Watertown Public Shade Tree Hearing
Tuesday July 22, 2025
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
MICHAEL17.45 MICIELI17.45 -17.45 CITY17.45 OF17.45 WATERTOWN17.45 -17.45 Alright.17.45 Good17.86 morning,18.02 everybody.18.34 I18.89 am19.14 going19.38 to19.7 go19.93 ahead20.1 and20.34 get20.49 started.20.73 I'm51.58 going51.82 to52.14 go52.3 ahead52.46 and52.7 call52.86 this53.1 tree53.74 hearing53.98 to55.18 order.55.42 This56.22 tree56.46 hearing56.78 is57.18 to57.5 consider57.74 the58.14 proposed58.3 removal58.78 of59.18 eight61.02 trees61.18 due61.66 to61.9 home62.14 construction.62.38 Just64.14 for64.38 the64.54 record,64.7 I65.58 did66.03 misidentify66.34 one67.06 tree,67.38 a68.19 5-inch68.42 American68.42 elm,69.31 it's69.55 actually69.55 a69.86 5-inch,70.83 Atlantis.71.78 So71.78 I72.02 just72.1 want72.34 to72.67 clear72.67 that72.91 up.73.06 This87.09 proposed87.25 removal87.57 of87.97 eight88.13 trees88.29 due88.61 to88.85 home88.93 construction89.17 includes89.65 290.93 Norway91.17 maples91.65 at92.05 5-inch92.45 diameter,92.69 393.25 Norway93.57 maples93.97 at94.37 4-inch94.77 diameter,95.01 195.57 Norway95.81 maple96.37 at96.69 3-inch97.09 diameter,97.34 198.62 ailanthus99.02 at99.81 5-inch100.22 diameter,100.53 and101.02 1101.17 elm101.58 at102.06 3-inch102.45 diameter.102.69 So104.3 at104.86 this105.09 point105.34 in105.58 time,105.81 I106.22 have106.45 received106.7 written107.26 objections.107.58 The109.26 written109.42 objections109.73 I110.62 have110.78 received111.2 are112.08 for112.32 the112.96 cluster113.2 of113.6 4113.76 to114 5-inch114.56 Norway115.12 maples,115.6 as117.2 well117.36 as117.68 the117.92 American118.24 Elm.118.8 The119.6 objection119.76 that120.32 I120.48 received120.56 did121.04 not121.28 include121.52 the121.84 Atlantis,123.97 that124.3 resident124.3 is124.77 not125.02 in125.17 the125.25 meeting125.41 at125.73 the125.81 moment,125.89 so126.69 they126.85 will127.09 not127.25 be127.49 able127.58 to127.81 change128.78 their129.09 objection.129.33 The130.69 other131.18 objection131.41 I131.89 received,132.06 is133.89 to134.38 keep138.28 the138.76 4139.08 to139.32 5-inch139.64 Norway139.96 Maples140.52 as141.24 well141.48 as141.64 the141.88 American142.04 Elm.142.52 There143.16 was143.4 no143.64 statement143.88 regarding144.44 the145.56 Atlantis145.64 in146.28 that146.52 as146.92 well.147.08 So,148.52 I148.76 have148.84 received149.08 two149.4 written149.64 objections150.62 considering151.09 the151.74 Norway151.97 Maples152.46 as152.94 well153.18 as153.42 the153.81 American154.14 Elm.154.62 With155.66 that155.9 in156.14 mind,156.29 do156.69 I156.86 have157.01 any157.25 objections157.58 in158.46 this158.69 meeting159.01 from160.62 any160.86 of161.09 the161.18 residents?161.25 Jeanne,161.74 I162.14 will162.22 start162.46 with162.69 you.162.86
164.11 GENIE164.11 -164.11 RESIDENT164.11 -164.11 Okay.164.11 Well,164.91 I'm169.23 not169.47 objecting169.87 to171.47 any171.63 of171.87 them,172.03 but172.67 one173.79 factor174.27 that174.75 nobody175.07 mentioned175.55 is176.43 what177.56 is179.08 being179.41 done179.65 about179.88 the180.28 sidewalk?180.28 Because181.41 that181.72 lot182.13 never182.76 had183.16 any183.56 sidewalk184.04 whatsoever.185 That's186.76 why187.25 those187.97 volunteer189.65 trees190.28 came190.76 in,192.94 and193.02 that's,193.02 I193.98 think,194.22 the194.46 deciding194.7 factor.195.26 I'd196.7 want197.02 to197.34 keep197.34 them197.5 too197.74 if198.3 the198.54 sidewalk198.86 wasn't199.5 going199.74 to200.06 go200.06 through,200.3 but201.02 that201.26 is201.42 so201.74 irregular.202.14 A203.66 street203.98 that204.62 you204.94 look205.18 to205.9 the206.78 property207.84 on208.41 one208.64 side208.88 and209.6 the209.84 sidewalk210.08 there,210.72 you211.84 look212.08 at212.32 the212.41 sidewalk212.56 on213.2 the213.36 other213.53 side213.84 and214.88 you215.36 can't215.6 draw215.92 a216.16 straight216.25 line216.56 between216.88 them,217.53 they217.69 don't217.69 match.218 So,219.6 it's219.76 an220 odd220.32 situation220.72 and222.08 I'd223.29 save223.61 them223.77 if224.09 we224.33 can,224.49 but226.41 I'd226.65 go226.89 with227.13 the227.45 sidewalk227.69 construction,228.49 whatever229.13 the230.33 city230.49 has230.89 decided231.21 to231.77 do231.93 about232.09 the232.57 sidewalk.232.57
233.69 MICIELI233.69 -233.69 Yes,233.69 I234.01 am234.17 honestly234.89 not235.45 sure235.69 regarding236.49 the236.89 sidewalk237.05 over237.53 there.237.69 As238.37 you238.53 stated,238.76 Key239.32 Street239.56 as239.97 a240.21 whole240.28 has240.69 some242.37 funky242.69 property243.41 lines.243.81 So,246.37 I247.97 am248.13 not248.37 sure248.69 what's249.41 going249.72 on249.97 with250.13 the250.28 sidewalk,250.37 so251.41 I'm252.12 not252.36 going252.52 to252.76 comment252.76 on253.24 that.253.4
256.28 GENIE256.28 -256.28 Well,256.68 I'd256.92 say257.16 save257.48 them257.8 if258.12 the258.36 sidewalk258.52 doesn't259.16 have259.56 to259.72 run259.88 right260.12 through,261.4 but263.16 sidewalk,264.04 I264.76 guess,264.84 takes265.16 priority.265.48
269.56 MICIELI269.56 -269.56 Okay.269.56 Donald,270.44 do271.31 you271.4 have271.48 any271.63 comments,271.88 objections,272.36 etcetera?273.07
274.51 DONALD274.51 MACDONALD274.51 -274.51 RESIDENT274.51 -274.51 I274.75 just275.07 get275.56 concerned275.8 with276.27 contractors.276.68 It277.63 sounds277.88 almost278.27 as278.68 if279.36 it's279.52 an279.64 indiscriminate,279.76 cutting.281.2
282.08 GENIE282.08 -282.08 Yes,283.12 sounds283.52 like283.52 the284 way284.08 it's284.4 stated.284.56
285.36 MACDONALD285.36 -285.36 It's285.68 kind285.92 of286.16 frightening,287.04 that's287.36 all.287.36 And,287.76 I289.04 depend289.68 upon290.08 you290.48 for290.8 a290.96 reasonable291.2 decision292.48 on292.96 this.293.2 In294.93 some295.09 of295.32 the295.4 writings295.56 that297.25 I297.49 read297.73 notice299.17 that299.56 the299.81 trees299.97 some300.85 were301.49 not301.49 in301.73 good301.88 shape.302.13 And,303.25 now304.85 as305.09 we305.32 just305.56 learned,305.88 there's306.37 a306.69 sidewalk306.85 situation.307.56 Was311.37 this311.61 in312.01 the312.17 proposal313.85 or314.33 is314.33 this314.33 is314.57 just314.65 a314.89 surprise315.13 now?315.77
318.81 GENIE318.81 -318.81 Well,318.81 the319.05 sidewalk319.21 situation319.69 is320.33 just320.57 my320.73 observation.321.05
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324.63 MACDONALD324.63 -324.63 Well,324.63 I324.63 just324.79 object325.11 to325.82 a326.38 whole326.55 range326.79 of327.11 indiscriminate327.5 cuttings,328.87 that's329.19 all.329.19 Someone329.75 coming330.23 in330.46 and330.71 saying,330.87 well,331.43 I've331.67 got331.82 to332.06 get332.06 rid332.23 of332.46 nine332.63 trees332.94 or333.26 something,335.19 especially335.9 trees336.46 that336.79 have337.5 been337.67 established337.9 regardless339.72 of340.36 whether340.52 they're340.84 volunteer341.16 trees341.72 or342.12 whatever.342.28 I344.92 looked345.56 down345.8 atbKeith346.68 Street347 the347.4 other347.56 day,347.8 and348.04 it350.28 looks350.52 almost350.84 it351.24 could351.4 be,351.64 like,351.88 classified352.7 as353.19 almost353.35 a353.66 heat353.82 island.354.14 So354.87 I355.35 wonder356.06 about,356.46 again,358.46 and359.35 I359.5 do359.66 object359.9 if360.38 it's360.63 just360.79 indiscriminate361.19 cutting.361.99
365.12 MICIELI365.12 -365.12 Okay.365.12 Thank366.8 you,367.12 Donald.368.4 Genie,374.16 do374.56 you374.64 have374.72 any374.88 comments?375.12
376 GENIE376 -376 Well,376 just376.56 that376.88 if377.6 the379.32 notice379.81 had380.69 been380.85 worded382.76 as383.25 cutting384.61 the385.4 trees385.73 due386.44 to386.69 sidewalk387.08 construction,387.96 that389.17 would389.4 have389.65 taken389.81 the390.13 heat390.29 off390.61 some.391
391.94 MICIELI391.94 -391.94 Yes.392.1 So,392.66 as392.66 far392.82 as393.06 I393.22 understand,393.3 it's393.7 not393.86 for394.1 sidewalk394.18 construction,394.74 but395.3 for395.54 actual396.9 frontage397.22 construction.397.78 What401.3 I've401.54 seen401.7 is401.94 it's403.14 a403.3 vacant403.38 lot403.78 to403.94 begin404.1 with.404.34 So,405.94 if407.08 we're407.25 picturing407.49 the407.96 lot,408.2 the408.85 home409.08 is409.25 moving409.4 to409.73 the409.88 right410.04 on410.29 the410.52 lot,410.69 and411.81 then411.96 they're412.2 producing412.6 the413.08 frontage.413.25 I'm413.73 not414.2 sure414.44 about414.6 the414.85 sidewalk,415 so415.49 I415.64 don't415.81 want415.96 to416.29 comment416.29 on416.69 any416.85 potential417 sidewalk.417.4 Keith419.25 Street419.49 is,419.81 like420.44 we420.6 said420.69 earlier,420.93 just421.72 weird,422.63 I422.79 guess,422.95 would423.19 be423.35 the423.43 best423.51 way423.75 to423.91 say425.35 it.425.35 So,425.35 from426.15 what426.39 I426.55 understand,426.79 there427.51 is427.83 going428.31 to428.63 be428.63 construction429.03 occurring429.59 on430.23 that430.39 frontage430.63 as431.11 well431.27 as431.51 on431.59 the431.75 side431.83 of432.07 the432.15 lot.432.31 As433.75 Donald433.99 pointed434.39 out,434.71 these435.19 trees435.43 are435.75 volunteers.435.91 Obviously,437.37 you437.76 know,437.93 we438.08 hate438.17 to438.4 see438.49 any438.64 trees438.88 lost439.93 in440.32 the440.49 construction440.73 process,441.29 but,444 unfortunately,444.49 it's445.76 part446.32 of446.56 the446.73 proposal,447.37 and447.69 as447.69 that448.17 is448.4 a448.56 requirement448.73 of449.2 my449.44 job,449.6 I449.93 have450.08 to450.25 host450.32 these450.63 tree450.79 hearings451.11 when451.67 shade452.55 trees452.71 are452.95 proposed453.11 for453.43 removal.453.59 So,455.11 just456.55 moving456.95 along.457.27 Jamie,457.99 do458.39 you458.47 have458.55 any458.71 comments?458.95
460.07 JAMIE460.07 GORDON460.07 -460.07 WATERTOWN460.39 HISTORICAL460.87 COMMISSION460.87 -460.87 Sorry,460.87 I460.87 accidentally461.35 hit462.07 end462.31 the462.55 meeting462.63 when462.87 I463.03 was463.11 trying463.27 to463.43 unmute463.59 myself.463.99 I465.33 just465.74 wanted465.89 to466.29 agree466.77 with468.13 everyone468.29 that's468.69 already468.94 spoken469.25 that,469.57 if470.77 there's471.01 any471.33 way471.57 to471.98 preserve472.21 these472.69 trees472.94 even473.25 if473.5 they473.65 are473.81 volunteer474.13 trees,474.62 Keith475.18 Street475.5 in475.81 particular475.98 does476.62 not476.77 have477.01 a477.18 lot477.25 of477.41 tree478.13 cover,478.38 and479.33 so479.57 you'd480.13 be480.83 starting481.07 from481.39 scratch.481.79 And482.35 I'm482.59 having482.83 a483.07 little483.23 trouble483.47 understanding483.87 why485.31 there485.55 can't485.79 be486.11 any486.27 sort486.51 of486.75 tree486.91 protection487.23 put487.63 into487.87 place488.11 for488.35 construction489.31 on489.95 a490.11 private490.43 lot490.99 when491.39 these491.55 are491.79 public492.03 shade492.59 trees.492.91
496.13 MICIELI496.13 -496.13 So,496.3 can497.9 you498.21 state498.54 that498.77 last499.01 part499.18 again?499.42 I'm499.57 a499.81 little499.9 confused500.06 with500.54 what500.69 you're500.86 saying.501.57
502.54 GORDON502.54 -502.54 So502.54 this502.77 is502.94 a503.1 public503.25 shade503.65 tree503.9 hearing.504.21 So,504.54 these504.77 are504.94 street505.18 trees505.5 that505.81 are506.06 healthy506.21 enough506.62 that507.01 they're507.25 not507.42 just507.65 being507.81 cut508.06 down,508.3 but509 the509.24 proposed509.4 construction510.04 is510.68 a510.84 private511.08 lot,512.04 correct?513
513 MICIELI513 -513 Yes.513 But513.48 the513.72 public514.04 shade514.44 trees514.76 are515.24 currently516.12 in518.76 conflict519 with519.48 the519.64 construction.519.8 So,520.84 construction521.16 occurring522.12 along522.68 that523 lot523.16 would523.48 damage523.72 these524.2 trees524.36 to525.38 a525.54 point525.62 where525.86 I526.1 don't526.25 believe526.5 that526.74 they526.89 would527.05 survive527.22 the527.54 construction527.7 process.528.18 So,528.98 you530.1 might530.25 not530.42 have530.65 been531.05 on531.3 the531.38 call....531.46
531.7 GORDON531.7 -531.7 No,532.1 I532.42 did532.65 hear532.82 that533.05 part,533.22 but533.46 what533.62 I'm533.7 saying533.86 is534.1 the534.25 contractor535.54 in536.1 question536.34 or536.82 the536.98 developer537.13 in537.7 question,537.86 they're539.24 saying539.56 you540.6 don't540.84 see541.08 or541.4 they541.64 don't541.8 see542.04 any542.28 way542.6 to543 modify543.88 their544.44 plans544.68 in545.08 such545.16 a545.32 way545.48 to545.72 allow546.04 these546.28 trees546.6 to546.92 be547.08 preserved.547.48
548.76 MICIELI548.76 -548.76 No.548.76 So,549.56 I549.88 just550.04 want550.2 to550.44 clarify550.44 something550.92 as551.24 well.551.4 Keith551.64 Street551.88 doesn't552.12 have552.44 an552.68 established552.76 sidewalk.553.24 This554.65 section554.89 of555.13 Keith555.38 Street555.62 is556.01 road,556.25 then557.29 the557.62 public557.7 right558.1 of558.33 way.558.41 So559.05 the559.29 asphalt559.53 ends,560.41 there's560.74 a560.74 strip561.05 of561.53 bushes562.33 and562.82 these563.13 trees563.46 that563.7 we're563.86 describing,565.21 and565.38 then565.38 right566.41 behind566.65 that566.98 is567.21 the567.38 property567.53 line567.93 for568.17 this568.33 address.568.5 So,569.19 there's569.35 no569.59 established569.83 sidewalk,570.71 this570.95 isn't570.95 like571.19 a571.43 regular571.59 situation572.31 where572.87 we573.11 have574.07 a574.23 grass574.39 strip574.71 and574.95 a575.03 tree,575.19 sidewalk,575.59 and575.99 then576.15 property.576.31 This577.35 is577.51 street,577.99 trees,579.19 property579.91 line,580.39 and580.71 then580.95 the581.11 property.581.27 So,583.82 this583.98 isn't583.98 a584.29 situation584.46 where584.86 the585.1 tree585.25 is586.29 30586.62 feet586.93 off587.25 the587.42 construction587.58 process,588.62 they588.86 are588.86 right589.01 up589.25 against589.42 the589.74 property589.89 line590.38 on590.86 this591.01 construction.591.25 I595.5 hope595.58 that595.82 helps596.13 clarify596.46 things596.93 a597.17 little597.34 bit.597.58
598.4 GORDON598.4 -598.4 It598.4 does598.56 clarify598.8 a599.28 little599.44 bit,599.52 but599.76 these600.4 trees600.72 have601.04 been601.2 able601.36 to601.76 grow602.08 and602.48 presumably602.72 be603.28 healthy603.52 enough604 to604.4 survive.604.64 So,605.68 my607.2 question607.44 would607.76 be,608.72 if609.28 you609.44 do609.76 get610 cut610.24 down,610.56 is611.52 Keith611.85 Street612.16 just612.4 going612.64 to612.88 remain613.13 this613.52 heat613.85 island614.16 with614.73 no615.04 tree615.29 cover,615.61 or616 is616.25 there616.49 going616.73 to617.04 be617.13 work617.85 done618.16 to618.73 replace619.04 these619.61 volunteer619.92 trees?620.49 Also,621.29 is621.61 it621.76 going621.92 to622.16 be622.25 something622.4 that623.29 the623.76 city623.92 is624.33 asking624.49 because624.97 this625.45 private626.34 development626.66 is627.22 taking627.38 out627.7 these627.86 public628.1 trees?628.58
630.58 MICIELI630.58 -630.58 Yes,630.9 that's631.22 something631.46 I'm631.86 going632.1 to632.34 work632.42 out632.66 with632.74 the632.9 contractor,633.14 regarding634.5 this635.06 hearing635.22 specifically.635.62 So636.42 I636.82 just637.14 don't637.46 want637.7 to637.94 comment637.94 on638.58 that638.74 at638.9 the639.14 moment.639.22
641.25 GENIE641.25 -641.25 Mike,642.05 the643.98 construction644.22 fence645.01 is646.13 well646.46 inside647.01 the649.25 lot649.58 clear650.93 of651.34 the651.5 patch651.74 of651.98 trees.652.22 I653.25 don't653.41 know653.65 if653.89 that654.13 has654.54 anything654.86 to655.41 do655.58 with655.82 it,656.05 with657.32 the657.48 construction657.72 plans.658.44
661 MICIELI661 -661 Yes.661.32 So,661.56 it's661.56 like662.36 I662.52 said662.68 earlier,662.84 the663.32 house663.48 is663.72 where664.36 the664.6 house664.68 previously665 existed665.56 was666.2 on666.52 the666.68 left-hand667 side667.16 of667.4 the667.48 lot.667.56 The668.52 house668.68 has668.92 since669.88 been670.13 demolished,670.37 and671.49 the671.88 new672.05 construction672.29 will672.76 be673 centered673.4 or674.61 more675 to675.4 the675.57 right675.64 of676.05 where676.21 that676.52 previous676.76 home677.33 or677.57 structure677.8 was.678.29 So,679.25 as679.49 a679.64 result679.8 of680.13 that,680.29 they680.68 are680.93 essentially681.97 excavating,682.85 they're684.21 constructing685.17 a685.57 whole685.65 new685.89 home.686.13 So,686.85 these687.01 trees687.25 are687.73 going688.05 to688.37 be688.45 impacted688.85 by689.49 that689.65 construction.689.89 That's691.41 why691.73 they691.89 are692.13 being692.29 proposed692.45 for692.85 removal.693.01 That's,694.13 again,694.69 why695.09 we're695.33 hosting695.49 this695.89 hearing,696.37 it's697.1 part697.1 of697.25 my697.41 job697.5 requirement.697.74 I698.77 mean,698.86 realistically,699.1 at699.65 this699.81 point,699.98 I've700.21 already700.38 received700.69 written700.93 objections,701.89 the702.13 two702.13 written702.13 objections702.38 I've702.77 received,702.93 the703.57 residents703.98 are704.38 not704.62 here704.77 to705.74 possibly706.29 withdraw706.77 their707.25 objections.708.13 So709.5 this709.65 is709.81 going709.89 to710.21 go710.21 to710.38 the710.45 city710.62 manager's710.86 office711.33 regardless.711.74
715.64 GENIE715.64 -715.64 Yes.716.52 But718.44 the718.44 thing718.68 that718.84 was720.2 through720.84 my721.08 mind721.32 is721.96 that722.2 if722.76 a723.96 sidewalk724.84 is725.4 going725.56 to725.8 be725.96 constructed,726.12 that727.88 may728.2 go728.51 right728.84 through729.15 at730.2 least730.36 half730.75 of731.08 the731.24 space731.48 where732.04 the732.27 patch733.24 of733.55 Maples733.88 is.734.84 So,736.51 that737 would737.24 really737.48 be737.8 the737.96 deciding738.36 factor738.92 in739.63 my739.8 mind,740.04 and741 you741.24 may741.4 need741.64 to741.88 discuss742.04 that742.44 with742.68 your742.84 city743 manager.743.32
744.28 MICIELI744.28 -744.28 Yes,746.52 and746.84 I746.84 have747 to747.16 discuss747.32 that747.64 with747.8 the748.04 contractor748.2 as748.6 well.748.76 I750.44 didn't750.6 see751 it751.24 on751.48 the751.64 preliminary751.8 plans,752.76 if753.16 I753.4 remember753.48 correctly.753.96 I756.08 will756.24 have756.39 to756.55 take756.63 another756.88 look757.27 at757.51 it.757.6 Things757.84 have758.08 been758.96 rather759.2 busy759.43 here759.75 lately.760 Nicole,761.75 do762.15 you762.32 have762.39 any762.48 comments?762.72
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