Watertown Affordable Housing Trust
Tuesday March 18, 2025
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
CLIFF14.89 COOK14.89 -14.89 AFFORDABLE14.89 HOUSING14.89 TRUST14.89 CHAIR14.89 -14.89 This14.89 is15.13 a15.29 meeting15.38 of15.62 the15.78 Affordable15.86 Housing16.34 Trust.16.73 Cliff17.61 Cook,18.02 I'm18.02 the18.1 chair.18.26 Working19.7 with20.1 our20.26 agenda.20.82 We22.65 need22.82 the23.05 first23.14 item24.02 is24.57 the25.45 minutes25.61 of25.94 February26.18 1826.7 meeting.28.38 Does29.1 anyone29.34 have29.66 any29.82 edits30.14 or30.46 corrections31.1 at31.9 that32.06 point?32.22 Which33.74 is,33.98 I34.22 think,34.38 we've34.7 got35.02 to35.26 mention35.42 that35.74 Helen35.98 was36.38 present36.62 at37.1 the37.18 meeting.37.26 That's37.58 not37.82 present.39.64 She39.68 was39.71 not39.74 present.39.82 Oh,40.14 that's40.46 why40.86 it's41.1 George.41.34 We're41.74 not41.9 present.42.31 It's42.55 George42.8 Worry43.27 not43.43 present.43.84 Okay.44.88 That's45.35 my45.59 correction.45.75 Anything48.23 else48.55 anybody48.8 would49.2 like49.27 to49.67 just?49.91 K.51.59 Can51.75 I51.91 ask52.07 for52.23 a52.31 motion52.39 to52.71 approve52.88 the53.11 minutes53.27 of53.59 the53.75 February53.99 meeting?54.39
55.84 JILL55.84 HYDE55.84 -55.84 AFFORDABLE55.84 HOUSING55.84 TRUST55.84 MEMBER55.84 -55.84 Motion55.84 to56.16 approve56.56 the56.88 minutes57.04 of57.92 the58 Affordable58.24 Housing58.64 Trust58.96 meeting,59.28 February61.28 18.61.81
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HELEN64.24 OLIVER64.24 -64.24 AFFORDABLE64.24 HOUSING64.24 TRUST64.24 MEMBER64.24 -64.24 Second.64.24
65.36 COOK65.36 -65.36 Okay.65.36 Larry,66.88 since67.2 we're67.36 all67.6 here,67.84 can68.16 we68.32 just68.48 do68.72 a68.96 voice69.12 code?69.36 All70.27 in70.42 favor,70.58 please71.22 say71.55 aye.71.78 Aye.72.5 Any73.22 nays?73.55 The74.5 ayes74.67 got74.98 it.75.14 K.76.34 The78.02 next78.19 item78.42 is80.02 the80.34 little80.58 project80.91 of82.19 digital82.27 commerce82.66 design83.14 inhibitors.83.55 So85.28 let85.6 me85.68 ask85.92 Larry86.16 to86.56 introduce86.64 this87.12 for87.36 us.87.52
89.92 LARRY89.92 FIELD89.92 -89.92 TOWN89.92 OF89.92 WATERTOWN89.92 -89.92 So89.92 Willow90.24 Park90.64 redevelopment90.96 project91.6 will92 be92.16 heard92.32 by92.64 the92.8 zoning92.96 board93.36 on93.76 March94 26.94.61 As96.56 you96.72 know96.96 from97.28 our97.6 prior98.08 discussions,98.4 the99.25 4099.42 b99.73 process99.97 includes100.38 a100.85 call101.02 to101.33 municipal101.58 departments,102.13 boards,102.61 and102.85 commissions103.09 to103.81 comment.103.97 And,106.13 I108.38 suggest108.53 and109.25 I109.49 believe109.66 that110.22 you110.45 would110.69 be111.09 interested111.33 in111.81 commenting.112.05 So113.57 to114.37 identify114.45 some115.09 of115.33 the115.41 areas115.65 where,116.29 that117.57 comment117.73 will118.13 be118.45 most118.61 useful.119.89 Number122.53 one,122.85 during124.85 the125.33 project125.73 eligibility126.29 phase,128.33 which128.74 is128.97 when129.85 the130.09 state130.25 deemed131.29 this131.61 project131.85 is132.25 eligible132.41 for133.06 chapter133.53 40133.94 b,134.25 you135.53 commented135.85 and136.5 I136.74 wrote136.81 up137.13 comments137.38 we137.78 provided137.94 to138.5 the138.57 state138.81 that139.78 focused140.25 on141.06 why144.96 this145.76 was146 the146.56 most146.72 important146.96 affordable147.36 housing147.84 project148.16 in148.56 Watertown148.8 in,149.52 decades151.2 and152.4 particularly152.8 talked153.52 about,153.84 the155.25 funding155.41 commitment155.97 that156.76 the157.41 trust157.56 made,158.04 $400,000,158.93 39%162.76 of163.56 the164.28 available164.44 funds165.09 the165.88 trust166.21 controls.166.6
169.81 So,169.81 that's170.53 a170.77 document170.93 that171.49 is171.73 not171.97 before172.21 the172.53 zoning172.77 board,173.17 and,173.65 so174.53 that,174.85 that176.29 point176.53 is177.33 something177.49 that177.89 would177.97 be178.13 for178.53 them,178.69 to179.73 get.179.97 The181.5 second181.67 thing181.99 is182.22 that182.47 the182.71 application182.94 specifically,183.75 includes185.34 or186.06 will186.39 include186.63 a187.03 request187.27 of,188.55 waivers189.91 for190.47 various190.63 things,191.11 including191.5 the192.55 procedural192.87 requirements,193.67 for,195.19 section196.71 5.07197.19 of198.23 the198.47 zoning198.55 ordinance.198.95 So199.67 that199.91 is200.15 when200.39 projects201.35 come201.99 to202.39 the202.71 trust,203.11 to204.15 go204.23 over204.39 their204.55 affordability204.79 plan.205.51 And206.39 what207.19 POA207.91 has208.31 done208.63 is209.03 said,209.91 here's210.96 what211.19 we're211.51 gonna211.68 do.212 We're212.31 gonna212.56 substantively213.03 meet214 and214.88 exceed215.11 what215.91 is216.31 required.216.47 But217.35 we217.51 don't217.68 wanna217.91 take218.16 the218.31 extra218.47 step218.88 of219.35 coming220.07 here220.47 to220.88 doing221.03 that.221.35 Right.221.59 And222.63 that222.88 would223.03 also223.19 be223.44 kind223.59 of223.75 would224.16 be224.31 out224.4 of224.63 sync224.79 because,225.11 it's227.37 the228.57 zoning228.89 board229.29 is229.53 a229.69 single229.77 permit230.17 renting230.81 authority.231.29
231.69 COOK231.69 -231.69 Yeah.231.69 It'll231.93 be232.09 an232.25 inappropriate233.13 precedent233.77
234.49 FIELD234.49 -234.49 Yeah.234.49 I234.81 would234.89 say.235.13 So,236.57 I241.4 think241.47 having242.19 the,242.68 trust243.96 say245.07 that245.4 we245.72 agree245.96 that246.28 that's246.44 not246.75 necessary247 would247.47 be247.63 useful247.79 to248.28 the248.35 ZBA.251.63 But251.63 in251.88 lieu252.12 of252.59 conducting253.57 that254.13 formal254.37 review,254.85 it255.81 would255.97 probably256.21 be256.77 useful257.01 for257.41 you257.65 all257.89 to258.13 know258.37 in259.33 some259.49 cases,259.73 remind260.13 you260.45 because260.53 you've260.77 heard260.93 this261.09 before.261.25 In261.49 some261.57 cases,261.81 there's262.13 been262.37 more262.53 detail262.77 about263.25 what263.49 their263.65 affordability263.89 plan264.61 is,264.85 and265.09 I265.33 can265.41 cover265.97 that,266.29 in266.85 a267.41 minute?267.49 And268.8 then268.96 the269.75 third270.07 point270.56 would271.04 be,271.19 any272.24 comments272.56 you273.12 have273.27 on273.6 other273.92 aspects274.56 of275.04 the275.27 project.275.51 And276.15 some276.88 of277.04 the277.12 appropriate277.44 subjects278.07 are278.56 site278.88 design279.19 and279.84 the280.31 degree280.48 to280.88 which,281.04 it282.24 works283.98 well,I9287.42 for287.42 households288.7 with289.42 affordable289.66 incomes290.22 or291.34 that291.9 need292.62 affordable293.1 units293.82 or296.06 how296.31 the297.02 site297.26 design297.58 could297.75 be297.99 improved298.14 for298.55 them.298.63 The299.75 same300.06 with300.38 building300.94 design,301.5 whether302.87 it's303.11 suitable303.67 for304.06 these304.38 households,304.7 whether305.26 it305.43 can305.58 be305.75 approved305.99 upon.306.38
307.99 And307.99 so,308.23 you308.63 know,308.79 there308.94 are309.19 comments309.35 like309.82 that309.99 parking310.14 demand310.54 is310.94 another311.11 one,311.43 whether312.54 the312.94 level313.1 of313.34 parking313.5 that313.82 they're314.06 proposing314.38 is314.78 something314.94 that's315.34 in315.5 line315.66 with,316.06 with316.94 these317.18 households.317.34 So318.14 that318.7 does319.02 three319.5 suggestions,319.9 but320.38 there320.54 are320.7 any320.94 number321.18 of321.42 things321.58 you321.82 could322.06 pick322.22 out322.46 of322.62 the323.58 application323.74 to324.3 comment324.46 on.324.86 So326.12 on326.44 the326.75 affordability,326.84 I328.12 do328.28 want,328.6 to,329.56 briefly330.36 summarize330.92 that.331.56 So336.6 there336.84 are337 60337.4 existing338.19 public339.55 housing339.79 units,340.27 which340.83 will341.07 all341.31 be341.55 replaced,341.71 and343.07 they343.39 will343.63 be343.79 replaced344.11 at,345.47 an348.67 eligible348.83 income349.39 level349.79 of350.19 below350.51 50%351.15 of351.87 AMI.352.03 And354.92 it's355.07 important355.31 to355.71 distinguish355.95 between356.51 that357.79 as358.04 an,358.19 an359.15 income359.39 eligibility359.88 and360.68 what361 they're361.24 actually361.48 paying361.88 in362.19 rent362.35 because362.75 as363.71 public363.95 housing364.35 units,364.83 it's365.56 30%365.88 of366.51 their366.6 actual366.83 income.367.24 So368.83 you369.34 may,369.84 it371.55 does371.71 having373.23 a373.39 higher373.55 eligibility373.95 expands375.07 pool,376.27 it376.43 doesn't376.67 mean377.63 someone's377.95 gonna378.35 pay378.67 more378.91 rent.379.15
COOK379.55 -379.55 What's379.55 the379.87 current380.03 eligibility380.43 cutoff?381.15
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FIELD506.13 -506.13 Yes.506.13 And,506.86 it507.81 may508.06 not508.21 immediately508.46 go508.94 up,509.1 but509.65 it509.98 would510.13 go510.38 up510.54 over510.94 time511.33 assuming511.65 that512.13 the512.38 area512.53 median512.86 income513.25 continues513.5 to513.98 rise514.13 as514.46 it514.53 has.514.77 So517.47 then517.63 with518.19 respect518.43 to518.83 bedroom519.07 units,519.63 right521.07 now,521.39 the522.27 public522.67 housing522.99 units523.31 are523.79 split523.95 between524.35 two524.99 and525.23 three525.39 bedrooms.525.63 34526.99 and527.47 26527.71 is528.27 the528.35 actual528.51 numbers.528.99 And531.27 that's531.43 gonna531.67 be531.91 maintained532.15 with532.71 the,533.6 proposed,534.32 the535.91 proposed536.07 project.536.55 Of538.32 the538.48 78538.71 new540.07 units,540.32 they're541.12 gonna541.36 be541.6 split541.75 differently.542.07 They're542.63 going542.95 to543.19 be543.27 a543.43 full543.6 range543.91 of544.48 from545.45 studio545.77 to546.33 three546.57 bedroom546.89 with548.41 60%548.73 of549.61 them549.85 being550.09 in550.41 the550.49 studio551.29 and551.69 one552.01 bedroom552.17 category552.57 and553.13 40%553.37 in554.33 the554.57 two554.73 and554.97 three555.13 bedroom555.53 category555.93 with556.89 nine557.77 units558.09 being558.97 three559.61 bedroom.559.85 And,561.78 so563.23 there563.46 it564.02 obviously,564.58 it's564.82 a565.07 more565.46 diverse565.87 stratification566.5 than,567.38 than568.35 before.568.58 So571.23 that572.26 is572.58 my572.9 introduction,573.23 and574.9 back575.46 to575.7 you575.87 to576.11 the576.35 discussion.577.07 Oh,577.39 actually,577.43 I577.47 should577.87 do578.03 one578.19 more578.35 thing,578.51 which578.67 is578.83 that578.99 I579.71 will579.87 write580.11 up580.35 your580.43 comments580.67 as581.07 I581.23 had581.47 done581.63 before.581.87 And,582.99 if583.87 you'd584.03 like584.27 me584.51 to584.67 work584.75 with584.91 Cliff585.15 on585.39 that,585.55 I'm585.71 happy585.87 to586.19 do586.27 that.586.43 So586.83 the587.23 deadline587.71 for588.27 that588.43 to588.55 get588.67 the588.91 ZBA589.07 will589.55 be589.71 we590.09 have590.33 to590.57 provide590.73 it591.13 on591.29 Thursday,591.45 in592.25 order592.33 to592.57 be592.64 the592.8 agenda592.97 packet593.37 for593.68 Friday.593.85 Okay.594.49
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600.17 ZOE600.17 WEINROBE600.17 -600.17 AFFORDABLE600.17 HOUSING600.17 TRUST600.17 MEMBER600.17 -600.17 I600.17 have600.4 one600.64 comment600.97 about601.52 the,602 removing604.39 the604.79 requirement604.95 to605.43 come605.51 back605.67 to605.83 us605.99 about,606.23 due607.03 to607.19 the607.35 affordable607.51 units.607.91 I608.39 think608.47 also608.79 in609.03 support609.27 of609.59 that611.67 eliminating612.07 that612.71 apartment,612.87 part613.43 of613.75 the613.91 deal614.23 with614.47 our614.63 $400,000614.79 award616.36 was616.51 also616.68 that617 we617.15 get617.24 an617.48 affordable617.63 housing618.04 restriction,618.43 on620.6 the620.84 property621 based621.8 on622.12 that622.27 400,000.622.43 So623.39 we624.04 are624.2 ready.624.36 You're624.68 getting624.75 significantly625.88 more626.6 sort627.39 of627.63 control627.96 and628.51 sort628.68 of628.92 rights629.24 over629.63 the629.96 affordable630.12 breakdown630.97 by631.45 virtue631.61 of632.01 that632.09 affordable632.33 housing632.73 restriction633.05 that633.85 we634.09 will634.25 be634.49 party634.57 to634.89 on635.13 the635.29 property.635.37 So635.93 just636.17 yet636.49 another636.73 reason637.13 why637.53 I637.85 think637.93 it's638.17 fine638.41 that638.65 we're638.81 not639.05 they're640.01 not640.25 having640.49 to640.73 come640.89 back.641.05 They're641.61 asking641.85 for642.17 relief642.41 of642.97 that643.13 requirement.643.37
646.45 COOK646.45 -646.45 I646.45 think646.61 that's646.76 an647 important647.33 point647.64 to647.97 make.648.05
WEINROBE649.57 -649.57 Which649.57 is649.73 not649.97 what650.29 we650.45 have650.61 inclusionary651.49 units652.45 or652.85 you653.17 know?653.64
653.64 COOK653.64 -653.64 Yeah.654.13 But654.61 I654.85 think654.93 we655.09 should655.25 note655.57 that655.8 we656.29 believe656.45 that656.93 what657.33 what657.57 we657.8 were658.13 seeing658.37 will658.68 meet658.85 the659.09 spirit659.64 of660.13 the661.79 zoning662.19 ordinance662.51 that663.07 the663.23 trust663.39 oversees.664.27 So666.19 we666.43 don't666.59 have666.75 any666.91 concerns667.31 there.668.35 And670.43 you670.59 mentioned670.75 for671.07 the671.23 things,671.31 Larry,672.43 the672.75 importance674.67 of675.23 this675.39 project675.63 historically,677.89 in678.62 Morecam,678.7 which680.05 we680.29 can680.46 certainly680.62 remark681.25 on.681.65 I'm682.05 not682.29 sure.682.46 Maybe683.25 they683.45 have683.65 some683.82 sort684.05 of684.22 the684.38 ZBA.684.46 But685.17 I685.34 think685.41 the685.58 more685.74 important686.05 part686.62 that686.93 people687.01 heard687.34 of687.58 was687.65 parking,687.82 because689.15 I689.31 think689.39 that689.55 could690.03 be690.19 where690.27 there690.51 could690.67 be690.83 some690.99 back691.31 and691.55 forth.691.71 Do693.47 we693.71 have693.87 information694.19 on694.75 the694.91 parking695.07 ratio?695.47
696.27 FIELD696.27 -696.27 Yes.696.27 111702.68 parking704.61 spaces705 for705.49 38705.8 units,707.25 which707.64 is707.88 0.8.708.21 And709.57 one709.8 of709.97 the710.13 things710.28 that710.61 came710.76 out710.92 of711.16 the711.25 community711.4 meetings711.97 was712.45 that,712.68 POA,713.97 went715.36 back715.6 to715.84 the716 drawing716.16 board716.56 because717.04 they718 were,718.08 I718.32 think,718.4 at718.64 0.62718.96 when719.68 they719.92 came720.32 in720.48 as720.72 that720.88 work721.04 stage.721.28 And722.24 they,722.64 both724.08 acquired724.64 the725.28 9597725.52 Nichols726.96 Ave727.52 property727.92 that's728.4 adjacent,728.64 you729.68 know,729.76 part729.93 of730 the730.25 project.730.4 And731.05 also731.29 designed731.68 a732.25 split732.49 level732.88 parking,733.29 structure734.97 so735.93 that736.17 they736.33 could736.49 increase736.73 the737.21 amount737.37 of737.61 parking737.68 even738.25 though738.49 they738.81 were739.52 increasing739.76 the740.25 number740.33 of740.64 units,740.73 because741.85 they742.09 initially742.25 came742.64 in742.88 at743.05 125.743.29 So744.36 they744.52 do744.76 both.744.84
746.52 COOK746.52 -746.52 Jill,746.52 do746.76 you746.84 have747 a747.24 comment747.4 on747.64 this?747.72
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