Watertown Committee on Rules and Ordinances
Monday January 27, 2025
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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21.3 JOHN21.3 GANNON21.3 -21.3 COMMITTEE21.3 ON21.3 RULES21.3 &21.3 ORDINANCES21.3 CHAIR21.3 -21.3 Good21.3 evening,22.26 everyone.22.57 My23.45 name23.7 is23.86 John24.1 Gannon,24.34 and24.73 I'm24.98 chair25.3 of25.61 the25.77 Committee25.94 on26.26 Rules26.49 and26.81 Ordinances.26.98 And28.09 I'm28.33 joined28.41 this28.73 evening28.97 by29.37 my,29.61 fellow30.33 committee31.13 members.31.53 First32.33 of32.65 all,32.73 we32.89 have33.05 Lisa33.69 Feltner,34.01 who's34.49 the34.81 secretary34.97 of35.69 the35.85 Rules36.33 and36.65 Ordinances37.29 Committee.38.17 And38.17 we38.41 have38.57 online,38.89 John40.81 Arasian,41.37 who's42.47 vice42.95 president43.18 vice44.06 chair44.38 of44.7 the44.86 committee45.74 on46.23 rules46.38 and46.63 ordinances.46.86 We've48.3 got48.55 a49.02 few49.34 items49.5 on49.91 the49.98 agenda50.14 this50.55 evening.50.7 And,51.74 two52.86 will53.18 be53.34 new53.98 to54.23 us,54.38 this54.63 is61.14 an61.14 ordinance61.38 we61.78 discussed62.02 at62.42 the62.42 last62.5 meeting62.74 in63.06 December.63.22 So64.02 firstly,64.26 I'd64.66 like64.9 to64.98 highlight66.42 who's67.06 on,67.38 who's68.26 present,68.58 Proakis76.98 as78.58 well78.74 as79.06 John79.31 Airasian,79.55 whom79.86 we80.1 already80.27 know.80.58 Details.81.3 And81.62 we're86.18 gonna86.34 go86.9 in87.06 order.87.22 So,87.62 George88.9 Proakis89.3 is89.78 kind89.94 of90.1 with91.78 us92.02 to92.34 discuss92.5 briefly93.38 his94.26 comments94.58 on95.06 the95.14 three95.3 ordinances.95.54 And96.48 then96.64 we96.8 can97.59 continue,98.16 as99.52 a99.67 committee99.83 going100.31 forward100.64 with100.95 the101.19 in102.16 succession.102.4 So103.52 ready104.72 to105.03 start.105.12 Any105.76 introductory106.4 remarks107.12 from107.59 fellow108.08 committee108.88 members?109.28
LISA110.21 FELTNER110.21 -110.21 COMMITTEE110.21 ON110.21 RULES110.21 &110.21 ORDINANCES110.21 SECRETARY110.21 -110.21 No.110.21 I110.29 was110.45 just110.53 gonna110.61 I111.09 could111.17 give111.41 the111.97 memorialization112.13 committee.113.09 I116.21 can116.37 just116.85 let117.01 you117.25 know117.33 where117.57 that117.73 stands.118.37
118.37 GANNON120.21 -120.21 Sure.120.21 And120.77 what121.49 do121.73 we121.81 get?122.05 How122.29 we've122.37 been122.61 in122.77 someone?122.93 George127.67 is127.99 here127.99 for128.24 that128.47 purpose,128.56 but128.96 you129.06 can129.17 certainly129.28 supplement,130.31 Lisa.130.72 I131.44 want131.51 to131.68 get132.31 George132.56 in132.88 and132.96 out,133.11 as133.91 soon134.63 as134.88 possible.135.03 City137.44 Manager138.31 George138.79 Proakis139.19 will139.75 introduce140.61 the141.57 continued141.81 effort142.29 of142.93 this143.09 discussion143.49 of144.05 a144.21 memorialization144.85 committee.145.73
149.25 GEORGE149.25 PROAKIS149.25 -149.25 CITY149.25 OF149.25 WATERTOWN149.25 -149.25 Thank149.25 you,149.57 Mr.150.37 Chair150.77 and150.77 members150.93 of151.33 the151.49 committee.151.65 And151.97 again,152.21 I152.61 hope153.41 that153.81 I155.59 can155.75 connect156.31 Councilor156.63 Feltner's157.11 comments157.67 in158.07 mind,158.24 and158.47 we're158.63 essentially158.88 in159.44 the159.67 same159.75 place160 here.160.39 But,161.67 we162.72 did163.03 meet163.28 in163.59 December163.83 on164.24 the164.39 memorialization164.56 committee165.44 as166 you166.31 recall.166.79 And,168.81 at169.77 that170.01 meeting,170.25 you171.05 discussed171.53 provided172.73 guidance173.37 to173.77 the173.93 staff174.01 and174.41 discharged174.65 the175.21 items.175.37 So175.85 my176.97 read177.53 of177.77 the177.93 situation178.09 as178.65 it178.89 stands179.13 right179.53 now179.77 is181.13 that187.03 the187.59 item187.83 in188.15 committee188.31 was188.63 sent188.87 back189.03 to189.19 the189.34 full189.43 council.189.67 The190.47 reason190.63 why190.94 there191.26 is191.43 not191.59 an191.75 agenda191.99 item192.39 on192.63 the192.78 council192.87 meeting193.26 tomorrow193.59 night,193.99 at195.34 this195.5 moment195.75 in196.15 time196.31 is196.87 because,197.11 in198.45 trying198.61 to198.93 reconcile199.17 the199.65 minutes199.89 with200.29 the200.45 ordinance200.69 and201.25 make201.41 sure201.65 to201.89 get202.05 the202.21 section202.45 36202.85 versus203.57 section203.97 38204.37 circumstance205.57 sorted206.29 out,206.69 which207.01 in207.73 detail207.97 what208.37 that208.61 means208.77 is209.09 that209.25 we209.49 need209.65 to209.81 make209.89 sure210.05 that210.29 the212.13 council,212.37 is215.84 in216.16 a216.31 position216.56 where217.12 the217.59 version217.84 that218.79 we219.03 that219.44 we219.75 pass220.24 is220.64 replacing220.88 some221.44 language221.68 that222.16 wasn't222.24 an222.56 ordinance,222.79 but223.19 was223.44 in223.75 a224.47 kind224.56 of224.79 regulation224.96 process225.68 documents226.16 in226.72 a226.79 different226.96 section227.28 of227.68 our227.84 of228.64 our,228.72 book229.2 of229.44 ordinances.230.08 And230.56 we230.72 just230.8 wanna230.96 make231.2 sure231.28 the231.44 right231.6 sections231.84 are232.08 removed232.24 and232.48 the232.56 right232.64 sections232.8 are233.12 added.233.28 Emily,233.84 I234.24 think,234.32 has234.56 got234.8 that234.96 all235.12 together,235.84 but235.84 ran236.08 it236.32 by236.48 KP236.72 Law237.12 and237.36 we're237.6 waiting237.84 for238.16 their238.32 feedback.238.48 So238.88 my239.12 expectation239.28 is239.84 that240.08 the241 item241.24 will241.56 be241.88 able242.11 to242.35 be242.51 discharged242.75 from243.24 committee243.47 with243.88 a244.19 committee244.35 report244.91 at245.56 the245.72 next245.96 meeting,246.68 and247.16 we're247.56 trying247.88 to248.03 do248.19 everything248.28 we248.59 can248.68 to248.83 assist249 the249.31 committee249.4 to249.72 make249.79 that250.03 happen.250.19
251.07 GANNON251.07 -251.07 And251.07 George,251.24 if251.56 you251.72 could,251.88 could252.11 you252.28 just252.44 explain252.68 a253.24 brief253.31 summary253.56 what254.03 the254.28 purpose254.35 of254.68 the254.83 memorialization255 committee255.72 is?256.12
257.21 PROAKIS257.21 -257.21 Sure.257.21 So,257.85 yeah.259.29 I259.61 mean,259.77 briefly,260.01 the260.49 purpose260.57 of260.89 the261.05 memorialization261.37 committee262.25 was263.05 to263.29 provide263.77 advice264.41 to264.81 the264.89 council,265.05 and265.61 it's265.77 the266.01 council's266.17 final266.65 decision266.97 on267.45 particular267.69 items268.17 on269.08 the269.32 naming269.56 of269.96 things270.13 in270.69 memory270.93 of271.4 people,271.56 outside272.93 of273.49 the273.73 process273.88 for274.29 naming274.44 intersections274.93 after275.56 veterans.275.88 That276.44 process276.69 has277.17 a277.32 very277.49 straightforward277.73 strategy279 that279.64 has279.81 been280.05 put280.2 in280.37 place280.52 that's280.85 in281.49 good281.64 shape.281.88 The283.38 reason283.86 why284.26 we285.46 wanna285.62 do286.02 this286.18 is286.42 because286.58 we286.9 have287.06 a287.22 lot287.3 of287.46 people287.54 who287.86 ask288.1 to288.34 name288.42 a288.74 whole288.82 bunch289.06 of289.3 other289.46 things289.7 after290.02 people.290.26 Do290.58 memorial290.82 trees,291.3 do291.7 memorial291.86 benches,292.26 do292.74 intersections292.98 after293.62 people293.86 that294.18 aren't294.34 veterans.294.66 You295.99 know,296.06 if296.22 we296.38 ever296.46 built296.78 a296.94 new297.02 street297.26 named297.58 the297.82 street,297.99 you298.31 know,298.46 anything298.7 of299.66 that299.82 sort300.06 could300.38 potentially300.63 need301.19 or302.63 people303.1 might303.43 be303.58 seeking303.82 to304.22 memorialize.304.46 We305.35 wanted305.5 to305.82 make305.9 sure306.06 that306.31 we306.46 put306.7 a306.87 committee306.94 together,307.35 have308.06 them308.31 establish308.54 some309.02 parameters309.26 for309.82 standard312.09 allows312.73 you313.13 the313.37 opportunity313.53 to314.25 be314.41 I315.93 don't316.09 know316.25 what316.41 the316.49 right316.65 word316.81 is,317.05 but317.29 to317.45 be319.13 an319.29 appropriate319.45 circumstance320.01 for320.57 recognition320.81 in321.61 the321.69 case321.93 of322.17 Watertown322.33 and323.13 then323.29 make323.53 recommendations323.77 to324.49 the324.57 council324.73 that325.05 would325.21 take325.37 a325.61 final325.69 up326.09 or326.25 down326.33 vote326.57 on326.81 these327.24 particular327.31 items.328.36
328.36 So329.07 that329.4 is329.63 what329.8 the330.04 ordinance330.12 is330.6 intended330.75 to331.24 do,331.31 is331.8 set332.04 up332.19 to332.44 do,332.6 and,334.04 with334.84 the335.07 assistance335.48 and336.12 support.336.36 And336.68 I336.84 really337 do337.24 appreciate337.4 all337.88 the337.96 support338.12 of338.44 the338.6 committee.338.75 I339.89 think340.05 we340.21 do340.45 have340.61 a340.93 good341.01 draft341.25 at341.57 this341.73 point341.97 and342.53 I342.93 hope,344.61 that,344.77 you345.81 know,346.13 the346.37 full346.53 council346.85 supportive347.25 of347.81 what347.97 came348.21 out348.37 of348.53 the348.61 committee348.77 and349.01 the349.17 work349.25 the349.49 committee349.57 did349.97 in350.13 the350.21 December350.37 meeting.350.77 I351.09 will351.25 just351.41 note,351.57 this352.86 the353.42 agenda353.57 for353.89 this354.06 meeting354.29 was354.54 published354.69 before355.01 the355.33 December355.5 meeting355.98 happened.356.38 So,356.69 in357.74 being,357.89 a358.77 well-prepared359.25 committee,359.65 I360.06 appreciate360.21 that360.69 you360.85 left361.01 this361.25 on361.81 the362.06 agenda362.21 for362.62 tonight362.77 in363.1 case363.25 we363.5 didn't363.65 finish363.89 it364.13 at364.29 the364.38 last364.45 meeting.364.77 But,365.1 essentially366.23 my366.79 understanding367.03 was367.51 the367.67 committee367.75 finished368.07 giving368.39 us368.63 instructions.368.87 If369.27 you369.43 have369.51 anything369.75 more369.91 to370.15 add,370.23 certainly370.55 there's370.87 an371.19 opportunity371.35 right371.83 now372.07 to372.23 do372.39 so,372.55 but372.63 it373.27 was373.43 recommended.373.91 There374.55 was374.79 a375.03 vote375.51 to375.75 recommend375.91 it376.31 to376.47 the376.55 full376.71 council376.95 with377.51 the377.67 condition377.83 of378.15 making378.31 all378.63 the378.79 changes378.87 we379.27 put379.43 together.379.59 And380.56 we're380.73 just380.81 trying380.97 to381.21 make381.29 sure381.37 that381.53 we381.76 have381.85 the382.09 i's382.25 dotted382.49 and382.81 t's382.97 crossed383.29 with383.53 KP383.76 Law384.17 so384.32 that384.49 we384.65 can384.73 get384.88 that385.13 step385.69 done.386
GANNON386.97 -386.97 Thank386.97 you387.21 very387.37 much,387.61 George.387.85 And388.17 I388.4 wanna388.56 give388.81 Lisa389.05 Feltner389.37 an389.69 opportunity389.85 to390.81 discuss391.05 the391.69 ordinance392 as392.4 well392.56 since392.81 she's393.2 been393.52 tracking393.84 it394.24 and394.48 as395.52 secretary,395.6 and396.8 she397.04 had397.2 some397.44 further397.6 comments.397.92
399.2 FELTNER399.2 -399.2 Oh,399.2 sure.399.44 No.399.76 It,399.92 just400.48 confirming400.8 what401.28 the401.6 manager401.76 said.402.32 I402.56 appreciate402.88 him403.2 being403.36 here.403.52 I403.68 didn't403.76 realize403.92 he404.16 was404.24 gonna404.4 be404.64 here.404.8 That,405.28 I406.16 went406.32 over406.56 the406.8 minutes,407.04 the407.74 draft407.98 minutes408.3 with,408.86 deputy410.21 city410.77 manager411.1 Emily411.5 Monea411.81 and,412.94 as414.45 well414.62 as414.86 the415.01 ordinance.415.57 And416.69 to417.01 us,417.18 they417.5 seem418.29 to418.45 make418.62 sense.418.86 So419.1 she419.25 sent419.57 those419.81 edits420.06 to420.45 KP420.69 Law421.1 as421.33 the421.65 manager421.89 stated.422.21 So422.61 we're422.77 just423.09 waiting423.25 to423.57 get423.65 those423.81 back.423.97
425.17 GANNON425.17 -425.17 And,425.17 open426.13 up426.45 to426.61 comments426.93 from,427.41 first428.37 of428.69 all,428.77 Councilor429.57 Airasian,429.89 do429.89 you429.97 have430.05 any430.21 thoughts430.45 on430.69 the430.93 memorialization431.25 committee431.89 progress?432.45
435.24 JOHN435.24 AIRASIAN435.24 -435.24 COMMITTEE435.24 ON435.24 RULES435.24 &435.24 ORDINANCES435.24 VICE435.24 CHAIR435.24 -435.24 No.435.24 No.435.56 I'm436.04 happy436.27 with,436.6 how437.48 we437.71 left438.19 it438.51 last438.68 meeting439.07 and,439.48 you440.12 know,440.27 looking440.51 forward440.75 to441 it441.15 being441.31 in441.48 front441.56 of441.8 the441.95 full442.04 council.442.27
443.24 GANNON443.24 -443.24 Okay.443.24 Thank443.56 you.443.71 And444.19 any444.51 members444.75 of445.15 the445.24 public445.31 either445.95 present446.44 or447.31 online447.56 have448.51 any448.68 thoughts,448.92 comments449.73 on449.97 the450.37 Memoralization450.61 Committee451.33 Ordinance451.73 draft?452.29 Okay.455.01 With455.33 that,455.57 I455.81 think455.97 we456.21 can456.53 move456.77 forward457.01 to457.33 the457.49 next457.57 agenda457.89 item.458.37 And459.25 also,459.57 I459.97 want460.13 to,460.37 note461.41 that461.73 Councilor462.5 Nicole463.21 Gardner,463.62 District464.74 A465.13 councilor,465.13 has465.13 just465.38 joined465.54 us465.77 in465.94 the466.01 room466.25 and466.9 very467.21 apt467.77 timing468.1 because468.57 she469.46 was469.69 going469.94 to470.25 be470.42 I470.98 was471.13 gonna471.3 lean471.62 on471.94 her472.1 to472.33 discuss472.57 the473.06 proposed473.3 next473.94 agenda474.25 item474.81 as475.69 a475.86 proposed476.01 food476.65 and476.98 beverage477.06 single-use478.26 items478.74 ordinance.479.22 So479.78 we480.34 don't480.58 have480.74 a480.9 draft481.06 yet,481.46 but481.78 thought482.5 that482.82 this482.9 would483.14 be483.3 the483.46 opportunity483.54 to484.18 introduce,484.42 the485.54 concept.485.78 And486.74 then,486.98 we489.38 as489.62 a489.78 committee489.86 can490.26 discuss490.5 further490.9 action,491.22 there.492.63 So492.88 thank493.51 you,493.68 Nicole493.91 Gardner,494.24 and494.63 I494.88 welcome495.04 I,495.71 offer496.63 you496.88 the497.12 floor497.35 to497.68 discuss497.83 the498.15 ordinance.498.31
498.95 NICOLE498.95 GARDNER498.95 -498.95 WATERTOWN498.95 CITY498.95 COUNCIL498.95 -498.95 Thank498.95 you499.12 very499.19 much,499.44 Councilor499.91 Gannon.500.31 I500.71 appreciate500.79 it.501.19 Excuse503.04 me.503.44 This504.07 is504.31 a504.56 request505.19 that505.6 I505.83 made505.91 to506.24 have506.39 the506.63 referral506.79 to507.27 this507.51 committee.507.68 Essentially,509.45 what509.93 this510.09 ordinance510.25 would510.73 do510.97 at511.45 a511.61 high511.69 level511.85 is512.17 ban512.41 restaurants512.73 from513.29 automatically513.61 and514.33 every514.57 single514.89 time,515.29 including516.09 plastic516.49 utensils,517.93 straws,518.73 and519.21 condiments,520.49 putting521.88 that522.2 in522.43 takeout522.6 bags523 as523.32 a523.48 matter523.55 of523.79 course,523.95 but524.6 instead524.83 put525.24 them525.39 in525.55 takeout525.71 bags526.12 only526.43 when526.67 requested.527 And527.79 really,528.03 there528.27 are528.43 a528.6 couple528.67 of528.91 really529.08 obvious529.32 reasons529.63 for530.03 this530.2 in530.36 my530.51 mind.530.67 First531 of531.24 all,531.39 environmentally,531.63 it's532.27 aligned532.51 with532.91 our533.08 climate533.24 energy533.63 goals534.03 that534.27 reduces534.51 single-use535.39 waste,535.71 and536.9 plastic,537.22 which537.62 is537.78 important538.18 important538.82 for539.06 us539.3 to539.46 do.539.54 So540.18 it540.34 is540.42 aligned540.66 to541.06 the541.14 sort541.22 of541.7 sustainability542.02 goal542.66 with542.98 that.543.46 You545.86 know,546.02 I546.18 don't546.34 know546.5 how546.66 much546.74 you546.98 have547.22 followed547.46 the547.78 use547.94 the548.34 problems548.76 with549.16 single-use549.57 plastic,549.8 but550.21 they're550.37 really550.52 devastating550.85 to551.4 our551.57 waterways551.8 and552.28 our552.52 ocean.552.68 And553.4 they553.57 also553.73 create553.97 tremendous554.28 amount554.68 of554.85 litter.555 And556.13 so556.68 that's556.92 number557.16 one.557.49 The557.97 second558.13 thing558.37 is558.61 actually558.76 for559.09 restaurants.559.33 This560.28 saves560.52 them560.85 money.561.75 It561.99 saves562.23 them562.55 labor.562.79 It563.19 saves563.43 them563.67 space564.63 in565.11 their565.27 restaurants565.75 being566.23 dedicated566.47 to567.03 storage567.27 of567.59 this567.75 stuff.567.99
568.63 So568.63 in568.87 general,569.03 the569.59 things569.75 I've569.99 been570.23 reading570.47 suggest570.79 that571.19 depending571.43 on571.83 how571.99 it's572.07 crafted,572.23 restaurants573.51 and573.99 restaurateurs574.15 actually574.87 appreciate575.51 this.575.99 I577.59 also577.75 think,578.07 you578.55 know,578.63 in578.79 terms578.95 of579.18 beautifying579.35 Watertown,579.9 I580.63 walk581.11 in581.5 Coolidge581.67 Square582.07 a582.47 lot.582.55 Often,583.11 our583.5 municipal583.75 trash584.38 boxes584.63 are585.18 overflowing585.42 with586.07 waste586.38 from586.79 takeout.587.11 Many588.63 people588.87 take589.26 do589.5 takeout589.74 now589.98 when590.22 they590.46 didn't590.54 used590.78 to.590.94 They591.02 used591.18 to591.34 cook591.42 at591.66 home591.82 or592.06 eat592.22 out,592.46 but592.7 I592.94 think593.02 during593.26 COVID593.58 people,593.98 you594.3 know,594.54 a595.02 lot595.1 of595.26 our595.42 behavior595.58 has595.98 changed.596.14 And596.46 so596.62 I596.78 think,596.86 I597.42 know597.5 in597.66 our597.82 family597.98 and598.3 I598.38 think598.46 others,598.7 takeout598.94 has599.26 become599.5 more599.74 of599.9 a600.06 thing.600.14 So600.86 it's601.1 just601.34 really601.58 those601.82 are601.98 the602.14 reasons,602.22 for603.46 asking603.77 this604.89 committee605.13 to605.62 consider,605.77 requesting606.58 an606.98 ordinance607.13 from607.53 the607.7 city607.77 to608.65 bring608.89 before609.13 the609.46 council.609.62 I610.58 will610.74 note610.98 that611.29 Newton611.53 has611.86 passed612.1 this.612.41 I612.65 mean,612.82 it612.98 was613.05 a613.22 much613.38 broader613.62 plastic614.01 waste614.41 ordinance,614.74 but615.22 this615.38 was615.53 included615.7 in616.17 it.616.25 I616.88 will617.04 also617.2 note617.52 that617.68 Needham618 and618.32 Wellesley618.48 will619.44 have619.6 this619.84 on620 their620.16 town620.32 warrant620.72 this621.36 spring.621.6 This622.72 is622.96 not623.12 a623.36 new623.52 idea.624.4 It's624.8 it's,625.04 you625.36 know,625.52 it's625.76 been626.08 happening626.32 in626.72 other626.88 towns627.12 and627.44 is628 being628.16 considered628.48 by628.88 their629.04 neighboring629.77 towns630.19 as630.62 well.631.03 So631.86 that's632.17 the632.5 that's632.82 the633.29 background633.62 if634.1 that's634.5 helpful634.74 and635.05 I'm635.21 happy635.29 to635.62 answer635.69 any636.01 questions636.17 or636.57 turn636.82 it637.05 back637.21 to637.38 you.637.45
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