Watertown Community Preservation Committee
Thursday November 20, 2025
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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189 JACKIE189 WEIR189 -189 WHA189 -189 Hi,189 everyone.189.32 Good189.97 to190.13 see190.21 you190.44 all190.61 again.190.76 So,191.17 just191.81 to192.13 start,192.28 I'm192.61 Jackie192.93 Weir.193.65 I'm194.04 the194.21 executive194.37 director194.93 of195.41 the195.49 Housing195.8 Authority,196.04 and196.92 I'm197.16 joined197.32 here,197.64 by198.36 Cory199.16 Mian199.64 and199.64 Grace199.96 Dowling200.28 from200.76 POAH,201.4 our202.28 partners.202.6 So203.64 thank203.96 you204.12 for204.28 having204.44 us204.68 this204.92 evening,205.08 and205.48 thank205.72 you205.88 for205.96 your206.12 support206.36 for206.6 the206.76 Willow206.92 Park207.24 redevelopment207.56 project.208.2 We208.81 appreciate209.05 this209.44 opportunity209.76 to210.33 discuss210.56 key210.97 updates211.21 to211.93 the212.25 redevelopment212.41 sources213.53 and214 uses214.25 with214.65 you214.81 all.214.97 And215.53 we215.76 hope215.84 that216.09 you216.25 were216.41 able216.56 to216.81 review216.89 the217.21 memo217.28 that217.61 we217.76 provided,218 previewing219.13 some219.61 of219.84 those220 updates.220.25 And220.89 we'll221.21 start221.44 by221.84 reorienting222.17 the222.97 group223.05 of223.85 the224.01 project,224.25 the224.73 project224.89 team,225.21 and225.61 then225.77 we'll225.93 dive226.17 into226.49 the226.73 updates.226.97 And227.53 we'll227.77 be228.01 happy228.09 to228.41 answer228.49 any228.89 questions229.13 at229.69 the229.85 end229.93 of230.09 the230.25 presentation.230.41 For235.45 those235.61 of235.85 you235.93 who236.09 might236.25 be236.41 unfamiliar236.65 with237.21 the237.37 Willow237.61 Park237.93 redevelopment238.17 project,238.73 it's239.21 a239.29 partnership239.67 between239.99 the240.47 Watertown240.63 Housing241.19 Authority241.43 and241.91 Preservation242.15 of242.63 Affordable242.87 Housing,243.26 POAH,243.67 who244.39 are244.63 dedicated244.78 to245.26 transforming245.5 and246.94 redeveloping247.19 community247.91 enrichment.248.39
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AMY2129.11 PLOVNICK2129.11 -2129.11 CPC2129.11 MEMBER2129.11 -2129.11 Yeah.2129.11 I2129.35 had2129.67 a2129.91 question2129.99 about2130.39 the2130.71 predevelopment2130.79 funds.2131.51 Just2131.83 wanting2132.07 to2132.31 understand2132.47 that2132.95 a2133.11 little2133.19 bit2133.35 better.2133.59 Is2134.15 there2134.39 a2134.63 specific2134.87 amount2135.35 that2135.67 you2135.83 would2135.99 be2136.23 looking2136.71 for2137.11 for2137.35 that?2137.51 And,2137.99 also,2138.31 you2138.87 know,2139.03 what2139.19 would2139.35 you2139.59 be2139.83 using2139.99 it2140.23 for,2140.39 and2140.63 sort2140.79 of2140.95 what2141.11 are2141.27 the2141.43 benefits2141.83 of2142.23 the2142.31 project2142.39 and2142.71 also,2142.95 like,2143.11 potential2143.35 risks2143.95 of2144.11 that.2144.28
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2434.56 MATTHEW2434.56 WALTER2434.56 -2434.56 CPC2434.56 MEMBER2434.56 -2434.56 If2434.56 this2435.12 money2435.28 gets2435.6 approved,2435.84 can2438.08 you2438.4 talk2438.64 about2438.88 possible2439.6 scenarios2440.16 where2440.72 you2440.96 can2442.08 envision2442.32 being2442.8 back2443.2 in2443.68 front2443.84 of2444.08 us2444.24 asking2445.2 for2445.68 more2445.92 money?2446.16
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2546.06 HANDY2546.06 -2546.06 You2546.06 know,2546.22 I'm2546.86 not2547.1 sure2547.34 if2547.66 you2547.82 completely2548.06 answered2548.62 Amy's2550.62 question.2551.02 What2551.74 amount2552.22 in2553.18 predevelopment2553.34 funds2554.38 would2554.78 you2554.94 be2555.1 seeking?2555.26
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2601.89 UNIDENTIFIED2601.89 SPEAKER2601.89 -2601.89 RESIDENT2601.89 -2601.89 I2601.89 had2601.89 a2602.05 question2602.13 around2602.45 the,2603.81 you2604.13 talked2604.13 about2604.13 the2604.29 boost2604.45 in2604.85 equity2605.09 around2606.05 this2606.37 financing.2606.61 At2610.37 least2610.53 in2610.69 the2610.85 original2611.01 announcement,2611.49 total2612.61 project's2612.93 $1072616.77 million2616.77 for2616.77 1382616.77 units.2617.57 So2617.89 it's,2618.29 like,2618.69 780k2620.03 per2620.11 unit.2620.28 And2622.76 your2622.91 comment2624.43 there2624.76 of2625.16 if2625.47 you2625.64 reduce2625.88 the2626.28 cost,2626.51 you2627.71 lose2628.11 equity?2629.07
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2815.96 GALLAGHER2815.96 -2815.96 Because2815.96 the2816.2 local2816.68 preference2816.93 is2817.89 constrained2819.16 by2819.64 certain2819.89 rules,2820.28 regulations,2820.61 state2821.09 and2821.32 federal2821.48 government2821.8 rules,2822.2 and2822.53 local2822.84 preference.2823.16 So2823.48 I2824.13 think2824.2 the2824.36 keyword2824.53 on2824.93 the2825.09 document2825.16 was2825.64 we2825.8 would2825.96 strive2826.2 to2826.9 do2827.94 that.2828.1
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2901.22 BOB2901.22 DIRICO2901.22 -2901.22 CPC2901.22 MEMBER2901.22 -2901.22 Alright.2901.22 I2902.76 just2902.99 wanna2903.23 make2903.47 it2903.71 perfectly2903.88 clear2904.36 now.2904.67 On2905.39 the2905.64 predevelopment2905.88 cost,2906.84 if2907.71 you2907.88 have2908.03 to2908.28 use2908.36 any2908.59 is2909.32 that2909.47 free2910.19 application2910.51 cost2911.88 I2912.19 mean,2912.36 expenses2913.55 as2914.19 well,2914.59 or2914.76 would2914.76 it,2915.57 in2915.57 other2915.73 words,2915.89 are2915.97 we2916.21 gonna2916.37 lose2916.61 if2917.17 this2917.41 goes2917.57 belly2917.89 up,2918.13 are2918.45 we2918.53 losing2918.69 any2919.57 free2920.05 any2920.37 of2920.61 that2920.77 million2920.93 dollars2921.33 that2921.65 you2921.89 want2922.05 for2922.45 pre2922.77 development2923.01 cost?2923.57
2927.17 MIAN2927.17 -2927.17 I2927.17 would2927.33 say2927.49 you2927.65 weren't2927.81 losing2928.13 it2928.69 because2929.17 we're2929.49 gonna2929.65 get2929.97 this2930.13 project2930.29 done.2930.69 But2932.39 to2933.51 to2933.82 your2933.91 point,2934.55 yes,2935.43 I2935.66 think,2935.82 it2937.26 would2937.43 have2937.59 to2937.82 be2937.91 out2938.07 there2938.22 longer2938.47 if2939.43 we2939.66 do2939.91 not2940.07 get2940.3 the2940.7 funding2940.95 this2941.91 time.2942.14
2943.26 DIRICO2943.26 -2943.26 Okay.2943.26 Alright.2944.47 That's2945.15 clear.2945.47 Thank2945.71 you.2946.03
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
GALLAGHER2954.67 -2954.67 Christine,2954.67 are2955.23 you2955.31 happy2955.47 with2955.71 the2955.87 way2956.03 things2956.19 are2956.43 going2956.51 so2956.83 far?2956.99
2958.91 ROGERS2958.91 -2958.91 Yeah.2958.91 I2959.14 mean,2959.22 I2959.3 think2959.55 sort2959.78 of2960.03 the2960.11 caution2960.18 on2960.66 the2960.82 predevelopment2960.98 financing2961.78 is2962.43 that,2962.74 you2962.98 know,2963.22 a2963.46 developer2963.63 is2964.18 always2964.34 taking2964.82 risks2965.39 that2965.78 this2966.18 project2966.43 will2966.91 go2967.14 forward.2967.39 And2968.26 I2968.51 think,2968.59 you2968.82 know,2968.98 with2969.22 CPA2969.46 funding2969.86 going2970.26 in2970.59 predevelopment,2970.82 you2971.91 are2972.07 now2972.31 sort2972.55 of2972.79 joining,2972.95 the2974.47 developer2974.71 in2975.27 that2975.43 risk2975.67 that2976.07 the2976.31 project2976.55 will2976.95 move2977.11 forward.2977.35
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
2983.59 DUFF2983.59 -2983.59 I2983.59 can't2984.01 I2984.24 hate2984.32 I2984.8 keep2984.97 bringing2985.36 I2985.84 hear2986.09 it2986.48 coming,2986.57 but,2986.97 if2987.45 it2987.61 doesn't2987.76 go2988.09 through2988.32 if2988.57 it2988.8 doesn't2988.89 go2989.28 through,2989.53 if2990.97 it2991.2 doesn't2991.36 go2991.68 through,2991.93 what2992.24 happens2992.41 to2992.8 the2993.05 house2993.2 next2993.53 to2993.76 1032994.64 Nichols?2995.36
2995.36 MIAN2995.36 -2995.36 I2995.36 have2995.45 to2995.68 buy2996.57 it.2996.72 I'll3000.71 be3000.87 looking3001.03 for3001.35 tenants.3001.59
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3006.39 HAMMETT3006.39 -3006.39 Sorry.3006.39 I3006.55 have3006.71 one3006.95 more3007.19 question.3007.35 And3009.19 I3009.43 know3009.59 this3009.75 is3009.99 subjective,3012.46 but3013.26 in3013.59 your3013.74 opinion,3013.98 does3015.03 us3016.14 awarding3016.39 predevelopment3018.46 money3019.18 make3019.82 the3020.14 application3020.22 any3020.94 stronger3021.18 in3021.51 the3021.66 eyes3021.74 of3021.98 the3022.07 state?3022.22
3024.07 mian3024.07 -3024.07 No.3024.07
3026.69 HAMMETT3026.69 -3026.69 What3026.69 about3026.93 the3029.97 additional3030.21 if3030.93
3031.65 MIAN3031.65 -3031.65 Yes.3031.65
3032.37 HAMMETT3032.37 -3032.37 The3032.37 additional3032.53 funding,3032.93 yes,3033.49 the3033.89 predevelopment,3034.05 no.3036.21
3036.21 MIAN3036.21 -3036.21 They3036.21 won't3036.37 know3036.69 that3037.01 you've3037.17 awarded3037.49 predevelopment.3037.89 I3039.11 could3039.34 spell3039.59 that3039.91 out3040.14 for3040.3 them,3040.39 but3040.63 it's3040.78 not3040.95 a3041.07 question3041.18 they3041.59 usually3041.82 dig3043.43 into.3043.59 Would3046.07 you3046.3 say3046.47 that's3046.63 true,3046.86 Christine?3047.11
3049.03 ROGERS3049.03 -3049.03 Yeah.3049.03 I3049.34 mean,3049.51 I3049.66 think3049.74 that3050.07 you're3050.75 gonna3050.91 have3051.15 to3051.31 explain,3051.39 like,3051.71 you3051.87 know,3052.11 we3052.19 have3052.35 a3052.51 gap.3052.67 We've3052.91 tried3053.15 to3053.39 close3053.47 the3053.71 gap.3053.87 We've3054.11 you3054.43 know,3054.51 these3054.75 are3054.91 the3055.15 seven3055.39 sources3055.71 that3056.11 we've3056.27 gone3056.51 to3056.75 to3056.99 try3057.07 to3057.31 close3057.39 the3057.63 gap.3057.71 These3058.43 are3058.59 the3058.75 sources3058.91 that3059.31 have3059.39 said3059.55 yes3059.79 to3060.03 help3060.19 us3060.43 try3060.59 to3060.75 close3060.83 the3061.15 gap,3061.23 and3061.39 so3061.71 that3061.87 will3062.03 be3062.19 really3062.43 sort3062.99 of3063.07 positive3063.23 story.3063.55 I3065.07 don't3065.23 think3065.39 they3065.55 get3065.64 involved3065.8 too3066.03 much3066.11 in3066.28 predevelopment3066.43 because3066.99 they3067.39 don't3067.55 have3067.8 anything3067.95 at3068.28 risk3068.43 until3068.76 you3069.23 get3069.39 to3069.64 the3069.8 closing3070.03 table.3070.43
3072.68 MIAN3072.68 -3072.68 I3072.68 just3073.07 don't3073.23 think3073.39 they3073.64 think3073.8 about3074.11 that.3074.43 And3076.16 that's3076.32 not3076.56 to3076.8 say3076.96 they,3077.2 I3077.52 mean,3077.6 you3077.84 know,3078 as3078.8 I3079.28 said,3079.36 the3079.6 trust3079.76 has3080 made3080.56 their3080.8 funds3081.6 available.3081.84 The3083.36 state3084 does3084.4 see3084.72 that.3084.96 They3085.36 see3085.6 trusts3086.08 and3086.4 CPCs3086.64 make3087.2 their3087.36 funds3087.52 available.3087.76 But3088.72 I3088.88 think3088.96 it's3089.2 really3089.36 the3089.76 scale3091.11 of3091.43 the3091.66 commitment3091.74 that3092.31 impresses3093.03 them.3093.51 That's3096.14 what3096.39 I3096.55 would3096.63 say.3096.79
3097.03 HAMMETT3097.03 -3097.03 Okay.3097.03 Because3097.27 it3097.51 does3097.66 feel,3097.91 I3098.14 mean,3098.22 just3098.39 what3098.63 we3098.79 were3098.86 saying,3099.11 it3099.34 does3099.51 feel3099.83 different3100.22 to3100.7 have3100.86 spent3101.11 like,3101.83 the3101.99 city3102.14 to3102.47 have3102.55 spent3102.79 money3103.11 at3103.59 risk3103.74 versus3104.22 the3105.47 city3105.63 to3105.87 have3106.03 spent3106.27 money3106.51 when3106.83 everybody3107.07 else3107.31 has3108.59 committed3108.91 the3109.39 money3109.55 as3109.87 well.3109.95 I3111.31 would3111.47 hope3111.63 that3111.87 that3112.03 would3112.19 make3112.43 the3112.75 case3112.91 stronger,3113.07 but3113.47 maybe3113.63 if3113.95 they3114.11 don't3114.19 pay3114.43 attention3114.59 to3114.91 that.3115.15 But,3115.87 you3116.11 know,3116.27 it3116.51 is3116.67 like3116.91 the3117.15 city3117.55 itself3117.87 is3118.35 taking3118.51 a3118.83 risk3118.91 on3119.41 the3119.57 project.3119.64
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3146.58 DUFF3146.58 -3146.58 Yes.3146.58 I'd3147.16 like3147.41 to3147.57 make3147.8 a3147.97 motion3148.13 that3148.53 we3148.77 partnership3149.89 POAH3151.32 and3151.72 the3151.97 Watertown3152.13 Housing3152.68 Authority,3153.09 the3154.13 request3154.36 that3155.24 they3155.49 come3155.64 before3155.89 us3156.29 tonight3156.45 of3156.93 $23157.09 million.3159.49
3159.49 SPEAKER13159.49 -3159.49 Motion's3159.49 been3159.89 made.3160.05 Is3160.2 there3160.29 a3160.53 second?3160.61
3161.27 HAMMETT3161.27 -3161.27 Wait.3161.27 What3161.43 about3161.59 the3161.91 predevelopment?3162.07
3164.15 DUFF3164.15 -3164.15 The3164.15 what?3164.31
3164.55 HAMMETT3164.55 -3164.55 Do3165.27 you3165.35 wanna3165.43 put3165.67 in3165.75 the3165.83 predevelopment?3165.99
3167.27 HANDY3167.27 -3167.27 We3167.27 can3167.91 put3168.15 conditions3168.63 on3169.19 the3169.35 request3169.43 or3170.47 the3171.43 award,3171.59 recommendation3172.79 to3173.59 award3173.75 $23174.15 million3175.11 with3175.11 conditions.3176.88
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3183.76 HAMMETT3183.76 -3183.76 I'd3183.76 make3183.99 the3184.16 condition3184.32 that3184.72 we3184.88 make3184.95 $13185.52 million3186.24 available3186.24 as3186.72 predevelopment3187.6 money.3188.24
3189.24 DUFF3189.24 -3189.24 That's3189.24 in3189.4 addition3189.72 to3190.04 the3190.2 23190.44
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3236.45 GALLAGHER3236.45 -3236.45 Okay.3236.93 We're3237.26 gonna3237.34 hold3237.66 on3237.82 to3237.97 that3238.05 motion,3238.21 but3238.53 we're3238.7 gonna3238.78 make3239.41 sure3239.57 we3239.73 get3239.89 the3240.05 wording3240.14 right3240.45 on3240.61 the3240.78 condition.3240.93
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3247.59 O'CONNELL3247.59 -3247.59 We3247.59 could3247.83 do3248.07 two3248.39 different3248.55 motions3249.99 if3250.39 we3250.55 need3250.71 to3250.95 talk3251.03 about3251.35 how3252.55 that3252.87 23253.19 million3255.51 would3255.51 be3255.67 spent3256.87 or3257.27 conditions3257.51 on3258.71 it.3258.87
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
3355.05 GALLAGHER3355.05 -3355.05 Okay.3355.05 So3355.45 the3356.17 motion3356.33 do3356.73 we3356.81 have3356.97 clarity3357.13 on3357.45 the3357.61 motion,3357.77 Lanae?3358.09
SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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