCHREIBER3719.7 -3719.7 A3719.7 building3719.78 permit3720.02 wouldn't3720.49 be3720.82 issued3720.97 if3721.61 there3722.49 is3722.66 it3724.96 wouldn't3725.12 be3725.36 issued3725.52 because3725.84 it3726.08 wouldn't3726.24 make3726.56 it3726.72 to3726.88 that3726.96 stage.3727.52 Until3727.76 it3728.08 gets,3728.16 if3728.88 it3729.04 requires3729.28 a3730.08 board3730.24 review,3730.56 it3730.88 gets3731.04 put3731.28 on3731.52 it's3732.08 considered3732.48 put3733.68 on3733.84 hold.3734.08 If3734.32 someone3734.48 submits3734.8 a3735.12 building3735.2 permit,3735.52 it3735.84 just3736 waits3736.24 there.3736.56 It3737.84 gets3738.32 put3738.55 on3738.8 hold.3738.95 And,3739.28 Tony,3739.51 I3739.84 don't3739.91 know3739.99 if3740.16 I'm3740.23 using3740.39 the3740.64 right3740.72 word3740.88 until,3741.68 the3742.72 permit3742.8 granting3743.11 authority3743.51 provides3744.07 the3744.55 needed3745.36 relief3745.76 to3746.32 move3746.47 forward3746.72 with3747.11 what3747.43 was3747.59 requested3747.84 before3748.72 they3748.95 make3749.11 changes3749.28 to3749.68 the3749.76 building3749.91 permit3750.23 so3750.55 that3750.8 it3750.95 is,3751.31 allowed3752.43 to3752.75 move3752.83 forward3753.07 because3753.79 it3754.03 is3754.19 compliant3754.43 with3754.75 zoning,3754.91 based3755.63 and3755.95 then3756.35 there's3756.99 material3757.87 submitted3758.35 to3758.59 the3758.75 zoning3758.83 enforcement3759.15 officer3759.47 to3759.79 show3759.95 that,3760.11 and3760.59 it's3760.75 just3761.31 documentation3761.55 with3762.35 the3762.51 building3762.75 permit.3762.99 And,3764.32 Tony,3764.48 I3764.8 don't3764.89 see3765.36 3765.61 DALE3765.61 -3765.61 Tony,3765.61 do3766.01 you3766.16 wanna3766.24 add3766.57 anything3766.72 to3767.28 Gideon's3767.45 explanation?3767.76 3769.05 TONY3769.05 MANCINI3769.05 -3769.05 CITY3769.05 OF3769.05 WATERTOWN3769.05 -3769.05 So3769.05 majority3769.53 of3770.01 the3770.64 time3770.89 I3771.2 do3771.45 actually3771.76 look3772.09 at3772.32 building3772.41 permits,3772.8 if3773.2 those3773.45 building3773.76 permits3774.16 go3775.28 along3775.45 with3775.84 any3776.32 form3776.72 of3777.05 an3777.13 appeal3777.36 or3777.76 approval3777.93 or3778.32 anything3778.48 like3778.89 that,3779.05 I3780.06 make3780.3 sure3780.46 that3780.7 all3780.78 the3781.02 conditions3781.1 are3781.5 met.3781.66 That's3781.9 one3782.14 of3782.38 the3782.46 things3782.54 I3782.86 do3783.02 look3783.18 at.3783.34 And3784.14 that3786.22 could3786.46 be3786.62 various3787.74 different3788.06 things.3788.38 It3788.62 could3788.78 be3788.94 that3789.1 the3789.26 actual3789.42 decision3790.46 was3791.02 stamped.3791.26 Could3793.78 be3793.93 that3794.1 if3794.34 we3794.58 requested3794.82 updated3795.3 plans3795.93 that3796.26 we3796.41 have3796.58 them3796.74 and3798.1 go3798.41 from3798.58 there.3798.74 If3799.06 everything3799.14 is3799.54 good,3799.7 I3800.1 sign3800.34 off3800.58 and3800.74 it3800.89 moves3801.06 on3801.38 for3801.61 an3801.78 actual,3802.02 building3803.38 review3803.78 by3804.18 the3804.34 building3804.49 inspectors3805.45 or3806.1 the3806.34 building3806.41 commissioner.3806.74 DALE3807.88 -3807.88 Great.3807.88 Okay.3809.8 That3810.36 answers3810.6 that3810.92 piece.3811.24 Other3811.88 aspects,3812.36 all3813.24 of3813.48 the3813.56 conditions3813.72 here3814.12 are3814.36 I'm3814.6 used3814.84 to3815.08 seeing3815.24 these3815.64 types3815.96 of3816.2 pieces3816.36 on3816.68 landscaping3816.92 and3817.48 and3817.64 lighting3817.88 and3818.2 other3818.36 pieces3818.52 to3819.24 the3819.48 petitioner's3819.72 questions3820.36 on3820.84 appropriateness3821.64 there.3822.44 For3823.94 other3824.26 Dover3824.66 amendment-protected3825.46 uses3825.86 in3826.26 the3826.43 city,3826.74 I3826.98 don't3827.14 know3827.3 when3827.39 the3827.55 last3827.63 13827.86 of3828.03 those3828.18 that3828.43 came3828.59 before3828.82 site3829.78 plan3830.03 review3830.34 was,3830.74 and3831.22 whether,3831.63 this3833.22 set3833.46 type3833.7 of3833.86 amendments3834.03 have3834.34 been3834.51 were3834.82 included3834.91 or3835.3 not3835.46 in3835.63 those3835.78 cases.3835.94 Can3837.41 you3837.57 comment3837.73 to3838.05 any3838.13 of3838.29 that3838.37 history?3838.53 I3838.85 know3838.93 it's3839.01 a3839.41 kind3839.57 of3839.73 unexpected3840.85 question3841.25 perhaps.3841.65 3842.53 SCHREIBER3842.53 -3842.53 But3842.53 yeah.3843.73 Yeah.3844.13 We3844.45 have3844.61 a3844.85 number3845.25 of3845.57 Dover-related,3846.37 site3847.17 plan3847.33 review3847.65 only,3847.97 views,3848.93 and3849.25 approvals,3849.41 and3850.45 it3850.7 certainly3850.86 depends3851.41 on3851.82 the3851.97 context.3852.06 I3854.38 think3854.54 the3854.78 key3855.02 is3855.18 that3855.41 the3855.97 list3857.09 of3857.34 conditions,3857.58 it's3858.61 documenting3859.89 what3861.41 has3861.66 been3861.89 submitted.3862.93 And3863.69 is3864.01 part3864.09 of3864.41 the3864.49 record3864.65 for,3865.45 the3866.33 project3866.49 to3866.81 move3866.89 forward.3867.13 And3867.69 so3867.85 you3868.57 know,3868.73 they're3869.77 conditions,3870.65 but3871.21 not3871.37 conditions3871.61 that3872.17 were3872.41 mandated3872.65 as3873.61 a3873.85 condition3874.01 of3874.49 the3874.57 board.3874.73 It3875.05 was3875.13 something3875.45 that3875.85 some3877.28 conditions3877.51 are3877.99 because3878.32 they've3878.55 provided3878.95 it.3879.51 And3881.43 other3881.76 conditions,3882.07 which3882.47 are3882.71 the3882.88 specific3883.03 ones3883.51 that3883.84 have,3884.16 additional3885.43 requirements3885.91 for3887.03 this3887.28 have3887.68 focused3888.16 on-site3888.55 circulation,3889.11 the3890.98 open3891.02 space3891.42 on3892.06 the3892.3 site,3892.38 etcetera.3893.34 3894.14 DALE3894.14 -3894.14 Yeah.3894.14 Okay.3895.1 3895.58 SCHREIBER3895.58 -3895.58 And3895.58 the3895.82 other3895.98 ones3896.14 have3896.46 not3897.58 requested,3897.98 less3900.38 parking3900.86 than3901.26 required.3902.3 But3902.99 have3903.14 requested3903.39 a3904.18 building3904.35 closer3904.66 to3904.99 the3905.14 property3905.31 line.3905.55 So3905.79 there's3906.35 a3906.59 difference.3906.83 Every3908.27 single3908.51 site3908.74 plan3908.99 is3909.22 different,3909.39 and,3909.79 and3910.91 it's3911.14 in3911.47 different3911.63 zones.3911.95 DALE3912.59 -3912.59 Yep.3912.59 No.3913.39 I3913.55 can3914.03 imagine3914.18 many3914.51 different3914.66 situations3914.91 with3915.22 lots3915.39 of3915.63 different3915.7 conditions,3915.95 and3916.18 certainly3916.43 reading3916.74 over3916.99 these,3917.22 I3917.69 think3917.85 that3918.01 they3918.25 are3918.65 mostly3919.05 referencing3920.09 what3920.49 already3920.65 exists3920.97 and3921.37 normal3921.69 conditions3922.01 about3922.49 there3923.21 should3923.45 be3923.61 solid3923.77 waste3924.09 pickup3924.33 as3924.73 at3925.13 any,3925.61 property3926.33 use?3926.73 One3927.77 final3928.01 question.3929.29 The3930.47 number3930.71 here3931.03 in3931.43 condition3931.99 113932.47 b3934.07 on3935.11 off-site3935.43 parking3935.76 for3936.07 up3936.23 to3936.32 243936.47 vehicles,3936.88 I'm3937.59 curious3937.84 where3938.23 that3938.47 number3938.71 came3939.11 from.3939.36 I3940.16 find3940.32 it3940.47 in3940.55 the3940.71 parking3940.88 in3941.28 the3941.43 planning3941.51 board's3941.91 meeting3942.23 minutes3942.55 that3943.28 that3943.52 number3943.68 seems3944.08 to3944.32 have3944.4 come3944.48 in3944.72 from3944.88 the3945.04 planning3945.2 from3945.6 the3945.84 staff3946.08 report,3946.4 I3947.2 think,3947.28 as3947.52 part3947.76 of3947.92 recommended3948.08 conditions.3948.64 Is3949.52 that3949.68 correct?3949.92 3951.6 SCHREIBER3951.6 -3951.6 I3951.6 will3952.48 slightly3953.04 so3954.88 my3955.12 recollection,3955.36 and3955.92 I3956.08 can3956.43 look3956.59 at3956.67 other3956.76 3956.76 DALE3956.76 -3956.76 Certainly.3957.23 I3957.55 haven't3957.64 gone3957.88 back3958.03 and3958.11 looked3958.2 at3958.36 the3958.43 recording.3958.51 3958.99 SCHREIBER3958.99 -3958.99 There3958.99 was3959.72 a,3959.88 they3961.07 suggested3962.51 this3963.55 amount3964.2 of3964.51 parking.3964.59 So3965.39 we3965.55 referenced3966.2 that,3966.59 and3966.84 I3966.99 believe3967.39 we3967.72 spoke3968.2 to3968.51 that3968.59 in3968.91 our3969.39 summary3969.64 here3970.03 Great.3970.36 For3972.73 the3973.13 site.3973.37 So3973.85 that's3974.25 what's3974.49 tricky3974.73 about3975.13 this3975.37 is3975.53 this3975.61 is3976.05 a3976.49 site3976.65 plan3976.89 review3977.13 only3977.53 to3978.65 reuse3978.89 a3979.61 part3979.77 of3979.93 the3980.09 part3980.81 of3980.97 a3981.21 full3982.33 site,3982.57 full3982.89 building,3983.13 and3984.65 so3985.21 that's3986.65 what3986.97 we3987.13 were3988.57 trying3988.72 to3988.89 walk3989.05 this3989.28 line3989.44 of3989.61 allowing3989.76 a3990.16 site3990.32 plan3990.48 review3990.72 only3991.05 for3991.61 just3992.16 this3992.48 use3992.64 while3993.05 there's3993.28 a3993.76 building3994.16 in3994.48 a3994.64 site3994.72 that's3994.96 a3995.61 mix3995.76 3996.09 DALE3996.09 -3996.09 Well,3996.09 they3996.16 could3996.32 have3996.48 other3996.64 uses3996.89 that3997.2 involved3997.36 in3997.68 it3997.76 for3997.92 sure.3998.09 I3998.24 remember3998.4 those3998.96 discussions.3999.13 3999.68 SCHREIBER3999.68 -3999.68 So3999.68 as3999.84 part4000.01 of4000.16 that,4000.32 there4000.4 is4000.57 a,4000.89 you4000.96 know,4001.05 a4001.2 placeholder4001.28 of4001.92 this4002.09 many4002.32 spaces4002.64 for4002.96 the4003.13 whole4003.4 site,4003.64 if4005.24 and4005.48 when4005.72 it4005.88 was4006.04 occupied4006.28 with4006.76 the4007.16 type4007.32 of4007.48 use4007.64 that4007.88 4008.52 DALE4008.52 -4008.52 Sure.4008.52 SCHREIBER4009.32 -4009.32 So4009.32 that4009.56 was4009.72 not4009.88 our4010.12 number.4010.36 We4010.6 were4010.76 referencing4011 it.4011.48 4011.72 DALE4011.72 -4011.72 Yeah.4011.72 Okay.4012.04 No.4012.44 And4012.6 I4012.76 certainly4012.84 remember4013.24 that4013.64 the4013.88 petition4014.12 the4014.6 First4015.24 Path4015.64 Day4015.64 Care4015.8 came4016.04 and4016.28 said4016.44 we4016.68 were4016.76 we4016.92 are4017.08 happy4017.24 to4017.48 provide4017.56 these4017.88 spaces4018.04 at4018.44 this4018.52 garage.4019.23 I4019.55 remember4019.95 that4020.28 as4020.43 well,4020.51 but,4020.67 Mr.4021.15 Sherr.4021.39 One4023.47 final4023.8 detail4024.36 there4024.67 for4024.91 up4025.07 to4025.23 244025.39 is4025.88 the4026.03 was4026.28 the4026.51 intention4026.67 there4026.99 to4027.23 be4027.39 flexible4027.55 in4028.03 the4028.19 number4028.76 that4028.99 was4029.15 required4029.32 just4029.63 to4029.88 make4029.95 sure4030.11 that4030.28 they4030.43 would4030.59 pay4030.84 for4030.99 up4031.23 to4031.32 that4031.47 many4031.71 as4032.28 required?4032.51 4033.72 SCHREIBER4033.72 -4033.72 Very4033.72 good4033.96 question.4034.2 We4034.84 did4035.32 want4036.2 to4036.44 ensure4036.6 that4036.92 there4037.08 was4037.24 flexibility.4037.4 Yeah.4038.12 4038.44 dale4038.44 -4038.44 There's4038.68 a4038.84 note4039 in4039.16 the4039.8 minutes4040.12 on4040.44 Larry's4041 comments.4041.32 4041.88 SCHREIBER4041.88 -4041.88 Spaces.4041.88 So,4042.52 if4043.96 you4044.12 have4044.28 a4044.6 office4044.76 in4045.4 a4045.64 unknown4046.44 use,4047.16 you4048.91 don't4049.07 need4049.23 to4049.47 have4049.55 those4049.71 spaces4049.95 for4050.91 the4051.07 operation4051.15 of4051.55 the4051.71 day4051.8 care.4052.03 4052.43 DALE4052.43 -4052.43 Yep.4052.43 And4053.39 then4053.64 it4053.88 seems4054.03 like4054.36 right4054.51 now,4054.67 there's4054.91 six4055.32 staff4055.55 members4055.8 as4056.19 reference4056.36 in4056.67 some4056.76 of4056.91 the4056.99 materials4057.15 as,4057.55 are4057.95 currently4058.11 driving.4058.51 Maybe4059.32 not4059.64 all4059.8 244059.95 are4060.28 necessary.4060.36 And4060.67 so4060.84 the4060.91 intention4060.99 of4061.23 the4061.32 condition4061.39 was4061.71 to4061.95 allow4062.11 flexibility4062.36 in4062.84 those.4062.99 I4063.5 just4063.66 wanna4063.82 be4064.54 clear4064.7 on4064.94 that.4065.02 Thank4065.82 you4066.06 for4066.22 answering4066.38 my4066.78 very4066.94 detailed4067.26 weird4067.66 questions4067.9 on4068.22 those4068.38 pieces.4068.54 No4069.1 more4069.18 questions4069.34 at4069.66 the4069.74 time,4069.82 Mr.4070.22 Chair.4070.46 4070.46 FERRIS4070.46 -4070.46 Great.4070.46 Thank4070.78 you4070.94 very4071.18 much.4071.34 Actually,4072.46 no,4073.42 Sir.4073.66 You4073.9 cannot4074.06 right4074.46 now.4074.62 We're4074.86 going4075.26 through4075.5 it.4075.82 4076.46 SCHREIBER4076.46 -4076.46 Yeah.4076.46 You4077.74 will4078.7 get4079.02 Please4079.58 don't4079.89 speak4080.14 from4080.38 the4080.54 audience.4080.7 When4081.18 the4081.49 chair4081.74 recognizes4082.22 you,4082.7 you4083.02 can4083.18 call4083.41 up4083.58 to4083.74 the4083.82 put4084.14 podium.4084.54 Sorry.4085.02

4085.41 SPEAKER14085.41 -4085.41 We'll4085.41 give4085.58 you4085.74 the4085.89 opportunity4085.97 to4086.45 speak4086.61 in4086.93 a4087.1 little4087.18 bit,4087.34 but4087.49 we're4087.66 gonna4087.89 continue4088.14 with4088.54 our4088.78 comments4089.02 here,4089.41 sir.4089.66

4092.62 Member4092.62 Gerard,4093.02 any4094.22 questions,4094.62 comments?4095.1

4096.78 SPEAKER54096.78 -4096.78 None4096.78 at4097.1 this4097.26 time.4097.42 Great.4098.3 SCHREIBER4099.1 -4099.1 Sir,4099.1 if4099.34 you4099.5 wanna4099.58 get4099.82 up,4099.98 then4100.06 again,4100.22 I'm4100.38 gonna4100.54 ask4100.78 you4100.94 to4101.1 be4101.18 brief.4101.42

4106.06 SPEAKER84106.06 -4106.06 We4106.06 did4106.38 not4106.61 volunteer4107.1 244108.78 244109.26 parking4109.74 spaces.4110.06

4110.7 SPEAKER54110.7 -4110.7 Can4110.7 you4110.94 speak4111.1 up,4111.26 please?4111.41 BOLYASNYY4111.98 -4111.98 We4111.98 did4112.14 not4112.3 volunteer4112.61 244113.34 parking4113.98 spaces.4114.3 It4114.78 was4114.94 not4115.18 our4115.49 idea.4115.82 Do4116.38 I4116.53 need4116.7 to4116.94 produce4117.02 emails,4118.73 memos4120.01 with4120.65 handwriting4120.97 of4121.93 the4122.17 certain4122.33 staff4122.65 members?4122.89 Or4124.17 the4125.69 Indian4125.85 will4126.09 acknowledge4126.33 what4127.21 happened4127.45 at4127.77 that4127.93 meeting,4128.17 what4129.37 kind4129.61 of4129.85 hand4130.09 twisting4130.41 took4131.05 place,4131.29 first4133.07 of4133.31 all.4133.48 Second4133.72 of4133.95 all,4134.11 so4135.07 I'll4135.31 just4135.4 comment4135.8 about,4136.28 you4137.07 know,4137.4 conditions4137.88 in4138.35 different4138.76 door4139.31 amendment4139.64 project.4140.2 Well,4140.6 the4140.76 last4140.91 door4141.24 amendment4141.31 project4141.72 the4142.11 city4142.28 handled4142.91 was4143.64 the4143.88 construction4143.95 of4144.6 the4144.76 field4144.91 and4146.35 it4146.43 is4146.67 a4146.75 public4146.83 matter4147.23 of4147.71 record.4147.79 And4148.67 back4148.91 then,4149.07 a4150.43 board4150.59 member,4150.91 a4151.63 Planning4151.87 Board4151.87 member4151.87 asked4152.27 that4154.03 only4154.27 for4154.59 the4154.83 city.4154.99 And4157.23 also4157.39 question4157.71 was4158.03 for4158.27 Mr.4158.43 Magoon.4158.83 4159.86 What's4159.86 going4159.95 to4160.27 happen4160.35 if4160.82 we're4160.99 going4161.06 to4161.39 not4163.23 agree4163.55 to4165.39 all4165.55 these4165.78 conditions,4166.66 which4167.78 basically4168.27 if4169.23 you4169.39 review4169.55 the4170.19 conditions4170.35 which4171.06 impose4171.31 on4171.7 us4171.86 is4172.51 the4172.66 conditions4172.82 and4173.91 I'm4174.03 referring4174.15 condition4174.63 outside4175.03 of4175.43 number4175.67 11,4176.15 also4176.71 landscaping4176.95 and4177.59 things4177.67 like4177.91 that.4178.07 These4178.87 are4179.11 conditions4179.19 which4179.75 were4179.91 imposed4180.15 by4180.55 by4180.79 us.4181.03 It's4181.43 very,4181.67 very4181.91 similar.4182.15 The4183.27 response4183.43 for4183.91 the4184.07 city's4184.23 attorney4184.63 was4185.51 that4185.75 if4185.99 this4187.45 matter4187.69 is4187.94 taken4188.02 by4189.38 the4189.69 applicant4189.94 to4190.41 the4190.49 court,4190.65 the4191.38 court4191.53 will4191.94 find4192.18 these4192.81 conditions4194.98 to4195.85 be4196.02 illegal.4196.57 This4198.26 was4198.49 opinion4198.98 of4199.61 the4199.69 city's4199.85 council.4200.26 I4201.65 don't4201.81 think4201.89 Missus4202.37 Maric4202.77 is4203.09 in4203.25 position4203.41 to4203.97 contradict4204.13 that.4204.77 It4205.81 is4205.97 on4206.21 record.4206.37 It4207.01 was4207.17 opinion4207.41 of4207.73 Mr.4207.97 Magoon.4208.21 It4208.77 was4208.93 opinion4209.17 of4209.73 the4209.89 legal4210.05 advisers4210.53 for4211.01 the4211.17 city.4211.33 It4212.53 would4212.69 be4212.85 in4213.01 a4213.09 bad4213.25 phase4213.49 not4214.37 to4214.61 remove4214.77 these4215.09 conditions.4215.33 Thank4216.57 you.4216.82 FERRIS4217.53 -4217.53 Thanks,4217.53 Sir.4217.85 Alright.4219.06 So4220.26 then,4220.57 moving4221.7 on.4222.1 Any4224.57 other4224.82 members4224.98 of4225.3 the4225.38 public?4225.53 Any4226.1 other4226.34 comments?4226.57

4231.3 Please.4231.3 Yep.4231.86 Yep.4232.42

4235.62 Again,4235.62 if4235.94 you4236.1 just4236.18 please4236.42 state4236.66 your4236.9 name,4236.98 etcetera.4237.22 Oh,4237.78 yes.4238.02 Thank4238.5 you.4238.66 4239.38 ALPERT4239.38 -4239.38 Michelle4239.38 S.4240.1 Alpert.4240.5 I4241.22 live4241.46 at4241.62 1394241.86 Galen,4242.74 and4243.8 I'm4244.03 the4244.11 trustee.4244.43 It's4245.64 Robert4246.19 Leath.4247.64 That's4248.27 his4248.59 building.4248.91 And4249.95 I4250.11 reside4250.35 there4250.76 and4251.07 have,4251.31 like4251.64 I4251.88 said,4251.95 lived4252.27 there4252.51 254252.84 years.4253.31 I4254.27 just4254.43 have4254.68 a4254.91 question4254.99 because4255.47 we4255.95 never4256.19 got4256.43 a4256.59 notice4256.76 for4257.15 the4257.39 first4257.64 hearing.4258.19 But4259.39 when4259.55 you4259.71 purchase4259.87 a4260.35 building4260.59 in4261.15 the4261.39 Dover4261.55 Act4262.03 for4262.27 a4262.51 daycare4262.59 center4263.07 and4264.03 maybe,4264.19 naive,4265.55 but4266.75 if4266.99 the4267.15 building4267.31 only4267.71 had4268.03 a4268.83 certain4268.99 amount4269.39 of4269.71 parking4270.03 spaces4270.59 and4271.23 in4271.94 this4272.18 particular4272.26 one,4272.81 I've4272.98 lived4273.22 there4273.38 254273.61 years,4274.09 there's4274.49 only4274.81 about4275.05 84275.61 spaces.4275.94 So4277.3 how4277.61 on4277.85 earth4278.02 is4278.81 it4279.05 possible4279.22 to4279.77 supply4280.02 the4281.05 244281.22 spaces4281.77 for4282.41 any4282.57 employees4282.98 and4284.44 therefore,4284.68 how4285.4 are4285.64 they4285.88 going4286.04 to4286.2 accommodate4286.28 parking4286.84 for4287.88 a4288.12 building4288.28 that4288.68 doesn't4288.92 have4289.24 the4290.28 necessary4290.44 parking?4291 It4291.48 doesn't4291.72 make4293.56 sense.4293.64 4294.52 So,4294.52 he4294.84 purchases4295 a4295.56 building4295.72 with4296.2 limited4296.44 parking4296.92 for4297.72 a4297.88 daycare4298.04 center,4298.52 and4299.53 therefore4299.77 the4300.34 street4300.57 is4300.9 only4301.06 1-hour4301.69 parking4301.94 and4302.49 it4303.53 also4303.77 is4304.65 a4304.81 street4304.98 that4305.38 abuts4305.61 Newton,4306.18 so4306.73 you4306.98 can't4307.14 park4307.45 the4307.77 whole4307.85 way4308.1 down4308.26 because4308.57 that's4308.9 a4309.14 different4309.22 city.4309.53 So4310.73 I4311.55 don't4311.71 understand4311.87 the4312.43 parking4312.59 issue4313.07 and4313.55 the4313.71 arrangements4314.03 as4315.59 a4317.15 Watertown4317.47 resident.4318.03 It4319.23 baffles4319.39 me4319.95 and4320.27 we4320.51 never4320.67 got4320.91 to4321.15 sit4321.23 on4321.47 the4321.63 first4321.79 hearing,4322.43 but4323.31 that4323.47 doesn't4323.63 make4323.95 any4324.19 sense.4324.43 And4324.83 why4325.39 on4325.63 earth4325.87 does4326.98 anybody4327.23 have4327.7 to4327.94 supply4328.43 parking4328.9 for4330.74 a4331.15 daycare4331.39 center?4331.78 Is4332.19 that4332.34 a4332.66 law4333.23 that4333.63 we4334.02 don't4334.27 know4334.51 about4334.59 as4335.63 a4335.86 group4335.94 of4336.27 owners4336.74 and4337.47 landlords?4337.78 I've4339.38 never4339.62 heard4339.86 of4340.02 such4340.18 a4340.42 thing4340.5 because4340.74 at4341.3 my4341.54 job,4341.7 I4342.02 have4342.18 to4342.34 get4342.5 my4342.66 parking4342.82 like4343.22 I4343.46 stated4343.54 before.4343.94 So4344.74 is4344.98 that4345.14 a4345.46 law?4345.62 4346.74 FERRIS4346.74 -4346.74 Well,4346.74 thank4347.54 you.4347.86 4348.1 ALPERT4348.1 -4348.1 Which4348.1 I4348.34 know.4349.7 So4349.7 that4349.78 is4350.02 the4350.34 question4350.58 I4351.06 have4351.22 is4351.46 that4351.62 if4351.86 there's4352.02 only4352.26 84352.58 spots4352.9 and4353.38 he's4354.31 trying4354.55 to4354.86 find4355.02 parking4355.34 and4355.74 that's4355.9 a4356.06 big4356.15 dilemma4356.47 in4357.02 this,4357.19 I4358.7 guess,4358.86 building4359.19 permit,4359.66 I4360.15 don't4360.23 know4360.55 where4360.63 he's4361.51 materializing4361.82 the4362.63 parking4362.78 when4363.19 he4363.34 bought4363.51 the4363.74 building4363.9 with4364.7 the4364.94 parking4365.1 he4365.59 already4365.82 knew4366.15 of,4366.47 which4366.78 was4367.02 about4367.8 84368.12 spots.4368.36 So4368.84 that's4369.32 a4369.56 concern4369.72 for4370.2 all4370.44 of4370.6 us4370.76 as4370.92 a4371.16 group4371.24 of4371.96 the4372.12 city4372.36 of4372.6 Watertown.4372.76 I4373.4 appreciate4373.64 your4374.04 time.4374.28 Yeah.4374.52 Thank4374.76 you.4374.92 4375.08 FERRIS4375.08 -4375.08 Thank4375.08 you4375.16 very4375.32 much.4375.56 So,4375.88 Gideon,4376.2 if4376.6 you4376.76 would4376.84 maybe4377 just4377.32 answer4377.56 it,4377.8 as4378.28 I4378.44 understand4378.6 the4379 question,4379.08 it's4379.4 for4380.74 a4381.7 use4381.78 that4381.94 has4382.1 limited4382.35 parking4382.74 spaces.4383.06 You4384.35 know,4384.59 what's4384.74 the4384.98 scenario4385.23 when4385.63 those4385.86 limited4386.1 parking4386.43 spaces,4386.9 are4388.1 less4388.27 than4388.51 what4388.74 otherwise4388.98 would4389.47 be4389.63 required4389.78 for4390.27 that4390.66 type4390.82 of4390.98 occupancy?4392.95 SCHREIBER4392.95 -4392.95 Before4392.95 I4393.19 get4393.35 into4393.51 that,4393.75 I'd4393.91 like4394.07 to4394.23 just4394.31 look4394.55 to4394.71 our4394.87 attorney4395.03 to4395.43 make4395.59 sure4395.83 this4396.07 is4396.23 an4396.39 appropriate4396.55 About4398.23 this4398.55 hearing4401.19 because4401.59 it's4401.59 about4401.91 zoning4402.15 in4402.47 general.4402.63 I4403.03 don't.4403.43 FERRIS4403.75 -4403.75 That'd4403.99 be4404.31 great.4404.39 Thank4404.63 you.4404.87 4408.16 SCHREIBER4408.16 -4408.16 Can4408.16 you4408.32 please4408.65 provide4409.05 4409.36 SMERAGE4409.36 -4409.36 Sorry,4409.36 Gideon.4409.52 What's4411.44 your4411.69 question4411.84 for4412.05 me?4412.24 SCHREIBER4413.52 -4413.52 The4413.52 chair4413.84 is4414.09 asking4414.32 me4414.65 of,4414.8 you4414.97 know,4415.36 getting4415.84 into4416.09 the4416.32 details4416.48 of4416.97 how4417.2 a4417.52 nonconforming4417.77 preexisting4418.73 or4419.36 like4419.6 just4419.84 how4420.32 uses4420.56 in4420.97 parking4421.13 happen4423.44 in,4424.24 and4425.52 what4425.68 the4425.92 information4426.24 is4426.72 around4427.12 that4427.44 for4427.84 zoning4428.08 and4428.56 I4428.8 wanted4429.12 to4429.44 see4429.6 if4429.76 that4429.92 was4430 appropriate4431.04 for4431.6 this4431.76 appeal4433.04 rather4433.52 than4433.84 it4435.39 could4435.63 get4435.78 into4435.95 a4436.27 lot4436.35 of4436.51 different4436.59 zoning4436.82 aspects,4437.31 so4437.7 I4437.86 wanted4438.27 to4438.59 look4438.66 to4438.91 you4439.23 before4439.55 responding.4440.03 Is4442.1 it4442.27 appropriate4442.43 for4442.99 this4443.23 appeal4443.47 to4443.86 be4444.03 for4444.59 the4444.82 staff4444.99 to4445.23 respond4445.47 to4445.86 that4446.66 question4447.78 around4449.15 parking4450.54 and4452.62 thresholds4453.1 and4454.22 4454.22 SMERAGE4454.22 -4454.22 Around4454.62 zoning4455.26 for4456.14 parking4456.46 generally.4457.02 I4458.94 mean,4459.1 I4459.42 suppose4459.58 if4459.98 the4460.14 board4460.3 would4460.62 find4460.78 that4461.02 information4461.26 useful4462.78 in4463.27 their4464.39 evaluation4465.19 of4465.98 the4466.15 conditions,4466.55 imposed4468.47 upon4469.02 this4469.34 section4469.66 34470.06 use,4471.1 then,4471.74 you4473.27 know,4473.34 it's4473.59 up4473.74 to4473.9 the4473.98 board,4474.15 to4475.51 decide4475.74 whether4476.15 they4476.39 want4476.55 that4476.7 information.4476.94 4478.86 FERRIS4478.86 -4478.86 Yeah.4478.86 I4479.1 don't4479.74 think4479.9 we4480.14 need4480.3 to4480.46 get4480.54 into4480.62 it4481.02 in4481.1 detail.4481.26 I4481.58 think4481.74 the,4481.9 you4482.22 know,4482.54 the,4482.86 each,4484.7 site4485.42 is4485.74 different.4485.9 Each,4486.3 use4486.86 is4487.18 different.4487.42 There4487.74 are4487.9 regulations4488.06 related4488.7 to4489.02 that.4489.1 But,4489.42 we4490.64 appreciate4490.88 the4491.35 question4491.68 that4491.91 was4492.07 asked4492.31 and4492.56 understand,4492.8 the,4493.91 perspective4494.8 of4495.27 the4495.35 question.4495.52 But4495.84 I4495.99 don't4496.07 know4496.31 that4496.4 we4496.56 need4496.72 to4496.8 get4496.88 into4497.03 detail4497.35 regarding4497.68 zoning4498.64 regulations4499.03 of4499.52 parking4499.68 for4499.99 use,4500.16 etcetera.4500.31 So4500.88 thank4501.11 you.4501.27 4501.52 SCHREIBER4501.52 -4501.52 Thank4501.52 you.4501.68 No.4503.34 Please4503.9 do4504.14 not4504.38 speak4504.54 from4504.78 the4504.94 no.4505.26 Please4505.98 do4506.22 not4506.3 speak4506.46 from4506.62 the4506.78 audience.4506.94 4507.74 FERRIS4507.74 -4507.74 You,4507.74 I'm4508.86 gonna4509.1 give4509.26 you4509.42 this4510.06 final4510.38 opportunity4510.86 to4511.42 go4511.5 up4511.66 and4511.9 make4512.14 some4512.38 comments,4512.62 and,4512.94 then4513.34 we4513.58 are4513.74 going4513.82 into4514.06 closed4514.3 session.4514.62 4515.5 BOLYASNYY4515.5 -4515.5 Thank4515.5 you.4515.74 There4516.14 are4516.38 154516.78 parking4517.66 spaces4518.22 on-site.4518.91 When4520.99 the4522.52 neighbors,4522.68 the4523.23 brothers,4523.4 erected4524.19 the4524.6 fence,4524.76 number4525.4 of4525.8 our4526.19 parking4526.27 spaces4526.76 was4527.16 come4527.31 down4527.56 to4527.8 5.4528.03 This4528.84 is4529.16 why4529.31 we4529.95 in4530.35 the4530.52 court4530.68 ensuring,4532.07 these4533.51 people4533.67 for4534.07 cutting4534.71 off4535.51 our4535.75 parking.4535.99 They4536.63 expressed4536.87 concerns4537.19 about4538.39 safety,4539.03 but4539.75 they4539.91 are4540.07 creating4540.15 unsafe4540.79 environment4541.35 by4541.91 illegally4542.07 reactive4542.55 fence.4542.95 Thank4543.27 you.4543.51 4544.47 FERRIS4544.47 -4544.47 Thank4544.47 you,4544.63 Sir.4544.78 Alright.4545.66 We're4546.06 gonna4546.22 go4546.39 into4546.55 closed4546.94 session.4547.26 So,4548.94 generally,4550.63 I'm4551.02 just4551.18 wondering4551.34 how4551.9 people4552.14 feel.4552.47 So4552.7 it4553.34 seems4553.51 that4553.74 we4554.55 can,4554.63 make4556.55 a4556.7 vote4556.78 this4557.02 evening4557.26 on4557.9 the,4558.14 petition,4560 the4560.36 whether,4564.24 to,4564.8 deny4565.36 the4565.84 petition4565.92 or4566.24 to,4566.48 accept4567.28 the4567.76 petition,4567.84 or4568.72 we4568.96 can4569.12 also,4569.28 just4570.16 simply4570.48 vote4570.96 if4571.44 it4571.76 seems4572 the4572.24 applicant4572.4 is,4572.8 open4575.14 to,4575.38 continuing4576.1 the4576.57 case.4576.73 So4577.3 is4578.18 there4578.41 a4578.65 preference4578.9 for4579.3 people4579.53 or4579.94 I4580.73 don't4580.9 know4581.06 that4581.14 it4581.38 from4581.61 my4581.85 perspective,4582.02 I4582.22 don't4582.41 know4582.65 that4582.81 it4582.98 makes4583.06 really4583.3 much4583.53 difference,4583.77 it4584.18 seems.4584.34 But4584.81 GIRARD4585.85 -4585.85 Well,4585.85 I4586.1 have4586.41 a4586.65 question4586.73 for4587.22 us,4587.45 which4587.77 is4588.02 what4588.34 would4588.49 be4588.65 accomplished4588.81 by4589.84 a4590.48 continuance4590.56 of4591.36 our4591.6 to4592.32 the4592.56 next4592.72 meeting4592.96 to4594.08 February?4594.24 What4594.72 would4595.28 be4595.52 different4595.68 to4596.16 us4596.4 for4597.2 us4597.36 to4597.52 make4597.68 a4597.84 decision4598 about4598.4 approving4598.72 or4599.2 dis4599.36 supporting4600.32 or4600.88 opposing4601.2 the4601.76 decision?4601.92 FERRIS4604.61 -4604.61 So4604.61 I4604.85 won't4605.41 answer4605.65 that4605.98 question,4606.14 but4606.45 I4606.57 think4606.69 we4606.94 could4607.1 ask4607.41 the4608.14 attorney4608.3 to4608.61 do4608.77 so.4609.02

4614.06 SPEAKER64614.06 -4614.06 Are4614.06 you4614.22 asking4614.45 me?4614.77

4616.77 SPEAKER14616.77 -4616.77 Yes,4616.77 please.4617.18 Yep.4617.65 So,4618.19

4618.91 SPEAKER24618.91 -4618.91 are4618.91 you4619.07 I'm4619.31 sorry.4619.55 Just4619.95 to4620.19 clarify4620.27 because4620.75 I4620.91 we4621.23 can't4621.39 see4621.71 you4621.95 at4622.19 first.4622.35

4623.71 SPEAKER14623.71 -4623.71 We're4623.71 asking4623.95

4624.27 SPEAKER24624.27 -4624.27 Our4624.27 our4624.59 attorney?4624.83

4625.31 SPEAKER14625.31 -4625.31 Yes.4625.31 We're4625.55 asking4625.71 our4626.03 attorney.4626.27

4626.59 SPEAKER24626.59 -4626.59 Yes.4626.59 I'm4626.91 sorry.4627.07 Yeah.4627.47 4629.07 SMERAGE4629.07 -4629.07 Through4631.39 you,4631.71 Mr.4635.84 Chair,4636.09 I4636.09 guess4636.16 the4636.4 only4637.44 difference4637.77 for4640.65 the4641.05 board4641.28 is,4641.93 you4643.69 know,4643.77 whether4643.93 it4644.32 wants4644.4 to4644.81 issue4645.52 its4645.93 decision,4646.16 whatever4646.73 that4647.2 may4647.44 be4647.6 tonight,4648.3 and,4649.26 dispose4650.54 of4650.86 the4651.02 appeal,4651.18 and4652.46 let4652.62 the,4652.94 if4654.38 the4655.18 decision4656.14 is4656.62 not4656.86 one4657.58 that4657.82 the4658.14 petitioner,4658.3 accepts,4660.22 let4660.78 the4661.02 petitioner4661.42 decide4662.06 whether4662.38 to4662.78 move4663.64 this4663.88 particular4664.19 matter4664.68 into4664.99 the4665.31 court4665.48 system4665.72 while,4666.27 our4668.03 discussions4668.19 are4669.48 about4669.56 the4669.88 overall,4670.27 site4673.15 are4673.64 ongoing,4673.95 or4674.84 if4675.31 this4675.8 board4676.03 wants4677.78 to,4678.1 wait4680.1 and4680.5 see4680.98 where4681.22 things4681.54 stand4681.94 a4682.5 month4682.58 from4682.82 now4683.06 before,4683.46 issuing4684.34 that4685.06 decision.4685.3 4686.18 GIRARD4686.18 -4686.18 Great.4686.18 Thank4686.42 you.4686.66 Let4687.54 me4687.78 be4688.18 clearer4688.34 about4688.82 my4689.14 question.4689.3 It4690.77 seems4691.01 there4691.34 may4691.65 be4691.9 some4692.22 progression.4692.53 Might4694.3 there4694.53 be4694.69 progression4694.94 towards4695.97 some4696.38 resolution4696.69 of4698.05 the4698.22 issues4698.3 before4698.69 us?4699.09 And4699.34 they're4699.49 all4699.65 very,4699.81 very4700.05 complex.4700.3 There4701.18 are4701.41 land4701.49 use4701.73 issues4702.05 or4702.38 parking4702.85 issues.4703.34 There4703.81 are4704.05 neighborly4704.85 questions4705.41 about4706.05 a4706.37 budding4706.45 and4706.85 straight,4707.09 parking4708.45 on4708.77 the4708.93 streets4709.01 and4709.49 so4709.89 forth.4710.13 Would4710.77 there4710.93 be4711.17 any4711.41 possibility4712.21 of4713.09 a4713.33 resolution4713.57 that4714.53 would4714.77 permit,4715.25 an4717.93 amicable4718.32 go-forward4719.85 plan4720.32 between4721.28 the4721.85 developer,4722.09 the4722.89 applicant,4723.2 and4724.01 the4724.24 community4724.41 and4725.13 our4726.09 and4726.16 our4726.57 board?4726.73 A4727.69 month4727.85 from4728.09 now,4728.32 would4729.05 there4729.28 be4729.45 a4729.61 greater4729.69 chance4729.93 of4730.24 that4730.32 than4730.57 there4730.73 is4730.97 today?4731.13 Because4732.08 right4732.32 now,4732.48 I4732.72 don't4732.8 think4732.96 there's4733.12 much4734.24 much4734.48 of4734.88 a4734.96 chance.4735.04 For4735.52 my4735.68 speaking4736.08 personally,4736.4 from4736.88 my4737.04 own4737.28 point4737.84 of4738.08 view,4738.24 I4738.64 don't4738.8 want4739.04 this4739.28 approved,4739.44 right,4740.48 as4741.12 it4741.28 stands.4741.52 I4742 think4742.16 we4742.4 should,4742.56 that4744.72 is4745.2 I4745.36 think4745.52 we4745.76 should4745.92 uphold4746.16 the4746.64 decision4746.8 by4747.93 the4748.89 planning4749.05 board4749.44 and4750.16 let4750.4 this4750.65 go4750.81 to4751.05 court.4751.13 And4753.2 so4753.44 I4753.69 think4753.85 I4754.32 don't4754.48 know4754.81 what4755.13 would4755.28 change4755.52 my4755.93 mind4756.09 between4756.97 now4757.44 and4757.77 a4757.93 month4758.09 from4758.32 now4758.48 unless4758.81 something4759.2 would4759.52 happen4759.69 in4760.01 discussions4760.16 between4760.73 amongst4761.28 the4761.69 parties.4761.77 I4762.48 guess4762.64 that's4762.72 where4762.8 I'm4763.04 going.4763.2 4763.52 FERRIS4763.52 -4763.52 Thank4763.52 you.4763.76 And4764 then4764.16 I'll4764.4 just4764.96 ask,4765.28 the4767.68 city's,4767.92 attorney4768.88 to4769.36 correct4769.52 me4769.84 if4770 I'm4770.16 stating4770.56 this4771.2 incorrectly.4771.52 But,4772.16 it4774.08 seems4774.32 that4774.72 a4775.76 decision4776.7 this4777.1 evening4777.43 could4779.1 potentially4779.34 be4779.98 followed4780.3 by,4780.78 some4782.15 litigation,4782.47 but,4784.47 a4785.19 continuance4785.43 might4786.86 in4787.1 fact4787.26 prevent4788.3 that4789.34 litigation4789.59 in4791 regards4791.24 to4791.72 discussions4791.96 that4792.44 may4792.6 take4792.84 place4793 within4793.24 the4793.48 next4793.64 month.4793.88 DALE4796.92 -4796.92 That4796.92 was4797.16 the4797.4 point4797.48 of4797.72 my4797.88 question.4797.96 Which4798.84 is4799 if4799.24 there4799.32 is4799.56 a4799.8 it4800.12 sounds4800.28 like4800.44 there's4800.6 a4800.84 larger,4801 like,4801.48 plan4801.8 potentially4802.2 in4802.76 place4802.92 that4803.16 involve4803.4 because4803.64 there4803.88 is4804.04 an4804.2 a4804.36 pending4804.44 application4804.84 in4805.4 progress4805.64 for4806.04 the4806.2 front4806.36 part4806.73 of4806.9 the4806.98 building4807.14 Okay.4807.69 That4808.01 may4808.26 involve4808.41 4808.9 GIRARD4808.9 -4808.9 So4808.9 there4808.98 is4809.22 a4809.53 reason4809.77 for4810.18 us4810.49 to4810.73 give4810.81 to4811.22 you4811.45 there4811.69 may4811.94 be4812.09 a4812.26 reason.4812.34 4812.73 DALE4812.73 -4812.73 There4812.73 there4812.9 may4813.05 be4813.3 a4813.38 reason.4813.45 I4813.77 don't4813.85 know4814.09 about4814.26 the4814.41 timeline.4814.49 4815.3 GIRARD4815.3 -4815.3 Okay.4815.3 And4815.94 whether4816.18 or4816.41 not4816.57 our4818.57 continuance.4819.45 Would4819.77 give4819.94 them4820.18 enough4820.34 time.4820.65 4820.98 DALE4820.98 -4820.98 I4820.98 think4821.14 that4821.3 is4821.45 the4821.61 hope.4821.77 That4822.38 everyone4823.1 everyone4823.42 is4823.74 motivated4823.98 to4824.38 try4824.54 to4824.7 resolve4824.78 this4825.02 for4825.18 him.4825.26 4825.5 GIRARD4825.5 -4825.5 But4825.5 if4825.66 there4825.82 is4825.98 a4826.14 hope,4826.22 let4826.62 it4826.86 spring4827.02 it4827.1 to4827.18 our4827.26 4827.58 DALE4827.58 -4827.58 And4827.58 we4828.06 are4828.22 at4828.38 sex4828.46 fans4828.7 here.4828.94 And4829.1 you4829.14 can4829.18 see4829.34 the4829.5 pending4829.58 application4829.9 that4830.3 has4830.54 partial4830.86 documentation.4832.46 Kind4832.46 of4832.62 already4832.7 percolating.4834.14 And4835.1 so4835.26 I4835.42 think4835.5 the4835.74 hope4835.82 is4836.06 that4836.22 there4836.54 might4836.78 be4837.02 a4837.18 more4837.26 complete4837.5 space4837.97 that4838.36 we4839.09 would4839.24 be4839.56 able4839.72 to4839.89 have4839.97 broader4840.28 comment4840.93 on4841.32 that4841.72 overall4842.05 site.4842.52 4843.09 GIRARD4843.09 -4843.09 K.4843.09 If4843.48 that's4843.89 a4844.05 reasonable4844.13 expectation4844.76 then4845.89 a4846.13 continuance4846.28 would4846.93 be,4847.24 an4848.13 appropriate4848.36 consideration.4849.01 Great.4849.65 4849.89 FERRIS-4849.89 Thank4849.89 you.4850.13 How4850.6 do4850.76 others4850.93 feel4851.24 about4851.48 the4851.72 continuance4852.28 agreement?4854.38 DALE4855.34 -4855.34 Yeah.4855.34 I4855.58 think4855.82 it's4855.98 been4856.14 interesting4856.3 to4856.78 explore4856.94 some4857.26 of4857.42 this.4857.5 I4857.74 think4857.82 getting4858.06 some4858.3 clarification4858.54 that4859.18 what4860.22 the4860.46 planning4860.62 board4861.02 approved4861.18 does4861.58 allow4861.82 for4862.06 flexibility4862.3 and4862.78 does4862.94 allow4863.18 the4863.42 petitioner4863.58 to4864.06 lease4864.46 fewer4864.86 spaces.4865.18 And,4865.58 if4866.38 they4866.53 can4866.61 show4866.77 that4867.01 that4867.26 feels4867.41 reasonable,4867.65 right,4868.22 they4868.69 raise4868.93 one4869.18 of4869.41 the4869.49 pieces4869.57 of4869.89 this4869.97 $4,0004870.22 a4870.93 month4871.01 cost,4871.34 which4871.89 is4872.14 significant4872.45 even4872.93 to4873.18 someone4873.26 who4873.49 has4873.57 kids4873.81 in4874.05 childcare,4874.14 significant4875.09 number4875.57 of4875.81 children.4875.89 And4877.73 it4878.05 is4878.3 but4879.22 but4879.54 that4879.62 they4879.86 have4880.02 that4880.26 flexibility4880.42 as4881.22 part4881.38 of4881.62 this.4881.7 I4881.94 can4882.1 see4882.18 it4882.34 in4882.5 condition4882.66 d.4883.06 And4884.74 I4886.34 would4886.5 say4886.74 that4887.06 I4887.22 similarly4887.46 would4887.94 say,4888.02 we4888.42 should4888.58 uphold4888.82 what4889.06 is4889.46 there.4889.62 The4889.94 other4890.18 conditions4890.34 beyond4890.82 this4891.06 seem4891.22 reasonable.4891.54 And4892.39 it4892.55 seems4892.63 like4892.86 they4893.19 are,4893.35 by4893.59 nature,4893.82 included4894.7 in4895.02 the4895.1 building4895.27 permit4895.59 as4895.9 per4896.23 normal4896.39 processes.4896.78 So4897.66 but4897.9 I4898.06 am4898.23 interested4898.39 in4898.78 seeing4898.94 whether4899.19 those4899.74 processes4899.98 could4900.55 resolve4900.78 in4901.1 the4901.27 next4901.35 month.4901.59 And4902.47 I4902.7 would4902.78 hope4902.94 that4903.19 all4903.51 parties4903.74 involved4904.06 would4904.47 have4904.63 some4904.86 motivation4906.49 to4906.97 do4907.13 so4907.29 so4907.61 that4907.77 we4907.93 avoid4908.09 future4909.85 litigation4910.09 and4910.57 other4910.65 pieces.4910.89 SCHREIBER4911.53 -4911.53 I4911.53 concur.4911.77 4912.49 FERRIS4912.49 -4912.49 Great.4912.49 So4913.29 thank4913.61 you.4913.77 So4913.93 we've4914.33 had,4914.57 you4914.81 know4914.89 4915.61 SCHREIBER4915.61 -4915.61 Mr.4916.73 Chair,4916.89 I4916.89 do4917.05 wanna4917.21 speak4917.45 to4917.69 the4917.77 timing4917.93 piece4918.57 just4918.97 to4919.13 to4919.61 think4919.85 this4920.01 out.4920.25 There4922.06 needs4922.3 to4922.53 be4922.61 a4922.86 complete4923.1 application4924.14 and4925.94 the4927.74 documentation4927.9 around4928.7 that4929.9 for4930.14 it4930.45 to4930.53 go4930.61 to4930.86 a,4931.02 you4931.74 know,4931.9 submitted4932.45 for4932.86 a4933.1 board4933.26 review4935.15 and4935.47 hearing4935.87 process.4936.27 So4937.55 this4938.67 344938.99 days4939.55 is4939.95 certainly4940.19 not4940.59 gonna4940.75 get4940.99 us4941.15 there.4941.39 Just4942.59 a4943.39 timing4943.71 perspective.4944.11 So4944.59 I4944.75 want4944.83 the4945.71 attorneys4946.19 and4946.67 the4947.1 board4947.26 to4947.38 be4947.49 realistic4948.06 about4948.53 that.4948.61 If4948.85 we're4948.94 suggesting4949.98 and4950.45 thinking4950.7 about4951.02 a4951.26 continuance,4951.41 you4953.74 probably4953.98 won't4954.38 have4954.61 answers4954.85 in4955.9 by4956.85 the4957.34 next4957.9 month.4958.45 Because4959.02 they4959.28 would4959.44 need4959.52 to4959.6 submit4959.76 there's4960.24 a4960.4 complete4960.56 application.4960.96 So4962.24 you4963.12 know,4963.28 if4964.4 you4964.64 wanna4964.8 continue4965.2 this,4965.6 it4966.16 feels4966.4 that4966.64 the4966.96 extension4967.12 agreement4967.76 and4968.64 continuance4968.88 should4970.32 be4970.56 considered.4970.72 But4971.28 I4971.44 look4971.76 to4972 our4972.16 attorney4972.32 and4973.31 the4973.95 applicant4974.68 or4975.24 the4977.88 appeal4978.03 yeah.4978.76 Applicants,4979.48 attorneys4980.35 as4980.84 well4980.99 to4981.24 discuss4981.4 that.4981.8 But4982.68 from4982.91 my4983.16 mind,4983.31 we4984.2 would4984.27 wanna4984.44 have4984.76 the4986.03 extension4986.2 agreement4986.68 and4987.16 know4987.4 that4987.64 it4987.88 doesn't4988.03 have4988.74 to4988.98 be4989.7 open4989.94 or4990.34 heard4990.74 and4991.14 decided4991.62 next4992.1 month4992.34 with4993.78 only4994.02 those4994.26 354994.5 days.4994.9 DALE4995.7 -4995.7 Right.4995.7 You're4995.94 suggesting4996.58 that4996.9 we4997.06 should4997.14 not4997.3 do4997.46 a4997.62 simple4997.7 continuance,4998.02 but4998.5 that4998.66 we4998.82 should4998.98 seek4999.22 petitioner's4999.62 interest5000.18 in5000.5 an5000.66 extension5000.82 agreement5001.14 that5001.54 would5001.62 allow5001.86 us5002.02 give5002.18 us5002.34 give5002.66 you5002.82 more5002.98 time5003.14 because5003.38 the5003.62 submission5004.26 deadline5004.49 is5005.06 in5005.3 about5005.53 25005.7 weeks.5005.85 5006.1 SCHREIBER5006.1 -5006.1 About5006.1 it5006.34 and5006.41 the5006.57 reason5006.66 you're5006.9 doing5007.06 it5007.22 is5007.45 because5007.61 you'd5007.85 like5008.1 to5008.26 see5008.41 what,5008.57 you5008.98 know,5009.06 like,5009.38 the5009.7 city5009.85 and5010.18 the5011.14 applicant5011.3 is5011.94 working5012.41 on.5012.81 I5013.45 don't5013.77 think5014.02 that5014.26 that5014.41 time5014.57 frame5014.81 is5015.06 we5016.02 won't5016.18 have5016.34 an5016.49 answer.5016.66 Obviously,5017.45 you5017.77 can5017.85 open5018.66 and5018.98 surpass5020.31 that5020.71 extension5020.87 at5021.27 that5021.43 time.5021.59 But5021.75 Right.5022.07 FERRIS5022.31 -5022.31 Yep.5022.31 What5022.71 would5022.87 be5023.03 the5023.19 negative5023.99 in5024.39 a5024.55 continuance5024.71 then?5025.27 And5025.67 basically,5026.15 if5026.63 in5028.39 terms5028.63 of5028.95 just5029.03 a5029.59 1-month5029.91 continuance.5029.91 SCHREIBER5030.55 -5030.55 You5030.55 have5030.71 55030.95 members.5031.11 These5031.43 are5031.59 the5031.75 members5031.83 that5032.15 can5032.31 vote.5032.47 5033.03 DALE5033.03 -5033.03 That's5033.03 gonna5033.19 be5033.43 the5033.59 same5033.67 people.5033.91 5034.39 SCHREIBER5034.39 -5034.39 If5034.39 we5034.9 have5035.14 an5035.94 issue5036.26 and5036.57 you're5036.81 not5037.14 available5037.3 You5038.65 have5038.81 55038.98 members5039.14 for5039.45 this5039.69 next5039.85 meeting,5040.01 and5041.05 it5041.22 has5041.45 to5041.61 be5041.69 done5041.85 that5042.09 meeting.5042.26 That5046.01 that's5046.41 the,5048.11 if5048.35 you5048.35 continue5048.51 it5048.83 and5049.15 we5049.47 don't5049.63 have5049.87 an5050.03 extension5050.19 agreement5050.67 in5051.07 place5051.23 that5052.03 allows5052.27 it5052.99 to5053.23 be5053.31 continued5053.55 again,5053.95 that's5055.23 what5055.63 you're5055.79 looking5056.03 at5056.27 as5056.43 a5056.59 February5056.67 meeting5057.07 where5057.39 you5057.55 all5058.19 you've5058.59 you5058.99 55059.15 have5059.47 you5059.71 know,5059.87 or5060.11 45060.27 of5060.59 you5060.75 have5060.99 to5061.15 be5061.31 available5061.95 for5062.35 5062.67 FERRIS5062.67 -5062.67 Yeah.5062.67 So5062.91 I'm5063.15 gonna5064.09 rely5064.56 on5065.05 recommendations,5068.09 from5069.6 so,5069.93 the5071.05 city's5071.2 attorney5071.6 has5072.01 spoken.5072.16 The5073.2 applicant's5073.84 attorney5074.32 has5074.72 spoken.5074.89 We've5076.08 all5076.32 been5076.48 speaking.5076.72 You've5076.96 been5077.2 speaking.5077.36 So,5077.76 it5078.48 sounds5078.72 like5079.12 I5080.48 would5080.8 like5081.04 to5081.12 clearly5081.28 understand5081.76 from,5082.48 our5083.76 attorney's,5084 perspective,5085.04 is5086.64 there5086.8 a5087.04 a5087.28 negative5087.36 and5087.84 a5087.92 continuance?5088 When5089.52 we5089.68 walked5089.92 into5090.08 this5090.4 room5090.56 this5090.8 evening,5090.96 we5091.74 were5091.9 the5092.61 continuance5092.77 side5093.26 is5093.49 not5093.74 in5093.98 any5094.14 of5094.3 the5094.45 information.5094.61 So,5095.66 if5097.02 that's5097.26 being5097.49 raised5097.81 by5098.22 others5098.45 for5098.85 us5099.02 to5099.26 consider,5099.41 I5100.3 guess5100.45 I5100.7 would5100.77 just5100.94 like5101.18 to5101.34 hear5101.49 from,5101.74 specifically,5102.45 our5103.65 attorney5103.97 if5104.37 there's5104.61 a5105.05 negative5105.49 or5106.05 a5106.29 positive5106.37 to5106.85 one5107.49 action5107.73 or5108.05 the5108.21 other.5108.37 5110.37 BAKER5110.37 -5110.37 Mr.5110.77 Chair,5111.33 can5111.33 I5111.57 add5111.73 on5111.97 to5112.21 your5112.29 request5112.61 for,5113.09 counselors5113.89 marriage5114.37 to5114.77 to5115.65 comment5115.89 on?5116.29 For5118.07 me,5118.4 what5118.64 I'm5120.07 looking5120.4 for5120.64 clarity5121.03 on5121.6 this.5121.76 This5121.99 is5122.15 a5122.23 very5122.4 confusing,5122.8 multifaceted,5124.72 muddle,5127.99 and5128.56 I5128.8 think5128.88 one5129.11 thing5129.35 we're5129.52 asked5129.84 to5130.15 do5130.31 is5130.8 to5131.72 weigh5131.8 on5132.28 one5132.6 little5132.92 corner5133.24 of5133.64 that.5133.8 And5135.64 I5135.88 can't5136.04 imagine5136.28 there's5136.68 more5137 information5137.24 coming5137.72 in5138.04 that's5138.28 going5138.52 to5138.76 shape5138.84 at5139.24 least5139.4 my5139.64 perspective5139.88 of5141.08 that.5141.32 That5142.04 said,5142.36 we're5143.84 only5144.15 one5144.4 facet5144.64 of5145.03 a5145.19 larger5145.27 negotiation.5145.59 And5146.31 so5146.55 my5146.72 my5146.95 addition5147.11 to5147.44 your5147.59 question5147.68 is,5147.99 would5148.8 us,5149.11 voting5150.15 tonight,5150.64 impede5152.8 the5153.68 ongoing5153.91 negotiations?5154.4 Or5155.27 would5155.44 us5155.68 voting5155.91 tonight5156.31 support,5156.88 clarity5158.13 on5158.53 both5158.77 this5159.01 issue5159.17 and5159.49 the5159.73 larger5159.89 relationship5160.77 ultimately?5161.41 FERRIS5162.45 -5162.45 Thank5162.45 you.5162.69 5166.85 SMERAGE5166.85 -5166.85 Through5166.85 you,5167.09 Mr.5168.37 Chair,5168.77 I'll5168.77 address5168.93 the5169.33 last5169.57 question5169.89 first.5170.45 From5172.35 my5172.59 perspective,5173.06 it's5173.55 my5173.86 hope5174.27 that,5174.82 a5175.55 decision5175.7 by5176.27 the5176.51 board5176.66 tonight5176.98 would5177.39 not5177.55 impede5177.86 further5178.35 discussions,5178.82 with,5180.66 the5181.55 property5181.7 owner5182.27 and,5182.74 First5187.32 Path.5187.32 Those5187.32 discussions,5187.48 as5188.12 I5188.28 previously5188.44 mentioned,5188.84 have5189.24 already5189.4 been5189.8 taking5190.04 place5190.28 in5190.6 the5190.76 context5190.92 of5191.48 their,5192.2 section5193.16 175193.64 appeal5194.36 from5195.16 the5195.4 board's5195.64 first5196.28 decision5196.68 that5197.16 site5197.48 plan5197.72 review5197.96 was5198.28 required.5198.6 And5200.2 I5200.44 think,5200.84 you5201.57 know,5201.66 all5203.18 along,5203.41 we've5204.53 been5204.77 anticipating5205.1 that5205.98 once5206.38 the5206.85 building5207.18 permit5207.57 was5207.9 issued,5208.14 they5208.53 were5208.69 going5208.94 to5209.18 challenge5209.49 the5210.3 site5210.45 plan5210.69 conditions,5211.02 at5211.73 least5211.9 the5212.14 parking5212.3 ones.5212.69 And,5214.69 you5215.02 know,5215.18 they've5215.41 done5215.73 so.5215.98 And,5216.22 I5217.66 don't5218.3 believe5218.62 that5219.02 the5219.42 procedural5219.66 posture5220.46 of5220.94 where5221.42 that5221.74 challenge5221.98 lies,5222.62 whether5223.1 it's5223.42 still5223.58 sitting5224.62 with5224.94 the5225.1 board5225.34 or5225.82 has5226.3 been5226.62 elevated5227.26 to,5227.82 the5228.78 court5228.94 if5229.34 they5229.58 decide,5229.82 to5230.76 do5230.99 that,5231.24 should5231.48 the5231.72 board5231.88 uphold5232.27 the5232.6 planning5232.76 board's5233.16 decision.5233.48 5234.76 I5234.76 don't5234.91 think5235.07 that5235.31 should5235.48 dramatically5236.6 impact5237.56 the5238.52 discussions5238.76 that5239.24 Attorney5239.4 Brown5239.88 and5240.11 I5240.27 are5240.68 having5240.99 on5241.31 an5241.48 ongoing5241.64 basis.5242.11 The5244.07 question5244.31 of5245.83 whether5245.99 there5247.75 are5248.47 any5248.71 negatives5249.83 to5250.47 a5250.83 continuance,5251.51 I5254.95 suppose5255.03 the5255.43 only5255.59 one5255.75 is5255.99 the5256.15 one5256.31 that,5256.47 Gideon5257.03 identified,5257.59 which5258.31 is5258.55 if5259.43 the5259.74 continuance5259.82 is5260.55 to5260.95 the5261.43 February5261.82 meeting,5262.39 and5263.91 at5265.51 that5265.82 time,5266.07 a5269.99 quorum5270.07 of5270.55 the5270.7 members5272.16 of5272.56 the5272.72 board5272.88 who5273.2 can5273.44 address5274.16 this5274.48 matter,5274.64 given5275.04 that5275.36 certain5275.6 other5276.24 members5276.48 of5276.88 the5276.96 board5277.04 who5277.28 are5277.44 not5277.52 present5277.68 tonight5278 have5278.32 had5278.48 to5278.72 recuse.5278.8 And5280.88 at5281.36 that5281.6 time,5281.84 the5282.32 petitioner5282.56 is,5283.28 no5284.24 longer5284.48 willing5284.96 to5285.28 discuss5285.52 further5286.55 a5286.86 further5287.1 continuance5287.51 with5288.15 an5288.39 extension5288.55 agreement,5289.02 then,5290.47 you5290.95 know,5291.1 the5291.27 board5291.51 would5291.91 be5292.06 in5292.39 a5292.55 difficult5293.19 situation5293.74 with5294.23 respect5294.39 to,5294.7 you5295.1 know,5295.19 the5295.59 numbers,5295.82 for5296.78 voting.5297.02 5300.21 But5300.21 other5300.53 than5300.77 that,5300.93 I5301.73 would5301.89 say5302.05 that5303.41 the5303.81 continuance5304.37 is5304.93 being5305.01 considered,5305.33 you5308.21 know,5308.37 would5308.69 allow5309.17 us,5309.57 some5310.69 time5310.93 to5311.25 continue5312.31 the5312.47 discussion5312.63 with5313.1 attorney5313.35 Brown5313.66 and5314.06 see5314.31 if5314.55 a5314.63 comprehensive,5314.86 proposal,5316.7 is5318.23 forthcoming5318.55 and5319.35 could5319.51 be5319.66 evaluated5319.9 by5320.39 the5320.47 planning5320.63 department5321.02 that5321.82 would,5322.06 address5323.35 the5323.98 issues5324.31 that5324.7 are5324.94 before5325.32 the5325.56 board5325.72 with5326.12 respect5326.28 to5326.6 the5326.76 site5326.84 plan5327.08 for5327.32 the5327.48 daycare5327.64 use,5328.12 as5329.08 well5329.32 as,5329.48 other5330.92 issues5331.24 regarding5331.8 the5332.36 property,5333 including5334.2 the5334.84 incomplete,5335.24 application5336.44 for,5337 conversion5337.88 of5338.44 the5338.52 front5338.68 that5339.08 was5339.24 alluded5339.56 to,5339.96 and5341.38 certain5341.61 other,5342.01 issues5342.73 that5343.22 are,5343.61 percolating.5345.22 So5346.41 that's5348.26 that's5348.73 what5348.97 I5349.14 would5349.3 say.5349.45 5355.31 FERRIS5355.31 -5355.31 In5355.31 my5356.03 mind,5356.19 I'm5356.35 not5356.51 sure5356.67 that5356.83 that5356.99 adds5357.15 any5357.39 further5357.55 clarity5357.79 in5358.19 terms5358.27 of,5358.51 5359.39 BAKER5359.39 -5359.39 I'll5359.39 speak5360.51 my5360.75 opinion.5360.91 Thank5361.31 you5361.55 for5361.79 leading.5362.19 I5362.91 suggest5363.79 that5364.27 we5364.43 vote5364.67 tonight5364.99 and5365.79 take5366.03 one5368.35 set5368.59 of5368.75 conversations5370.1 off5370.59 the5370.74 table.5370.9 5371.23 FERRIS5371.23 -5371.23 Great.5371.23 Okay.5371.55 People5372.74 are5373.06 in5373.15 agreement5373.31 with5373.63 that?5373.7 Okay.5375.31 Great.5376.74 So5377.31 we've5377.7 had5378.02 a5378.27 good5378.43 amount5378.59 of5378.74 testimony.5378.9 Thank5379.47 you5379.7 so5379.86 much5380.02 for5380.43 all5380.74 of5380.9 your5381.06 input.5381.23 We've5382.58 had5382.82 a5383.18 good5383.62 amount5383.86 of,5384.18 input5384.74 and,5385.06 testimony5385.62 this5386.26 evening.5386.42 And,5386.98 for5388.58 this5388.82 application,5390.26 or5391.7 request,5392.18 there's5393.06 a5393.62 recommendation5394.02 by5394.66 the5394.82 staff5394.9 to,5395.22 deny5395.62 the5396.02 petition5396.18 for5402.3 9,5402.53 11,5403.09 and5403.9 13,5403.97 Boyd5404.85 Street.5405.26 So,5406.53 with5408.38 that5408.61 in5408.77 mind,5408.94 is5409.26 there5409.49 a5410.77 motion5411.01 that,5411.49 someone5411.9 would5412.3 like5412.45 to5412.61 make?5412.77 5414.41 DALE5414.41 -5414.41 Mr.5414.41 Chair,5414.57 I5414.97 move5415.21 to5415.53 deny5415.69 the5416.25 petition5417.05 to5417.77 amend5418.33 the5418.81 building5419.05 permit5419.53 and5419.77 modify5419.93 the5420.33 building5420.41 permit5420.73 as5421.05 petitioner5421.21 requests.5421.69 5423.93 FERRIS5423.93 -5423.93 There's5423.93 been5424.25 a5424.49 motion5424.57 made5424.89 to5425.13 deny5426.89 the5427.28 petition,5427.45 and5428.49 is5428.81 there5428.97 a5429.13 second,5429.28 please?5429.6 5430.32 ODAMAH-5430.32 I5430.32 second5430.49 that.5430.81 5431.85 FERRIS5431.85 -5431.85 Okay.5431.85 There's5432.32 been5432.73 a5432.89 motion5433.05 made5433.36 and5433.69 seconded,5433.85 so,5434.73 members5437.36 voting,5438.09 by,5438.89 by5439.6 saying5439.93 aye.5440.24

5441.2 Aye.5441.2 To5441.52 approve,5441.84 aye.5442.56

5443.44 SPEAKER35443.44 -5443.44 Aye.5443.44

5444.48 SPEAKER15444.48 -5444.48 Aye.5444.48 Aye.5444.56 And,5445.84

5446.88 SPEAKER55446.88 -5446.88 no5446.88 nays.5447.12 So5447.68 5448.24 FERRIS5448.24 -5448.24 To5448.24 approve5448.4 the5448.8 motion,5448.88 choose5449.28 your5449.44 name.5449.6 To5449.76 approve5449.92 the5450.16 motion5450.32 to5450.56 deny.5450.8 Correct.5451.36 Thank5452.16 you.5452.4 Gideon,5453.74 any5454.06 other5454.39 steps5454.7 we5455.1 need5455.26 to5455.34 take5455.43 in5455.66 regards5455.82 to5456.15 this5456.3 issue?5456.55 5458.06 SCHREIBER5458.06 -5458.06 Just5460.39 for5460.63 the5460.78 record,5460.94 I5461.26 just5461.34 want5461.59 to5461.82 note5461.9 that5462.23 it5462.55 was5462.7 the5462.94 members5463.9 that5464.23 are5464.47 here5464.55 and5464.78 that5465.02 the5465.26 two5465.43 members5465.59 that5465.98 are5466.15 present5467.08 have5467.56 recused5467.72 themselves.5468.2 So5469.16 if5469.4 to5470.2 acknowledge5470.44 that5470.92 we'll5471.72 be5471.96 sure5472.04 to5472.28 have5472.44 that5472.6 in5472.76 our5472.92 minutes5473.08 as5473.4 well.5473.56 5473.88 FERRIS5473.88 -5473.88 Great.5473.88 5474.2 SCHREIBER5474.2 -5474.2 Okay.5474.2 I5475.08 don't5475.16 know5475.4 if5475.56 there's5475.88 anybody5476.12 on5477.4 our5478.36 team5478.76 online5479.16 that5479.56 had5479.93 any5480.09 further5480.32 comments,5480.73 and5481.13 if5481.36 not,5481.53 then5481.77 I5482.01 think5482.16 the5482.41 board5482.57 will,5482.81 you5483.93 know,5484.01 wrap5484.09 up5484.32 their5484.49 process5485.05 and5485.45 their5485.69 meeting.5485.93 So5487.45 I5487.85 don't5488.09 see5488.41 any5488.57 hands5488.81 raised5489.13 from5489.45 our5489.69 staff5490.01 or5490.65 attorney5491.45 online.5491.85 5492.41 FERRIS5492.41 -5492.41 Great.5492.41 Thank5492.73 you.5492.97 So5493.94 I5494.18 think5494.26 we5494.58 are5494.82 all5494.98 set5495.14 if5495.3 there's5495.46 a5495.78 motion5496.02 made5496.42 to,5496.66 conclude5497.3 our5497.7 meeting.5497.86 DALE5499.14 -5499.14 I5499.14 move5499.3 to5499.54 adjourn.5499.86 FERRIS5501.06 -5501.06 Is5501.06 there5501.22 a5501.46 second?5501.54 5502.98 GIRARD5502.98 -5502.98 Second.5502.98

5503.94 SPEAKER15503.94 -5503.94 Okay.5503.94 All5504.58 those5504.74 in5504.98 favor?5505.14 Aye.5505.94

5506.34 SPEAKER35506.34 -5506.34 Aye.5506.34

5506.98 SPEAKER15506.98 -5506.98 Opposed?5506.98 Aye.5507.46 Great.5507.78 Thanks5508.26 everybody.5508.66