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the332.21 back332.46 is332.86 about333.42 4333.74 feet333.98 under334.46 the334.78 ground.334.94 So335.81 we336.06 have336.21 entrance336.54 to338.5 the338.58 unit338.74 and339.14 also339.38 exit,339.86 which340.26 is340.42 goes340.66 to340.9 the341.06 second341.54 floor341.86 on341.86 the342.02 back.342.1 Also,344.18 there344.66 is344.9 a346.42 exit346.58 through346.98 the347.3 garage.347.46 This349.54 is349.7 side349.86 by350.1 side350.26 of350.5 the350.58 garage.350.74 351.7 COHEN351.7 -351.7 Is351.7 this,352.34 so353.83 this354.71 photo354.95 over356.07 here,356.24 I'm356.63 looking356.8 at357.12 the357.75 garage357.92 door358.39 that's358.63 shown358.88 on359.6 the359.75 plan?360 360.48 SAFARI360.48 -360.48 Yes.360.48 360.8 COHEN360.8 -360.8 Is360.8 that360.95 right?361.12 Okay.361.36 I'm361.83 not363.75 seeing364 the364.24 door,364.31 but364.56 maybe364.71 it's364.95 behind365.19 that365.44 trash365.68 toter.366 I'm366.56 not366.63 sure.366.8 But367.04 it367.36 it367.7 is367.86 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foot522.14 high522.38 window.522.55 523.26 HAMMETT523.26 -523.26 Okay.523.26 Yeah.525.02 This525.43 seems525.67 straightforward527.76 to528.24 me528.4 in528.56 just528.72 the529.04 kind529.2 of529.36 space529.52 we've529.84 been530.24 hoping530.56 people530.88 would531.12 convert531.36 to531.68 ADU,532.56 so.536.16 536.16 WHITNEY536.16 -536.16 I536.16 just536.32 have536.56 one536.8 question,537.04 and537.44 it537.6 may537.68 be537.92 for538.08 our538.24 architect538.32 colleagues538.8 as539.28 well.539.44 But539.6 it's540.56 a540.72 basement,540.8 so541.2 it's541.44 a541.52 concrete541.68 floor.542.17 How542.5 does542.65 the542.74 floor542.89 get543.13 insulated?543.38 544.17 SAFARI544.17 -544.17 How544.17 do544.41 the544.5 floors544.58 get544.82 insulated?544.98 545.38 WHITNEY545.38 -545.38 When545.38 the545.93 new546.01 unit546.25 gets546.5 put546.65 in,546.82 is547.05 there547.21 a547.38 raised548.5 floor548.82 put549.05 in549.21 to549.38 insulate549.7 from550.1 the550.25 550.53 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a16517.7 volunteer16517.78 board16518.1 just16518.34 like16518.58 every16518.74 other16518.98 board.16519.22 So,16519.46 you16519.7 know,16519.86 they16520.1 provided16520.26 their16520.66 comments,16520.82 and16522.48 but16523.12 it’s16523.52 not,16524.4 they're16524.4 not16524.64 the16524.88 architect16525.04 designing16525.52 it.16526.24 And16526.88 the16527.12 project16527.6 team16528 with16528.8 the16529.04 push16529.12 and16529.36 pull.16529.52 16534.89 BUCK16534.89 -16534.89 Okay.16534.89 Well,16535.37 if16535.61 we've16535.85 all16536.09 agreed16536.33 to16536.81 continue,16537.05 we'll16539.37 make16539.45 a16539.69 motion,16539.77 continue16540.89 this16541.45 with16541.69 the16541.85 recommendations.16542.01 16544.17 SCHREIBER16544.17 -16544.17 Can16544.65 you16544.81 state,16544.97 like,16545.29 the16545.45 date16546.33 of16546.65 the16546.81 next16546.97 meeting?16547.21

16547.45 SPEAKER616547.45 -16547.45 What16547.45 is16547.61 the16547.77 date?16547.85

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16554.9 SCHREIBER16554.9 -16554.9 January16554.9 1416555.51 is16556.18 the16556.34 second16556.5 Wednesday,16559.86 so16560.1 it16560.1 would16560.26 be16560.42 continued16560.82 to16561.3 January16562.18 14,16562.67 the16564.26 planning16564.34 board16564.74 meeting.16565.14 16566.18 WHITNEY-16566.18 And16566.18 I'll16566.42 give16566.66 you16566.82 and16567.02 Matthew,16567.46 I'll16567.78 give16567.94 you16568.1 this16568.26 list16570.74 and16570.82 then16570.82 you16570.82 guys16570.82 can16571.06 incorporate16571.7 that16572.1 in16572.34 the16572.5 staff16572.66 report16572.9 or16573.22 whatever,16573.46 and16574.82 give16575.06 that16575.22 to16575.38 the16575.46 applicant16575.62 as16575.94 well.16576.1 So,16576.42 alright,16576.86 I'll16577.1 make16577.26 a16577.5 motion16577.66 that16577.98 we16579.18 continue16579.34 the16579.74 case16579.9 of16580.14 7216580.3 Mount16581.9 Auburn16582.22 Street16582.62 to16583.66 January16584.06 14,16586.94 202616586.94 at16586.94 7PM16587.26 here16588.3 in16589.73 City16589.97 Council16590.29 Chambers.16590.61 16592.29 COHEN16592.29 -16592.29 I'll16592.29 second16592.45 the16592.77 motion.16592.85

16593.81 SPEAKER816593.81 -16593.81 All16593.81 in16594.05 favor?16594.29 Aye.16595.73 Aye.16596.13

16596.85 SPEAKER316596.85 -16596.85 Thank16596.85 you16597.09 for16597.25 your16597.41 time.16597.65 Thank16597.97 you.16598.13 As16598.37 always.16598.53

16600.29 SPEAKER616600.29 -16600.29 Thank16600.29 you16600.69 all16600.85 for16601.09 staying.16601.89 Staying.16602.29

16602.69 SPEAKER416602.69 -16602.69 Yeah.16602.69 Are16604.22 we16604.3 adjourned?16604.54

16607.58 SPEAKER816607.58 -16607.58 Adjourned.16607.58