Watertown Committee on Economic Development and Planning
Monday September 15, 2025
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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SPEAKER115.7 -15.7 My15.7 committee16.02 members16.89 feel18.02 ready18.5 to18.98 join19.54 the21.21 meeting.21.45 Welcome.22.34 22.82 LISA22.82 FELTNER22.82 -22.82 ECONOMIC22.82 DEVELOPMENT22.82 AND22.82 PLANNING22.82 COMMITTEE22.82 CHAIR22.82 -22.82 So22.82 it's23.14 4:0423.38 PM,26.17 and26.17 this27.21 is27.45 a27.61 committee27.69 on28.09 economic28.41 development28.81 and29.29 planning,29.45 and29.85 we30.01 are30.17 meeting30.33 at30.65 four32.57 o'clock33.21 today33.21 instead33.53 of33.85 usually34.01 after34.65 5.36.01 The36.81 president37.05 is37.61 here37.77 and38.09 can38.25 speak38.49 to38.65 that38.89 a39.37 little39.53 bit.39.69 And39.93 also,40.09 if42.77 it's42.77 okay43.02 with43.34 my43.5 colleagues,43.66 I'd44.05 like44.22 to44.45 start44.7 by44.94 recognizing45.18 President46.45 Sideris.47.02 It47.02 was47.09 the48.38 referral48.62 at49.09 recent49.82 council50.38 committee51.02 that51.5 he52.45 brought52.7 forward.52.94 SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
54.94 So,54.94 oh.56.4 0,58.24 sure.58.48 Yes.60.08 60.4 FELTNER60.4 -60.4 So60.4 4:04.60.64 I'm61.36 Lisa61.6 Feltner,61.92 chair62.4 of62.64 the63.16 committee64.8 on65.2 economic65.52 development66.08 and67.28 planning,67.6 and68.24 vice68.48 chair68.88 is69.36 Councilor69.52 Gannon,70.08 John70.64 Gannon,70.96 and71.92 Vincent72.16 Piccirilli72.56 serving73.28 as73.83 secretary.74.16 And76.16 we76.47 are76.72 all76.95 in77.44 the77.76 council78 chamber78.4 and78.72 we78.95 do79.11 have79.19 a80 few80.08 people80.23 on80.64 Zoom,80.88 so81.11 welcome,81.36 and81.76 a81.92 few82 people82.23 in82.56 the82.8 chamber.83.76 And85.11 I85.35 could85.59 ask85.91 cable86.55 operator87.35 to87.75 please87.91 turn88.23 on88.47 closed88.55 captioning.89.19 Thank89.83 you.90.07 So94.39 President95.19 Sideris,95.67 is95.67 that95.75 alright95.91 with96.39 you96.55 to96.71 open97.91 the98.15 meeting98.31 with98.63 you?99.35 103.97 MARK103.97 SIDERIS103.97 -103.97 CITY103.97 COUNCIL103.97 PRESIDENT103.97 -103.97 First,103.97 I104.3 want104.45 to104.69 address104.78 the105.09 four105.97 o'clock107.81 issue107.81 because107.81 it108.22 was108.3 brought108.53 to108.78 our109.33 attention.109.49 We109.89 all110.13 got110.3 an110.45 email,110.61 and111.25 I111.42 think111.58 you111.73 all111.97 saw112.13 my112.38 response.112.61 Under114.15 the114.55 council114.95 rules,115.43 we115.83 do116.07 have116.31 an116.55 opportunity116.71 to117.51 chat117.99 with118.31 the118.47 president118.63 and119.59 get119.75 permission119.99 to120.47 have120.63 a120.79 meeting.120.87 And121.19 the121.35 reason121.43 I121.83 gave121.91 permission122.15 for123.03 a123.43 four123.51 o'clock124.07 meeting124.07 this124.39 evening124.63 because124.95 I125.35 thought125.51 that125.67 if125.91 this126.15 committee126.31 could127.2 do127.44 their127.52 work127.76 and128 come128.16 up128.31 with128.47 a128.64 recommendation,128.88 we129.44 could129.68 place129.84 it130.07 on130.24 the130.4 agenda130.56 for131.36 next131.51 week,131.84 which132.07 has132.31 to132.56 be132.64 in132.79 by132.96 Thursday133.19 at133.59 five133.84 o'clock.134.88 So134.88 thus,135.12 the135.92 permission136.24 to136.79 have136.96 the137.12 meeting137.19 at137.51 four137.68 o'clock,138.56 because138.56 I138.88 feel138.96 what139.19 was139.44 referred139.59 here140 this140.65 evening140.89 is141.45 an141.93 important142.17 topic.142.65 Just143.69 for144.01 background,144.25 the145.29 reason145.77 we're146.01 here146.25 tonight146.49 is146.89 to147.13 look147.37 at147.61 the147.77 community148.65 notice149.37 requirement149.77 on150.73 some151.13 of151.29 these151.45 developments151.77 that152.41 have152.57 come152.81 forward152.97 and153.29 are153.45 coming153.61 forward.153.93 155.07 Many155.07 years155.39 ago,155.63 we156.03 were156.28 all156.44 campaigning.156.67 We157.16 heard157.31 about157.63 how157.96 nobody158.11 gets158.51 notified.158.75 I159.72 referred159.88 to160.28 committee160.51 and161.07 this161.31 committee161.47 came161.88 up162.11 with164.35 recommendations.164.51 And164.51 the164.51 council164.75 adopted,165.31 unanimously,166.91 how168.92 we169.08 move169.24 forward169.48 with169.8 notifications170.12 to170.76 the170.92 district171.08 councilor,171.4 to172.44 the172.92 neighbors.173.16 And174.12 then174.36 subsequent174.76 to175.24 that,175.4 a175.64 couple175.8 years176.12 later,176.44 we177.24 found177.48 that177.8 the177.96 neighborhood178.12 wasn't178.68 getting179 notified179.4 enough,179.88 so180.28 we180.44 rereferred181 it181.32 back181.56 to181.72 committee.181.88 The182.71 committee182.78 came183.1 up183.34 with183.5 another183.75 new184.15 way184.47 of185.34 noticing185.5 the186.38 abutters186.63 and187.26 added187.59 feet187.99 and188.38 added188.71 some189.03 more189.19 issues.190.63 So,191.91 what192.15 I'm192.31 here192.47 tonight192.71 is,193.1 this193.59 afternoon,193.91 is194.47 the194.63 fact194.78 that195.1 we196.47 had196.63 one197.75 item199 placed199.32 on199.72 the199.96 historical200.2 commission202.36 agenda202.92 for203.4 demolition204.28 delay204.92 review,205.56 and206.52 there206.76 was207 another207.16 one207.48 going207.8 to208.04 be208.28 placed208.52 on208.84 that209 agenda.209.32 And210.2 I210.52 felt210.68 that,211.08 and212.11 I'm212.26 gonna212.34 use212.67 my212.91 own213.22 words,213.39 this213.78 was213.94 an214.19 end214.43 around214.67 around214.99 the215.22 process215.47 that215.87 the216.03 city216.26 council216.5 came217.31 up217.54 with217.71 for217.94 notification,218.19 in218.82 particular219.06 of219.54 the219.71 elected219.87 officials.220.34 221.47 And221.47 this221.71 was221.94 a222.34 little222.43 more222.67 troubling222.91 for223.31 me223.54 as223.71 well223.87 because224.03 I224.34 get224.43 a224.59 call224.67 from224.91 a225.15 current225.47 firefighter225.87 in226.35 the226.51 community226.75 who227.23 lives228.75 in229.07 the229.23 Washburn229.39 Street229.87 area230.19 who230.51 said,230.67 what230.91 are231.07 we231.23 doing231.31 here?231.63 What232.27 are232.51 they232.59 asking233.31 for?233.71 So,234.03 I'm234.83 here234.99 this235.87 afternoon236.11 to236.59 request236.75 the237.15 committee237.31 in238.19 discussion238.43 with238.99 the239.15 staff,239.31 find240.44 a240.69 way240.72 to240.76 strengthen241.25 even241.97 further242.21 the242.76 notification242.93 requirements.243.81 Not244.44 in244.61 particular.244.76 We're245.17 doing245.41 a245.65 pretty245.81 good246.04 job246.21 notifying247 abutters248.84 500249.32 feet249.81 within250.44 the250.76 area.250.93 I251.25 think251.32 that252.21 doing252.28 a252.53 better252.61 job252.92 of253.24 communicating253.32 with253.88 number254.12 1,254.36 the254.6 elected254.76 officials,255.16 and255.56 number255.72 2,256.04 what256.84 is257.08 the257.24 intent257.48 here?257.88 You258.76 know,258.92 let's259.4 go260.6 to260.76 the260.84 historic261.08 commission,261.48 get261.88 a262.04 delay,262.2 and262.36 then262.52 we'll262.68 figure262.92 out263.16 what263.32 we're263.48 gonna263.64 do263.88 later.263.96 I264.52 don't264.68 think265.4 that265.64 that's265.8 how266.04 it266.28 should266.44 be266.6 working,266.76 so267.39 I'm267.48 looking267.71 forward267.96 to268.27 the268.44 discussion.268.6 And269 if269.15 you269.31 can269.48 come269.63 up269.8 with269.88 something,270.04 we270.44 will270.51 place270.75 it271 on271.15 the271.31 agenda271.48 for272.12 next272.27 Tuesday272.6 evening.273 Thank273.31 you273.48 for273.63 allowing273.8 me274.19 to274.36 speak.274.51 275.63 FELTNER275.63 -275.63 Thank275.63 you,275.96 Mr.276.51 President.277.31 So277.31 again,277.56 the277.88 purpose278.12 tonight278.51 is278.83 to278.92 discuss279.07 and279.31 make279.48 recommendations279.71 for280.36 strengthening280.6 the281.15 community281.31 notice281.8 requirements282.19 on282.68 upcoming283.17 projects,284.09 including285.01 demolition286.21 applications.286.61 I287.41 turn287.65 to287.73 my287.81 colleagues287.89 first,288.29 and290.21 ask,290.45 do290.69 you291.33 have291.57 any291.89 questions291.97 at292.33 the292.69 outset292.85 before293.65 we294.13 turn294.53 over294.61 to294.85 staff295.17 presentation?295.57 296.69 JOHN296.69 GANNON296.69 -296.69 ECONOMIC296.69 DEVELOPMENT296.69 AND296.69 PLANNING296.69 COMMITTEE296.69 MEMBER296.69 -296.69 Sure.296.69 One300.18 thing300.74 Council300.74 President300.74 Sideris300.74 had300.74 spoken300.89 about301.21 the301.45 Washburn301.62 property.302.65 So303.21 I303.86 went304.01 to304.25 that304.42 meeting,304.57 along304.98 with305.21 most305.86 of306.1 the306.25 council,306.42 and307.3 the307.54 meeting307.77 space308.18 itself308.5 was309.06 woefully309.62 inadequate310.65 for311.3 the311.45 number311.62 of311.86 people311.94 who312.18 attended.312.42 So,312.98 part313.81 of313.97 the314.13 notice,314.29 I314.77 would314.93 like315.25 to315.41 have315.57 developers315.89 provide317.57 notice318.13 of318.53 the318.77 location,319.65 and321.17 maybe321.17 someone321.57 could321.97 approve322.21 whether322.61 that323.33 is323.65 too323.89 small324.13 a324.45 location324.53 for325.01 the325.25 number326.23 of326.55 people.326.63 But326.94 that327.75 small328.55 location330.38 prevented331.19 the331.19 robust332.15 public332.63 hearing333.02 that333.35 the333.5 process333.59 could334.06 have334.23 engendered.334.38 A334.75 lot335.11 of335.35 people335.43 were335.67 leaving.335.82 So336.15 I'd336.31 like336.46 perhaps336.94 that337.43 to337.67 be337.75 part338.15 of338.38 consideration338.63 for339.35 the339.59 developer339.75 notice340.23 meetings.340.55 Thank341.08 you.341.24 SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
341.92 SPEAKER1341.92 -341.92 Okay.341.92 Councilor342.6 Piccirilli,343.08 do344.2 you344.36 have344.52 any344.6 comments344.84 before345.24 we345.36 No.345.8 345.96 VINCENT345.96 PICCIRILLI345.96 -345.96 ECONOMIC345.96 DEVELOPMENT345.96 AND345.96 PLANNING345.96 COMMITTEE345.96 MEMBER345.96 -345.96 No345.96 comments.346.12 I346.6 did,346.76 you347.16 know,347.32 the347.48 section347.64 of349.56 the349.72 zoning350.04 ordinance,350.36 9.02a353.24 discusses354.04 specifically354.94 community355.66 meetings356.06 and356.38 the356.63 notifications.356.87 So357.5 that's357.75 sort358.63 of358.78 our358.94 starting359.19 point,359.5 if359.75 we359.9 wanna,359.99 and360.63 I360.78 guess360.87 we361.02 have361.19 to361.43 decide361.5 do361.82 we361.9 wanna361.99 change363.66 the364.06 zoning364.31 ordinance?364.7 Or365.5 the367.29 last367.53 time367.69 we367.77 met368.73 on368.97 this369.29 topic,369.45 on370.09 March370.65 2023,371.61 which372.57 is372.81 the373.05 second373.21 referral373.61 the374.01 council374.17 president374.49 mentioned,375.21 we377.05 talked377.37 about377.69 sort378.09 of378.33 how378.73 the379.77 wording379.93 of380.33 the380.49 ordinance380.57 would381.05 be381.21 implemented,382.01 but383.01 we383.18 didn't383.33 actually383.57 change383.89 any384.21 of384.45 the384.54 wording384.62 of384.94 the385.18 ordinance385.33 back385.81 in386.06 2023.386.38 So,387.81 just388.29 so388.45 people388.62 can389.01 refer389.65 to390.45 those390.86 two391.1 things391.33 as391.65 sort391.81 of,391.98 our392.77 starting393.01 line.393.65 394.86 FELTNER394.86 -394.86 Okay.394.86 Great.395.33 And396.47 also396.63 I'll396.87 just396.95 notice397.19 that397.51 we397.75 did397.99 receive399.91 two400.23 emails,400.23 I400.71 believe,400.79 and401.03 those401.19 will401.51 be401.75 attached401.99 to402.47 the402.63 committee403.35 minutes.404.31 We're404.63 not404.79 gonna404.95 read405.19 those405.35 at405.67 this405.83 time.405.99 You408.43 have408.67 one408.82 other408.99 thing409.31 you409.55 want409.63 to409.75 say409.87 before410.11 we410.43 410.67 GANNON410.67 -410.67 Just410.67 a410.82 follow-up410.99 to411.55 Councilor411.94 Piccirilli's412.67 comments.412.67 So,413.06 we414.11 did,414.35 at414.5 that414.67 time,414.82 expand415.87 the416.35 number416.43 of416.75 recipients416.9 of417.7 postcards417.79 beyond418.82 the419.06 statutorily419.38 required420.19 notices422.22 beyond423.02 those423.9 who424.22 weren't424.38 statutorily425.66 required426.22 under426.62 general427.58 law427.9 Chapter427.9 48427.9 to428.38 receive428.46 the428.94 notice.429.1 We429.66 wanted429.9 to430.22 increase430.78 that431.18 pool431.42 of431.74 local432.3 residents433.34 close433.9 to434.14 projects434.22 who434.7 are434.78 notified434.86 as435.42 well.435.58 436.3 PICCIRILLI436.3 -436.3 Right.436.3 437.88 FELTNER437.88 -437.88 Okay.437.88 Great.437.88 So,438.04 Steve439 Magoon439.4 couldn't439.8 be439.96 here440.04 with440.27 us440.36 tonight,440.6 just440.83 in441 case441.07 those441.24 of441.48 you441.56 who441.68 are441.8 watching442.36 or442.68 watch442.75 the443 recording443.15 later,443.48 but443.71 we443.88 have443.96 the444.12 director444.19 of444.51 planning444.6 and444.92 zoning445 here,445.24 Gideon445.48 Schreiber,445.96 who446.36 was,446.51 involved447.4 in447.88 all448.04 these448.19 meetings.448.51 And449.07 so,450.12 he's450.92 gonna451.24 give451.48 us451.72 a451.96 quick452.12 overview453.32 of454.04 the454.2 process454.44 now.455.88 And456.04 I456.04 asked456.28 to456.84 explain457.32 process458.84 for459.32 projects460.28 that460.76 are461.08 going,461.32 how463.52 traditionally464.04 we464.6 do464.76 it464.93 when465.08 someone465.32 submits465.81 an466.2 application466.37 for467.08 planning467.49 board468.04 and468.37 or468.6 zoning,468.76 if469.17 zoning469.32 is469.64 also469.73 required,470.04 versus,471.88 and473 how473.49 that473.73 affects473.88 the474.29 demolition474.37 delay,474.93 versus475.88 what's476.2 been476.28 happening476.52 recently.478.12 And478.36 the478.36 difference478.44 between478.76 notifications480.6 that481.56 are481.8 mailed482.12 and482.68 email483 notices483.4 and484.2 what485.88 we486.12 might486.28 call486.52 public486.76 notices487.24 that487.8 have488.12 to488.28 go488.44 into488.68 legal489.4 newspaper.489.8 So,491.15 Mr.491.63 Schreiber,491.63 thank492.11 you.492.43 493.79 GIDEON493.79 SCHREIBER493.79 -493.79 CITY493.79 OF493.79 WATERTOWN493.79 -493.79 Thank493.79 you.494.02 Thanks494.82 for495.15 having495.31 us.495.63 Erica495.94 is497.06 also497.23 here,497.87 so498.11 if498.11 there's498.19 any498.43 questions498.67 in499.15 regard499.87 to500.19 other500.35 pieces500.59 of500.9 it,500.99 but501.31 I'm501.55 gonna501.71 take502.02 the502.26 lead502.35 on502.59 this.502.67 I503.5 think503.58 the503.98 first504.06 step504.78 of505.02 this505.18 is505.5 to505.66 make505.74 sure505.9 that506.06 we're506.22 separating506.46 the507.74 conversation508.06 around508.7 zoning509.02 and510.06 the510.62 demolition510.86 delay511.42 process,511.82 just512.62 from513.02 the513.42 discussion513.58 period.514.06 So,515.42 many516.86 different517.17 types517.42 of517.65 projects517.82 have518.13 a518.38 demolition518.46 delay518.93 requirement520.13 as520.86 part521.01 of521.17 a521.5 permit521.82 if522.29 they're522.62 requesting522.93 a523.25 demolition.523.42 And524.29 so524.46 I524.7 think524.77 the524.93 two525.1 projects525.34 that525.82 were526.22 raised527.42 that528.22 were528.46 on528.62 the528.77 historical530.41 commission,531.61 the532.73 noticing532.97 aspects533.61 were534.01 tied534.41 to534.65 the534.81 demolition534.97 ordinance535.61 and536.57 not537.13 to537.45 the537.69 zoning537.93 ordinance,538.49 and538.97 the539.13 expanded540.17 noticing540.73 that541.45 we541.69 have541.85 in542.71 play542.95 for543.36 projects543.91 as544.32 they544.48 go544.63 through544.88 the545.03 planning545.43 board545.75 and545.91 zoning546 board546.32 process.546.55 548.07 FELTNER548.07 -548.07 And548.07 just548.32 to548.63 clarify,548.79 the549.19 expanded549.36 notice549.83 is550.39 for550.71 planning551.43 board551.83 and552.07 zoning.552.32 We552.63 don't552.71 have552.95 an553.12 expanded553.36 500553.91 foot555.19 abutters555.67 for555.67 demolition555.91 delay,557.19 correct,557.43 just557.43 a557.43 300,558.47 right?558.79 558.79 SCHREIBER558.79 -558.79 No.558.79 The558.79 demolition558.87 delay559.35 ordinance559.67 is560.31 triggered561.43 by,561.83 you562.47 know,562.55 a562.79 request562.87 through563.27 the563.43 inspectional564.39 services565.19 division565.75 for566.39 a566.63 official,566.87 you567.27 know,567.35 a567.67 permit,567.75 which568.15 is568.39 a568.55 by568.63 right568.87 process.569.11 And570.15 it570.31 has570.47 this570.63 demolition570.79 delay571.35 ordinance571.67 hearing572.39 requirement573.03 for573.67 structures574.52 that575 are575.16 50575.33 years575.57 or575.73 older.575.88 So577.16 these577.73 two578.76 buildings580.61 or580.61 projects581.16 are581.57 tied581.8 to582.21 larger582.92 processes584.04 that585.4 have586.04 not586.37 started586.68 their587.4 process587.73 through588.76 the589.09 pre590.46 application590.78 at591.34 the,591.5 coordinated595.66 with596.06 the596.22 district596.94 councilor597.34 as598.7 it's598.86 going599.1 through599.26 the599.42 planning599.58 and599.9 zoning600.06 process.600.46 So601.58 they602.3 both602.7 were603.34 asking603.74 for604.22 demolitions606.55 of607.6 buildings608.15 on609.6 one609.84 parcel610.15 within610.48 a610.88 site.610.96 Or612.72 perhaps615.2 not615.84 even616 a616.24 site616.32 depending616.63 on616.96 which617.12 project617.36 we're617.67 talking617.91 about.618.24 I619.75 don't619.91 wanna620.15 get620.31 into620.47 the620.63 details620.87 of621.19 those621.27 two621.67 projects621.91 and622.95 or,623.59 you623.83 know,623.99 there's624.07 not624.71 a624.95 actual625.03 submittal.626.15 But626.31 I626.31 did626.47 wanna626.63 make626.87 sure627.03 that627.19 we627.43 started627.91 the628.23 conversation628.39 by629.11 talking629.35 about,629.67 larger631.73 scale631.96 projects632.37 as632.92 they're633.16 going633.33 through633.57 demolition633.8 delay634.85 review,635.16 versus636.13 for637.73 component637.88 parts,638.45 versus638.92 the639.4 planning639.96 and640.28 zoning640.45 process640.85 for641.4 noticing642.52 of643.08 projects,643.33 which644.13 is644.37 discussing644.53 what's644.93 being645.25 proposed645.57 in645.97 the646.13 future646.29 planning647.89 board648.21 or648.45 zoning648.61 board648.93 use649.17 of649.33 a649.53 approval649.97 process651.09 for651.65 a651.81 site.651.97 652.93 So652.93 I653.17 think653.25 with654.37 these654.61 two654.93 projects,655.25 just655.73 to655.89 use656.05 them656.21 as656.37 examples,656.61 one657.41 of657.65 them657.81 has658.05 a658.98 adjacent659.22 parcel660.42 that660.89 had661.05 a664.17 historically665.62 dated665.62 house666.1 on666.74 it666.89 that667.22 has667.54 been667.77 requested668.01 to668.5 be668.58 demolished668.82 in669.46 order669.7 to669.93 create,670.1 for671.1 lack671.34 of671.58 a671.7 better671.82 term,672.46 a672.94 access673.9 road674.62 or675.1 an675.34 extension675.42 of676.62 a676.78 roadway676.94 into677.58 a677.82 site.677.98 It's679.74 not679.98 about680.14 the680.38 site,680.86 it's681.1 not681.1 about681.26 the681.5 project681.58 that's681.98 being682.22 proposed.682.54 It's683.41 about683.65 that685.17 house's685.25 location685.65 on686.13 a686.38 property686.53 and686.86 whether687.1 a,688.45 basically,689.41 a689.98 private690.05 way690.38 would690.62 be690.86 a,691.01 that's691.74 the691.98 proposed692.13 use692.62 for692.86 that692.93 particular693.74 hearing.694.45 So,697.05 would697.85 you698.09 like698.17 me698.41 to698.57 get698.65 into698.81 the699.13 historic699.21 commission's701.69 process702.25 first,702.89 or703.21 do703.37 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