Watertown Community Meeting: 72. Mt Auburn St
Tuesday September 16, 2025
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
TERRY15.13 MORRIS15.13 -15.13 LAW15.13 OFFICE15.13 OF15.13 TERRENCE15.13 P15.13 MORRIS15.13 -15.13 Well,15.13 I15.38 think,15.46 I15.86 see15.94 the16.1 clock16.26 set16.5 at16.82 216.98 minutes17.14 after17.38 6.17.77 I'm18.26 ready19.38 to19.77 begin19.86 on20.1 medium.20.18 First20.57 of20.82 all,20.89 we're21.05 gonna21.21 thank21.38 you21.61 all22.26 the22.41 others22.57 who've22.82 come23.05 this23.3 evening.23.54 The25.98 promise26.14 we26.54 share26.7 the26.94 plans27.1 for28.14 7228.46 Mount29.26 Auburn29.74 Street.29.74 I29.74 guess29.82 we'll30.06 wait30.22 a30.54 few30.62 more30.78 people31.34 from31.58 then31.9 proceeding.32.86 For35.66 the35.9 record,35.98 my36.22 name36.38 is36.54 Terry36.7 Morris.37.02 I'm37.34 an37.58 attorney37.74 with38.76 an38.84 office38.91 at39.08 5739.48 Elm39.95 Road.41.08 I'm41.32 here41.32 presenting41.32 the41.88 owner42.03 of42.27 the42.35 property,42.44 Mr.42.84 Peter43.23 Lee,43.48 who's43.72 here43.88 tonight.44.35 And45.8 with46.12 me46.35 is46.68 part47.16 of47.32 our47.48 key47.8 part48.03 of48.27 our,48.44 you48.84 know,48.91 development49.32 team,49.8 our50.12 architect,50.35 Bennie51.99 Ber.52.23 We'll52.23 be52.55 actually52.71 going53.03 through53.35 the54.55 presentation55.19 to56.39 explain56.55 to56.95 you57.03 how57.19 we57.43 got57.59 to57.83 this57.99 point.58.23 Just60.95 by61.19 way61.35 of61.51 introduction,61.67 this62.23 property62.47 is62.95 located63.11 for63.51 many63.67 of63.91 you63.99 who64.23 don't64.39 know64.63 zoning65.37 district.65.69 It's66.08 in66.33 the66.48 Watertown66.56 Square67.2 267.61 zoning68.25 district,68.72 which69.44 has69.69 this71.69 particular71.92 objectives72.41 why73.05 the73.28 property,73.44 why74.01 that74.17 district74.56 was75.05 created.75.28 And76.41 it77.59 was77.83 created77.99 actually78.39 to78.79 achieve80.23 a80.43 certain80.63 amount80.95 of81.19 goals81.27 that81.67 are81.91 set82.07 forth82.31 in82.63 the82.79 comprehensive82.95 plan.83.59 Among84.71 those85.03 goals85.27 are85.59 to85.83 create85.91 lively86.31 public86.79 spaces.87.19
88.15 And88.15 then88.31 as88.55 you88.71 will88.87 see89.03 when89.27 we89.43 present89.67 our91.61 plans,91.84 that92.97 is93.2 the93.53 way93.69 we're93.92 doing94.08 that,94.33 is94.56 actually94.72 to95.05 provide95.2 you95.61 with95.77 the95.92 elements96.08 in96.48 the96.65 site96.72 plan96.97 in97.2 here.97.36 There's98.08 gonna98.33 be98.56 the98.72 establishment98.89 of99.44 a99.61 1299.77 foot100.08 wide100.48 sidewalk101.05 that102.17 allows102.65 more103.13 lively103.77 use104.33 of104.56 the104.72 sidewalk104.81 than105.82 is106.06 ordinarily106.94 occasioned108.14 in108.54 sidewalks108.94 that109.5 are109.66 only109.74 5109.9 to110.14 7110.22 feet110.54 wide.110.78 But112.78 we're113.02 not113.18 limited113.42 simply114.06 to114.46 site114.62 planning114.86 characteristics.115.34 We116.38 are116.62 creating116.78 significant117.34 amount117.74 of117.98 open118.14 space118.38 that118.7 does118.86 not119.02 exist119.18 in119.58 the119.82 property119.9 now.120.3 But,123.85 also128.09 the128.41 idea128.57 is128.89 to128.97 make129.13 this129.29 a129.53 destination129.69 point.130.41 You130.74 will130.89 see131.06 that131.38 the132.33 essence132.5 of132.89 the132.97 project133.13 is,133.61 or133.85 the134.01 central134.18 part134.5 of,134.74 the134.88 key135.11 part135.27 of135.43 this135.51 project135.75 is136.15 the136.31 existing136.79 wood137.75 frame137.99 building139.27 that139.67 was139.75 originally139.99 built140.39 as140.71 a140.87 single141.03 family141.27 house141.83 in142.31 1830,142.55 excuse143.27 me,143.27 in143.27 1830.145.19
147.93 There147.93 was148.16 a148.2 lot148.25 of148.56 talk148.72 in149.13 designs.149.44 We149.84 went150.16 through150.41 17151.28 iterations152 of152.65 design152.88 to153.37 try153.53 to153.76 carefully153.84 plan155.28 a155.76 building156.88 to157.76 be157.93 adjacent158.08 to158.56 this158.72 building158.88 that159.28 would159.44 not159.69 overwhelm160.08 the160.65 building.160.81 Some162.33 people162.57 may162.89 look163.13 at163.29 their165.77 initial166.01 reaction166.41 to166.81 plan166.89 and167.29 wonder167.61 why168.17 it169.37 was169.53 essentially169.77 a170.25 very170.33 simplistic170.65 design171.21 with172.41 a172.57 flat172.73 roof.172.97 It173.79 certainly173.96 was174.19 a174.35 question174.59 that175 I175.24 asked175.39 when175.72 I175.96 first176.44 was176.68 introduced176.83 to177.31 Bennie,177.39 the178.51 designer178.68 of179.07 the179.16 project.179.31 Why179.72 a179.96 flat180.03 roof180.28 when180.51 you180.75 had180.83 a181 building181.07 that181.39 had181.56 a181.79 pitch181.88 roof?182.11 There183.24 are183.39 two183.72 approaches184.11 to184.68 do184.83 that.185 1185.31 is185.56 to185.72 basically185.88 try186.44 to186.59 copy187.79 or188.28 match188.44 with188.96 the189.28 architectural189.36 style190.08 that's190.4 there,190.64 which191.28 would191.52 call191.76 for192 a192.12 building192.24 which193.04 would193.2 have193.36 a193.6 gable193.68 end194.08 pitch194.32 roof.194.64 But195.76 the196.4 alternative196.64 approach,198.56 which199.2 as199.44 you199.6 see199.76 is199.92 the200.16 flat200.88 roof,201.2 is201.96 largely202.19 done202.51 to202.75 basically203 frame203.96 the204.35 building.204.51
205.63 We're205.63 right206.59 on206.83 the207 edge207.07 of207.47 the207.72 Watertown207.79 Square208.35 commercial208.75 district.209.24 We're209.79 basically210.11 most210.75 of211.07 those211.24 buildings211.47 are211.96 flat212.11 roofed.212.35 And213.63 so213.88 this214.11 provides214.35 what214.83 we215 hope215.16 is215.4 a215.72 framing216.28 of217.24 the217.4 existing218.04 house218.44 without218.76 overwhelming219.24 it.220.2 So,224.52 I225.56 think225.8 without226.28 further226.76 ado227.08 then,227.32 I227.64 am227.72 going227.96 to228.12 introduce228.36 Mr.229.16 Bennie,229.64 who229.64 will229.72 now229.88 go230.12 through230.28 the230.52 project230.6 and231.68 explain231.92 to232.31 you232.4 some233.19 of233.44 the233.59 features233.75 of234.08 it,234.24 how234.4 we234.64 arrived234.88 at235.28 the235.68 design,235.84 some236.8 of236.96 the237.12 factors237.19 that237.68 influenced238.08 the238.8 site238.96 planning239.19 as239.59 well239.84 as240.08 the240.31 construction240.47 of241.03 the241.19 new241.28 home.242.08 I242.96 should243.12 have243.36 said,243.52 this244.4 is244.56 a244.8 multifamily244.96 project,246.08 a247.24 nine247.4 unit247.56 multifamily247.96 project.248.6 Eight249.4 of249.64 the249.8 units,249.96 located250.92 in251.4 the251.56 new251.64 building251.88 on252.36 three252.6 levels,252.84 and253.96 the254.76 other254.92 ninth256.04 unit256.28 is256.92 actually257.08 a257.4 restoration257.56 of258.28 what258.76 was258.84 the259.08 single259.24 family259.48 dwelling259.88 into260.28 it,260.52 is261 through261.24 the261.31 3261.48 bedroom261.79 single262.12 family262.35 home.262.75 So,263.79 Vinny,263.95 I264.35 don't264.51 mean264.6 to264.75 have264.91 you265 going265.15 up265.39 and265.56 down,265.71 but265.95 the266.75 stage267 is267.31 already267.39 yours.267.71
271.56 BENNIE271.56 BER271.56 -271.56 NEEH-KOO-DAH271.56 -271.56 Okay.271.56 Alright.271.56 Again,271.56 my272.04 name272.27 is272.35 Bennie272.91 Ber.273.15 I'm273.15 an273.24 architect273.39 for274.27 this274.51 project.274.75 Terry277.01 introduced277.49 me.277.89 Thank278.21 you,278.37 Terry.278.61 So283.97 the284.21 goals284.45 of284.69 the284.85 project,285.01 we287.81 want288.05 to288.21 develop288.37 a288.93 multifamily289.25 residence289.97 at290.81 this290.98 location.291.13 We're292.18 doing292.42 it292.65 by293.13 converting293.62 the294.18 existing294.42 historic294.98 house295.38 to295.77 one295.94 residential296.81 unit,297.38 3297.77 bedroom,298.42 as298.81 was298.98 said.299.21 And300.01 we303.83 create304.07 eight304.95 new305.67 residential306.39 units307.03 and307.51 a308.39 new308.55 structure308.87 next310.23 to310.63 it.310.79 So311.91 by312.23 doing312.47 that,312.71 we312.87 are313.03 increasing313.27 the313.83 housing313.99 stock314.47 that's314.71 available314.95 in316.68 Watertown.318.51 We318.51 want318.84 to319.07 preserve319.15 the319.63 historic320.04 house,320.6 as322.84 a323.15 character323.31 giving323.72 element324.12 in324.92 the325.07 historic325.15 district.325.56 Then326.04 we326.68 had326.84 a327.24 fairly328.53 lengthy329.01 process329.57 with330.05 the330.29 historic330.45 district330.93 commission331.33 that332.77 culminated333.97 in334.85 a335.25 unanimous335.73 vote336.69 in336.93 favor337.09 of337.41 this337.49 project.337.73
340.37 We340.37 want341.09 to341.33 encourage341.49 economic342.05 growth,342.69 development343.57 and344.45 improvement.347.18 And347.5 enhance347.5 the347.89 urban,348.06 cultural,348.77 aesthetic,349.33 and349.74 historic349.89 richness350.45 of351.1 Watertown351.42 Square.352.38 And357.42 this357.74 is357.89 a358.95 transit359.11 oriented359.43 development359.91 that360.55 aligns361.03 with361.67 the362.95 MBTA363.35 Communities363.35 Act,364.71 so,365.27 you365.27 know.368.55 These368.79 are368.79 photos369.03 of369.43 the369.59 existing370.39 conditions.370.87 You371.35 see371.81 the372.54 historic372.62 house373.01 on373.65 Mount374.86 Auburn,375.1 some376.21 views376.54 from376.86 up377.25 Mount378.45 Auburn378.69 looking379.1 back,379.5 and380.06 some380.38 views380.69 from381.01 down381.18 Mount381.5 Auburn.382.45 Currently,382.94 the384.21 house384.38 sits384.86 near385.81 the386.13 edge386.29 of386.54 the386.69 lot,386.86 on388.07 the388.23 right388.47 as388.71 you388.95 look389.03 at389.19 it389.43 from389.51 Mount389.83 Auburn390.15 Street.390.47 And391.19 most391.91 of392.23 the392.39 lot392.55 is393.03 actually393.43 paved393.99 with394.39 asphalt.394.63 It's395.11 just395.43 a,396.07 you396.95 know,397.11 it's397.43 a397.59 parking397.67 area.398.15 Okay.403.19 There's404.39 also404.8 a405.68 topographic406.15 drop406.8 of407.12 about407.36 8407.75 or408 9408.15 feet408.48 from409.36 the409.6 upper411.12 point411.44 of411.75 the411.92 lot412.07 on413.44 the413.51 right414.81 side415.05 of415.29 it415.53 to416.41 the416.57 lower416.81 side417.13 of417.29 the417.45 lot417.53 on417.85 Summer418.89 Street.419.21 And421.21 that421.45 influences421.85 the423.61 designers,423.77 who424.97 designed425.13 it.425.53
426.33 This426.33 is426.65 the427.54 proposed428.35 site428.99 plan.430.02 And430.26 we're430.26 showing430.5 here430.9 the431.38 landscaping431.87 as432.99 proposed433.23 with433.79 increasing436.19 the436.75 amount436.9 of437.23 landscaping437.38 considerably438.58 of439.46 the439.79 swabs.439.94 As441.79 Terry441.94 mentioned,442.35 we443.28 have443.44 to446.64 comply446.72 with447.12 this447.28 12447.52 food448.4 sidewalk448.72 zone449.28 right449.84 here.450.16 So,450.4 the451.6 regulation451.76 is452.32 written452.48 in452.72 such452.88 a453.12 way453.2 that453.44 it's454.08 doesn't455.68 distinguish456 between456.8 a458.49 situation458.56 where458.96 all459.29 this459.53 sidewalk459.76 is460.25 on460.56 the461.21 public461.53 right461.85 of462.09 way462.25 or462.56 on462.96 the463.13 lot.463.37 So463.93 in464.32 this464.49 area,464.73 it's465.13 all,465.37 you465.69 know,465.76 in466 the466.17 public466.32 right466.73 of466.88 way.467.05 And467.29 as467.44 we467.69 turn467.85 here,468.17 this469.85 curve470.17 right470.56 here470.81 is,471.84 you472.16 know,472.4 on472.64 our472.96 land473.28 and474.16 it's474.48 become476.08 part476.56 of476.88 the477.04 the477.68 sidewalk.478 The479.36 entrance480.24 to480.88 the481.2 lower482.32 level482.56 parking482.88 is483.6 roughly483.84 where484.4 the484.64 curb484.96 cut485.28 is485.6 currently,486.51 on487.8 Summer488.12 Street.488.51 There490.19 are490.36 many491.31 very491.63 good491.88 reasons492.12 for492.75 us493 to493.15 keep493.31 it493.48 there.493.71 This500.36 is500.68 the500.92 same501 site501.32 plan501.56 just501.88 showing502.12 the502.36 lower503.08 level,503.48 the504.12 parking504.36 area504.68 with505 five505.32 parking505.88 spaces506.44 underneath507.24 the508.04 building508.2 access508.76 on508.95 the509.15 South509.4 Street.509.8
514.59 On514.59 the514.83 left,514.99 you515.23 see515.47 the515.79 existing519.71 open519.71 space520.11 in520.59 Pervious.520.75 So,521.23 what's521.87 currently522.35 open522.83 space523.23 and524.26 not524.42 paved525.15 is525.39 shown525.79 in526.03 this526.19 pale526.91 green527.23 color.527.79 On528.43 the528.67 right,528.75 you529.07 see529.23 the529.63 proposed529.87 condition530.35 with530.83 planting.530.99 There's532.27 a534.91 substantial534.99 increase535.63 in536.27 open537.09 space537.42 in537.76 the538.09 landscape538.43 space.538.91 I'll543.3 go543.7 quickly543.93 through544.34 the544.98 floor545.13 plans.545.38 This545.62 is545.77 a545.93 floor546.01 plan546.25 of546.5 the546.58 low546.82 level547.13 from547.46 the547.7 parking.547.93 There's548.98 a549.3 stair,549.62 that's550.89 going551.54 up551.86 and552.01 down552.18 the552.5 building.552.65 So553.32 people553.96 who554.28 park554.52 in555 here555.16 can555.4 use555.64 a555.8 stair555.96 to556.2 go556.36 to556.52 their556.6 units.557.48 The561.24 parking561.56 requirements561.88 are562.68 half563.8 a564.04 space564.2 per566.84 unit.567.08 We567.56 have567.72 a568.19 total568.27 of568.43 nine568.51 units568.83 in569.15 this569.32 development,569.95 so570.19 the570.19 parking570.36 requirement570.75 is571.15 four571.32 and571.55 a571.63 half,571.71 runs572.6 up572.83 to573 5573.15 feet,573.55 so573.71 we573.71 meet573.88 that574.12 requirement.574.36 This578.19 is578.51 the578.91 First580.51 Floor.580.83 The581.48 entrance582.63 to583.35 the583.75 new584.31 building584.55 is585.11 going585.35 to585.59 be589.03 right589.03 here589.35 between589.91 the590.63 new590.79 structure591.03 and591.59 the591.83 existing,592.55 there's592.79 going592.79 to593.03 be593.11 an593.43 entry594.15 door594.47 here594.79 into595.11 the595.51 stair595.75 area.596.07
597.27 There597.27 are599.04 three599.27 units599.27 on599.6 this599.75 floor.600 Two601.84 larger602.08 units.602.48 You603.27 know,603.43 each603.68 has604 two604.32 bedrooms,604.56 one605.12 bath.605.36 The606.48 front606.72 unit607.04 is607.51 one607.84 bedroom,608.08 one608.48 bath.608.72 This621.54 is622.6 the622.75 Second622.84 Floor,623 very623.32 similar623.48 to623.72 the623.96 First624.04 Floor624.2 except624.43 it624.67 doesn't624.75 have625.08 an625.24 entry625.48 to626.12 the626.2 building.626.43 The627.48 same627.72 configuration,628.04 two629.24 two629.39 bedrooms.629.39 With632.12 the633.48 historic634.2 district634.6 commission,635 we635.96 decided636.6 to637.08 lower637.32 the638.57 front638.73 wing638.97 of639.53 the639.77 proposed640.01 new640.49 structure640.73 so641.45 it642.01 doesn't,642.57 you643.29 know,643.53 overpower643.77 and644.57 overwhelm644.81 the645.37 historic645.61 structure.646.17 So646.65 the647.21 Third647.37 Floor647.69 only648.09 has648.49 the648.97 units649.13 in649.45 the649.61 back.649.77 These649.93 are650.17 the650.33 two650.65 two650.81 bedroom650.81 units651.29 in651.69 the651.85 back,652.01 and652.89 there's653.05 a653.22 lower653.46 roof656.82 facing656.82 my657.46 property.657.7 In659.46 total,659.7 we660.34 have663.05 one663.22 unit663.22 in663.54 the663.7 historic663.86 building664.34 plus665.38 six667.02 two667.26 bedroom667.26 units667.66 and668.22 two669.42 one669.74 bedroom669.74 units.670.14 The670.86 two671.1 bedroom671.26 units671.66 are672.06 roughly672.3 860672.86 square673.82 feet674.14 each.674.54
679.03 So689.27 here690.71 you691.12 can691.19 see691.43 the692.07 two693.78 story694.02 wing694.42 on694.74 the694.82 left,694.98 the695.38 existing695.54 historic696.26 house696.74 on697.54 the697.7 right,697.86 and698.1 you698.26 can698.34 see698.58 the699.94 wing700.1 in700.42 the700.58 back,700.74 back702.74 of702.9 the703.14 lot.703.22 The703.94 story704.18 has704.58 three704.98 stories.705.22 This708.88 is709.13 just709.52 the710.09 roof710.17 plan710.4 showing,710.73 the711.68 head713.45 house713.76 for714.17 access714.49 to714.88 the715.05 roof.715.21 One718.33 of718.57 the718.73 features719.91 that720.31 came721.03 up721.27 in721.43 discussion721.59 with721.91 the722.15 historic722.23 district723.51 commission723.83 when723.83 talked723.83 about724.47 this724.63 idea724.63 is724.83 to725.03 create725.19 some725.59 fundamental725.91 metal727.59 work727.99 gates,728.87 you729.75 know,730.31 gateway730.55 sign.731.51 This736.85 is737.17 the737.8 area738.21 down,738.21 Mount739 Auburn739.33 Street.739.64 And744.13 this744.52 is744.76 further745.09 down745.49 Mount745.8 Auburn746.05 Street,746.29 so746.61 you746.68 can746.85 see747 on747.17 the747.33 left747.49 the747.73 entrance747.97 to748.45 the748.61 property748.76 underneath749.33 the750.15 margin750.63 of750.87 the751.11 bedroom.751.35 And755.75 this756.07 is756.39 a756.63 view756.79 from757.03 the757.27 back.757.35 The757.67 way757.83 the760.87 new761.03 zoning761.19 is761.75 written761.99 on763.12 this763.36 lot763.6 line763.84 between764.39 us764.79 and765.03 the765.12 abutting765.75 property,766.39 we767.51 can767.67 either768 have769.51 a769.91 zero772.15 setback772.88 or774.48 10775.1 foot775.34 setback.775.5 There's776.06 nothing776.94 in777.34 between.777.58
778.22 So778.22 the779.26 left779.98 part,780.3 the780.54 back780.7 part780.94 is781.34 on781.66 the781.82 zero783.18 lot783.74 line.783.74 Because783.74 of783.74 other783.74 considerations,784.06 building784.7 code785.02 considerations.785.18 We785.82 cannot785.98 have786.3 openings786.62 here.787.1 So,787.42 you789.98 know,790.31 windows790.65 to790.99 those791.32 rooms791.66 from792 the792.34 sides.792.67 In793.01 theory,793.35 there794.02 could794.36 be794.7 another795.03 project795.37 in795.71 the796.05 future796.38 that796.72 would800.43 both800.77 meet801.11 on801.44 the,801.78 you802.46 know,802.79 on803.13 the803.47 property803.81 line.804.14 And806.4 the806.56 rest806.72 of806.96 this807.12 side807.52 is808 recessed808.32 and808.96 feet,809.2 as810.72 we811.52 provide811.76 by812 the812.24 zoning812.32 code812.8 or813.84 as814.08 provided814.4 by815.28 the815.52 zoning815.68 code.816.16 This816.82 is817.21 a817.46 view817.53 of818.17 the819.29 entrance819.62 from820.17 the820.41 front.820.58 You821.29 can821.46 see821.7 the822.1 front822.98 porch823.38 of823.7 the823.86 historic824.41 house.825.53 On825.93 the826.1 right,826.25 you826.58 can826.74 see826.89 the827.13 entry827.46 door,827.93 the828.65 distance828.82 in829.21 the829.38 back.829.53 And831.81 this832.45 is832.61 the,833.06 you833.52 know,833.97 presentation834.21 that834.85 I835.01 have835.17 at835.41 the836.29 project.836.53 Happy836.53 to836.53 answer836.61 questions.836.93
839.33 JANE839.33 HOLDEN839.33 -839.33 RESIDENT839.33 -839.33 Oh,839.33 I839.49 think839.65 it's839.81 terrific839.97 that840.37 you're840.53 saving840.69 the841.01 house.841.17 I842.37 wish842.53 the842.93 house843.09 the843.57 shiplap843.81 treatment845.46 on845.77 the846.01 front846.1 of846.34 the846.5 historic846.58 house846.89 somehow847.22 could847.53 have847.7 been847.86 carried848.74 over849.05 to849.38 the850.82 new850.98 building,851.13 but851.62 that's852.01 an852.58 aesthetic852.74 question.853.13 For855.93 all856.1 that,856.34 I'm856.5 pleased856.65 to856.98 see857.13 the857.29 house857.38 saved.857.62 I'm858.4 really858.64 disappointed858.88 that859.52 your859.92 building860.24 is860.8 going860.96 to861.2 necessitate861.52 the862.08 taking862.24 down862.56 of862.88 a863.04 fabulous863.2 blue863.76 spruce864.08 that's864.4 on864.64 the864.8 corner.864.88 It's865.36 probably865.6 one866 of866.16 the866.32 best866.48 spruces866.96 in867.44 town.867.6 15,868.64 20869.04 feet,869.36 perfect869.84 condition,870.72 no870.88 disease,870.88 and871.76 you're871.92 removing872.16 it.872.56 I873.32 don't873.48 understand873.72 why874.43 you874.75 are875 asking,875.24 why875.72 you're875.96 expanding876.27 sidewalk.877 We877.39 have877.55 a877.79 lot877.88 of877.96 hardscape878.12 in878.75 Watertown879 Square.879.39 One879.72 of879.88 the879.96 things880.04 we're880.27 trying880.43 to880.67 do880.75 is880.92 have881.15 less881.96 hardscape.882.27 You're883 adding,883.32 and883.55 it's883.72 not883.88 a884.04 place884.12 to884.36 congregate.884.51 No885 one's885.24 gotta885.39 have885.91 a886.15 social886.63 time887.11 on887.43 the887.51 corner887.67 of887.99 Summer888.07 and888.31 Mount888.47 Auburn888.63 Street.888.95 So889.35 I889.83 would889.99 ask890.79 you891.03 not891.27 to891.51 widen891.75 the892.07 sidewalk892.15 any892.71 more892.95 than893.19 Americans893.43 with893.75 Disabilities893.99 makes895.83 or,896.07 you896.55 know,896.79 you897.03 don't897.19 need897.35 an897.75 extra897.99 large898.39 sidewalk898.63 there.899.19
899.43 What899.43 we899.99 need900.15 is900.39 not901.17 the901.33 little901.5 shrubs901.82 in902.05 the902.21 lupine902.38 up902.7 there902.86 that903.1 are903.33 very903.57 pretty903.89 in904.13 your904.21 picture.904.45 Dogs,905.17 and905.5 bikes,906.13 and906.45 scooters906.62 will907.1 obliterate907.33 those907.89 in908.21 one908.45 season,908.7 I909.1 would909.17 guess.909.41 What910.29 we910.45 need910.62 are910.77 trees.911.01 So911.65 if911.82 you're911.89 gonna912.05 take912.29 down912.45 the912.62 spruce912.77 tree,913.95 there's914.19 still914.59 room.914.91 This915.55 doesn't916.43 show916.83 it,916.99 but917.07 there's917.23 still917.47 room917.71 for918.27 some918.51 trees.919.63 You920.11 can920.27 have920.43 a920.91 three921.15 vestigial921.87 elm922.75 trees.923.07 You923.55 could923.71 do923.87 something924.11 that924.43 would924.59 actually924.91 help925.31 the926.27 global926.83 heating927.47 crisis927.87 that928.35 we928.51 have.928.67 You929.21 could929.46 do929.5 something929.53 that929.93 would930.1 actually930.25 shade930.89 the931.21 street,931.38 make931.7 this931.93 a932.17 more932.34 livable932.58 area933.05 instead933.62 of933.93 just934.1 adding934.41 more934.74 concrete934.98 and935.38 more935.53 hardscape.935.77 And937.05 I937.21 wonder,937.38 so937.86 I938.01 meant938.17 the938.34 shrubs938.58 are,938.98 I'm939.46 sorry,939.7 Perennials940.17 are940.74 they940.89 always941.05 are941.29 pretty941.46 in941.7 pictures941.77 and942.17 they942.34 don't943.13 last.943.38 You943.85 can943.93 have944.05 kids944.17 ride944.49 their944.73 bikes944.81 over945.05 them.945.29 The945.45 people945.53 who945.77 live945.93 there946.17 have946.33 dogs946.57 so946.89 that947.05 the947.21 dogs947.37 use947.69 that947.93 area948.09 to948.97 do949.13 their949.29 business.949.45 It's950.25 gonna950.49 look950.73 terrible950.97 very951.61 quickly.951.85
952.49 Trees952.49 last.953.13 If953.53 they're953.69 done953.85 right,954.09 if954.33 you954.49 have954.57 the955.21 right955.37 kind955.61 of955.77 soil956.7 underneath957.5 them,957.98 you958.13 could958.38 do958.53 a958.7 good958.77 job958.93 with959.17 trees.959.33 And959.82 I960.05 also960.13 wonder,960.45 on961.74 the961.89 right962.05 side,962.29 there's962.7 a962.93 hole963.1 on963.65 the963.82 east964.05 where964.77 the965.01 church965.17 parking965.58 lot965.89 is.966.05 There's966.45 a966.7 whole966.77 row967.01 of967.5 ewes967.74 now,968.21 shrubs,968.7 mature969.82 ewes.970.29 I'm971.27 guessing971.59 they're971.83 on971.99 the972.15 church972.23 property.972.55 They're973.03 right973.83 on973.99 the974.15 edge974.23 there974.47 or974.79 between975.11 the975.35 two.975.59 I'm976.07 sure976.23 the976.55 church976.63 would976.95 not977.11 mind.977.35 It977.67 is977.75 a977.99 wide978.07 strip.978.39 What978.79 is978.95 it,979.27 maybe979.59 6979.59 feet?979.91 It980.71 would980.87 be981.03 ideal981.35 for,981.91 you982.55 know,982.71 seven983.66 major983.99 shade984.47 trees984.79 to985.11 be985.18 put985.35 there.985.42 We985.83 need986.07 trees.986.47 We986.87 need987.02 shade.987.26 We987.83 need987.99 cooling.988.3 We989.02 don't989.26 need989.59 pictures990.87 of991.18 little991.35 lupines991.59 that992.71 are992.95 not993.02 gonna993.18 be993.42 there.993.59
997.31 BER997.31 -997.31 The997.31 planting998.11 plan998.75 is999.23 not999.47 fully999.71 developed.1000.03 It's1000.35 shown1000.59 here,1000.91 as1002.11 our1002.35 intent1002.75 and1003.47 notionally.1003.71 We1004.59 will1004.83 develop1005.07 the1005.39 planting1005.55 plan.1006.03
1006.59 HOLDEN1006.59 -1006.59 Trees.1006.59
1007.39 BER1007.39 -1007.39 And1007.39 we1007.63 can1007.79 incorporate1008.03 trees1008.59 in1008.83 there.1008.91
1009.31 HOLDEN1009.31 -1009.31 We1009.31 don't1009.47 need1009.71 perennials.1010.03 They1010.75 don't1010.91 last.1011.23 I1011.64 love1011.88 perennials.1012.05 I'm1012.52 a1012.68 gardener.1012.76 Don't1013.33 put1013.64 perennials1013.88 around1014.45 our1014.76 urban1014.93 buildings.1015.33
1019.73 MARY1019.73 SULLIVAN1019.73 -1019.73 RESIDENT1019.73 -1019.73 I1019.73 live1019.88 at1020.21 931020.37 Mount1020.93 Auburn1021.17 Street1021.49 with1021.73 my1021.88 husband,1022.05 Fred.1022.52 I've1022.85 lived1023 there1023.33 for1023.57 661023.73 years.1024.45 I've1025.3 walked1025.46 by1025.86 this1026.1 property1026.82 a1027.7 million1027.86 times.1028.42 I1028.74 walk1028.98 by1029.14 it1029.34 every1029.54 morning,1029.86 and1030.74 I1031.06 cannot,1031.38 in1031.94 my1032.5 wildest1032.74 dreams,1033.3 imagine1034.26 family,1036.02 so1036.5 many1036.66 families1036.98 living1037.38 there1037.7 with1037.86 you1038.18 said,1038.58 four1038.82 and1038.82 a1038.98 half1039.06 parking1039.3 spaces?1039.78
1042.15 BER1042.47 -1042.47 Five.1042.47
1042.47 M1042.47 SULLIVAN1042.47 -1042.47 Five1042.47 parking1042.47 spaces.1043.03 How1044.08 many1044.32 units?1044.63
1046.15 BER1046.15 -1046.15 A1046.15 total1046.32 of1046.55 nine.1047.19
1047.52 M1047.52 SULLIVAN1047.52 -1047.52 Nine1047.52 units.1047.52 No1048.71 overnight1049.03 parking.1049.76 I1051.12 don't1051.27 understand1051.67 the1052.47 look1052.71 of1052.88 it1053.03 for1053.36 the1053.52 Historic1053.67 District.1055.12 I1056.03 live1056.19 in1056.59 the1056.83 Historic1056.99 District.1057.63 Very1059.31 little1059.63 money1059.95 has1060.27 been1060.51 given1060.67 to1061.23 the1061.39 Historic1061.63 District,1062.11 and1062.91 it1063.15 just,1064.27 I1064.59 don't1064.75 see,1065.23 even1066.83 when1067.23 you're1067.47 talking1067.71 about1068.11 a1068.43 121068.67 foot1068.99 sidewalk,1069.31 I1071.07 imagine1071.46 myself1071.87 walking1072.35 to1072.74 school1072.98 every1073.31 day1073.55 and1074.03 I1074.27 can't1074.42 imagine1074.66 where1075.31 you're1075.55 going1075.79 to1076.03 put1076.11 that.1076.35 I've1077.07 gone1077.38 to1077.87 so1078.11 many1078.27 meeting1078.66 that1079.07 what1079.38 we1079.63 see1079.87 and1080.59 what1080.83 we1081.07 get1081.31 are1081.94 two1082.27 very1082.83 different1083.14 things,1083.46 and1083.79 then1084.03 it's1084.27 too1084.59 late.1084.83 So1086.36 living1086.68 across1087.08 the1087.64 street,1087.8 I1088.68 can't1088.92 imagine1089.32 the1090.28 height1090.52 of1090.84 this.1091 I1092.36 can't1092.52 imagine1092.84 where1093.32 cars1093.72 are1094.12 going1094.28 to1094.6 go1094.76 even1095.24 if1095.48 people1095.72 have1096.12 a1096.36 friend1096.6 over.1097 I1098.88 just1101.29 don't1101.61 even1101.85 know1102.01 what1102.16 to1102.4 say.1102.48 When1103.37 my1103.61 neighbors1103.92 when1104.33 we1104.64 saw1104.81 this1105.13 photo,1106.33 we1106.81 were1106.96 all1107.29 floored1107.85 by1108.16 it.1108.4 We1108.57 we1108.88 just,1109.13 we're1109.68 always1110.01 at1110.33 a1110.57 meeting1110.64 for1110.96 something1111.21 in1112.16 our1112.4 neighborhood,1112.57 whether1113.76 it's1114 for1114.24 Mount1114.48 Auburn1114.64 Street1115.04 being1115.36 done1115.52 over,1115.84 whether1116.48 it's1116.72 for1116.96 the1117.12 church1117.28 across1117.6 the1117.92 street,1118.16 fighting1118.96 for1119.36 to1120.08 hold1120.24 on1120.56 to1120.8 the1120.96 historic1121.12 district.1121.68 And1122.4 this1122.64 does1122.96 not1123.2 fit1123.52 in.1123.76 It1124.56 actually1125.2 takes1125.92 away1126.24 the1126.72 sky,1128.55 takes1128.79 away1128.79 the1129.19 sky1129.36 walking1129.67 down1130.08 the1130.23 street.1130.39 This1130.63 is1130.95 so1131.03 goddamn1131.36 big.1131.91 And1132.95 it1133.84 doesn't1133.99 have1134.39 any1134.71 character1135.19 to1135.6 it.1135.75 And1136.63 I1136.88 think1137.6 it's1137.84 a1138.08 terrible,1138.32 terrible1138.88 idea.1139.27
1141.45 MORRIS1141.45 -1141.45 I1141.45 can1141.61 respond1141.85 to1142.17 the1142.33 parking.1142.49 The1144.57 reason1144.81 why1145.13 the1145.45 City1146.65 of1146.97 Watertown1147.05 determined1147.93 to1148.81 reduce1149.05 the1149.37 parking1149.45 requirements1149.93 is1150.33 because1150.49 they1150.73 wanted1150.89 to1151.21 encourage1151.37 development1152.41 closer1152.97 to1153.37 the1153.53 business1154.09 school.1154.49 I1156.3 have1156.46 done1156.7 a1157.02 lot1157.11 of,1157.66 represented1158.07 a1158.07 lot1158.14 of1158.3 developers1158.46 for1158.87 many1159.02 of1159.35 communities1159.42 who1160.22 look1160.87 like1161.51 Needham1161.74 around.1161.74 It's1163.59 a1163.83 standard1163.98 rule1165.42 of1165.74 thumb1165.9 in1166.87 the1167.02 city.1167.9 The1169.6 marketplace1172.4 will1173.04 dictate1173.84 who1174.48 lives1174.72 and1174.96 thrives1175.2 in1175.6 any1175.76 particular1176 building.1176.56 If1177.44 people1177.68 wanna1178.24 live1178.56 here1178.8 and1179.04 they1179.2 have1179.36 one1179.6 car,1179.84 that's1180.48 what1181.1 they're1181.34 gonna1181.41 do.1181.65 If1181.89 they1181.98 have1182.13 two1182.3 cars,1182.46 they're1182.7 gonna1182.86 be1183.1 going1183.17 someplace1183.5 else.1183.89 In1184.93 Newton,1185.17 they1185.5 built1185.74 a1185.98 four1186.06 story1186.38 building1186.7 in1187.02 the1187.17 heart1187.26 of1187.41 Newtonville1187.58 Square1188.06 where1188.38 I1188.62 live1189.65 in1189.74 Newton.1189.82 Basically,1190.93 they1191.41 required1191.58 the1192.06 developer1192.22 to1192.7 have1192.78 two1193.02 spaces1193.26 per1193.82 unit.1194.38 And1195.7 when1198.18 in1198.34 fact,1198.5 that1199.14 was1199.3 basically1199.62 a1201.3 dense1201.78 development1202.1 in1202.66 the1202.9 village1203.3 square.1204.58 Half1204.82 the1204.82 parking1204.98 garage1205.46 is1205.86 not1206.02 used1206.34 because1206.66 people1207.06 who1207.38 live1207.54 there1207.7 only1208.34 use1208.66 one1208.9 car.1209.14 So1210.24 I1210.72 think1210.88 that1211.12 just1211.36 underscores1211.6 the1212.15 same1212.96 rationale1213.28 that1213.67 I1213.91 found1213.99 in1214.32 the1214.48 city1214.63 of1214.88 Framingham1215.04 with1215.6 a1215.76 similar1215.91 situation.1216.32 Parking1217.2 is1217.67 being1217.84 overbuilt1218.24 everywhere.1218.96 And1219.91 where1219.99 it's1220.24 not,1221.43 at1221.52 least1221.52 this1222.08 parking1222.32 is1222.72 put1222.88 under1223.2 the1223.43 building,1223.6 out1224.08 of1224.24 sight.1224.39 And1225.32 rather1227.72 than1227.96 having1228.6 parking1229.08 open1229.64 air,1229.96 which1230.2 sacrifices1230.52 open1231.56 space1231.88 for1232.52 the1232.68 sake1232.76 of1233 asphalt.1233.16
1233.64 M1233.64 SULLIVAN1233.64 -1233.64 And1233.64 the1233.72 building1233.88 comes1234.28 very1234.6 close1234.92 to1235.24 the1235.4 front1235.56 sidewalk.1235.96
1236.84 MORRIS1236.84 -1236.84 That's1236.84 by1237.16 design.1237.4 The1238.19 dimensional1238.28 controls,1239.08 perhaps,1239.71 Gideon1240.28 might1240.67 respond1240.84 to1241.32 what1241.47 the1241.63 dimensional1241.8 controls1242.28 are1242.67 in1242.99 this1243.08 district,1243.32 but1243.88 their1244.04 intent1244.28 this1244.99 is1245.23 form1245.63 based1246.28 development.1246.84 I1248.12 was1248.28 basically1248.52 cutting1249.23 my1249.47 teeth1249.71 in1250.04 representing1250.36 these1250.76 people,1250.91 and1251.15 I've1251.32 been1251.47 doing1251.63 it1251.88 for1252.04 501252.19 years,1253.37 on1253.61 a1254.09 development1254.09 that1254.57 has1254.81 a1255.05 different1255.13 standard1255.53 of1255.93 measurement.1256.01 Setbacks,1256.97 open1257.69 space,1258.01 floor,1258.41 you1258.57 know,1258.73 floor1259.21 area1259.45 ratio.1259.77 This1260.57 is1260.73 form1261.45 based1261.69 development1262.01 where1262.49 you1262.73 don't,1262.89 where1263.69 the1263.85 form1264.01 of1264.33 the1264.49 building1264.65 dictates1265.05 the1265.61 number1265.77 of1266.01 units1266.17 you1266.49 put1266.73 on1266.89 the1267.05 site.1267.21 And1267.83 that1268.07 is1268.14 what's1268.38 happening1268.71 everywhere.1269.11 It1270.31 first1270.47 started1270.71 in1271.03 Brookline.1271.51 It's1271.98 moved1272.14 also,1273.27 it's1273.66 now1273.98 on1274.23 Cambridge.1274.55 It's1275.03 Newton,1275.35 and1276.07 it's1276.23 come1276.47 to1276.71 Watertown.1276.87
1277.66 M1277.66 SULLIVAN1277.66 -1277.66 Yeah.1277.66 But1277.9 this1278.14 is1278.31 a1278.47 historic1278.63 district,1279.18 and1280.05 we1280.29 shouldn't1280.37 be1280.77 so1281.01 flexed.1281.33 I1281.81 don't1281.89 really1282.61 care1282.85 about1283.09 Brookline,1283.41 or1283.97 Cambridge,1284.13 or1284.85 the1285.09 parking.1285.33 I1285.73 don't1285.89 care1286.05 what1286.21 the1286.45 laws1286.61 are.1286.93 I1287.41 know1287.57 what1287.73 happens,1289.25 right?1289.89 And1289.89 this1290.05 is1290.29 just1290.53 a1290.93 poor1291.09 choice1291.49 for1291.89 this1292.05 neighborhood.1292.29 This1292.85 is1293.01 my,1293.25 I1293.57 live1293.73 there.1293.97 This1294.44 is1294.61 my1294.85 neighborhood.1295.09 I've1295.57 lived1295.8 there1295.96 for1296.2 661296.44 years,1297.01 and1298.2 I'm1298.53 tired1298.77 of1299.09 hearing1299.24 of1299.8 developers1300.05 and1300.61 what1300.77 they're1301.01 going1301.24 to1301.48 do.1301.57 And1301.8 what1301.96 we1302.13 get1302.37 at1302.53 the1302.68 end1302.77 is1303.48 just,1303.64 like,1303.88 cheap1305.24 goods,1305.57 to1306.13 be1306.29 honest1306.44 with1306.77 you.1306.92
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1314.49 JASON1314.49 COHEN1314.49 -1314.49 PLANNING1314.49 BOARD1314.49 MEMBER1314.49 -1314.49 Jason1314.49 Cohen,1314.89 planning1315.29 board,1315.77 so1316.09 we'll1316.97 probably1317.05 see1317.37 you1317.61 at1317.85 some1318.09 point.1318.25 I1319.69 just1319.85 wanna1320.09 say,1321.52 to1321.67 kinda1321.67 reinforce1321.99 the1322.39 point1322.63 you1322.88 just1323.12 made1323.28 about1324.48 parking1326.15 and1326.8 the1327.04 height,1327.2 etcetera,1327.52 just1328.15 to1328.48 put1329.28 this1329.43 in1329.67 context.1329.84 Whether1330.8 people1331.43 are1331.84 in1331.99 favor1332.15 of1332.56 it1332.72 or1332.88 not,1333.04 these1334.14 new1334.46 zones1334.7 have1335.02 been1335.34 created1335.58 with1336.14 lower1336.38 parking1336.7 requirements1337.26 and1338.78 the1339.02 allowance1339.18 for1339.66 more1340.14 height1340.46 in1341.1 the1341.26 goal1341.42 of1341.98 densifying1342.38 and1343.42 adding1344.38 more,1344.78 well,1345.5 you1345.9 know,1346.06 critically1347.02 needed1347.49 housing1347.82 in1348.93 the1349.1 city.1349.26 So1349.65 I1350.78 understand,1351.02 you1352.46 know,1352.54 people's1352.86 in1354.06 their1354.3 own1354.54 neighborhood,1354.78 it1355.58 might1355.97 be1356.22 a1356.38 little1356.46 bit1356.7 shocking.1356.86 But1357.17 just1357.41 to1357.58 give1357.82 some1357.97 context,1358.22 that's1358.62 sort1358.93 of1359.17 that1359.26 is1359.49 by1359.65 right1359.89 what1360.06 you're1360.22 doing1360.46 is1360.7 as1360.93 by1361.17 right.1361.34 And1363.31 this1363.39 is1363.55 gonna1363.71 come1363.87 up1364.11 many,1364.27 many1364.51 times1364.75 in1365.07 the1365.23 next1365.31 couple1365.71 of1365.87 months,1366.03 couple1366.35 of1366.59 years.1366.67 We1366.91 already1367.07 have1367.31 a1367.47 couple1367.55 of1367.87 projects,1367.95 yours1368.67 included,1369.07 that1369.47 are1369.63 taking1369.71 advantage1370.11 of1370.51 that.1370.59 Just1371.39 wanted1371.63 to1371.95 say1372.11 that1372.27 for1372.51 context.1372.83
1373.87
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1385.65 HOLDEN1385.89 -1385.89 I'm1385.89 wondering1385.89 about1385.89 the1385.89 setback1385.89 requirements1386.62 of1387.17 the1387.34 new1387.41 zoning,1387.65 which1388.06 is1388.3 why1388.46 I1388.62 directed1388.7 to1389.1 him.1389.17 Have1389.49 the1389.65 setback1389.82 requirements1390.38 changed?1391.02 Can1392.96 we1393.28 ask1393.44 buildings1393.68 to1394.08 be1394.24 pushed1395.44 back1395.76 enough1396 for1396.4 trees?1397.52 Or1397.84 are1398.56 they1398.64 are1398.96 they,1399.12 is1399.36 it1399.6 okay1399.76 that1400.08 they're1400.32 building1400.8 so1401.12 close1401.28 to1401.44 the1401.6 sidewalk?1401.68
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1415.18 GIDEON1415.18 SCHREIBER1415.18 -1415.18 CITY1415.18 OF1415.18 WATERTOWN1415.18 -1415.18 So,1415.18 there1415.51 is1415.51 zoning1415.51 and1415.9 there1415.9 is1415.9 the1416.14 Historic1416.3 District,1417.18 and1417.35 so1417.35 I1417.51 do1417.83 wanna1417.98 make1418.22 sure1418.38 that1418.54 there's1418.63 a,1418.87 you1418.94 know,1419.11 clear1419.35 line.1419.74 There1421.11 was1421.35 a1421.51 hearing1421.66 before1421.98 the1422.22 historic1422.38 district1422.79 commission.1424.99 We're1425.39 talking1425.71 about1425.95 zoning1426.19 now.1426.51 This1426.75 is1426.91 the1427.07 community1427.15 for1427.55 the1427.79 zoning,1427.87 but1428.27 the1428.59 historic1428.83 district1429.23 commission's1429.55 review1430.03 of1430.43 it1430.51 was1431.31 separate1431.79 from1432.11 it.1432.35 It1432.51 has1432.67 to1432.83 comply1432.99 with1433.31 zoning1433.47 as1433.79 well.1433.87 So,1434.11 historically,1435.16 this1435.72 was1435.88 zoned1436.13 central1436.53 business,1437.01 which1437.4 allowed1437.64 a1437.96 five1438.05 story1438.29 building1438.68 on1439.24 the1439.33 site,1439.48 but1440.05 it1440.29 was1440.37 also1440.53 in1440.77 the1441.09 historic1442.13 commission.1442.13 So,1442.13 as1444.2 your1444.37 zero1444.37 lot1444.37 line,1444.53 the1446.13 new1446.53 zoning1446.85 allows1447.57 requires1448.37 a1448.85 121449.01 foot1449.33 sidewalk.1449.91 That's1450.23 a1450.63 sidewalk1450.71 zone.1451.19 That1452.31 doesn't1452.47 mean1452.79 it's1452.95 a1453.19 sidewalk.1453.35 It1453.83 means1453.99 that1454.23 it's1454.39 a1454.63 public1455.19 realm1455.67 interface.1456.39 And1457.35 so1457.51 as1457.75 part1457.99 of1458.23 this,1458.39 they1458.63 have1458.87 to1459.03 work1459.11 with1459.35 the1459.51 city1459.67 and1460.07 DPW,1460.31 to1461.83 look1461.99 at1462.23 that1462.39 sidewalk1462.63 zone1463.19 as1463.51 it1463.67 wraps1463.83 around1464.07 the1464.31 corner,1464.47 where1464.87 they'd1465.03 be1465.11 providing1466.04 some1466.44 space1466.68 on1468.13 their1468.29 property1468.61 for1469.33 things1469.64 like1469.96 street1470.68 trees,1470.92 if1471.33 there's1471.64 a1471.8 possibility.1471.88 There's1473.09 also1473.33 a1473.64 lot1473.72 of1473.96 constraints1474.13 in1474.53 this1474.68 intersection1475.09 with1475.72 the1475.88 utility1476.61 boxes1477.09 and1478.37 things1478.45 like1478.77 that.1478.85
1479.81 HOLDEN1479.81 -1479.81 But1479.81 they1479.97 could1480.21 have,1482.29 part1482.53 of1482.77 this1482.85 could1483.09 be1483.41 more1483.97 open1485.01 space1485.33 for1485.57 trees,1486.85 not1487.25 just1487.49 hardscape.1488.21
1488.69 SCHREIBER1488.69 -1488.69 The1488.69 open1489.57 space1489.81 that1490.05 they1490.21 have,1490.45 if1490.93 there's1491.17 a1491.49 possibility1491.65 where1492.13 we1492.37 have1492.53 a1492.69 shared1492.77 space,1493.09 there1494.08 might1494.23 be1494.47 a1494.71 opportunity1494.79 for1495.36 a1496.39 tree,1496.79 like1497.03 a1497.36 shade1497.67 tree1497.91 in1498.23 the1498.36 front.1498.47 And1499.6 so1499.84 that's1499.99 what1500.55 we're1500.71 hoping,1500.95 but1501.19 it1501.52 has1501.84 to1502.32 work1502.47 with1503.6 what's1503.67 underneath1503.91 the1504.55 ground1504.63 and1505.43 those1505.61 other1507.05 spaces1507.29 there.1507.61
1508.17 MORRIS1508.17 -1508.17 I1508.17 think1508.33 that1508.57 response1508.81 dovetails1509.21 to1509.61 what1509.77 you1509.93 had1510.17 requested1510.25 about1510.81 more1511.13 trees.1511.37 I1511.77 think,1511.85 and1512.41 as1512.65 Bennie1512.73 has1513.05 said,1513.29 this1514.01 landscape1514.33 plan1514.97 hasn't1515.37 been1515.69 fully1516.09 vetted.1516.33 And1516.97 one1517.13 of1517.29 the1517.37 purposes1517.53 of1517.77 this1518.01 meeting1518.25 is1518.49 to1518.65 get1518.81 ideas,1519.05 such1519.45 as1519.69 yours,1520.33 so1520.55 that1520.63 we1520.79 can1520.88 now1520.95 take1521.36 advantage1521.52 of1521.91 those1521.99 suggestions1522.23 like1522.63 that.1522.88 And1523.28 when1523.52 we1523.6 present1523.76 that1524.15 plan1524.32 before1524.63 the1524.95 planning1525.12 board,1525.43 then1525.76 we1525.91 will1526.08 have1526.23 some,1526.39 we1527.28 will1527.36 undoubtedly1528.15 have1528.88 a1529.52 more1529.67 functional1529.91 use1530.32 of1530.55 the1530.71 sidewalk1530.88 for1531.36 things1531.6 like1531.91 the1532.23 trees1532.32 that1532.63 you're1532.79 looking1532.95 for.1533.19
1533.28 HOLDEN1533.28 -1533.28 And1533.28 will1533.43 the1533.99 plan1534.08 show1535.01 the1535.25 species1535.49 of1535.97 trees1536.13 at1536.45 that1536.61 meeting?1536.69
1537.09 MORRIS1537.09 -1537.09 Yes.1537.09 All1537.57 of1537.81 those1537.97 things1538.13 will1538.37 be1538.53 called1538.61 out,1538.85 quantity,1539.25 species,1540.29 and1541.09 size.1541.41
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1555.62 COHEN1555.62 -1555.62 If1555.62 you1555.86 can1555.93 go1556.1 back1556.34 to1556.65 the1556.89 aerial1557.22 view1557.7 of1557.86 the1558.02 perspective1558.17 view,1558.82 I1559.13 just1559.78 wanna1560.1 challenge1560.89 the1563.03 decision1563.27 to1563.91 make1564.63 a1564.87 flat1565.03 roof1565.27 here.1565.51 I1566.31 didn't1566.47 understand1567.03 the1568.71 rationale.1568.95 But1571.59 even1571.83 if1572.07 I1572.23 did,1572.31 I1572.71 feel1573.11 like1573.35 it's1573.51 not1576.39 the1576.71 right1576.88 approach1577.27 especially1577.84 given1578.23 that1578.55 it1578.71 is1578.79 in1579.27 the1579.52 historic1580.23 district.1580.71 It's1583.52 very1583.67 austere.1584.08 It's1584.71 very,1585.27 I1586.15 wouldn't1586.32 say1586.63 modern,1586.95 but1587.52 the1587.99 platform1588.98 is1589.3 very1589.62 modern1589.86 and1590.26 very1590.42 much1590.66 in1590.9 contrast1591.06 with1591.54 the1592.18 pitched1592.42 roof.1592.74 And1593.3 I1593.46 would1593.54 say,1593.7 as1593.94 an1594.1 example,1594.34 so1594.82 the1595.3 building1595.54 on1596.02 Main1596.26 Street,1596.5 1041596.82 Main1597.38 Street,1597.62 is1598.82 a1599.3 very1599.38 large1599.62 building.1599.86 I1600.18 think1600.26 it's1600.5 like1600.66 a1600.82 six1601.06 story1601.06 building.1601.38 The1602.14 part1602.38 that's1602.46 right1602.7 on1603.03 Main1603.18 Street1603.42 has1604.38 at1604.63 least1604.79 some1605.18 sort1606.3 of,1606.55 you1608.22 know,1608.46 efforts1608.79 to1610.55 recall1610.7 or1611.18 bring1611.74 in1612.07 a1612.22 vocabulary1612.38 of1613.27 pitched1613.42 roofs,1613.83 even1614.14 if1614.38 they're1614.46 just1614.7 small1614.94 dormers.1615.27 Like,1615.83 I'm1616.29 not1616.53 suggesting1616.61 that1617.17 to1617.41 put1617.57 a1617.81 big1618.13 gable1618.37 roof1618.77 over1619.01 the1619.25 entirety1619.41 of1619.89 it,1619.97 but1620.13 some1620.93 sort1621.25 of1621.57 articulation1621.81 that1623.01 responds1625.09 to1625.73 or1625.97 speaks1626.21 to1626.69 the1627.89 historic1628.13 nature1628.53 of1628.85 this1629.01 house1629.17 and1629.41 many1629.57 of1629.81 the1629.89 area1630.05 that1630.29 do1630.53 have1630.69 a1631.06 gable1631.13 roof,1631.46 I1631.7 think1631.86 would1632.1 really1632.26 help1633.3 sort1634.1 of1634.34 counter1634.49 the1634.89 austerity1635.3 and1636.98 starkness1637.06 of1637.7 what1638.17 I'm1638.34 seeing1638.58 here.1638.82 I1639.06 just1639.3 find1639.54 them1639.78 where1640.34 too1640.74 dissonant,1643.22 the1644.67 two1644.83 styles.1645.07 So,1645.47 that's1645.63 just1645.79 my1646.11 aesthetic1646.35 comment.1646.83 It1647.47 has1647.79 nothing1648.03 to1648.27 do1648.43 with1648.75 usable1649.07 space1649.79 or1650.11 anything1650.27 like1650.59 that1650.83 or1650.99 height.1651.23 Just1651.47 yeah.1652.27
1652.83 MORRIS1652.83 -1652.83 I1652.83 did1652.99 catch1653.31 the1653.63 fact1653.79 that1653.95 you're1654.27 a1654.67 member1654.67 of1654.67 the1654.67 planning1654.75 board.1655.07 I'm1655.31 sorry,1655.39 but1655.63 I1655.87 missed1655.95 your1656.19 name.1656.35
1657.11 COHEN1657.11 -1657.11 Jason1657.11 Cohen.1657.51
1657.98 MORRIS1657.98 -1657.98 Jason.1657.98 Thank1658.3 you,1658.54 Jason.1658.7 I'm1660.54 smiling1660.94 to1661.35 all1661.59 of1661.74 that1661.83 right1662.07 now1662.3 because,1662.63 I1664.87 asked1665.02 the1665.18 very1665.35 same1665.59 question1665.83 of1666.3 our1666.46 architect1666.63 when1667.02 I1667.18 first1667.35 met1667.59 him1667.83 because1667.98 I1668.7 live1668.78 in1669.02 18951669.18 Victorian1669.98 home,1670.54 which1671.11 is,1671.35 you1671.59 know,1671.66 starkly1672.38 different1672.86 from1673.18 this.1673.34 But1673.58 this1674.38 largely1674.7 was1676.86 as1677.02 a1677.18 result1677.26 of1677.66 the,1677.9 it1678.54 was1678.7 dictated1679.02 essentially1679.9 by1680.46 the1680.62 historic1680.78 district1681.18 commission.1681.58 Okay.1682.22
1684.14 SCHREIBER1684.14 -1684.14 I1684.14 do1684.54 wanna1684.7 clarify1684.94 a1685.34 few1685.42 things.1685.58 I1685.9 think1685.98 it's1686.22 nice1686.46 to1686.7 have1686.78 a1686.94 planning1687.02 board1687.34 member1687.58 here.1687.82 There1689.08 was1689.23 a1689.39 few1689.47 points1689.79 that1690.19 were1690.28 made,1690.43 and1690.6 I1690.76 just1690.84 wanna1690.99 clarify1691.32 process1691.63 wise1692.04 where1692.43 we're1692.67 at1692.84 and1693.08 what1693.23 this1693.47 project1693.63 is1694.04 versus1694.28 others.1694.6 Because1695.32 it's1695.63 in1695.79 the1695.95 Historic1696.12 District,1696.6 it1697.47 is1697.63 not1697.79 in1698.04 the1698.28 MBTA1698.52 overlay1699.08 portion1699.55 of1700.19 the1700.36 new1700.52 zoning,1702.12 so1702.28 I1702.28 just1702.44 wanna1702.6 make1702.84 sure1702.92 that1703.08 that1703.32 was1703.48 clear.1703.64 It1703.96 actually1704.12 is1704.44 a1704.68 project1704.76 that's1705.08 going1705.4 to1705.56 the1705.72 zoning1705.88 board1706.2 of1707 appeals1707.08 for1707.4 an1707.56 approval,1707.72 but1708.76 it1709 also1709.16 is1709.72 in1709.88 a1710.04 historic1710.2 district,1710.6 so1711.08 it1711.32 needed1713.08 a1713.24 review1713.4 and1714.2 approval1714.44 by1714.92 the1715.08 historic1715.16 district1715.56 commission.1715.88 Any1716.83 changes1716.98 to1717.38 the1717.63 exterior1717.78 after1718.42 their1718.74 approval1719.07 will1719.87 require1720.11 it1720.51 to1720.66 go1720.83 back1720.98 to1721.22 the1721.3 commission1721.46 as1721.94 well.1722.11 They1722.98 spent1723.3 four1724.11 meetings1724.42 talking1725.63 about1725.87 this1726.18 building1728.27 at1728.66 that1728.83 process,1729.98 at1730.94 the1731.1 beginning1731.26 of1731.58 this.1731.74
1732.46 FRED1732.46 SULLIVAN1732.46 -1732.46 RESIDENT1732.46 -1732.46 What's1732.46 the1732.78 zoning1732.94 approval?1733.58
1733.82 SCHREIBER1733.82 -1733.82 I1733.82 wasn't1733.98 aware.1734.3 But1734.62 I1734.78 just1735.1 wanna1735.34 make1735.58 sure1735.74 this1736.06 has1736.54 a1736.7 lot1736.78 of,1736.94 so1737.18 there's1737.42 a1737.74 zoning1737.9 board1738.38 of1739.02 appeals1739.18 approval1739.74 for1739.9 a1740.06 special1740.14 permit.1740.46
1741.9 F1741.9 SULLIVAN1741.9 -1741.9 I'm1741.9 sorry.1742.06 Because1742.38 what1743.02 about1743.34 that1743.58 building1743.74 needs1744.14 a1744.38 special1744.46 permit?1744.86 Because1746.43 of1746.76 what,1746.91 is1747.32 it1747.47 a1747.79 larger1747.95 occupancy?1748.36 Is1748.84 that1748.99 what1749.15 it1749.23 is?1749.32
1749.55 SCHREIBER1749.55 -1749.55 The1749.55 use.1750.6
1750.99 MORRIS1750.99 -1750.99 Multifamily1750.99 use.1751.71
1752.36 SCHREIBER1752.36 -1752.36 And1752.36 the1753.47 size1753.71 triggers1754.36 the1754.67 site1754.67 plan.1754.67
1754.67 COHEN1754.67 -1754.67 So1756.67 it's1756.99 not1757.32 in1757.55 the1757.79 WS1757.95 Q1758.53 21758.69 zone?1758.93
1759.49 SCHREIBER1759.49 -1759.49 It's1759.73 in1759.97 the1760.21 WS1760.29 Q1760.77 zone.1760.93 It1761.25 replaced1761.41 the1761.89 CB.1762.13 But1763.25 it1763.41 is1763.49 not1763.81 in1764.13 the1764.37 overlay.1764.53 That1765.25 means1765.41 it's1765.65 by1765.89 right.1766.05 And1767.17 if1767.33 it1767.57 was,1767.65 then1768.13 you1768.93 as1769.17 the1769.33 planning1769.41 board1769.73 member,1769.89 who1770.29 would1771.08 be1771.24 a1771.39 decision1771.63 making1771.96 body1772.6 wouldn't1772.91 be1773.8 asking1773.96 questions.1774.36
1776.6 COHEN1776.6 -1776.6 Okay.1776.6 Well,1776.91 but1777.08 it's1777.15 good1777.39 to1777.56 know1777.72 that1777.88 because1778.12 so1778.52 if1778.76 we1778.91 were1778.99 to1779.24 ask1779.32 any1779.56 questions1779.8 at1780.12 the1780.28 planning1780.36 board1780.76 hearing1781.08 about1781.48 the1781.8 design1781.96 of1782.36 the1782.43 building,1782.6 it's1783.48 a1784.6 moot1784.76 point.1785.08
1785.54 SCHREIBER1785.54 -1785.54 Well,1785.7 this1786.5 is1786.74 not1786.9 the1787.06 kind1787.22 of1787.46 place1787.46 to1787.7 have1787.86 that1788.02 conversation,1788.26 but1788.74 this1789.78 is1789.94 one1790.02 of1790.26 the1790.34 most1790.42 complicated1791.22 as1791.78 far1791.94 as,1792.18 like,1792.34 you1792.98 know,1793.14 it's1793.22 like1793.46 having1793.7 a1793.94 conservation1794.1 commission1794.66 review1795.14 and1795.38 approval1795.54 as1796.02 well1796.18 as1796.34 but1796.58 it's1796.82 actually1796.98 the1797.38 exterior1797.54 design1798.02 of1798.34 the1798.5 building1798.58 is1799.41 under1799.65 historic1800.22 district1800.7 commission1800.7 for1801.65 final1802.22 review1802.46 and1802.86 approval.1802.93 The1803.82 material,1803.98 types1805.98 of1806.22 windows,1806.38 the1806.78 materials1806.93 of1807.26 the1807.41 windows,1807.49 the1809.17 type1809.41 of1809.65 material1809.74 it's1810.13 a1810.3 wooden1810.46 building1810.86 with1811.74 wooden1811.98 windows.1812.3 It's1812.78 not.1813.02 And1813.69 so1813.85 all1814.01 of1814.13 those1814.25 pieces1814.49 are1814.89 prescribed1815.05 by1815.45 the1815.69 historic1815.93 district1816.41 commission.1816.73 Outside,1817.77 just1818.17 wearing1818.33 my1818.57 conservation1819.13 agent1820.89 hat1821.29 for1821.61 that1821.85 piece.1822.09 I1822.25 just1822.41 wanted1822.57 to1822.81 clarify1822.89 so1824.09 we1824.25 don't1824.41 pay1824.65 on1824.81 half1825.05 of,1825.93 thinking1826.25 that1826.25 it's1826.41 a1826.65 by1827.1 right1827.34 project1827.49 in1827.97 the1828.13 new1830.21 overlay.1830.45 It's1831.89 in1832.13 the1832.3 new1832.38 zones1832.62 but1832.93 not1833.17 in1833.26 the1833.41 overlay.1833.49
1834.38 COHEN1834.38 -1834.38 Okay.1834.38 But1835.1 just1835.34 so1835.65 when1836.13 it1836.45 does,1836.62 it's1838.21 gonna1838.45 go1838.78 to1838.93 the1839.02 planning1839.17 board1839.58 and1839.89 then1840.06 the1840.3 ZBA1840.45 is1840.86 the1841.02 SPGA,1842.06 right?1842.45
1842.45 SCHREIBER1842.45 -1842.45 Correct.1842.45
1843.47 COHEN1843.47 -1843.47 So1843.47 it1843.47 is1843.63 still1843.79 gonna1843.95 come1844.19 in1844.35 front1844.59 of1844.59 the1844.59 planning1844.67 board.1844.99
1845.71 SCHREIBER1845.71 -1845.71 It1845.71 will.1845.87
1846.19 COHEN1846.19 -1846.19 At1846.19 which1846.51 time1846.75
1848.43 SCHREIBER1848.43 -1848.43 You'll1848.43 provide1848.43 an1848.43 advisory1848.43 review1850.43 of1850.83 it1850.91 for1851.55 the1851.79 zoning1851.87 board.1852.19
1852.43 COHEN1852.43 -1852.43 Including1852.43 aesthetics1853.07 that1853.55 have1853.71 already1853.87 been1854.27 decided1854.67 by1855.15 the1855.39 historic1855.79 commission.1856.51
1856.51 SCHREIBER1856.51 -1856.51 Correct.1856.51 And1857.62 so1858.41 anything1858.73 that1859.13 comes1859.45 out1859.69 of1859.93 that1860.02 would1860.34 have1860.58 to1860.73 then1860.82 go1861.06 back1861.21 to1861.38 historic.1861.45
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1868.34 BER1868.34 -1868.34 As1868.34 Terry1868.58 mentioned1868.97 before,1869.38 we1870.68 have1870.92 got1871.08 through1871.32 '171871.48 versions,1872.44 171873.16 different1873.72 options1874.04 for1874.44 this1874.6 project.1874.76 And1875.16 some1875.88 of1876.12 them1876.2 had1876.6 cable1877 roofs1877.4 and1877.64 some1877.8 of1877.96 them1878.12 had1878.36 dormers.1878.84 And1880.12 the1880.52 historic1880.76 district1881.24 commission1881.88 saw1882.84 many1883.39 of1883.71 those1883.8 versions,1884.91 and1886.12 they1886.12 had1886.2 feedback.1887.63 And1889.8 this1890.04 is1890.36 what1890.52 we1890.76 arrived1890.91 at1892.12 together.1892.12 And1892.52 I1892.76 think1892.91 what1893.15 we're1893.39 trying1893.56 to1893.95 do1894.12 is1894.28 to1894.52 not1894.84 overpower1895.23 the1896.36 historic1897.46 building.1897.78 The1899.14 footprint1899.3 of1899.86 the1900.1 new1900.18 proposed1900.42 building1900.82 is1901.22 larger1901.46 than1901.86 the1902.1 historic.1902.34 So1902.74 if1902.98 you1903.14 keep1903.62 the1903.78 same1903.94 pitch1904.18 and1904.58 you1904.74 go1904.98 with1905.38 the1905.62 similar1905.78 roof,1906.18 you1906.42 try1906.58 to1906.74 mimic,1906.9 you're1907.7 gonna1907.86 get1908.5 up1908.66 to1908.9 a1909.14 much1909.22 higher1909.54 point.1909.94 And1911.63 we1912.98 thought1913.07 and1913.55 the1913.87 historical1914.18 commission1914.66 agreed1915.22 about1915.63 this1915.87 and1916.42 was1916.51 specifically1916.83 objectionable.1917.46
1918.42 COHEN1918.42 -1918.42 I1918.42 understand.1918.83 And1919.22 again,1919.46 it's1919.87 I1920.27 don't1920.35 wanna1920.51 belabor1920.74 the1921.14 point1921.22 because1921.46 apparently,1921.94 it's1922.51 not1922.74 really1922.98 worth1923.14 discussing.1924.05 I1924.45 was1924.93 more1925.09 getting1925.33 at1925.65 not1925.81 an1925.97 entire1926.13 gable1927.41 roof1927.73 but1928.05 just1928.29 dormers1928.53 or1929.09 something1929.25 with1929.89 a1930.53 peak1930.61 or1930.93 a1931.09 pitch1931.17 that1931.73 would,1931.97 you1932.45 know,1932.61 have1933.65 the1933.81 same1934.05 slope1935.01 as1935.41 the1935.57 existing1935.73 roof,1936.13 just1936.45 kind1936.69 of1936.93 to1937.01 make1937.17 people1937.49 think1937.97 that1938.21 it1938.45 is1938.61 part1939.53 of1939.69 the1939.86 same,1940.45 it's1941.13 not1941.29 the1941.45 same1941.53 building,1941.69 but1942.1 the1942.26 same1942.34 project.1942.49 In1942.97 any1943.05 case,1943.29 I'll,1946.97 let,1948.49
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
1958.87 JAMIE1958.87 GORDON1958.87 -1958.87 HISTORICAL1958.87 COMMISSION1958.87 MEMBER1958.87 -1958.87 Hi.1958.87 My1959.35 name's1959.43 Jamie1959.75 Gordon.1960.15 I1960.55 live1960.71 at1960.87 841961.03 Fitchburg1961.51 Street.1961.91 Yeah.1964.95 So1965.19 closer1965.67 to1966.07 the1966.15 Lowell1966.39 School.1966.63 Not1967.48 close1967.72 to1968.04 here1968.52 but1969.33 I'm1969.33 a1969.48 member1969.64 of1969.96 the1970.13 historic1970.28 commission.1970.61 I'm1971.01 speaking1971.16 in1971.48 a1971.57 personal1971.72 capacity1972.13 tonight.1973.4 And1973.64 I1973.64 also1973.8 have1974.37 children1974.61 at1974.92 the1975.09 Russell1975.24 Cooperative1975.57 Preschool1975.96 at1976.44 351976.61 Church1977.01 Street,1977.33 which1977.64 is1977.88 across1978.68 the1979.09 street1979.24 and1979.48 a1979.64 little1979.72 bit1979.96 down1980.13 from1980.44 this1980.68 development.1980.85 And1982.01 I1982.25 just1982.57 personally1982.73 wanna1983.05 say1983.29 I've1983.45 listened1983.69 to1984.01 two1984.25 of1984.33 the1984.49 four1984.57 historic1984.81 district1985.21 commission1985.53 meetings,1985.93 and1986.33 I1986.49 commend1986.65 you1987.05 for1987.61 working1987.85 so1988.25 hard1988.57 to1989.37 incorporate1989.61 a1990.17 new1990.41 building1990.65 into1991.05 this1991.37 complex.1991.61 As1992.65 probably1993.37 most1993.77 of1993.93 the1994.09 neighbors1994.17 know,1994.49 and1994.65 I1994.81 see1994.97 every1995.13 day1995.37 when1995.53 I1995.77 walk1995.85 to1996.09 school,1996.25 it's1997.08 an1997.23 asphalt1997.56 parking1997.95 lot1998.28 right1998.67 now.1998.84 It1999.47 is1999.63 not1999.8 providing2000.04 much2000.52 value2000.84 to2001.56 that2001.63 corner.2001.95 It's2002.43 not2002.67 activating2002.99 that2003.47 corner.2004.28
2004.43 And2004.43 this2004.43 has2004.6 gone2004.76 through2005.08 many2005.39 iterations2005.8 design2006.36 wise.2006.67 I2006.99 believe2007.08 also2007.39 a2007.71 lot2007.8 with2007.95 the2008.19 cornice2008.36 that2008.84 you'll2009.08 be2009.23 adding,2009.39 the2009.63 decorative2009.71 cornice.2010.28 And2011.98 I2012.14 see2012.38 this2012.54 as2014.06 an2014.14 opportunity2014.38 to2015.58 revitalize2016.78 that2017.58 space2017.9 and2018.86 also2019.1 create2019.5 more2019.74 housing,2019.98 and2021.26 to2021.58 put2021.66 it2021.9 in2022.06 a2022.3 transit2022.54 oriented2023.02 area2023.58 so2023.98 we2024.14 don't2024.38 have2024.62 to2024.86 have2025.02 cars.2025.18 And2026.42 I2026.99 actually,2027.07 personally,2027.38 I2027.79 looked2027.95 at2028.18 the2029.23 proposal2029.38 for2030.03 the2030.83 complex2030.99 that's2031.38 going2031.55 to2031.79 surround2031.95 the2032.27 Harriet2032.35 Jacobs2032.75 House2033.07 in2033.23 Cambridge,2033.38 and2033.79 I2033.95 actually2034.11 prefer2034.35 this2034.75 design2035.07 that2035.38 you've2035.55 created2035.87 to2036.27 the2036.35 one2036.42 that2036.59 they're2036.75 going2036.9 to2037.14 put2037.23 around2037.55 that2038.03 building.2038.27 So2038.94 I2039.18 just2039.26 wanted2039.5 to2039.9 voice2040.14 my2040.46 support2040.7 for2041.02 this2041.18 design2041.42 and2041.74 for2041.9 this2042.06 project.2042.22
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
F2046.78 SULLIVAN2046.78 -2046.78 So,2046.78 my2048.38 name2048.54 is2048.7 Fred2048.86 Sullivan.2049.1 I2049.66 live2052.78 in2052.86 Watertown.2052.86 Watertown's2056.39 business2057.03 problem2057.43 is2057.82 not2057.99 that2058.22 we're2058.3 looking2058.47 for2058.78 property.2058.95 Watertown's2059.34 business2059.91 problem2060.3 is2060.7 we're2060.95 trying2061.11 to2061.43 save2061.66 Watertown2062.39 as2063.34 it2063.51 existed2063.91 before2064.39 in2064.86 history,2066.8 right?2066.96 We2066.96 have2066.96 an2067.2 historic2067.36 building2067.76 that2068.24 was2068.72 built2069.84 in2070.08 1830.2070.24 I2072.48 can2073.76 only2074 speculate2074.4 that2075.52 the2075.76 reason2075.92 you're2076.16 going2076.48 up2076.8 three2077.04 floors2077.28 is2077.76 because2077.92 you're2078.16 trying2078.32 to2078.56 maximize2078.72 the2079.36 amount2079.52 of2079.84 property2080 that2080.4 you2080.64 can2080.72 put2080.96 on2081.2 it?2081.36 Because2081.89 you2082.2 could2082.28 clearly2082.53 drop2083.01 that2083.24 down2083.48 with2083.72 a2083.96 doorman2084.13 and2084.53 make2084.61 it2084.76 a2084.84 lot2084.93 more2085.09 aesthetic.2085.41 And2086.44 the2086.84 other2087.09 thing2087.32 is2087.57 quite2087.72 is,2088.61 the2088.76 other2088.93 consequence2089.24 of2090.53 maximizing2090.84 the2091.64 amount2091.8 of2092.61 nine2093.01 units2093.24 in2093.72 that2093.89 property2094.13 is2095.02 you2095.18 had2095.26 Summer2095.66 Street.2095.9 I2096.22 don't2096.3 know2096.46 if2096.62 you've2096.7 done2097.02 transportation2097.98 or2098.7 whatever2098.86 kind2099.18 of2099.62 reviews2100.38 of2100.86 that2101.02 street.2101.26 It's2101.66 a2101.9 very2101.98 busy2102.22 street.2102.54 You2102.86 have2103.02 a2103.26 parking,2103.42 the2104.46 entrance2104.62 and2104.94 the2105.1 exit2105.26 is2105.58 right2105.82 on2105.98 the,2106.46 at2106.7 the2106.94 traffic2107.02 light.2107.42 And2109.01 so,2111.16 I2111.49 feel2111.64 that2111.97 what2112.2 you're2112.36 doing2113.24 aesthetically2114.05 is2115.24 1,2115.64 minimizing2116.84 the2117.49 fact2117.64 it's2117.8 in2118.05 the2118.13 historic2118.29 district.2118.77 And2119.57 2,2119.89 creating2121.57 something2121.97 that2122.37 is2122.69 really2123.01 its2123.41 value2123.73 is2124.21 that2124.37 you2124.53 can2124.69 put2124.77 eiht2125.01 buildings2125.25 in2125.57 it2125.73 and2125.89 not2126.13 that2126.37 you2126.53 can2126.69 make2126.93 it2127.17 aesthetically2127.33 aligned2128.13 to2128.77 the2128.93 historic2129.09 house.2129.65 Why2131.09 couldn't2131.33 you2131.57 just2131.73 make2132.05 it2132.21 five2132.37 units?2132.53 What's2133.82 the2133.97 big2134.14 deal2134.22 with2134.61 making2134.78 it2135.02 five2135.26 units?2135.41 Drop2135.74 that2136.06 third2136.22 unit2136.45 and2136.78 make2136.78 that2137.02 dormer2137.26 there.2137.66 And2138.06 then2138.22 it2138.45 would2138.54 be2138.7 have2138.86 a2138.97 key2139.1 to2139.34 it2139.49 there.2139.58
2141.49 BER2141.49 -2141.49 We2141.49 have2141.66 here2141.89 with2142.45 us,2142.61 the2143.58 owner.2143.82 The2145.1 owner2145.26 and2145.66 the2146.14 real2147.26 estate2147.49 professionals2147.97 that2149.11 work2149.19 on2149.51 this,2149.67 project.2150.07 And2150.47 his2151.11 determination2151.35 was2151.99 that,2152.23 in2152.71 terms2152.95 of2153.35 the2153.51 financial2154.23 viability2154.87 of2155.27 this2155.51 project,2155.67 this2156.15 is2156.39 a2156.55 sweet2156.71 spot2156.95 of,2157.19
2157.91 F2157.91 SULLIVAN2157.91 -2157.91 To2158.07 make2158.63 it2158.79 viable2158.95 financially?2159.35
2160.31 BER2160.31 -2160.31 Yes.2160.31 And2164.59 some2164.59 of2164.91 those2164.99 172165.63 versions2166.51 that2166.91 we've,2167.14 went2170.27 higher.2170.59
2171.7 F2171.7 SULLIVAN2171.7 -2171.7 Have2171.7 you2171.86 done2172.03 a2172.18 version2172.27 where2172.59 you2172.74 made2172.91 it2173.14 lower?2173.31 Have2173.7 you2173.86 made2173.95 a2174.07 version2174.18 of2174.51 the2174.66 five2174.74 units?2174.91
2175.22 BER2175.22 -2175.22 We2175.22 had2175.39 a2175.63 version2175.7 of2176.11 six.2176.27 We2178.11 actually2179.78 looked2180.1 at2180.34 the2180.5 historic,2182.02 the2183.3 three2183.3 homes.2183.3 We2185.46 also2187.7 had2188.02 versions2188.18 of2188.58 five2188.9 stories,2189.14 much2190.9 more2191.22 density.2191.38 We2192.34 made2192.74 a2193.06 conscious2193.46 decision2194.1 here2194.66 to2195.51 design2196.22 a2196.94 building2197.11 that2197.59 needs2198.14 no2198.55 elevator2199.26 that,2200.7 you2201.48 know,2201.93 work2202.55 in2204.07 component2204.48 with2204.63 a2204.7 single2204.78 stair2207.11 in2207.59 it.2207.82 So,2209.41 I2211.65 think2211.81 this2212.61 design2212.85 is2213.49 restrained2214.61 compared2215.97 to2216.37 what2217.17 could2217.65 have2217.89 been2218.05 allowable2219.25 here2221.57 the2221.73 natural2221.82 controls.2222.3
2223.09 F2223.09 SULLIVAN2223.09 -2223.09 It2223.09 just2223.26 looks2223.41 like2223.66 you're2223.82 trying2223.97 to2224.3 maximize2224.45 property.2226.3 You're2226.86 trying2227.09 to2227.34 maximize2227.41 units2227.97 at2228.61 the2228.86 expense2229.01 of2229.41 aesthetic.2229.57 And2231.09 at2231.34 the2231.49 expense2231.66 of2232.45 the2232.7 traffic2234.93 because2235.01 it's2235.01 gonna2235.25 be2235.45 a2235.65 mess2235.73 with2236.05 traffic.2236.29
2236.69 BER2236.69 -2236.69 In2236.69 terms2236.93 of2237.25 traffic,2237.41 this2238.69 curb2239.65 cut2239.81 is2240.05 roughly2240.21 where2240.93 it2241.33 is2241.57 today,2241.89 where2243.17 it2243.33 exists.2243.49 This2244.61 is2245.09 the2245.33 end2245.49 of2245.65 the2245.81 property.2246.05 There's2246.61 no2246.93 way2247.09 for2247.33 us2247.49 to2247.73 move2247.81 the2248.05 curb2248.21 cut2248.45 anywhere2248.77 further2250.26 out2250.49 from2250.97 the2251.38 intersection.2251.69 No2252.82 one2253.05 really2253.21 wants2253.53 to2253.78 see2253.86 a2254.01 curb2254.09 cut2254.34 on2254.57 it.2254.82
2255.05 F2255.05 SULLIVAN2255.05 -2255.05 But2255.05 you're2255.3 introducing2255.53 nine2256.26 units.2256.41
2259.3 BER2259.3 -2259.3 The2259.3 existing,2260.89 parking2260.89 lot2261.38 that's2261.61 there.2261.86 There2266.17 is2266.41 nothing2266.41 stopping2266.41 the2266.41 owner2267.05 from2267.53 actually2267.85 renting2268.73 those2269.13 spaces2269.45 and2270.01 generate2270.33 all2270.73 those2270.89 car2271.13 trips2271.37 in2271.69 and2271.77 out2271.93 of2272.17 that2272.25 parking2272.49 lot2272.89 without2273.45 any2273.93 development.2274.17
2278.04 F2280.52 SULLIVAN2280.52 -2280.52 My2281.8 critique2282.04 is2282.36 that2282.52 aesthetically2283.32 this2283.47 doesn't2283.47 work.2283.8 It2285.24 looks2285.32 like2285.47 it's2285.64 the2285.88 maximizing2286.04 of2286.99 property.2287.62 Watertown2287.62 doesn't2288.1 have2288.42 a2288.66 problem2288.74 with2289.94 its2290.18 tax2290.42 revenues2290.74 right2291.3 now.2291.54 It's2291.86 just2292.26 the2292.58 opposite,2293.7 right?2293.94 We2293.94 have2294.1 a2294.26 lot2294.34 of2294.58 corporations2294.74 coming2295.46 in.2295.78 Our2296.34 tax2296.66 base2296.9 is2297.22 now2297.38 51%2297.7 corporate.2298.74 152299.46 years2300.02 ago,2300.34 it2300.66 was2300.74 21%,2301.38 202301.79 years2302.03 ago.2302.74 So,2303.55 the2304.11 business2304.27 problem2304.59 of2304.99 every2305.14 citizen2305.39 in2305.86 Watertown2306.03 is2306.83 to2307.07 how2307.22 do2307.39 we2307.55 make2307.7 sure2307.95 that2308.59 we2308.83 do2309.07 not2309.22 lose2309.55 the2310.03 fabric2310.18 of2310.59 what2310.74 Watertown2310.99 is2311.47 all2311.55 about.2311.7 And2312.18 that2312.34 includes2312.51 the2312.99 aesthetic.2313.14 And2313.55 you2313.7 have2313.79 an2313.95 18352314.51 house2315.07 and2316.02 you're2316.1 putting2316.34 in2316.5 a2316.66 block2316.9 house2317.14 beside2317.38 it.2317.78 That's2317.78 what2318.02 I2318.18 think2318.26 you're2318.42 doing.2318.58 And2319.38 you're2319.54 doing2319.7 it2319.94 to2320.02 maximize2320.18 the2320.74 amount2320.9 of2321.14 property2321.22 you2321.78 put2321.86 on,2322.9 so2323.14 that's2323.14 my2323.46 opinion.2323.54
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2330.43 M2330.43 SULLIVAN2330.43 -2330.43 And2330.43 I2330.59 understand2330.82 how2331.86 hard2332.11 you've2332.34 worked2332.59 with2332.82 the2332.98 historic2333.22 commission,2333.7 I2334.26 do.2334.43 But2335.3 if2335.63 all2335.78 of2336.03 us2336.11 were2336.34 to2336.59 walk2336.66 down2336.91 there2337.14 right2337.39 now,2337.63 and2338.26 stand2338.59 on2338.91 that2339.14 corner,2339.7 and2340.51 look2340.74 up2340.98 to2341.22 see2341.39 how2341.63 high2341.86 this2342.11 is2342.43 going2342.59 to2342.91 be,2342.98 and2343.67 how2343.99 wide2344.23 this2344.63 is2344.95 going2345.03 to2345.19 be,2345.75 it's2346.63 almost2346.87 like2347.19 tomorrow2347.43 morning,2347.83 I'm2348.31 going2348.47 to2348.71 measure2348.87 122349.35 feet2349.67 and2350.39 just2350.71 to2350.95 see2351.11 if2351.43 you2351.59 can2351.75 even2351.91 fit2352.79 a2353.35 122353.51 foot2353.83 sidewalk2354.55 in2354.95 there2355.19 when2355.43 you2355.59 put2355.75 a2355.99 building2356.07 up2356.55 like2356.71 this.2356.95 I2360.89 can't2361.05 imagine2361.36 it.2361.84 And2362.49 I2362.8 know2362.97 the2363.13 property2363.29 hasn't2363.77 been2364.09 taken2364.32 care2364.64 of,2365.68 right?2366.8 And2366.8 over2367.13 the2367.29 years,2367.45 it2367.77 just2367.93 hasn't.2368.09 It2368.57 has2368.72 gone2368.97 through2369.2 many2369.45 hands.2369.84 It's2370.24 been,2370.49 you2371.21 know,2371.37 different2371.53 medical2372.49 offices2372.97 or2373.61 something2373.85 else2374.17 like2374.41 that,2374.57 and2374.89 it2374.97 hasn't2375.13 been2375.45 taken2375.69 care2376.01 of.2376.17 So2376.41 that's2376.65 an2376.97 easy2377.05 to2378.09 say,2378.25 you2378.49 know,2378.65 anything2379.05 will2379.45 make2379.69 this2379.93 property2380.17 look2380.73 nice.2380.97 You2381.77 know,2381.93 somebody2382.17 putting2382.65 time2382.97 in2383.29 it2383.45 could2383.69 make2383.85 it2384.09 look2384.25 nice.2384.49 But2385.22 I2385.39 absolutely2385.63 agree,2387.79 you2388.03 are2388.03 shooting2388.66 up2389.14 a2389.31 building2389.47 so2390.18 high,2390.35 so2391.7 high.2391.95 I2392.18 think,2392.35 actually,2392.59 the2392.99 building2393.14 is2393.55 higher2393.79 than2394.74 the2395.39 row2395.63 of2395.86 stores2396.03 that2396.51 you're2396.74 coming2396.99 into2397.22 Mount2397.63 Auburn2397.86 Street.2398.35 And2399.82 I2400.38 think2400.54 about2400.78 the2401.1 two2401.26 family2401.5 behind2401.98 there,2402.46 and2403.34 I2403.5 wonder2403.66 what2404.06 they're2404.22 thinking2404.62 about2405.02 waking2405.74 up2406.14 in2406.38 the2406.54 morning2406.62 and2407.18 no2407.34 longer2407.58 seeing2408.06 Mount2408.46 Auburn2408.7 Street,2409.1 but2409.42 seeing,2409.66 how2411.34 many2411.58 stories,2411.82 four2411.82 stories?2411.82
2413.18 MORRIS2413.42 -2413.42 Three2413.42 stories.2413.42
2414.09 M2414.66 SULLIVAN2414.66 -2414.66 Going2414.66 up?2414.97 I2416.09 mean,2416.26 think2416.49 about2416.82 that.2417.14 And2417.38 so2417.86 we2418.09 feel2418.34 strongly.2418.66 This2419.14 is2419.38 where2420.18 I2420.41 live.2420.57 This2421.22 is2421.38 where2421.61 we2421.86 raise2422.09 our2422.34 children2422.49 and2422.97 our2423.14 grandchildren.2423.38 And2424.82 aesthetically,2425.06 does2425.78 it2425.93 look2426.09 great?2426.34 No.2426.66 It2426.89 doesn't.2427.06 It2427.69 could2427.85 use2428.09 a2428.17 good2428.33 landscaper2428.73 in2429.21 there,2429.45 but2429.93 whoever,2430.73 you2431.37 know,2431.53 you2431.93 have2432.17 to2432.41 do2432.49 it2432.65 to2433.53 make2433.69 it2433.85 look2434.01 nice.2434.25 But2434.89 putting2435.29 up2435.61 a2435.85 three2436.01 story2436.33 building2436.89 on2437.21 the2437.37 corner2437.53 takes2438.97 away2439.37 any2440.25 kind2440.49 of2440.73 sight2440.97 into2441.37 Summer2442.25 Street,2443.82 right?2444.07 It2444.07 looks2444.14 like2444.55 a,2446.07 you2446.47 know,2446.63 a2446.95 very2447.11 box2447.51 house.2447.91 I2448.3 don't2448.47 know2448.63 what2448.79 it's2449.03 made2449.18 of.2449.43 Is2449.66 it2449.82 what2450.07 is2450.22 it2450.47 the2450.95 materials2451.11 being2452.14 used2452.39 to2452.55 build?2452.7
2453.03 MORRIS2453.03 -2453.03 Essentially2453.03 wood.2453.51
2453.91 BER2453.91 -2453.91 It's2453.91 wood2454.55 siding.2454.86
2456.68 MORRIS2457.4 -2457.4 Consistent2457.4 with2457.8 the2457.96 historic2458.18 house.2459.2
2459.32 M2459.32 SULLIVAN2459.32 -2459.32 And2459.8 it2460.12 just2460.36 doesn't2460.68 go2461 with,2461.16 you2461.96 know,2462.12 if2462.36 you2462.52 go2462.68 up2462.92 the2463.08 street2463.16 and2463.48 you2463.8 see2463.96 Armand2464.2 Dillon's2464.52 property,2465 and2465.32 you2465.64 see2465.8 the2465.96 church,2466.12 and2466.44 you2466.68 see2466.76 where2467 I2467.32 live,2467.48 it2468.12 doesn't2468.2 fit2468.68 into2469 the2470.86 historic2471.11 district.2471.59 It2473.91 just2474.07 doesn't2474.3 fit2474.63 into2474.86 it.2475.11 It's2475.34 like2475.51 you2475.82 are,2476.3 absolutely2476.86 a2477.51 house2477.66 was2477.91 purchased.2478.22 I2479.11 wanna2479.26 make2479.59 as2479.91 much2480.14 money2480.39 as2480.7 I2480.86 can,2481.03 and2481.95 so2482.19 I'm2482.35 going2482.59 to2482.83 go2482.99 to2483.15 the2483.31 town,2483.63 and2483.63 I'm2483.87 going2484.03 to2484.43 get2484.59 some2484.83 cash2485.07 here,2485.39 and2485.71 I'm2485.87 gonna2485.95 make2486.27 it.2486.43 And2486.83 we're2487.07 gonna2487.31 throw2487.55 up2487.79 a2487.95 building2488.03 and2488.51 all2488.67 of2488.83 you2488.99 turn2489.23 around2489.47 and2489.79 go2489.87 home2490.11 to2490.27 your2490.43 homes.2490.59 And2491.39 we2492.11 have2492.27 this2492.51 building2492.75 that2493.15 really2493.47 does2493.79 not2494.03 follow2494.35 historic2495.07 commission,2496.84 not2497.07 historic2497.07 commission,2497.56 but2497.95 historical2498.28 building.2498.91 It2500.52 just2500.68 doesn't.2501.47 It2501.95 doesn't2502.11 have2502.91 any2503.07 character.2503.39 It2503.88 doesn't2504.04 have2504.52 a2504.76 porch.2504.91 It2505.32 doesn't,2505.39 you2506.2 know.2507.07 I2507.24 don't2507.39 know.2507.64 I2507.88 just,2508.43 I2508.59 mean,2508.76 I2509.07 see2509.16 the2509.39 perennials,2509.56 and2510.11 I2510.36 agree.2510.52 Putting2511.25 in2511.57 trees,2511.73 I2512.21 don't2512.29 know2512.53 where2512.77 you're2513.01 going2513.17 to2513.49 fit2513.57 a2513.81 tree.2513.89 There's2515.33 no2515.65 way2515.81 you2515.97 can2516.13 fit2516.29 a2516.53 tree2516.61 in2516.85 there.2516.93 You2517.17 have2517.33 to2517.57 stand2517.73 on2518.05 that2518.29 property,2518.53 and2519.25 you2519.57 have2519.73 to2519.97 look2520.05 at2520.29 these2520.37 measurements,2520.69 and2521.41 you2521.57 have2521.73 to2521.89 get2522.05 the2522.21 truth2522.37 about2522.77 what2523.09 is2523.65 happening2523.81 here.2524.29 And2525.3 once2525.45 you2525.69 see2525.93 it,2526.09 once2526.41 you2526.66 stand2526.89 and2527.38 you2527.53 look2527.78 up2528.01 and2528.18 you2528.34 see2528.57 how2528.82 far2529.05 it's2529.38 going2529.61 out2529.86 into2530.09 the2530.41 sidewalk,2530.57 how2531.3 far2531.61 it's2531.86 coming2532.09 out2532.34 into2532.66 the2532.89 sidewalk2533.05 on2533.53 Mount2534.41 Auburn2534.66 Street,2535.05 there's2535.86 no2536.18 way2536.41 that2536.66 you2536.89 can2536.97 have2537.93 that2538.18 many2538.34 families2538.66 in2539.05 there.2539.21 You2539.86 can't,2540.58 it2541.14 just2541.3 doesn't2541.54 make2541.86 sense2542.1 to2542.34 me2542.42 in2542.66 my2542.82 neighborhood.2542.98
2543.7 MORRIS2543.7 -2543.7 I2543.7 think2543.78 you2543.94 didn't2544.1 understand2544.5 the2545.14 description2545.38 of2545.86 the2545.94 sidewalk.2546.1 The2546.66 sidewalk,2546.9 as2547.38 it2547.62 goes2548.18 down2548.5 Summer2548.74 Street,2550.02 largely2550.5 gets2550.5 more2550.5 and2550.74 more2550.82 on2551.06 the2551.7 subject2551.86 property.2552.26 It's2552.66 not2552.9 taking,2553.14 it's2553.46 not2553.7 on2555.23 public2555.47 land.2555.71
2556.03 M2556.03 SULLIVAN2556.03 -2556.03 You2556.03 have2556.19 to2556.36 walk2557.95 the2558.19 property2558.36 to2558.76 see2558.91 it.2559.07 I2559.47 guess,2559.64 you2560.11 know,2560.28 if2560.43 you2560.59 have2560.67 time2560.91 after2561.23 the2561.47 meeting,2561.64 go2562.03 over2562.19 and2562.36 look2562.59 at2562.76 this2562.91 property.2563.15 Walk2563.64 it.2563.8 If2564.03 you2564.19 haven't2564.28 been2564.59 there2564.84 and2565.07 you've2565.15 only2565.47 been2565.71 to2565.88 meetings2566.03 and2566.51 you're2566.67 seeing2566.91 this,2567.15 you2567.95 need2568.11 to2568.28 get2568.67 over2568.84 there.2569.07 No.2570.61 I've2570.85 been2571.09 there2571.25 a2571.37 lot.2571.49 Yeah.2572.69 Every2572.93 single2573.17 morning.2573.57
2573.97 MORRIS2573.97 -2573.97 I'm2573.97 not2574.05 trying2574.21 to2574.45 match2574.53 credentials2574.69 with2575.25 you.2575.41
2575.81 M2575.81 SULLIVAN2575.81 -2575.81 No.2575.81 No.2575.97 And2576.69 you2576.93 won't2577.09 because2578.13 I2578.77 see2579.01 it2579.17 every2579.33 day.2579.57 I2579.97 see2580.13 it2580.37 every2580.61 day,2580.85 and2581.09 I2581.33 have2582.02 gone2582.26 to2582.41 so2582.66 many2582.89 of2583.14 these2583.3 meetings,2583.61 and2584.09 it's2584.74 just2584.97 like,2585.22 you2585.7 know,2585.86 throwing2586.26 up,2587.45 you2587.61 know,2587.61 we2587.78 need2588.02 more2588.26 housing.2588.49 You2588.97 know2589.06 what?2589.22 It2590.09 needs2590.49 to2590.82 go2590.89 elsewhere.2591.06 This2591.7 is2591.93 huge,2592.66 and2593.22 it's2593.45 big,2593.78 and2594.26 it2594.41 takes2594.66 away2594.97 from2595.38 the2596.72 home2597.36 that's2597.68 next2598 to2598.24 it2598.4 and2598.56 it2598.8 takes2598.96 away2599.2 from2599.52 the2599.76 neighborhood.2599.92 It2601.12 really2601.36 does,2601.68 and2601.92 it's2602.08 very2602.4 disappointing.2602.8
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2613.57 RITA2613.57 COLAFELLA2613.57 -2613.57 RESIDENT2615.32 -2615.32 Rita2615.41 Colafella.2615.64 I2615.64 live2615.8 on2616.05 562616.2 Cuba2616.84 Street,2617.24 which2617.57 is2617.89 close2618.05 to2618.36 this2618.61 square.2618.84 And2619.89 the2620.13 square,2620.36 while2621.09 it's2621.32 a2621.48 neighborhood,2621.64 is2622.2 very2622.61 valuable2623.16 property.2624.14 We2625.18 have2625.34 the2625.58 bus2625.82 going2626.14 along2626.46 this.2626.86 I2627.58 mean,2627.66 nine2627.98 units2628.14 is2628.62 fabulous,2628.86 I2629.34 wish2629.5 it2629.82 was2629.98 more.2630.22 We2630.46 have2630.7 a2631.26 housing2631.26 crisis.2631.74 People2632.7 are2633.1 moving2633.5 out2634.14 of2634.38 Watertown2634.54 because2635.34 they2635.66 can't2635.9 afford2636.3 to2636.86 live2637.02 here.2637.34 3,5002638.06 is2639.02 the2639.26 average2639.41 rent.2640.14 More2640.93 units2641.18 will2641.66 bring2641.82 those2642.06 prices2642.3 down.2642.78 If2643.34 we're2643.58 gonna2643.66 preserve2643.97 the2644.54 historical2644.78 character,2645.49 we're2647.02 gonna2647.18 gut2647.66 the2647.97 youth,2648.14 and2648.78 the2648.93 workers,2649.1 and2649.66 the2649.82 future2649.97 of2650.93 Watertown.2651.17 So,2652.13 I2653.09 just2653.25 wanted2653.49 to2653.73 chime2653.97 in2654.29 and2655.01 say2655.25 that2655.49 I2655.73 like2655.97 this.2656.21 I2657.73 mean,2657.89 I2658.21 wish2658.37 it2658.53 was2658.61 bigger.2658.85 I2659.09 wish2659.17 it2659.41 was2659.57 five2659.73 stories.2660.05 But2660.37 if2660.61 the2660.77 historical2660.93 commission2661.49 said,2662.29 you2662.86 know,2663.03 no.2663.26 You2663.51 can't2663.66 do2663.91 five,2664.3 then2664.7 okay.2665.34
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2675.73 ELODIA2675.73 THOMAS2675.73 -2675.73 RESIDENT2675.73 -2675.73 So,2675.73 what2677.65 I2677.97 wanna2678.05 do2678.45 first2678.69 is2679.49 just2679.73 second,2679.97 what2680.77 Jane2681.09 Holden2681.41 was2681.73 saying2681.97 about,2682.53 the2683.73 value,2683.97 about2684.85 how2685.17 sad2685.81 it2686.05 will2686.21 be2686.37 to2686.69 lose2686.85 what2687.33 is2687.49 an2687.73 absolutely2688.18 gorgeous2688.59 specimen2689.07 blue2689.55 spruce2689.95 right2690.43 there.2690.59 It's2690.82 just2691.07 amazing,2691.3 amazingly2692.18 beautiful2692.66 tree.2693.07 I2693.3 understand2693.47 that2693.95 with2694.66 your2694.91 design,2695.14 there's2695.39 no2695.63 way2695.78 to2695.95 keep2696.11 it,2696.26 but2696.43 it's2696.98 tragic2697.39 that2697.86 that2698.03 tree2698.26 would2698.51 have2698.74 to2698.91 go.2698.98 And2700.34 I2701.07 also,2701.22 on2702.82 the2703.06 same2703.22 theme,2703.46 want2703.86 to2703.98 say,2704.1 as2704.9 we2705.14 develop2705.3 the2706.1 square,2706.34 we2707.78 need2708.02 to2708.26 think2708.34 about2708.5 the2708.82 fact2708.9 that2709.22 we're2709.54 building2709.86 not2710.34 just2710.58 more2710.9 housing,2711.14 which2711.54 is2711.78 terrific2712.1 and2712.66 something2712.9 we2713.3 need2713.46 to2713.7 do,2713.86 but2714.02 we're2714.26 also2714.42 building,2715.84 we2716.48 need2716.64 to2716.89 be2716.96 at2717.13 the2717.28 same2717.44 time2717.68 very2718.96 consciously2719.28 building2720.09 an2720.48 ecological2720.72 environment2721.53 that's2722.09 gonna2722.32 make2722.64 sense,2723.05 and2723.44 support2723.76 the2724.24 people,2724.32 and2724.64 support2724.96 the2725.92 urban2727.13 ecosphere.2727.53 So,2729.35 I2729.51 absolutely2729.91 endorse2730.47 what,2730.79 Jane2731.51 is2731.83 saying2731.99 about2732.23 figuring2732.79 out2733.19 a2733.35 way2733.43 with2733.99 some2734.63 kind2734.95 of2735.11 public2735.35 private2735.91 arrangement2736.79 along2738.15 Summer2738.55 Street2738.79 or2739.11 whatever2739.19 to2739.75 add2740.71 trees2740.95 that2741.35 can2741.59 have2741.75 long,2742.59 healthy2742.91 lifetimes.2743.3
2743.95 Not2743.95 things2744.11 that2744.34 are2744.51 just2744.66 kinda2744.98 going2745.3 in2745.55 and2745.7 won't2745.86 survive2746.26 because2746.66 it's2746.98 such2747.14 a2747.39 tough2747.47 site,2747.78 but2748.18 prepare2748.91 the2749.3 property2749.47 so2750.91 that2751.14 there's2751.3 plenty2751.63 of2752.03 soil2752.51 volume2752.91 and2753.22 so2753.39 the2753.55 trees2753.7 can2754.03 do2754.18 really2754.34 well.2754.59 The2756.33 stark2756.49 austerity,2756.97 and2758.01 I2758.17 agree2758.41 with2758.89 Jason2759.85 Cohen,2760.17 it2761.29 looks2761.93 pretty2762.25 brutal2762.57 sitting2764.57 beside2764.89 that2765.29 very2765.53 graceful2765.85 older2766.73 house.2767.05 But2768.64 if2768.95 you2769.2 add2769.43 trees2769.68 and2769.99 if2770.24 you2770.39 add2770.47 them2770.64 in2770.8 such2770.95 a2771.11 way2771.28 that2771.43 they2771.68 can2771.76 have2771.99 long2772.32 healthy2772.64 lifetimes,2772.95 and2773.6 provide2773.76 a2774.88 really2775.11 lovely2775.43 canopy,2775.84 the2776.24 canopy2776.39 will2776.8 serve2776.95 not2777.28 only2777.52 everyone2778.24 passing2778.72 by,2779.11 but2779.43 will2779.6 also2779.84 add2781.21 grace2781.53 to2781.93 the2782.09 property.2782.25 So2782.97 I2783.21 really2783.45 encourage2783.85 you2784.33 to2784.57 invest2784.73 in,2785.69 work2787.77 with2788.01 the2788.17 town2788.25 to2788.57 invest2788.81 in2789.45 a2790.57 strong2791.05 environment2791.85 for2792.57 long2793.29 lived2793.61 trees2794.51 along2794.91 the2795.23 streets2795.39 that2795.8 this2795.95 building2796.76 is2797.07 sitting2797.23 in2797.47 front2797.64 of.2797.95
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2801.23 GORDON2801.23 -2801.23 I2801.23 just2801.39 wanted2801.55 to2801.8 make2801.95 one2802.11 brief2802.43 additional2802.67 comment2803.15 since2803.47 height2803.8 was2804.11 brought2804.28 up2804.51 several2805.07 times.2805.47 Yes.2805.95 Since2806.19 height2806.51 was2806.76 brought2806.91 up2807.07 several2807.23 times,2807.55 I2807.8 wanted2807.95 to2808.19 make2808.28 one2808.43 additional2808.67 comment,2809.15 which2809.82 is2809.98 to2810.14 note2810.22 that2810.46 this2810.7 building,2810.94 if2811.82 you're2812.06 facing2812.3 it,2813.02 to2813.18 the2813.34 right2813.5 of2813.74 it2813.82 is2814.46 what2814.7 will2814.86 soon2815.1 be2815.34 the2815.5 former2815.58 Belmont2815.98 Watertown2816.46 United2816.94 Methodist2817.26 Church,2817.66 which2817.98 is2818.22 quite2818.38 tall.2818.78 So,2819.58 I2819.98 don't2820.14 see2820.46 this2820.94 as2821.26 looming2821.5 over2822.06 the2822.3 street.2822.46 Actually,2822.86 it2823.34 kind2823.58 of2823.74 gradually2823.98 now2824.99 steps2825.23 down2825.63 till2826.03 you2826.28 get2826.43 to2826.59 that2826.76 one2826.99 story2827.23 commercial2827.71 area.2828.11 So2828.99 I2829.39 wanted2829.8 to2829.95 just2830.11 say2830.36 I2830.47 am2830.59 in2830.91 support2831.15 of2831.47 the2831.63 three2831.8 story2832.03 height.2832.43
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2836.19 LISA2836.19 FELTNER2836.19 -2836.19 CITY2836.19 COUNCIL2836.19 MEMBER2836.19 -2836.19 Good2836.19 evening.2836.36 It's2836.67 Lisa2836.99 Feltner.2837.32 I'm2837.8 the2837.95 district2838.11 councilor2838.81 for2839.37 the2839.53 historic2840.25 district.2840.65 Yes.2841.05 Nice2841.77 to2842.01 meet2842.09 you.2842.33 I2843.61 could2843.77 say2843.93 that2844.17 the2844.41 neighbors2844.65 are2845.05 very2845.53 disappointed.2845.85 The2846.89 majority2847.05 of2847.45 people2847.61 I've2847.85 heard2848.09 for2848.33 this.2850.01 The2850.25 new2850.25 addition2850.49 you're2850.89 putting2851.13 on2851.45 there,2851.61 there's2851.93 nothing2852.33 historic2852.73 looking2853.29 about2853.61 it2853.77 except2854.01 maybe2854.78 the2855.03 gray2855.51 color2856.07 that2856.39 you're2856.63 proposing.2856.94 What2859.11 style2859.42 would2859.74 you2860.07 call2860.22 it?2860.39 What2861.59 is2861.82 your2861.98 architectural2862.22 style2862.86 here?2863.18
2870.41 BER2870.41 -2870.41 I2870.41 personally2870.41 don't2870.73 like2871.05 to2871.37 discuss2871.69 things2872.01 in2872.25 terms2872.49 of2872.89 their2873.13 style.2873.37 I2873.77 don't2873.93 think2874.17 that,2874.49
2877.37 FELTNER2877.37 -2877.37 Well,2877.37 you're2877.53 an2877.77 architect.2878.01 So2878.49 what2878.65 is2878.81 your2878.89 architectural2879.13 style?2879.93
2881.45 BER2881.45 -2881.45 No2881.45 matter2881.61 what2881.93 we2882.17 do2882.33 here2882.57 and2883.93 no2884.25 matter2884.41 how2884.73 we2884.97 dress2885.13 this2885.45 up,2885.69 we2886.23 are2886.55 building2886.71 a2887.2 21st2887.68 century2887.91 structure2888.55 here,2889.59 for2889.99 people2889.99 who2889.99 live2890.16 in2890.39 the2890.55 21st2895.68 century.2895.91 And2895.91 the2895.91 standard2896.16 of2896.47 living2896.71 today2897.28 is2897.68 very2897.84 different2898.07 from2898.39 Victorian2899.91 period.2900.89 And,2901.21 we2901.85 all2902.09 know2902.33 that,2902.57 we2902.89 know2903.37 that2903.61 kitchens2904.57 are2904.97 different,2905.21 bathrooms2905.61 are2906.17 different.2906.33 So,2907.45 we2908.25 didn't2908.49 really2908.89 think2909.21 in2909.53 terms2909.69 of2909.93 style.2910.17 We2911.29 wanted2911.85 to2912.33 make2912.73 some2913.05 expression2913.37 in2913.93 terms2914.09 of2914.33 the2914.49 materials.2914.65 We2915.37 are2915.53 using2915.85 similar2917.07 materials,2917.8 the2918.59 wood,2918.84 siding.2920.28 We2921.47 are,2921.72 trying2922.91 to2923.24 be2923.39 very2923.64 quiet2923.95 in2924.36 terms2924.52 of2924.84 the2924.91 expression2925.47 of2925.95 the2927.95 trim2928.11 and2928.43 the2928.59 ornamentation2928.84 on2929.55 it.2929.72 In2930.58 one2930.74 of2930.98 the2931.06 meetings2931.14 with2931.46 the2931.7 historic2931.78 district2932.1 commission,2932.5 we2934.02 actually2934.18 toned2934.66 down2934.98 some2935.22 of2935.46 the2936.34 cornice2938.26 ornamentation2938.26 that2938.9 we2939.14 had.2939.3 It2940.02 was2940.18 a2940.42 little2940.5 more2940.82 pronounced.2941.14 It's2941.86 toned2942.42 down2942.74 here.2943.06 We2943.71 really2943.95 want2944.43 to2944.76 be2944.84 as2945.07 quiet2945.23 as2945.64 possible2945.88 to2946.36 let2946.59 the2947.39 historic2947.64 house2948.19 keep2949.47 singing.2949.8
2950.76 FELTNER2950.76 -2950.76 Okay.2950.76 So2951.07 I2951.32 appreciate2951.55 the2952.03 quietness.2952.19 However,2952.76 this2953.23 doesn't2953.47 shine.2954.11 This2954.59 doesn't2954.84 let2955.32 the2955.64 historic2955.8 house2956.36 keep2956.68 singing.2956.99 I'm2959.01 wondering,2959.25 are2959.57 you2959.81 planning2960.05 on2960.37 moving2961.01 the2961.41 large2961.57 transformer2962.13 box,2963.01 the2963.49 utilities2963.73 that2964.53 aren't2964.85 shown2965.25 here2965.49 that2965.73 exist2966.05 in2967.17 the2967.17 front?2967.17
2967.17 BER2967.17 -2967.17 You're2967.65 the2967.89 city.2968.69 It's2969.01 yours.2969.49
2970.8 FELTNER2970.8 -2970.8 So2970.8 that2972.47 is2973.03 planning2973.36 to2973.68 stay2973.84 there2974.16 on2974.64 Mount2974.8 Auburn2975.11 Street,2975.43 the2975.84 corner2975.99 that's2976.32 not2976.55 shown2976.8 in2977.11 the2977.28 picture?2977.51
2978.8 SCHREIBER2978.8 -2978.8 I'll2978.8 speak2979.03 to2979.19 the2979.36 transformer.2979.51 I've2980.07 talked2980.8 to2981.03 them2981.11 briefly2981.36 about2981.76 if2982.23 they2982.32 would2982.55 be2982.71 willing2982.88 to2983.19 consider2983.36 an2984.06 easement2984.14 on2984.54 the2984.7 property,2984.86 if2985.34 it2985.5 can2985.66 be2985.82 moved,2985.9 because2986.22 there's2986.46 lots2987.1 of2987.34 wires2987.5 and2987.9 pipes2988.38 going2988.78 into2989.1 and2989.42 out2989.5 of2989.74 those2989.82 boxes,2990.06 so2991.26 that2991.42 it2991.58 could2991.66 be2991.82 tucked2991.98 around2992.22 the2993.26 corner2993.42 and2993.74 then2993.9 there2994.14 might2994.3 be2994.54 an2994.62 opportunity2994.78 for2995.18 a2995.42 landscape2995.67 off2996.24 in2996.47 the2996.56 corner.2996.72 But2997.43 it2997.6 will2997.84 only2997.84 be2998.08 if2998.32 we,2998.47 as2998.8 a2999.12 city,2999.28 can2999.68 make3000.08 a3000.47 determination3000.47 and3001.76 that3001.91 they3002.08 agree3002.24 with3002.64 an3002.88 easement.3003.04 But3003.52 we3003.84 have3004.08 to3004.08
3004.08 FELTNER3004.08 -3004.08 Yes.3004.08 Easements3004.39 are3004.88 complicated.3005.12 I3005.68 understand3005.76 that.3006.16 So3006.95 there's3007.12 not3007.36 really3007.6 a3007.91 style,3008.16 and3008.47 that's3008.64 really3008.95 the3009.36 main3009.43 problem3009.91 because3010.84 you're3011.16 in3011.4 the3011.64 historic3011.88 district.3012.52 And3013.08 there3013.24 are3013.48 plenty3013.56 of3013.88 ways3014.04 to,3014.76 as3015.24 you3015.4 know,3015.56 as3015.8 an3016.04 architect,3016.2 to3017.24 knit3017.48 new3018.12 buildings3018.6 into3019.64 historic3020.04 buildings.3020.52 It3021.4 does3021.56 loom,3021.88 it3022.2 does3022.36 loom3022.6 larger,3022.92 you3025.11 know,3025.34 even3025.43 though3025.66 you're3025.91 on3026.07 the3026.22 this,3026.47 it3026.79 doesn't3026.86 take3027.18 advantage3027.43 of3027.91 the3028.07 grade3028.63 to3028.95 step3029.18 down.3029.43 And,3029.74 you3031.43 know,3031.59 what3031.74 you're3031.99 showing3032.22 there3032.55 really3032.79 is3033.03 Mount3033.18 Auburn3033.43 Street.3033.82 So,3034.31 it3034.7 looks3034.86 like3035.11 there's3035.51 a3035.91 really3036.63 far3037.03 a3037.43 sidewalk3037.59 in3038.14 front3038.31 of3038.55 there3038.63 that's3038.86 set3039.11 back.3039.43 I3039.66 don't3040.33 believe3040.57 your3041.05 plan3041.45 is3041.45 to3041.45 move3041.69 the3042.01 house3042.17 so3042.49 that3042.73 the3042.81 that's3043.77 a3044.09 road3044.25 there3044.65 where3044.89 all3045.13 the3045.29 the3045.69 blue3045.85 flowers3046.33 are3047.53 in3047.77 front3047.93 there.3048.25 So3049.05 perspective3049.29 isn't3049.85 really,3050.25 you're3051.21 not3051.45 showing3051.69
3052.57 M3052.97 SULLIVAN3052.97 -3052.97 And3052.97 where3053.2 the3053.45 flowers3053.61 are,3054.01 that's3054.16 a3054.41 side3054.57 walk.3055.13
3055.13 FELTNER3055.13 -3055.13 That3055.13 whole3055.36 gray3055.53 area3055.85 in3056.57 front3056.72 is3057.77 Mount3058.01 Auburn3058.16 Street.3058.49
3058.81 BER3058.81 -3058.81 This3058.81 gray3058.97 area3058.97 in3059.2 front3059.29 is3059.61 actually3059.93 a,3060.49 it's3060.97 a3061.2 walkway.3061.36 It's3061.77 on3062.09 the3062.24 property,3062.41 and3063.13 it3063.61 allows3063.68 entrance3064.49
3066.24 FELTNER3066.24 -3066.24 No.3066.24 I3066.48 I'm3066.64 familiar3066.8 with,3067.2 obviously,3067.52 I'm3067.92 familiar3068.08 with3068.48 the3068.64 area,3068.72 but3069.04 I'm3069.2 talking3069.28 about3069.6 your3069.84 perspective,3070.16 the3070.72 way3070.88 it3071.12 looks.3071.28 It3071.6 looks3071.76 like,3072.64 and3072.96 the3073.12 other3073.28 thing3073.44 is,3073.68 you3074.08 know,3074.24 you're3074.32 not3074.64 showing3074.96 it3075.52 in3075.68 context,3075.92 which3076.48 speaks3076.96 a3077.28 lot.3077.36 Because3077.6 if3077.92 you3078.08 showed3078.71 in3079.03 context3079.19 with3079.84 the3080.07 church,3080.23 and3080.64 the3080.88 historic3081.03 district,3081.51 and3081.99 the3082.07 other3082.23 buildings3082.55 that3083.11 are3083.76 in3083.99 the3084.16 historic3084.32 district,3084.8 because3085.19 this3085.43 is3085.59 the3085.76 beginning3085.84 of3086.23 the3086.32 historic3086.47 district,3086.95 it3087.84 would3087.91 announce,3089.11 right?3089.59 You3089.59 would3089.91 convey3090.23 that3091.39 you're3091.63 in3091.71 the3092.35 historic3092.51 district.3093.79 And3094.83 not,3094.83 we3094.83 filled3095.07 in3095.39 all3095.63 the3095.87 asphalt3096.03 that3096.59 we3096.83 could3097.07 with3097.87 block3098.67 building.3099.31 It3100.59 it's3101.07 not,3101.39 I3101.79 mean,3101.95 you3102.11 mentioned3102.27 yourself,3102.67 you3103.15 live3103.31 in3103.55 a3103.79 pre3104.39 19003104.95 building,3105.99 so3106.39 you3106.63 appreciate3106.78 Victorian3107.82 buildings.3108.3
3108.78 BER3108.78 -3108.78 That3109.27 was3109.51 Terry.3109.51
3109.51 MORRIS3109.51 -3109.51 That3109.51 was3109.51 me.3109.51
3109.91 FELTNER3109.91 -3109.91 Okay.3109.91 Most3111.51 of3111.74 the3111.91 buildings,3112.3 you3112.86 know,3113.03 we're3113.27 talking3113.51 1870s,3115.99 and3116.3 the3116.55 origins3116.95 of3118.47 Watertown3118.7 and3119.97 Mount3120.13 Auburn3120.45 Street.3120.77 This3122.29 just3122.53 doesn't3122.77 reflect3123.17 it.3123.57 I3124.29 do3124.45 not3124.61 understand3124.85 this.3125.25 I3125.49 mean,3125.57 frankly,3125.73 you3126.21 just3126.37 tear3126.69 the3127.01 whole3127.09 thing3127.25 down3127.57 even3128.53 though3128.77 this3129.09 house3129.49 won3130.05 a3130.29 preservation3130.45 award,3131.49 which3132.05 people3132.29 seem3132.61 to3132.93 be3133.09 forgetting3133.33 about.3133.81 So3134.13 we3134.29 sung3134.96 its3135.2 praises3135.28 and3135.76 what3135.93 a3136.09 great3136.24 property3136.57 it3136.96 was,3137.05 and3137.36 how3137.44 they3137.61 preserved3138.24 it.3138.72 This3140.32 does3140.96 not3141.2 add3141.53 anything3141.84 to3142.64 the3142.8 historic3142.96 district3143.44 other3144.01 than3144.24 units.3144.8 And3146.8 so3148.01 I3148.24 just,3148.41 reflecting3149.97 to3150.29 you3150.61 as3150.93 a3151.09 councilor,3151.73 and3152.29 someone3152.45 who3152.77 lives3152.93 in3153.17 the3153.33 neighborhood,3153.49 and3154.45 others3154.69 who3155.09 are3156.61 just3157.25 clamoring3157.97 to3158.77 to3159.33 uplift3159.41 our3160.21 historic3160.45 district,3160.93 and3161.33 this3161.41 was3161.65 one3161.73 of3161.97 my3162.05 concerns3162.21 when3162.61 we're3162.85 going3163.01 through3163.25 this3163.41 whole3163.57 zoning3163.81 process,3164.89 is3165.61 the3165.86 edges3166.18 of3166.89 the3167.22 square,3167.45 and3168.34 getting3168.49 into3168.74 the3168.97 neighbors3169.14 in3169.54 the3169.7 historic3169.86 district.3170.41 And,3171.3 you3171.61 know,3171.78 frankly,3171.93 I3172.41 think3172.57 part3173.05 of3173.3 the,3174.02 I3174.18 see3174.34 faults3174.57 with3174.97 our3175.14 zoning.3175.38 It's3176.02 not3176.26 all3176.94 on3177.1 you.3177.18 I3177.58 think3177.74 there3178.3 are3178.54 things3178.7 that3179.02 we3179.18 need3179.34 to3179.5 revise3179.66 that3180.7 we're3180.94 learning3181.1 as3181.5 projects3181.74 are3182.14 coming3182.3 forward3182.7 and3183.02 what's3183.18 being3184.06 built.3184.38 But3185.74 they3186.78 have3186.94 nothing3187.18 in3187.5 common3187.66 other3188.22 than3188.46 maybe3188.7 some3189.66 gray.3190.22 And3191.53 it3191.77 really3192.41 does3192.72 not3192.97 enhance3193.29 the3194.24 historic3194.41 district.3194.81 Nobody3195.61 would3195.93 look3196.16 at3196.32 that3196.41 and3196.64 say,3196.72 beautiful3197.61 architecture.3198.16 I3199.05 hope3199.29 we3199.53 preserve3199.68 that3200.16 for3200.41 another3200.57 503200.97 years3201.36 or3202.09 another3202.32 1003202.72 years.3203.13
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3206.69 M3206.69 SULLIVAN3206.69 -3206.69 It3206.69 looks3206.93 like3207.17 a3207.33 quick3207.49 fix.3207.81
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3212.37 MORRIS3212.37 -3212.37 I3212.37 don't3212.53 know3212.77 how3212.93 you3213.17 can3213.25 say,3213.41 I3213.65 can3213.73 understand3213.97 you3214.37 have3214.45 a3214.61 subjective3214.69 opinion3215.17 about3215.57 how3215.81 it3216.05 doesn't3216.13 augment3216.53 the3217.09 historic3217.17 district.3217.65 But3218.9 that3219.07 really3219.38 flies3219.7 in3220.03 the3220.18 face3220.26 of3220.42 the3220.51 fact3220.66 that3220.82 the3220.98 historic3221.14 commission3221.7 district3222.18 commission3222.59 voted3223.3 unanimously3223.63 to3224.34 approve3224.51 that3224.82 design,3225.7 so3225.94 there's3225.94 gotta3226.11 be3226.42 a3226.59 disconnect3226.74 somewhere3227.22 in3228.03 the3228.18 professional3228.51
3228.66 FELTNER3228.66 -3228.66 There3228.66 is3228.66 a3228.9 disconnect.3229.07 Not3229.55 all3229.78 the3229.86 members3230.03 attended3230.42 all3230.82 the3230.98 meetings.3231.14 I'm3231.55 well3231.7 aware3231.94 of3232.26 what3232.51 happened3232.66 there.3233.07 And,3234.33 frankly,3234.65 I3235.53 know3235.69 some3235.85 of3236.01 the3236.09 members3236.17 are3236.57 here,3236.73 but3237.45 I3237.61 am3237.69 very3238.01 disappointed.3238.41 And3238.97 I3239.13 can3239.21 tell3239.37 you3239.61 there3239.85 are3240.01 a3240.05 lot3240.09 of3240.25 residents3240.41 that3240.81 aren't3240.97 here3241.21 tonight3241.53 that3242.33 are3242.49 really3242.65 upset3242.97 with3243.77 this3244.01 plan.3244.25
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3248.24 EAMON3248.24 DAWES3248.24 -3248.24 RESIDENT3248.24 -3248.24 Eamon3248.24 Dawes.3248.57 I3249.05 live3249.13 at3249.13 113249.36 Irving3249.76 Street.3250.16 I3256.64 think3256.8 when3257.13 you3257.53 look3257.76 down3258.01 Mount3258.32 Auburn3258.57 Street,3258.89 coming3260.02 from3260.1 Watertown3260.34 Square,3260.74 opposite3262.34 to3262.98 this3263.14 is3263.46 gonna3263.62 be3263.94 a3264.02 big3264.1 sign.3264.42 I3265.22 don't3265.38 know3265.54 quite3265.7 how3265.94 large3266.02 it3266.26 is,3266.42 but3266.58 it3266.82 says3266.9 Dunkin'3267.14 Donuts3267.46 in3267.86 big3268.02 letters.3268.26 That's3269.14 not3269.38 historic,3270.42 right?3270.82 The3270.82 parking3270.98 lot3271.38 that's3271.62 there3271.94 isn't3272.42 historic.3272.82 So3274.59 to3274.83 say3274.99 that3275.14 we're3275.31 losing3275.63 some3276.03 character3276.59 or3277.31 we're3278.11 getting3278.91 rid3279.22 of3279.39 something,3279.55 we're3279.86 portraying3280.34 the3280.74 neighborhood3280.91 by3281.31 getting3281.95 rid3282.27 of3282.43 a3282.51 parking3282.59 lot3282.83 and3282.99 putting3283.14 up3283.39 housing,3283.55 that3284.59 seems3284.83 a3284.99 little3285.14 ridiculous.3285.39
3285.79 FELTNER3285.79 -3285.79 That's3285.79 not3285.95 in3286.11 the3286.27 Historic3286.43 District,3286.91 sir.3287.39
3288.59 DAWES3288.59 -3288.59 It's3288.59 when3288.75 you're3289.39 looking3289.55 right3290.19 down.3290.59
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
FELTNER3295.31 -3295.31 I'm3295.31 sorry.3295.31 I'm3295.55 just3295.71 upset.3295.87 You3296.19 haven't3296.35 defined3296.67 the3297.07 Historic3297.23 District.3297.63 You3298.03 haven't3298.19 shown3298.75 any3299.07 inspiration3299.39 of3300.19 actual3300.59 other3301.47 things3302.69 that3302.93 would3303.01 inform3303.26 this3304.14 plan.3304.45 And3305.34 people3305.57 don't3305.57 understand3305.89 where,3307.26 we3307.41 have3307.57 a3307.73 very3307.82 small3308.14 historic3308.45 district.3308.86 People3309.34 do3309.66 not3309.82 understand3310.05 where3310.45 it3310.69 starts3310.78 and3311.01 ends.3311.17
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3325.81 DAWES3325.81 -3325.81 When3325.81 you3325.81 walk3325.81 around3326.05 this3326.29 corner,3326.53 you3327.73 can3328.21 look3328.45 at3328.77 the3329.09 existing3329.25 house3329.73 and,3330.29 you3330.85 know,3331.01 you3331.25 have3331.41 questions3331.57 like,3332.05 it3332.41 looks3332.57 like3332.68 a3332.8 house3333.05 but3333.36 it3333.61 seems3333.76 like3334.01 it's3334.16 commercial,3334.96 there3335.13 are3335.13 some3335.2 signs3335.45 in3335.68 front,3336.09 there's3336.24 this3336.24 big3336.41 parking3336.57 lot.3336.89 It3337.28 doesn't3337.45 look3337.68 like3337.93 a3338.09 place3338.16 where3338.41 people3338.57 live.3338.8 And3339.68 I3339.84 appreciate3340.01 how3340.48 this3340.64 design3340.89 looks3341.45 like3341.76 a3341.93 place3342.01 that3342.24 people3342.41 live.3342.64 I3344.68 appreciate3344.92 the3346.28 historic3346.36 elements3346.68 in3347.56 my3347.72 neighborhood.3347.88 I3348.52 like3348.68 seeing3348.92 the3349.16 horse3349.32 hitch3349.64 that's3350.04 been3350.28 on3350.68 the3350.92 curb3351.08 for3351.48 a3351.8 few3351.96 hundred3352.12 years.3352.36 I3352.68 like3352.84 seeing3353.16 the3353.48 slate3353.64 roofs3353.96 as3354.36 I3354.52 walk3354.68 the3354.84 dog.3355.08 I3356.2 think3356.36 you3356.6 have3356.76 people3356.92 appreciating3357.32 the3358.52 historic3358.68 district3359.08 when3359.53 they3359.69 can3359.78 live3360.01 there,3360.17 and3360.73 I3360.89 think3361.05 this3361.21 allows3361.38 people3361.69 to3361.93 do3362.09 that.3362.17 As3364.49 far3364.73 as3365.05 I3366.17 know3366.26 we've3366.41 talked3366.57 about3366.73 trees3366.97 and3367.21 sidewalks.3367.45 I3368.17 think3368.41 a3368.66 123368.82 foot3368.97 sidewalk3369.14 is3369.61 great3369.69 on3370.41 Mount3370.89 Auburn3371.3 Street.3371.3 I3372.41 don't3372.57 really3373.05 understand3373.38 the3373.78 benefit3373.93 to3374.34 the3374.49 neighborhood3375.51 just3376.15 being3376.39 able3376.55 to3376.67 get3376.79 it3377.03 a3377.83 couple3377.99 dozen3378.31 feet3378.55 down3379.11 Summer3379.35 Street3379.67 and3379.99 then3380.15 just3380.31 have3380.55 it3380.79 stop.3380.95
3381.83 I3381.83 could3382.07 understand3382.23 if3382.63 there3382.79 were3382.95 larger3383.11 plans3383.43 in3383.67 the3383.83 city3383.91 to3384.23 be3384.31 able3384.47 to3384.63 extend3384.71 that,3385.03 you3386.07 know,3386.31 towards3387.03 some3387.43 of3387.59 the3387.75 parks3388.39 and,3388.87 you3390.14 know,3390.3 the3390.41 parks3390.53 and3390.69 lots3390.86 and3391.09 stuff3391.18 back3391.49 there.3391.66 But3391.89 I3392.38 think3392.86 that3393.09 space3393.49 would3393.89 much3394.22 better3395.01 be3395.34 served3395.41 by3395.82 trees3396.14 and,3396.78 especially3398.3 on3398.61 this3398.78 south3399.01 facing3399.34 wall3399.74 of3400.78 these3400.78 homes.3401.01 And3402.78 finally,3403.01 just3403.66 talking3404.8 about3405.04 aesthetics,3405.44 I3406 think3406.24 that3406.48 it's3407.12 being3408.88 able3409.12 to3409.36 reflect3410.16 the3410.8 windows3411.92 in3412.56 particular,3413.28 that's3413.44 the3413.44 one3413.52 thing3413.76 that3413.92 I3414.16 see3414.24 really3414.48 between3414.8 these3415.28 two3415.52 buildings.3415.68 In3418.11 the3418.36 old3418.59 18303419.16 home,3420.51 all3421.07 the3421.23 windows3421.32 are3421.64 the3421.8 same3421.88 style.3422.11 They3422.51 have3422.68 the3422.91 same3422.99 number3423.16 of3423.39 panes,3423.55 and3424.36 it's3424.51 pretty3424.84 regular3425.16 what3426.11 that3426.84 looks3426.99 like.3427.32 Looking3427.95 at3428.2 the3428.36 new3428.43 building,3428.59 even3428.99 just3429.23 at3429.39 this3429.55 photo3429.71 here,3430.03 those3431.21 two3431.37 windows,3431.61 they3432.01 seem3432.17 to3432.25 be3432.33 different3432.49 heights.3432.81 Not3434.09 only3434.49 different3434.73 widths,3434.97 but3435.21 different3435.45 heights.3435.77 They3436.01 have3436.25 sort3436.49 of3436.65 a3436.81 different3436.89 style3437.37 of3437.69 pain,3438.01 and3438.33 I3438.57 think3438.65 having3438.89 something3439.61 that3440.01 can3440.65 more3441.05 reflect3441.37 the3442.09 historic3443.79 property,3444.27 I3444.91 think,3444.99 would3445.22 help3445.47 tie3445.95 them3446.18 in3446.43 more.3446.74 Otherwise,3448.99 I3449.47 love3449.95 what3450.18 you're3450.34 doing.3450.51 I3450.82 love3451.14 that3451.79 I'll3452.27 be3452.43 able3452.59 to3452.74 have3452.82 more3452.99 neighbors.3453.22 Thank3454.03 you.3454.27
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3460.47 F3460.47 SULLIVAN3460.47 -3460.47 So,3460.71 I3460.95 don't3461.03 know,3461.27 how3461.35 long3461.43 have3462.31 you3462.39 lived3462.47 in3462.71 Watertown?3462.87
3463.27 DAWES3463.27 -3463.27 I've3463.27 lived3463.35 in3463.59 Watertown3463.67 for3464.07 163464.23 wonderful3464.63 days.3464.95
3465.67 F3465.67 SULLIVAN3465.67 -3465.67 Okay.3468.39 Welcome3468.55 to3468.95 Watertown.3471.03
3471.72 DAWES3471.72 -3471.72 I3471.72 know.3471.8 My3472.36 mom3472.53 was3472.77 born3472.93 here.3473.16 Okay.3473.49 And3473.64 it3473.8 wasn't3473.89 until,3474.13 you3474.77 know,3474.93 my3475.16 fiance3475.41 and3475.64 I3475.8 got3475.97 engaged3476.13 that3476.36 we3476.53 had3476.68 enough3476.84 money3477.09 to3477.49 move3477.57 here.3477.72
3478.2 F3478.2 SULLIVAN3478.2 -3478.2 Okay.3478.2 Well,3478.2 good3478.36 for3478.53 you.3478.61 I'm3478.77 happy3479.16 to3479.32 see3479.41 it.3479.49 Yeah.3479.72 one3480.84 of3481.01 the3481.16 things3481.41 that3482.13 I3482.53 can3482.68 share3482.93 just3483.24 having3483.41 lived3483.64 in3483.8 Watertown3483.97 for3484.36 a3484.53 long,3484.84 and3485.01 having3485.16 lived3485.41 in3485.64 a3485.72 historic3485.8 district,3487.34 is3487.5 it's3487.5 under3487.74 siege.3488.14 It's3489.26 been3489.5 under3489.82 siege3490.06 for3490.46 many,3490.62 many3490.86 years.3491.1 That3491.9 church3492.22 that3492.54 is3492.78 across3493.02 the3493.42 street3493.5 there,3495.5 they3495.82 would3495.98 love3496.22 to3496.46 tear3496.62 that3496.86 down.3497.1 It's3497.66 in3497.9 the3498.06 historic3498.14 district.3498.7
3499.1 DAWES3499.1 -3499.1 That's3499.34 not3499.5 true.3499.5
3499.82 F3499.82 SULLIVAN3499.82 -3499.82 It3502.26 is3502.42 true.3502.42 I3502.42 went3502.59 through3502.74 the3502.98 process.3503.07 The3503.55 only3503.7 reason3503.86 why3504.18 they3504.34 didn't3504.51 is3504.74 because3504.98 they3505.22 were3505.3 told3505.46 they3505.7 couldn't,3506.82 and3506.98 so3506.98 it's3507.55 under3507.78 siege.3508.11 And3508.42 so3508.59 the3509.55 protection3509.7 of3510.51 the3510.66 historic3510.82 district3511.38 is3512.26 because3512.42 it3512.74 is3512.9 small.3513.22 It's3514.17 because3514.33 there3516.09 was3516.33 a3516.57 time3516.65 in3516.89 Watertown's3517.05 history3517.69 where3518.17 it3518.41 did3518.57 not3518.81 have3519.13 the3521.37 perspective3521.45 where3521.93 people3522.17 were3522.49 looking3522.65 at3522.97 it3523.13 seriously.3523.37 And3524.09 so3524.33 it3524.49 fell3524.73 apart3525.05 and3525.29 many3525.45 houses,3525.69 became3526.41 many3526.81 multifamily3527.13 houses.3527.85 So3528.91 the3529.07 protection3529.24 of3529.64 historic3529.88 district3530.43 is3530.76 very3530.99 serious.3531.24 And3532.2 I3532.36 think3532.43 we3532.68 really3532.84 have3533.16 to3533.39 think3533.47 of3533.72 it3533.8 that3534.76 way.3534.76 And3534.76 I3535.47 also3535.56 think3535.8 we3535.95 have3536.11 to3536.28 think3536.36 of3536.59 it3536.68 that,3536.84 I3537.07 know3537.32 that3538.04 that's3538.28 what's3538.52 going3538.76 on3539.07 here,3539.24 is3539.47 that3539.64 you're3539.88 trying3540.11 to3540.36 put3540.52 as3541.09 many3541.33 building,3542.85 we've3543.09 been3543.25 doing3543.41 it3543.57 for,3544.09 they've3544.13 been3544.13 doing3544.29 it3544.49 forever.3544.69 That's3545.09 the3545.41 nature3545.65 of3546.37 buildings,3547.81 is3548.05 put3548.05 as3548.21 many3548.37 units3548.61 in3548.93 as3549.09 possible.3549.33 I3549.89 find3550.21 it3550.37 hard3550.61 to3550.77 believe3550.93 that3551.25 you3551.41 can't3551.49 make3551.73 it3551.97 financially3552.21 viable3552.85 with3553.49 a3553.73 smaller3553.81 footprint3554.21 and3554.69 and3555.65 a3555.81 gable3555.97 roof3556.29 that3556.77 would3556.99 much3557.14 more3557.3 lend3557.55 itself3557.78 to3558.11 the3558.51 property3558.59 building.3558.59 I3558.99 don't3559.07 know3559.22 how3559.39 much3559.47 you3559.63 bought3559.7 the3559.95 property3560.03 for.3560.43 I3561.14 find3561.3 it3561.47 difficult3561.63 to3562.03 believe3562.18 that3562.43 you3562.59 couldn't3562.66 put3562.99 six3563.22 units3563.39 in3563.7 today's3563.86 dollar3564.27 with3564.91 how3565.14 much3565.3 Watertown,3566.18 people3566.51 ask3566.91 to3567.14 live3567.3 in3567.47 Watertown,3567.63 how3568.03 much3568.18 the3568.34 woman3568.43 would3568.82 pay3568.99 that3569.3 you3569.55 couldn't3569.63 do3569.95 that.3570.18 And3570.55 I3570.79 totally3571.11 believe3571.59 in3571.91 multifamily3572.15 units.3572.79 I3573.43 totally3573.67 believe3574.07 in3574.39 bringing3574.63 people3574.95 and3575.51 bringing3575.75 the3576.07 cost3576.23 of3576.47 rent3576.71 down3576.95 so3577.19 people3577.43 can3577.67 afford3577.91 it.3578.31 But3578.79 we3579.03 also3579.27 have3579.67 to3579.91 say,3580.07 where3580.39 does3580.55 it3580.79 make3580.95 sense?3581.19 And3581.99 I3582.23 just3582.31 worry3582.55 that3582.87 this3583.03 is,3584.23 I3584.87 worry3585.03 about3585.35 it.3585.59 I3585.83 worry3585.99 about3586.84 it.3586.93 And3587.01 it's3587.32 just3587.57 comments.3587.97
3588.53 MORRIS3588.53 -3588.53 I3588.53 respect3588.68 your3589.09 point3589.24 of3589.49 view.3589.57
3590.05 F3590.05 SULLIVAN3590.05 -3590.05 I3590.2 respect3590.36 yours3590.68 as3590.93 well.3591.16
3591.41 MORRIS3591.41 -3591.41 Thank3591.41 you.3591.64 But3592.2 I3592.45 think3592.61 you3592.84 would3592.93 acknowledge3593.16 that,3595.89 to3596.13 say3596.36 that3596.53 someone3597.49 is3597.89 basically3598.13 trying3598.75 to3599.07 milk3599.15 the3599.55 whole3599.63 thing3599.87 for3600.11 as3600.27 much3600.43 money3600.59 as3600.83 they3600.99 can3601.07 get3601.23
3601.63 F3601.63 SULLIVAN3601.63 -3601.63 It's3601.63 not3601.63 milking.3601.87 It's3602.19 capitalism.3602.51 I3602.99 get3603.15 it.3603.39
3604.51 MORRIS3604.51 -3604.51 Okay.3604.51 Or3604.51 making3605.87 the,3606.19 come3606.35 to3606.59 the3606.75 conclusion3606.83 that3607.95 you3608.67 could3608.83 do3608.99 something3609.23 less3610.59 that3610.91 would3611.07 be3611.31 viable.3611.47 That's3612.61 an3612.86 entirely3613.09 subjective3613.57 conclusion.3614.53 Would3615.18 you3615.34 agree?3615.41
3617.09 F3617.09 SULLIVAN3617.09 -3617.09 I've3617.09 been3617.26 through3617.49 three3617.97 or3618.3 four3618.38 of3618.7 these3618.78 different3619.01 projects.3619.41 And3620.38 in3620.61 every3620.78 single3621.01 one3621.41 of3621.57 them,3621.74 a3622.22 case3622.38 could3622.7 have3623.18 been3623.34 made3623.49 that3623.82 you3623.97 you3624.3 built3624.45 something3624.7 with3625.01 a3625.18 smaller3625.34 footprint3625.66 and3626.05 it3626.22 would3626.3 have3626.45 been3626.61 very3626.78 viable.3626.93 And3627.65 yet3627.89 it's3628.05 not3628.29 the3628.77 nature3628.93 to3629.25 do3629.41 that3629.57 because3629.89 people3630.21 who3630.53 develop3630.77 property3631.25 have3632.21 a3632.37 different3632.45 thought3632.85 process.3633.09 I3633.57 get3633.73 it.3633.89 I3634.21 get3634.37 it.3634.61 I3634.77 understand.3635.01 But3635.89 we3636.13 live3636.29 here,3637.01 and3637.17 so3637.17 we3637.33 just3637.49 wanna3637.73 make3637.97 sure3638.13 that3638.37 what's3638.61 left3639.73 is3640.45 something3640.61 that3641.01 betters3641.25 the3641.57 neighborhood3641.73 and3642.57 doesn't3642.8 continue3643.28 to3643.68 shape3643.84 it3644.09 otherwise.3644.24
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3657.69 MARY3657.69 SANTORO3657.69 -3657.69 RESIDENT3657.69 -3657.69 My3657.69 name3657.85 is3658.01 Mary3658.25 Santoro.3658.57
3659.45 MORRIS3659.45 -3659.45 Mary3659.45 Santoro,3660.73 Mary,3660.89 where3660.89 do3660.89 you3661.05 live?3661.13
3662.17 SANTORO3662.17 -3662.17 I3662.17 live3662.33 in3662.57 Townsend3662.97 Massachusetts,3663.21 but3663.85 I'm3664.01 representing3664.25 residents3666.01 on3666.65 Summer3666.81 Street.3666.97
3666.97
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3671.78 SANTORO3671.78 -3671.78 Can3671.78 you3672.01 can3672.49 you3672.73 show3673.05 me3673.3 the3675.05 back3675.21 of3675.53 the3675.69 property3675.86 and3677.38 how3677.69 close3677.93 it3678.26 comes3678.49 to3678.66 the3679.93 property3680.09 that's3680.57 behind3680.89 us?3681.21
3694.03 BER3694.03 -3694.03 Want3694.03 to3694.19 see3694.43 it3694.59 in3694.75 plan,3694.91 or3695.23 do3695.47 you3695.63 want3695.71 to3695.87 see3696.03 it?3696.27
3699.43 SANTORO3699.43 -3699.43 You3699.43 know,3699.6 live3699.84 picture3700.16 of3700.47 it.3702.8
3703.11 F3703.11 SULLIVAN3703.11 -3703.11 It's3703.11 a3703.11 zero3705.2 tolerance3705.43 site3705.43 plan.3705.43
3707.11 BER3707.11 -3707.11 Now,3707.84 this3708.16 wall3708.16 of3708.8 the3709.04 new3709.2 developments3709.52 sits3710.08 right3710.32 on3710.47 the3710.64 property3710.8 line.3711.28
3712.74 SANTORO3712.74 -3712.74 Is3713.54 that3713.86 where3714.02 the3714.26 stone3714.9 wall3715.3 is?3715.62
3718.34 BER3718.34 -3718.34 Roughly.3718.34 It's3718.34 way3718.34 back3718.74 off3719.06 the3719.22 property.3719.38 It's3720.02 not3720.26 on3720.5 the3720.58 street.3720.74 It's3721.06 way3721.3 back3721.54
3721.86 SANTORO3721.86 -3721.86 I'm3721.86 not3722.02 talking3722.18 about3722.42 that3722.74 stone3722.98 wall.3723.3 I'm3723.54 talking3723.7 about3724.1 the3725.28 brick3725.59 wall3725.91
3727.03 M3727.03 SULLIVAN3727.03 -3727.03 The3727.03 stone3727.03 wall3727.28 on3727.51 Summer3727.68 Street3727.99 that3728.32 abuts3728.55 the3728.95 two3729.99 family,3730.16 Mary,3730.16 is3730.16 that3730.16 right?3730.39
3730.8 SANTORO3730.8 -3730.8 Yes.3730.8
3733.2 BER3733.2 -3733.2 So3733.2 here,3733.76 at3734.39 this3734.55 point,3734.8 the3735.51 structure3736.32 recedes3736.8 103737.43 feet3737.68 from3738.32 that3738.55 property3738.72 line.3739.4 So3739.4 this3739.56 is3739.8 103740.04 feet.3740.36 The3741.4 house3741.72 next3742.2 door3742.52 is3742.76 somewhere3743.88 in3744.2 this3744.36 area.3744.6
3746.28 SANTORO3746.28 -3746.28 Is3746.28 that3746.44 the3746.76 driveway,3748.52 right3748.84 there3748.84 where3749.08 those3749.32 two3749.64 sections3750.36 meet?3750.84 Right3751.41 where3751.66 your3751.73 finger3751.82 is3752.14 now,3752.3 is3752.53 that3752.61 the3753.18 driveway?3753.49
3753.49 BER3753.49 -3753.49 No.3753.49 This3753.57 is3753.57 not3753.57 the3753.57 driveway.3753.66 The3753.97 driveway3754.14 comes3754.53 underneath3754.93 the3755.34 building.3755.49
3757.66 F3757.97 SULLIVAN3757.97 -3757.97 The3757.97 abutting3757.97 property3757.97 driveway.3758.38
3758.78 BER3758.78 -3758.78 Yeah.3758.78 Part3758.93 of3759.18 abutting3759.66 property3760.14 is3760.61 driveway3760.78 somewhere3761.34 right3761.82 here3762.14 on3762.38 that3762.53 side3762.7 of3762.93 the3763.09 line.3763.26 And3765.34 there3765.66 is3765.82 a3766.06 kind3766.54 of3766.7 low3766.94 stone3767.58 wall3767.9 there.3768.22 There3769.74 are,3770.22 the3770.7 property3770.86 is,3771.18 low.3772.14
3774.62 SANTORO3774.62 -3774.62 Are3774.62 there3774.86 gonna3775.02 be3775.34 gutters3775.5 on3775.98 this3776.22 property,3777.88 the3778.11 drainage3778.11 from3779.07 the3779.32 roof?3779.47
3780.43 BER3780.43 -3780.43 We'll3780.43 have3780.68 to3780.84 deal3780.99 with3781.16 the3781.55 stormwater3783.23 management.3783.39 We3783.39 haven't3783.39 designed3783.71 it3784.03 yet,3784.11 but3784.36 the3784.59 answer3784.68 is3784.99 yes.3785.23 We3786.19 can't,3786.76 I3787.32 mean,3787.47 what's3787.71 the3788.36 alternative?3788.59 We3789.16 have3789.41 to3789.57 get3789.73 the3790.13 water.3790.29
3791.09 SANTORO3791.09 -3791.09 Right.3791.89 But3792.93 now3793.17 the3793.33 water3793.49 from3794.45 just3794.93 the3795.25 property3795.33 that's3795.73 there3796.13 now,3799.01 if3799.25 you3799.33 have3799.49 a3800.13 significant3800.37 rainstorm3801.01 or3801.57 you3801.81 have3801.89 significant3802.13 snow,3802.85 drains3804.49 down3804.89 that3805.2 driveway3805.45 and3806.16 moves3806.16 into3806.16 the3806.57 yard3808.01 of3808.16 the3808.24 house3808.41 next3808.64 door.3808.89
3809.2 MORRIS3809.2 -3809.2 I'm3809.2 sure3809.45 it3811.84 does.3811.93 That's3812.24 in3812.49 fact3812.64 one3812.89 of3813.13 the3813.29 benefits3813.45 for3814.01 development.3814.57 A3815.68 little3815.77 bit3816.01 often3816.16 happens3816.49 on3816.89 properties3817.05 that3817.45 aren't3817.68 serviced3817.93 by3818.41 stormwater3819.19 management3819.67 control.3820.23 This3821.03 is3821.27 one3821.51 of3821.67 those3821.75 sites3821.99 because3822.23 of3822.47 this3822.63 change,3823.11 93823.51 foot3823.83 change3824.15 in3824.39 grade3824.55 from3824.87 Mount3826.23 Auburn3826.79 Street3826.79 to3826.79 around3827.19 the3827.51 corner3827.59 of3827.91 Summer3827.99 Street.3828.23 This3828.95 project3829.19 will,3829.99 one3830.15 of3830.15 the3830.23 benefits3830.39 that3830.95 people3831.19 won't3831.51 see,3831.83 at3832.67 least3832.84 until3832.99 it3833.39 rains,3833.55 is3834.03 the3834.19 fact3834.28 that3834.51 there3834.67 will3834.91 be3835.07 stormwater3835.55 drainage3836.67 management3837.32 so3837.64 that3837.88 you3837.95 won't3838.11 have3838.36 flooding3838.59 on3838.99 people's3839.15 properties3839.55 behind3840.03 us.3840.67
3840.91 BER3840.91 -3840.91 Or3840.91 on3840.91 the3840.99 street.3841.07
3841.47 SANTORO3841.47 -3841.47 Is3841.47 that3841.71 wall3841.88 gonna3842.59 remain3842.84 there,3843.23 or3843.55 is3843.8 that3843.95 coming3844.11 out3844.43 that3846.08 abuts3846.4 the3846.72 other3846.88 property?3847.12
3850.16 BER3850.16 -3850.16 If3850.16 the3850.4 wall3850.56 is3850.8 on3850.88 this3851.12 property,3851.28 it's3851.6 going3851.84 to3851.92 be3852.88
3853.36 SANTORO3853.36 -3853.36 I'm3853.36 talking3853.52 about3853.76 the3854 wall3854.16 on3854.48 Mount3854.96 Auburn.3854.96
3854.96 MORRIS3854.96 -3854.96 It3854.96 has3855.12 to3855.28 be3855.44 controlled.3855.6 You3857.76 can't3857.92 allow,3859.44 in3859.6 a3859.68 development3859.84 like3860.24 this,3860.4 you3860.56 can't,3861.14 the3861.3 city3861.3 will3861.45 not3861.61 allow3862.01 a3862.82 development3863.05 where3863.61 the3863.86 water3864.01 is3864.66 allowed3864.82 to3865.14 escape3865.3 onto3865.61 someone3865.93 else's3866.26 property.3866.66
3867.53 SCHREIBER3867.53 -3867.53 No3867.78 development,3867.93 I3868.34 just3868.49 wanted3868.66 to3868.89 clarify3868.97 that.3869.3 Yes.3869.45 So3869.7 we3869.86 have3870.01 a3870.41 stormwater3870.66 ordinance3871.14 in3871.7 place,3871.86 and3872.26 it3873.38 gets3873.61 reviewed3873.78 through3874.26 the3874.49 Department3874.82 of3875.22 Public3875.3 Works.3875.7 And3876.75 so3877.07 today,3877.47 there3878.75 are3878.91 minimal3879.39 controls3880.03 probably3880.43 for3880.83 the3880.99 parking3881.15 lot3881.47 area.3881.71 But3882.67 under3882.91 the3883.23 new3883.39 development,3883.63 they3884.11 would3884.19 have3884.43 to3884.59 accommodate3884.75 1003885.31 year3885.63 storm3885.79 on-site.3886.11 And3887.07 sometimes3887.23 it's3888.13 impossible3888.36 to3888.84 do3888.92 that,3889.09 and3889.24 so3889.41 then3889.57 they3889.64 would3889.8 have3889.96 to3890.2 do3890.28 features3890.92 and3891.32 then3891.41 in3891.64 lieu3891.8 payment3892.05 to3892.84 ensure3893.09 that3893.41 it's3893.57 mitigated.3893.89 But3895.09 there3896.44 will3896.68 be3896.84 a3897.01 substantial3897.24 amount3898.61 more3898.92 water3899.24 that's3899.72 able3900.13 to3900.44 be3900.53 maintained3900.61 on-site3901.01 than3901.48 what3902.45 would3903.33 be3903.65 allowed3903.81 under3904.45 the3904.77 current3904.85 condition.3905.97
3905.97 SANTORO3905.97 -3905.97 Can3906.93 you3907.57 answer3907.81 the3908.13 question3908.21 I3908.61 asked3908.85 about3909.09 the3909.41 wall?3909.57 The3910.29 wall3910.53 that3910.85 is3911.01 there3911.17 now,3911.49 it3913.33 starts3913.57 from3913.97 the3914.13 sidewalk3914.29 and3915.23 goes3915.39 up3915.55 the3915.8 driveway.3916.03
3916.59 BER3916.59 -3916.59 I3916.59 believe3916.68 it's3916.91 on3917.23 the3917.47 abutting3917.71 property3918.11 and3918.51 we3918.76 cannot3918.84 touch3919.23 that.3919.55
3920.03 SANTORO3920.03 -3920.03 I3920.91 believe3921.07 it3922.11 was3922.28 put3922.51 in3922.68 by3922.99 this3923.47 property.3923.71
3928.17 BER3928.17 -3928.17 I3928.17 don't3928.41 have3928.57 the3928.81 site3928.97 in3929.13 front3929.29 of3929.45 the3929.61 existing3929.69 location,3930.09 so3930.49 I'm3930.65 sorry.3930.89
3931.85 SANTORO3931.85 -3931.85 I3931.85 believe3931.93 it3932.25 was.3932.49
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3938.17 FELTNER3938.57 -3938.57 So,3939.05 does3939.77 the3940.01 two3940.17 family3940.33 next3940.81 to3941.05 it,3941.21 do3942.01 they3942.17 know3942.49 that3943.05 there's3943.49 a3943.81 three3945.89 story3946.13 building3946.53 going3947.09 up3947.33 near3947.49 the3947.72 yard?3948.05
3948.93 MORRIS3948.93 -3948.93 Well,3948.93 they3949.09 were3949.24 certainly3949.41 notified3949.72 of3950.2 this3950.29 meeting3951.24 and3951.72 they3951.72 were3951.72 notified3951.72 of3951.72 the3951.89 historic3952.05 district3952.45 council3953.33 meetings3953.64 as3954.05 well.3954.13
3954.61 M3954.61 SULLIVAN3954.61 -3954.61 We3954.61 know.3954.85
3957.78 MORRIS3957.78 -3957.78 Peter,3957.78 was3958.02 that3958.18 wall3958.34 did3958.58 you3958.74 install3958.98 that3959.3 wall3959.46 in3959.86 the3959.94 back?3960.1
3960.66 PETER3960.66 BEDROSIAN3960.66 -3960.66 RESIDENT3960.66 -3960.66 Yeah.3960.66 No.3960.82 I3961.22 handed3962.26 over3962.74 them.3962.98 I3963.22 introduced3963.38 them.3964.18
3965.14 MORRIS3965.14 -3965.14 No.3965.14 Did3965.14 you3965.3 install3965.54 that3966.02 wall?3966.26
3966.58 BER3967.22 -3967.22 The3967.22 wall3967.38 right3967.54 here.3967.78
3967.94 MORRIS3967.94 -3967.94 Did3968.02 you3968.5 install3968.5 that3968.5 wall3968.66 in3968.9 the3969.14 rear3969.22 lot?3969.86
3970.27 BEDROSIAN3970.27 -3970.27 The3970.27 neighbor.3970.51
3971.22 MORRIS3971.22 -3971.22 The3971.22 neighbor3971.39 did?3971.86
3972.27 SANTORO3972.27 -3972.27 No.3974.91 The3975.55 neighbor3975.63 did3975.95 not.3976.11 So3978.34 whoever3978.59 was3979.14 in3979.39 it3979.55 before3979.7 Peter3980.43 was3980.74 there3980.99 did3981.95 it.3982.11
3982.99 MORRIS3983.31 -3983.31 The3983.31 previous3983.31 owner?3984.91
3985.55 SANTORO3985.55 -3985.55 Yes.3985.55
3986.15 UNIDENTIFIED3986.15 SPEAKER3986.15 -3986.15 RESIDENT3986.15 -3986.15 I3986.15 think3986.23 that's3986.47 what,3986.55 it's3986.95 close3987.11 to3987.35 the3987.51 property3987.67 line,3987.99 the3988.15 retaining3988.31 wall.3988.79 It's3988.95 close3990.87 to3991.11 that3991.19 line.3991.27 Sorry.3991.59
3992.15 SCHREIBER3992.15 -3992.15 So3992.15 There's3992.71 two,3993.59 I3993.83 just3993.91 wanna3994.07 clarify.3994.31 There's3994.63 two3994.87 different3995.03 things.3995.35 There's3995.59 an3995.75 old3995.99 stone3996.31 wall3996.63 that3997.03 runs3997.59 between3997.99 the3998.71 properties3998.95 on3999.51 Mount3999.75 Auburn3999.99 Street,4000.88 and4000.88 then4001.03 there's4001.2 a4001.84 block4002.07 to,4002.72 well,4002.88 that4003.2 would4003.36 not4003.51 be4003.59
4003.68 SANTORO4003.68 -4003.68 That's4003.68 what4003.91 I'm4003.99 talk4004.16 talking4004.39 about,4004.64 the4004.88 block4004.88 wall.4004.88
4004.88 SCHREIBER4004.88 -4004.88 That4005.68 is4005.76 adjacent.4005.99 That4006.64 is4006.8 part4006.95 of4007.2 the4007.36 previous4007.51 parking4007.91 lot.4008.24 That's4008.8 not4009.11 like,4009.84 there's4010.07 a4010.32 block,4010.95 right?4011.2 It's4011.2 directly4011.43 adjacent4011.91 to4012.32 the4012.47 the4013.2 parking4013.76 lot4014.24 that's4014.47 there4014.72 today.4014.88 Just4015.82 let4016.06 me4016.14 know4016.22 the4016.54 center4016.7 block.4016.94
4017.98 BER4017.98 -4017.98 Is4017.98 it4018.22 on4018.46 their4019.58 side4019.82 of4019.98 the4020.06 line4020.22 or4020.54 our4020.62 side4021.02 of4021.02 the4021.1 line?4021.26
4021.58 SANTORO4024.22 -4024.22 It's4024.22 not4024.46 part4025.9 of4026.3 the4026.54 Summer4026.7 Street4027.1 property4027.66 that4028.22 abuts4028.38 that,4030.38 so4030.61 I'm4030.61 asking,4030.93 what4031.66 is4031.89 the4032.06 plan4032.3 for4032.78 that?4033.1
4035.02 MORRIS4035.02 -4035.02 If4035.02 it's4035.26 on4035.41 the4035.66 other4035.74 property,4035.97 we4036.3 can't4036.45 touch4036.7 it.4036.86
4037.1 SANTORO4037.1 -4037.1 It's4037.1 not4037.18 on4037.41 the4037.49 other4037.66 property.4037.89
4038.45 MORRIS4038.45 -4038.45 If4038.45 it's4038.54 on4038.78 this4038.93 property?4039.18
4044.39 SANTORO4044.39 -4044.39 Yes.4044.39 So4044.39 you're4044.55 not,4044.79 again,4045.03 not4045.43 aware.4045.67
4046.31 MORRIS4046.31 -4046.31 I4046.31 don't4046.47 know4046.71 the4046.87 landscape4046.95 plan.4047.51 Can4047.75 you4047.83 show4047.99 the4048.15 landscape4048.31 plan?4048.87
4056.68 BER4056.68 -4056.68 I4057.8 mean,4057.84 it's4057.88 on4058.11 the4058.28 driveway.4058.52 If4058.84 it's4058.99 on4059.16 the4059.39 driveway,4059.47 it4061.39 will4061.64 probably4061.88 be4062.28 affected4062.52 by4062.99 construction4063.32 activities4064.04 here,4064.6 but4064.84 we4065.08 can4065.16 restore4065.47 it4065.95 at4066.28 the4066.43 end4066.6 of4066.76 construction4066.91 to4067.64 functionally4068.28 serve4069.72 the4070.52 purpose4070.76 that4071.08 it's4071.24 serving4071.4 today.4071.8 In4073 other4073.24 words,4073.48 protect4074.12 the4075.56 line.4077.16
4077.16 SCHREIBER4077.16 -4077.16 They4085.14 would4085.3 be4085.45 redeveloping4085.61 that4086.26 portion4086.41 of4086.97 the4087.14 site.4087.21
4087.53 SANTORO4087.53 -4087.53 Yeah.4087.53 So4087.7 how4088.41 high4088.57 would4088.66 that4088.89 wall4089.05 be4089.38 then4089.53 at4089.78 that4089.93 once4090.73 you4091.05 finish4091.21 the4091.53 project?4091.7
4092.89 BER4092.89 -4092.89 It4092.89 doesn't4093.05 have4093.38 to4093.53 be4093.7 much4093.86 higher4094.01 than4094.26 it4094.41 is4094.57 today4094.82 because4096.34 we're4096.9 not,4097.14 we've4097.75 not4097.99 affected4098.31 grading4098.87 any4099.27 difference.4099.59
4100.07 SCHREIBER4100.07 -4100.07 They're4100.07 putting4100.31 landscape4100.71 in4101.11 place4101.75 of4101.99 that,4102.15 so4102.47 this4105.91 is4106.15 the4106.39 area4106.47 where4106.79 that4107.03 block4112.11 wall4112.43 is,4112.43 so4112.43 that's4112.43 the4112.76 landscaped4112.91 area4113.47 of4113.8 the4113.88 new4114.03 proposal,4115.72 right4115.88 here.4115.88 And4116.91 so4117.15 they4118.51 still4119.39 need4119.64 to4119.8 work4119.88 on4120.11 their4120.27 grading4120.43 plan4121.23 to4121.64 ensure4121.88 that4122.19 they4122.51 don't4122.68 need4122.91 a4123.07 step4124.62 there.4124.86 And4124.94 if4125.18 they4125.42 don't,4125.5 then4125.82 it4125.9
4126.22 SANTORO4126.22 -4126.22 So4126.22 are4126.46 they4126.62 makin4126.78 the4126.9 driveway4127.02 narrower?4127.74
4128.7 SCHREIBER4128.7 -4128.7 The4128.7 driveway4129.02 was4129.5 lifted4129.74 with4130.94 the4131.1 wall4131.26 when4132.46 they4132.7 drove4132.78 down4134.06 the4134.46 parking4134.46 lot.4134.46 And4134.86 that's4135.1 the4135.34 whole4135.5 development,4135.74 so4136.22 that4136.38 would4136.54 be4136.7 removed,4138.78 with4139.18 this4139.34 project.4139.58
4139.98 BER4139.98 -4139.98 And4139.98 what4140.6 the4140.91 wall4140.99 does,4141.4 in4142.68 case4142.84 on4143.16 Gideon's4143.64 point,4144.11 it4144.68 mitigates4144.91 the4145.48 grades4145.72 with4146.35 the4146.6 property4146.84 were4147.64 the4149.07 existing4149.07 parking4150.35 lot4150.76 is4150.99 and4151.31 the4151.72 grade4151.95 on4152.44 the4152.68 other4152.84 side.4153.07 That4154.3 segregation4154.62 doesn't4155.18 have4155.5 to4155.66 happen4155.82 around4156.06 the4156.38 wall.4156.46 It4156.86 can4156.94 be4157.26 gradual4157.42 here,4157.9 and4158.38 you4158.54 can,4158.7 it's4159.1 not4159.26 even4159.34 saturated.4159.58 We4160.22 actually4160.54 prevent4163.66 some4163.66 of4163.82 the4164.06 run4164.22 off4165.18 to4165.66 the4165.9 neighbors.4166.06
4173.7 SANTORO4173.7 -4173.7 You4173.78 did4175.55 this4175.7 design,4177.7 and4179.15 you4179.39 didn't4179.55 even4179.78 know4180.1 that4180.82 that4180.98 wall4181.22 was4182.22 part4182.46 of4182.62 the4182.78 property.4183.02
4183.58 BER4183.58 -4183.58 I'm4183.58 an4183.74 architect4183.98 not4184.38 a4184.62 civil4184.7 engineer.4184.94 It's4186.46 the4186.54 civil4186.54 engineer4186.86 who4187.58 design4187.74 that.4188.14 In4188.38 fact,4188.62 they're4188.86 working4189.26 on4190.06 it4190.14 as4190.3 we4190.46 speak.4190.7 But4191.5 we4191.74 don't4192.22 have4192.38 their4192.62 work4192.86 for4193.1 that4193.26 yet.4193.42
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
4201.35 FELTNER4201.35 -4201.35 Well,4201.35 I'll4201.68 just4201.76 say,4202.07 you4202.31 know,4202.48 our4203.11 new4203.35 resident4203.52 made4203.99 some4204.24 great4204.4 points4204.72 of4205.11 things4205.2 he4205.52 likes4205.68 in4205.91 historic4206.64 district.4208.81 We've4208.81 lost4209.13 a4209.37 lot4209.45 of4209.77 history4210.41 over4210.97 the4211.21 years4211.29 in4211.69 Watertown.4211.85 There's4212.33 renewed4212.65 interest4213.21 in4214.01 history,4214.25 which4214.65 is4214.89 great.4215.05 We4216.81 don't4216.97 know4217.21 who4217.37 we4217.53 are4217.69 if4218.09 we4218.25 don't4218.41 know4218.65 our4218.81 history.4218.97 I4220.53 don't4220.78 see4221.02 how4221.18 this4221.34 lends4221.57 anything4221.98 to4222.7 our4223.57 history,4225.02 not4225.34 in4225.34 style,4225.57 not4226.78 for4227.1 the4227.41 new4227.57 residents4227.81 that4228.22 are4228.38 gonna4228.53 live4228.78 there.4229.02 There's4229.26 no4229.49 courtyard.4229.74 There's4230.3 no4230.45 place4230.7 for4230.94 them4231.1 to4231.34 gather,4231.49 to4231.9 engage4232.06 with4232.45 the4232.61 community.4232.78 Again,4234.32 you4234.72 know,4234.96 it's4235.12 on4235.44 us4235.6 on4235.84 this4236.08 124236.4 foot4236.72 sidewalk4237.2 mandate4238.08 that's4238.56 proving4239.04 to4239.52 be4239.6 problematic4239.92 with4240.56 these4240.72 projects4242.32 that's4242.56 in4242.72 the4242.96 zoning.4243.12 You4246.16 know,4246.32 I4247.55 keep4247.63 bringing4247.94 this4248.27 up.4248.51 I4249.55 say,4249.63 where's4249.78 the4250.19 green4250.35 space4250.59 or4250.98 open4251.23 space?4251.55 How4251.78 we4251.94 define4252.19 it?4252.51 Oh,4252.59 we're4252.66 gonna4252.82 use4253.06 the4253.31 river.4253.47 Oh,4253.86 we're4254.02 gonna4254.19 use4254.43 the4254.66 park.4254.82 We4255.63 don't4255.78 own4256.02 the4256.19 river.4256.43 There's4256.74 no4257.47 place4257.63 for4257.86 dogs,4258.1 which4259.15 means4259.39 more4260.15 stress4260.39 on4260.79 the4260.87 neighborhood.4261.03 We4261.43 get4261.59 more4261.83 and4261.99 more4262.15 stress.4262.31 I4262.71 love4263.11 dogs.4263.35 I'm4263.75 a4263.99 dog4264.07 owner4264.31 myself.4264.63 I4265.11 have4265.27 a4265.43 yard.4265.59 Where4266.79 do4267.11 new4267.27 people4267.43 go?4267.75 On4268.79 the4268.95 sidewalk,4269.11 the4269.99 curb4270.15 cuts,4270.63 other4271.43 people's4271.83 properties4272.87 to4273.95 take4274.1 care4274.27 of4275.31 their4275.47 pets.4275.78
4276.99 And,4276.99 you4278.19 know,4278.35 not4278.59 having4278.74 an4279.06 elevator,4279.31 that4279.86 really4280.1 restricts4280.91 it4281.39 as4281.78 well,4281.95 whether4282.35 you're4282.66 trying4282.91 to4283.15 age4283.31 in4283.55 place,4283.7 or4283.95 you4284.19 have4284.59 disabilities,4284.74 or4285.63 etcetera.4285.86 I'm4288.39 just4288.55 really4288.71 disappointed.4289.03 And4289.75 like4290.31 I4290.55 said,4290.71 you4292.31 have4292.47 a4292.79 building4293.03 with4293.51 a4293.75 preservation4293.75 award4294.39 on4294.71 the4294.79 edge4294.95 of4295.19 the4295.27 historic4295.51 district.4295.91 I4296.79 understand4296.95 we4297.75 don't4297.91 wanna4298.15 tear4298.47 things4298.71 down.4299.11 But4299.59 what4299.75 you're4299.91 showing4300.23 me4300.55 right4300.71 now4302.86 just4302.94 makes4303.26 me4303.43 feel4303.66 hopeless.4303.9 And4304.86 others4305.26 that4305.59 say,4305.74 you4305.98 might4306.15 as4306.39 well4306.47 tear4306.63 down4306.78 the4307.02 whole4307.19 thing4307.34 and4308.39 build4308.55 something4308.78 new4309.34 that's4310.22 in4310.55 keeping4310.7 with4311.51 the4311.98 historic4312.15 district4312.7 rather4313.43 than,4313.82 I4314.96 mean,4315.04 this4315.2 is4315.52 not4315.68 knit4316.32 together4316.8 with4318.16 the4318.72 old4318.96 structure.4319.28
4321.2 MORRIS4321.2 -4321.2 As4321.2 I4321.36 said4321.52 at4321.76 the4321.92 beginning4322.08 of4322.48 the4322.56 meeting,4322.72 there4323.12 were4323.28 two4323.44 ways4323.68 to4323.92 go.4324.08 We4325.12 were4325.28 basically4325.52 directed4326.32 by4326.88 the4327.2 historic4327.36 district4327.84 commission,4328.24 which4328.96 of4329.2 those4329.36 paths4329.68 to4330 take.4330.24
4331.1 FELTNER4331.1 -4331.1 And4331.1 as4331.73 we4332.06 heard4332.3 tonight,4332.53 you're4333.26 getting4333.49 more4333.81 direction4334.06 from4334.94 the4335.57 public.4335.73 You'll4336.38 get4336.61 more4336.85 direction4337.1 from4337.49 planning4337.73 board,4338.14 ZBA,4338.94 come4340.22 back4340.45 to4340.7 the4340.85 historic4341.02 district.4341.49 They've4342.38 heard4342.7 more,4343.98 unfortunately,4344.22 all4344.22 the4344.38 meetings4344.45 have4344.9 only4345.23 been4345.57 on4345.9 Zoom4346.23 and4346.57 people4346.9 haven't4347.24 been4347.57 attending4347.9 the4348.24 meetings.4348.57 So4349.24 as4349.57 more4349.91 awareness4350.24 comes,4350.57 you're4350.91 gonna4351.24 get4351.57 more4351.91 feedback.4352.24 That's4352.58 the4352.91 purpose4353.24 of4353.58 these4354.24 meetinga.4354.58 So4354.58 I'm4354.91 just4355.25 sharing4355.58 with4355.91 you4356.25 that,4356.58 the4358.03 majority4358.19 of4358.76 people4358.99 are4359.95 very4360.11 unhappy.4360.44 The4360.91 majority4361.07 of4361.48 people4361.56 understand4361.95 that4362.91 we're4363.07 trying4363.31 to4363.72 build4364.19 more4364.44 housing.4364.68 Watertown's4365.16 not4365.8 gonna4365.95 solve4366.27 the4366.6 housing4366.76 crisis,4367.16 but4367.95 we4368.19 are4368.35 trying4368.68 to4368.91 find4369.8 places4370.11 for4370.6 infill4370.84 and4371.23 where4371.31 we4371.56 can4371.72 do4371.88 it.4372.03 But4372.89 it4372.97 should4373.05 be4373.21 done4373.37 in4373.61 a4373.77 sensitive4374.09 way,4374.57 in4374.97 a4375.13 way4375.21 that4375.45 we're4375.61 proud4375.85 of,4376.09 in4376.25 a4376.41 way4376.49 that4376.73 inspires4376.97 us,4377.53 that4377.77 it4378.01 wants4378.09 us4378.41 to4378.65 engage4379.37 with4379.77 each4380.01 other,4380.17 whether4380.41 it's4380.73 front4380.97 porches4381.21 or4381.61 others,4381.77 like4382.01 we4382.25 have4382.33 in4382.57 our4382.65 design4382.81 guidelines.4383.61 And,4384.25 unfortunately,4384.41 this4385.05 parcel4385.29 got4386.86 caught4387.26 up4387.59 in4387.74 the4387.9 zoning4388.63 that4389.02 somehow4389.34 it's4390.94 Downtown4391.26 Watertown,4391.74 which4392.3 it4392.7 really4392.94 is4393.19 not4393.34 Downtown4393.82 Watertown4394.47 in4394.94 the4395.19 sense4395.26 that4395.66 it4395.98 is4396.7 the4397.1 starting4398.22 point4398.7 on4399.26 that4399.51 end4399.82 of4400.54 Mount4400.7 Auburn,4400.94 of4401.42 the4401.5 historic4401.66 district,4402.14 our4402.54 very4402.7 small4403.02 historic4403.42 district.4403.82 There's4405.5 no4405.82 elements4406.06 here4406.46 reflecting4407.26 that.4407.74 There's4408.7 no4408.94 court4409.18 again,4409.42 no4409.74 courtyard.4409.9 I4410.46 just4411.74 don't4411.9 understand4412.22 this4412.54 design.4412.78 And4413.1 as4413.26 you4413.42 said,4413.58 there4413.82 is4413.98 no4414.14 style.4414.38 And4415.65 I4416.05 don't,4417.65 it4417.9 doesn't4418.22 speak,4418.61 it4419.18 certainly4419.18 doesn't4419.49 speak4419.73 to4419.97 community4420.22 preservation,4420.69 let4422.38 alone4422.69 conservation.4423.09
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
4429.72 JAMES4429.72 SPENCER4429.72 -4429.72 RESIDENT4429.72 -4429.72 My4429.72 name4429.96 is4430.12 James4430.36 Spencer.4430.76 The4432.76 vote4432.84 in4433.08 this4433.56 historic4434.2 district4434.6 condition4435 was4435.48 not4435.72 unanimous.4435.96 There4436.6 was4436.76 one4437.24 vote4437.48 against4437.64 the4438.2 party4438.36 because4439.8 of4440.36 a4440.52 lot4440.6 of4440.84 the4441 comments4441.64 that4442.12 you've4442.28 heard4442.52 through.4442.76
4444.01 MORRIS4444.18 -4444.18 Thank4444.18 you4444.41 for4444.49 clarifying4444.81 the4445.22 record.4445.38 Yes,4447.38 ma'am.4447.61
4448.09 M4448.09 SULLIVAN4448.09 -4448.09 Last4448.09 time,4448.41 I4448.65 promise.4448.81 This4449.61 is4449.85 my4449.93 neighborhood,4451.53 I4452.09 live4452.26 here.4452.57 You4453.61 know,4453.77 it's4454.01 really4454.65 easy4455.05 at4455.77 times4456.01 to4456.34 go4456.49 to4456.65 a4456.73 meeting4456.89 and4457.14 live4457.38 somewhere4457.61 else,4458.09 and4459.12 to4459.36 say4459.44 this4459.92 will4460.16 be4460.4 terrific4460.64 but4461.84 it's4462.08 not4462.8 too4463.04 far4463.2 from4463.52 where4463.76 I4463.92 live.4464.08 I4464.56 could4464.64 throw4464.88 a4465.12 ball4465.2 to4465.44 it.4465.6 And4466.72 I'm4467.92 sure4468.24 that4468.48 many4468.88 of4469.12 my4469.36 neighbors4469.52 would4470 be4470.16 here.4470.4 I4471.85 did4472.01 not4472.16 get4472.4 a4472.65 letter4472.73 for4473.05 this4473.36 meeting4473.6 from4474.24 the4474.48 architect,4474.73 like,4475.85 two4476.16 days4476.32 ago,4476.65 and4477.28 I'm4477.52 sure4477.69 they4478.01 would4478.16 be4478.4 here.4478.48 I4478.73 haven't4478.89 even4479.13 had4479.44 the4479.6 opportunity4479.69 to4480.32 speak4480.4 with4480.73 them,4482.01 and4482.24 I4482.24 know4482.4 they4482.65 feel4482.89 the4483.13 same4483.28 way.4483.52 We4484.09 have4484.24 sent4484.48 it4484.65 in4484.81 emails4485.05 and4485.44 photos4486.35 and4486.91 said,4487.07 how4487.39 could4487.55 they4487.71 fit4488.03 this4489.23 building4490.27 in4491.39 that4491.63 space4491.95 for4493.95 it4494.27 to4494.59 be4494.75 in4495.15 the4495.63 historic4495.79 district4496.43 and4496.75 for4496.91 it4497.15 to4497.31 blend4499.11 in4499.51 and4500.07 to4500.31 enhance4500.88 our4501.35 neighborhood.4501.59 And4503.19 if4503.43 someone's4503.59 buying4503.99 a4504.31 property4504.47 and4504.88 trying4505.35 to4505.59 make4505.76 it4505.91 feasible,4506.07 and4506.55 they4506.72 have4506.88 to4507.11 go4507.19 up4507.43 five4508.55 floors,4508.88 I4509.99 kind4510.15 of4510.39 don't4510.55 want4510.8 it4511.11 in4511.84 my4512 neighborhood.4512.24 That4513.2 wasn't4513.44 my4513.84 choice.4514.08 I4514.96 think4515.04 when4515.28 you4515.52 when4515.76 you4515.92 buy4516.64 a4516.96 property,4517.04 I4517.76 mean,4517.84 it4518 should4518.24 probably4518.48 be4519.04 figured4519.2 out,4519.52 like,4519.84 what4520.56 would4520.72 be4520.96 the4521.12 best4521.28 thing4521.52 to4521.76 do4521.92 with4522.08 the4522.24 property.4522.4 And,4523.6 it4525.2 seems4525.36 to4525.68 be4525.84 all4526 about4526.16 money.4526.56 And4528.77 if4529.01 you4529.26 have4529.34 a4529.57 lot4529.65 of4529.9 families4529.98 living4530.45 in4530.77 here,4530.94 I4531.18 mean,4531.26 there4531.57 won't4531.98 be4532.22 a4532.38 limit,4533.65 you4533.81 know?4533.81 And4534.05 they're4534.3 just4534.61 you4535.09 have4535.41 to4535.73 see4535.9 the4536.14 property.4536.3 There4536.94 was4537.09 just4537.34 no4537.57 way4537.73 in4537.9 hell4538.05 you4538.38 can4538.45 plant4538.69 a4539.01 tree.4539.18
4540.3 You4540.3 can't4540.45 plant,4540.77 no.4541.18 Let4541.57 me4541.73 finish.4542.72 You4542.96 cannot4543.36 plant4543.76 a4544.32 tree4544.56 on4545.2 the4545.36 property4545.52 if4546.32 you're4546.48 going4546.72 that4547.2 big4547.44 and4547.84 that4548.08 wide.4548.32 It's4548.96 not4549.76 possible.4550 It's4550.96 just4551.12 not4551.36 possible.4551.6 So4552.08 everyone,4552.32 tomorrow4553.44 morning4553.84 when4554.16 you4554.32 get4554.48 your4554.64 coffee,4554.88 take4555.2 a4555.36 walk4555.52 around4555.84 that4556.16 property.4556.4 And4557.55 I4557.7 think4557.86 of4557.94 the4558.26 two4558.43 family4558.66 next4558.98 door.4559.3 You4560.1 know,4560.26 I've4560.51 known4560.66 the4560.9 people4560.98 who4561.3 have4561.47 lived4561.63 there.4561.86 I4562.82 think4562.98 of,4563.22 like,4563.47 taking4564.02 the4564.34 corner4564.51 and4564.9 kids4565.06 taking4565.39 the4565.78 corner4565.86 for4566.26 school4566.43 and4566.98 not4567.3 being4567.47 able4567.7 to4568.02 see4568.26 over.4568.74 You4569.63 are4569.78 putting4570.02 up4570.34 a4570.59 block4570.82 building,4571.22 and4572.64 that's4572.88 what4573.6 this4573.84 looks4574.08 like.4574.32 It's4575.44 just4575.68 like4575.92 a4576.16 little4576.32 square4576.72 box4577.2 building.4578.32 And4579.44 my4580.64 neighborhood4580.96 is4581.44 more4581.68 worthy4581.84 of4582.48 something4582.96 more4583.84 thoughtful.4585.52 And4585.76 I4585.76 think4585.84 our4586.16 neighbors4586.4 should4586.88 be4588.47 more4588.7 informed4589.1 about4589.59 the4589.82 meetings4589.98 that4591.27 they4591.51 can4591.74 be4591.9 here4592.06 and4592.31 you4592.55 can4592.63 hear4592.86 what4593.02 they4593.27 have4593.51 to4593.66 say.4593.74 They4594.06 have4594.31 lived4594.55 here4594.78 for4595.1 25,4595.34 and4595.9 30,4596.06 and4596.31 404596.47 years.4596.78 And4597.98 I4598.23 think4598.31 it's4598.55 important4598.7 that4599.19 communication4599.34 is4600.06 honest4600.39 and4601.27 it's4601.43 truthful.4601.66 And4602.94 this4604.36 got4604.52 by4604.84 everyone.4605.08 Were4605.48 the4605.72 meetings4605.88 during4606.2 the4606.52 summer?4606.76
4609.56 MORRIS4609.56 -4609.56 This4609.56 process4609.88 started4610.28 back4610.68 in4610.84 April.4611.08
4612.12 M4612.12 SULLIVAN4612.12 -4612.12 But4612.12 were4612.36 the4612.92 meetings4613.08 during4613.48 the4613.8 summer?4613.88
4614.2 MORRIS4614.2 -4614.2 It's4614.2 continuously4615 going4615 on4615.32 for4615.88 the4616.04 last4616.2 six4616.44 months.4616.76
4617.16 M4617.16 SULLIVAN4617.16 -4617.16 Yeah.4617.16 So4617.4 meetings4617.64 over4618.12 the4618.36 summer.4619.69 You4619.69 know,4619.85 our4620.09 neighbors4620.24
4620.77 MORRIS4620.77 -4620.77 No.4620.77 I4620.77 don't4620.89 think4621.05 there4621.76 were4622.48 any4622.48 meetings4622.48
4622.48 BER4622.48 -4622.48 The4622.48 final4622.89 historic4623.6 district4623.93 commission4624.24 meeting4624.65 was4624.97 on4625.2 the4625.36 26th4625.77 of,4626.09 June.4626.65
4627.2 M4628.41 SULLIVAN4628.41 -4628.41 You4628.41 know,4628.56 our4629.28 neighbors4629.52 our4630.32 whole4630.48 row4630.73 house,4630.97 we4631.2 didn't4631.36 even4631.69 know4631.93 about4632.09 this.4632.32 We4632.89 had4633.05 no4633.28 idea.4633.45
4634.49 MORRIS4634.49 -4634.49 Well,4634.49 your4634.73 voice4634.89 has4635.13 been4635.29 heard4635.45 this4635.77 evening.4635.93
4636.41 M4636.41 SULLIVAN4636.41 -4636.41 I4636.41 hope4636.49 so.4636.81 I4637.85 hope4638.01 so.4638.25 Fred4638.65 hears4638.97 it4639.29 every4639.45 day.4639.61 Poor4641.05 thing.4641.37
4642.41 MORRIS4642.41 -4642.41 How4642.41 long4642.65 have4642.89 you4642.97 lived4643.13 where4643.37 you4643.53 live?4643.69
4644.33 M4644.33 SULLIVAN4644.33 -4644.33 664644.33 years.4644.97
4645.69 MORRIS4645.69 -4645.69 Did4645.69 you4645.93 grow4646.01 up4646.17 in4646.33 Watertown?4646.49 I4647.13 did.4647.21
4647.94 MORRIS4647.94 -4647.94 Well,4647.94 I4648.02 grew4648.1 up4648.26 in4648.34 Newton,4648.49 so4648.81 we4648.98 both4649.14 have4649.38 roots4649.53 in4649.77 where4649.94 we4650.18 live.4650.41
4650.81 M4650.81 SULLIVAN4650.81 -4650.81 Right.4650.81 And4650.98 I4651.14 live4651.22 in4651.38 an4651.94 old4652.18 row4652.41 house4654.81 and4655.06 I4655.06 take4655.14 everything,4656.34 I4656.65 love4656.73 Watertown.4657.14 I4658.18 love4658.34 my4658.57 home.4658.73 I4659.14 do4659.61 feel4659.85 that4660.18 there4660.41 needs4660.65 to4660.98 be4661.06 more4662.12 housing.4662.36 There4662.84 could4663.08 be,4663.32 you4664.04 know,4664.2 two4664.68 condos4665.08 or4665.56 something4665.8 more4666.12 reasonable4666.44 here.4667.08 8,4668.84 7,4669.24 6,4669.96 7,4670.36 8.4670.84 It's4671.16 not4671.4 feasible.4671.64 It's4672.36 just4672.92 not4673.16 feasible4673.32 on4673.88 this4674.12 property.4674.28
4676.2 F4676.2 SULLIVAN4676.2 -4676.2 Watertown4676.2 is4676.2 in4676.2 the4676.2 midst4676.28 of4676.6 a4676.77 renaissance4676.93 right4677.49 now.4677.65 And4679.01 it's4679.89 gonna4680.05 continue4680.28 to4680.69 grow4680.85 that4681.09 way.4681.32 So4681.56 we're4681.81 all4681.97 just4682.2 trying4682.36 to4682.6 do4682.69 the4682.85 right4682.93 thing.4683.16 We4683.32 just4683.56 wanna4683.73 make4684.05 sure4684.28 that4684.52 we4684.69 don't4685.32 lose4685.56 what4685.97 we've4686.13 been4687.01 given4687.24 and4688.18 that4688.34 we,4688.66 we4689.3 shape4689.54 it4689.78 so4689.94 that4690.18 we4690.42 can4690.74 hand4690.9 it4691.06 out4691.14 to4691.3 the4691.46 next4691.54 group.4691.78 And4692.5 I4692.9 really4693.14 think4693.38 we're4693.54 in4693.78 a4693.86 wonderful4694.02 place4694.42 right4694.74 now,4694.9 and4695.22 Watertown4695.7 is4696.18 a4696.42 wonderful4696.5 place,4696.82 and4697.06 we4697.22 should4697.3 have4697.46 high4697.62 expectations.4697.94
4699.14 M4699.14 SULLIVAN4699.14 -4699.14 So4699.14 Yeah.4699.54 We4699.86 love4700.02 it4700.26 here.4701.06 We've4701.85 raised4702.18 our4702.41 children4702.57 here4702.98 and4703.14 our4703.38 grandchildren4703.53 here.4704.26 I4704.65 love4704.81 my4704.98 home.4705.22
4707.01 MORRIS4707.01 -4707.01 Have4707.3 you4707.38 grandchildren4707.61 been4708.18 able4708.34 to4708.65 afford4708.81 to4709.14 live4709.22 here?4709.45
4711.3 F4711.85 SULLIVAN4711.85 -4711.85 No.4711.85
4712.26 M4712.26 SULLIVAN4712.26 -4712.26 No.4712.26 They4712.26 can't4712.49 afford4712.73 to4713.14 live4713.22 here.4713.45
4714.38 F4714.38 SULLIVAN4714.38 -4714.38 No.4714.38 Maybe4714.38 by4714.38 a4714.78 miracle4714.86 they4715.26 will.4715.34
4715.58 M4715.58 SULLIVAN4715.58 -4715.58 No.4715.58 But4716.06 this4716.62 needs,4716.86 I4717.26 think4717.34 this4717.66 needs4717.9 to4718.14 go4718.46 through4718.62 some4718.94 changes.4720.7
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
4728.81 GORDON4728.81 -4728.81 My4728.81 final4728.97 comment4729.28 for4729.52 the4729.69 night.4729.77 Those4730.01 last4730.16 comments4730.41 really4730.81 hit4730.97 a4731.2 nerve4731.28 for4731.52 me.4731.69 I4732.24 have4732.41 a4732.65 34732.73 year4732.89 old4733.05 and4733.2 a4733.36 54733.45 year4733.6 old4733.77 who4733.93 attend4734.09 the4734.32 Russell4734.41 Cooperative4734.73 Preschool.4735.28 We4735.85 can4736.01 see4736.16 this4736.41 building.4736.65 Without4737.77 building4738.16 more4738.73 units,4738.97 my4739.94 children4740.1 will4740.66 not4740.82 be4741.14 able4741.22 to4741.54 live4741.7 in4742.02 the4742.1 city,4742.58 my4742.74 daughter4742.74 was4743.06 literally4743.38 born4743.78 in.4744.1 One4744.34 of4744.5 the4744.58 few4744.74 people4744.9 who4745.14 can4745.22 say4745.46 that.4745.62 So4746.5 I4747.46 really,4747.7 really4748.02 want4748.42 to4748.58 support4748.82 these4749.14 types4749.38 of4749.54 developments.4749.78 I4750.34 know4750.5 it's4750.58 difficult4750.9 being4751.3 in4751.54 the4751.7 historic4751.86 district.4752.26 This4753.76 group4754.15 has4754.48 worked4754.72 incredibly4754.95 hard.4755.68 The4756.72 city4756.88 has4757.19 worked4757.35 incredibly4757.59 hard.4758.15 I4759.52 think4759.68 it's4759.99 really4760.31 important4760.64 that4761.27 we4762.23 allow4762.64 new4763.19 developments4763.35 to4763.91 come4763.99 into4764.15 the4764.4 city,4764.55 particularly4764.88 where4765.44 transit4765.68 is4766.15 accessible,4766.31 particularly4766.88 where4767.52 there4768.97 is4769.21 so4769.77 many4770.01 opportunities4770.41 for4771.61 shopping,4772.25 for4772.73 going4772.97 to4773.13 the4773.29 library,4773.45 for4774.17 attending4774.33 that4774.73 preschool4774.97 that4775.69 my4775.93 children4776.09 go4776.49 to,4777.37 which4778.17 needs4778.17 enrollment.4778.49
4779.69 M4780.17 SULLIVAN4780.17 -4780.17 And4780.17 I4780.41 agree4780.57 with4780.89 that,4781.05 but4781.29 I4781.53 do4781.69 not4781.85 agree4782.09 with4782.41 as4783.2 many4783.44 units4783.68 as4784.11 that's4784.72 available.4784.88 Units.4785.2
4785.99 F4785.99 SULLIVAN4785.99 -4785.99 That's4785.99 all4786.24 we're4786.4 saying.4786.64
4787.28 MORRIS4787.28 -4787.28 I4787.28 think4787.52 that4787.84 we've4788.07 heard4788.4 that4789.91 whatever4790.07 you4791.52 were4791.91 interested4791.91 to4791.91 say,4791.91 to4791.91 the4792.07 best4792.16 of4792.4 my4792.56 ability.4792.72 I4793.6 tend4793.76 to4793.99 take4794.16 notes4794.4 to4794.8 memorialize4794.88 that4795.68 going4796.24 forward.4796.48 Since4797.71 we've4797.95 now4798.11 reached4798.43 the4798.75 end4798.83 of4798.99 this4799.15 meeting,4799.31 we4799.63 want4799.79 to4800.03 basically4800.11 thank4800.75 you4800.99 all4801.23 personally4801.47 for4801.95 coming.4802.11 Because4802.91 it's4803.23 meetings4806.27 like4806.75 these4806.83 where4807.71 our4807.95 democracy4808.19 still4808.83 continues4809.15 to4809.63 flourish4811.55 and,4811.7 unfortunately,4811.7 it's4812.19 under4812.35 attack.4812.74 So4814.19 I'm4814.43 glad4814.59 you4814.82 came4815.06 forward,4815.31 and4815.94 I4816.06 want4816.19 you4816.43 to4816.59 know4816.74 that4816.9 we've4816.98 heard4817.15 what4817.47 you4817.63 had4817.78 to4817.94 say,4818.02 and4819.15 we'll4821.39 try4821.63 to4821.78 address4821.94 the4822.27 concerns4822.35 you've4822.74 expressed.4822.98
4823.55 M4823.78 SULLIVAN4823.78 -4823.78 Thank4823.78 you.4824.02
4824.98 FELTNER4824.98 -4824.98 What4824.98 are4825.14 the4825.3 next4825.46 steps,4825.78 or4826.1 when's4826.34 the4826.66 next4826.74 meeting?4827.06
4828.42 MORRIS4828.42 -4828.42 Well,4828.42 we4828.58 don't4828.66 know4828.9 that4829.14 yet.4829.3 This4829.54 was4829.7 the4829.86 meeting4829.94 that4830.26 was4831.3 necessary4831.54 for4832.1 us4832.26 to4832.34 have.4832.42 But4832.82 we4833.7 obviously4833.94 have4834.42 to4834.66 take4834.74 into4834.98 account4835.22 what4835.46 you4835.62 said.4835.86 We're4836.1 not4836.26 gonna4836.66 turn4836.9 around4837.06 and4837.3 go4837.46 to4837.62 the4837.7 next4837.78 step4838.1 without4838.26 having4838.58 some4839.6 careful4839.84 consultation4842.07 amongst4842.8 ourselves4843.11 about4843.52 how4843.76 we're4844.48 going4844.56 to4844.8 address4844.88 these4845.19 concerns.4845.35 From4846.31 the4846.56 very4846.64 beginning,4846.95 we're4847.35 talking4847.52 about4847.84 trees4848.31 and4848.4 at4848.4 the4848.4 very4848.48 end,4848.72 talking4848.95 about4849.27 the4849.44 size4849.6 of4849.84 building4849.99 itself.4850.4
4851.99 SCHREIBER4851.99 -4851.99 And4851.99 just4852.16 to4852.48 add4853.11 to4853.27 that,4853.35 just4853.6 to4853.76 be4853.91 clear,4854.07 as4854.56 far4854.72 as4854.95 process4855.49 goes,4855.89 the4856.45 next4856.69 public4857.41 step4858.13 in4858.37 the4858.53 process4858.69 would4859.01 be4859.17 an4860.25 advisory4861.01 planning4861.73 board4862.05 hearing4862.45 for4864.45 the4864.69 public4864.77 process.4865.57 They4866.93 still4867.33 have4867.65 to4868.21 do4868.37 a4868.53 city4869.66 review4869.98 of4871.34 the4871.49 plans4871.74 that4872.94 have4873.1 not4873.26 been4873.41 submitted4873.57 yet.4874.06 Then4874.45 we4874.77 go4874.85 to4875.02 the4875.1 planning4875.18 board,4875.41 and4875.57 then4875.74 after4875.98 that,4876.22 there'll4876.45 be4876.77 a4876.85 final4876.94 hearing.4877.26 So4877.81 this4878.14 one4878.3 has4878.53 three4879.18 separate4879.41 official4881.26 hearings4882.29 to4882.29 go4882.53 through4882.61 a4882.85 process4883.01 before4883.73 the4884.13 zoning4884.21 board.4884.53 And4885.57 if4885.81 there4885.89 are4886.01 changes4886.13 at4886.53 that4886.69 point,4886.85 then4887.17 we4887.41 still4887.89 need4888.13 to4888.37 go4888.45 back4888.61 to4888.85 the4889.57 historic4889.65 district4890.21 commission4890.69 for4891.73 any4891.97 exterior4892.37 changes.4892.77
4893.97 M4893.97 SULLIVAN4893.97 -4893.97 And4893.97 when4894.29 where4894.61 do4894.85 we4895.01 find4895.25 out4895.49 information4895.65 for4896.21 the4896.37 next4896.53 meeting?4896.77
4897.7 SCHREIBER4897.7 -4897.7 Oh,4897.7 it'll4897.78 be4898.02 posted4898.19 on4898.59 the4898.9 city's,4899.06 calendar.4900.1 And4900.59 since4900.9 the4901.63 next4901.78 one4902.02 will4902.19 be4902.34 a4902.59 planning4902.66 board4902.9 meeting,4904.43 it'll4904.59 be4904.59 on4904.74 the4904.9 website4905.47 and4906.19 on4906.82 the4906.98 calendar4907.63 on4908.19 the4908.27 website4908.43 for4909.7 the4909.86 planning4910.02 board.4910.43
4911.07 M4911.07 SULLIVAN4911.07 -4911.07 Okay.4911.07 So4911.31 is4911.39 that4911.63 next4911.87 month?4912.11
4913.39 SCHREIBER4913.39 -4913.39 No.4914.27 That's4914.67 what4914.67 he4914.91 was4914.99 saying.4915.15 I4915.39 just4915.55 wanted4915.71 to4915.83 clarify.4915.95 The4916.59 next4916.75 step4916.99 would4917.23 be4917.39 that.4917.47 But4917.71 they4918.11 first4918.27 have4918.51 to4918.67 submit.4918.83
4919.31 M4919.31 SULLIVAN4919.31 -4919.31 Oh,4919.31 so4919.55 they4919.71 have4919.87 to,4920.11 okay.4920.51 So4920.83 it's4920.99 not4921.15 like4921.31 the4921.55 planning4921.63 board4922.03 is4922.27 meeting4922.43 and4922.75 it's4922.83 this.4923.07
4923.39 SCHREIBER4923.39 -4923.39 No.4923.39
4924.57 MORRIS4924.57 -4924.57 I4924.57 would4924.73 like4924.81 to4925.06 encourage4925.14 you.4925.45 That's4925.61 why4925.85 we4926.02 have4926.09 a4926.26 sign4926.34 in4926.57 sheet.4926.73 For4926.98 those4927.14 of4927.3 you4927.45 who4927.61 care4927.77 to4927.93 share4928.09 your4929.14 email4929.53 addresses,4929.85 if4930.49 you4930.65 should4930.9 provide4931.14 your4931.45 email4931.69 address4932.09 to4932.41 us,4932.49 then4933.14 we4933.38 will4933.53 basically4933.69 keep4934.09 you4934.34 informed4934.41 as4935.61 the4935.77 process4935.85 goes4936.34 for4936.57 the4940.23 next4951.6 meeting.4951.84 If4951.84 we4951.84 have4951.84 changes4952.09 in4952.32 the4952.48 plans,4952.8 I'd4952.97 like4952.97 to4953.13 keep4953.2 you4954.09 informed.4954.24 The4954.24 easiest4954.24 way4954.64 to4954.8 do4954.89 that4954.97 is4955.13 if4955.28 you4955.36 give4955.52 us4955.76 your4955.93 email4956.24 addresses.4956.72
4958.4 M4958.4 SULLIVAN4958.4 -4958.4 I'll4958.4 do4958.56 it4958.72 that4958.89 way.4959.05
4960.56 MORRIS4960.56 -4960.56 Perfect.4960.56 Thank4961.2 you.4961.44