Watertown Committee on Rules and Ordinances
Monday March 16, 2026
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
NICOLE14.89 GARDNER14.89 -14.89 RULES14.89 &14.89 ORDINANCES14.89 COMMITTEE14.89 CHAIR14.89 -14.89 So14.89 I'm15.13 going15.29 to15.62 call15.86 this15.94 meeting16.1 to16.41 order.16.66 This16.98 is17.21 a17.3 meeting17.38 of17.61 the17.77 rules17.94 and18.18 ordinances18.41 committees.19.14 It's20.34 March21.05 16.21.95 I'm23.45 the23.61 full23.86 Nicole24.02 Gardner,24.41 chair.24.41 To24.98 my25.14 right26.02 is26.26 John.26.41 He's37.83 the37.99 secretary,38.23 and38.71 to38.79 my38.95 left39.19 is39.35 Lisa39.51 Feltner,39.83 who's40.31 the40.47 vice40.8 chair.41.2 And41.45 we're41.68 here42 for42.41 two42.56 purposes.42.8 One43.28 is43.52 to43.68 interview43.84 John44.24 Labadini44.48 for45.13 reappointment45.45 to46 the46.09 licensing46.24 board.46.8 And47.36 the47.52 second47.68 item48 on48.24 our48.41 agenda48.56 is49.05 to49.28 continue49.6 discussion50.09 of50.56 don't52.41 skip52.64 the52.88 step53.05 ordinance.53.2 And53.84 we're54 going54.16 to54.41 start54.41 with54.64 an54.8 interview54.96 with55.28 you,55.45 John.55.68 And,57.17 I'm59.17 happy59.65 to59.97 have60.05 this60.13 be60.37 very,60.61 give61.89 and62.13 take62.29 of62.53 the62.61 conversation.62.77 I63.81 guess63.89 oh,64.13 I'll64.29 ask64.45 the64.69 first64.77 question65.01 just65.33 to65.57 get65.65 us65.81 started.65.97 Why66.77 do67.17 you67.33 serve,67.49 and67.81 why68.05 do68.21 you68.29 want68.45 to68.69 continue68.69 serving69.01 on69.33 the69.49 licensing69.65 board?70.21 72.16 JOHN72.16 LABADINI72.16 -72.16 LICENSING72.16 BOARD72.16 INTERVIEWEE72.16 -72.16 I72.16 said72.31 this72.47 in72.56 my72.8 first72.95 interview.73.27 My74.63 dad,74.8 and75.91 I76.08 had76.31 a77.03 restaurant77.27 for77.75 quite77.99 some78.23 time78.47 on79.11 Chestnut79.35 Street79.83 in80.23 Beacon80.39 Hill,80.72 and81.52 it82.16 was82.23 off82.47 Charles.82.72 It83.27 was83.44 a83.59 side83.83 street,84.16 and86.23 there86.47 were86.63 so86.88 many87.03 things88.53 besides89.25 the89.65 food89.81 that90.05 could90.29 go90.45 wrong90.61 from91.65 the91.81 time91.89 you92.13 opened92.21 the92.45 doors.92.61 Double93.41 parked93.73 cars,94.05 people95.01 open95.41 you95.73 know?95.81 So.96.69 96.85 JOHN96.85 GANNON96.85 -96.85 RULES96.85 &96.85 ORDINANCES96.85 COMMITTEE96.85 SECRETARY96.85 -96.85 So96.85 that's96.85 the97.09 space97.25 for97.49 7597.73 Chestnut98.21 is?98.69 99.01 LABADINI99.01 -99.01 Yeah.99.01 99.33 GANNON99.33 -99.33 Yep.99.33 99.97 LABADINI99.97 -99.97 Yes.99.97 They've100.45 been100.69 there.100.85 Anyway,101.41 I104.55 had104.86 to105.1 have105.91 eyes106.22 and106.47 ears106.63 on107.02 everything.107.19 And,108.06 you109.67 know,109.91 there110.06 were110.31 times110.47 when110.78 somebody111.5 would111.91 come112.14 in.112.31 We112.47 didn't112.63 allow112.86 hats.113.19 And,114.14 I115.19 asked115.27 the115.5 gentleman115.66 to116.06 remove116.22 his116.63 cap,116.86 and117.1 that117.71 turned117.87 into118.11 the118.35 whole118.51 thing.118.67 But,118.99 anyway,119.31 we've119.63 been119.87 there119.87 for120.11 almost120.35 15120.83 years.121.23 We123.31 never123.55 had123.79 a123.95 violation130.97 and132.09 the132.41 police132.72 were133.04 never133.21 called.133.53 We134.56 had134.72 to134.88 call134.97 an135.21 ambulance135.37 once.135.84 We136.16 thought136.32 someone136.49 was136.81 having136.88 a137.21 heart137.28 attack,137.44 but138.49 it138.97 was,139.04 it141.21 was141.37 not141.6 without141.93 paying143.08 attention.143.4 So144.36 I145.24 moved145.48 back145.72 here,145.96 after147.56 being147.8 gone148.04 20148.28 years.148.6 And149.8 if150.68 you150.92 love151.08 Watertown,151.32 Watertown151.88 will152.28 love152.44 you152.6 back.152.84 And,153.4 you154.44 know,154.6 I154.76 got154.92 invited155.16 onto155.48 the155.72 board155.88 of156.12 the156.2 club.156.36 And157.16 I158.25 had158.34 been158.66 before158.81 the160.01 board160.09 a161.78 couple161.94 of162.18 times162.25 for162.57 the162.74 boys162.9 and163.14 girls163.29 club,163.53 and163.85 I164.5 spoke164.74 on165.06 behalf165.29 of165.69 a166.81 bar167.06 that167.29 wanted167.46 to167.69 stay167.85 open168.01 later168.34 or168.66 something.168.81 I169.06 can't169.22 remember.169.46 So170.25 he176.49 was176.65 the176.89 leader177.13 of177.53 the177.69 state177.93 Republican178.25 party.178.81 180.25 GANNON180.25 -180.25 Steve?180.25 180.89 LABADINI180.89 -180.89 Steve?180.89 Edwards.181.53 So182.25 Steve182.41 was183.69 retiring184.17 or184.97 resigning185.21 from185.61 the185.77 board.185.93 186.33 GARDNER186.33 -186.33 Oh,186.33 he186.49 was186.57 a186.73 Watertown186.81 resident187.29 on187.77 the187.93 board?188.01 188.56 GANNON188.56 -188.56 I've188.56 been188.72 on188.88 the188.96 school189.12 committee189.44 before,189.68 so190 he190.24 was190.31 on190.4 the190.52 lessons190.64 on190.96 the191.12 board.191.28 191.68 LABADINI191.68 -191.68 Yeah.191.68 And,192.47 he193.19 was193.36 moving193.51 west195.12 somewhere.195.51 So,196.47 I199.68 interviewed199.92 with,200.56 I203.01 don't203.81 remember,204.05 but204.37 it204.61 ended204.77 with205.33 Mike205.57 Driscoll.205.89 And207.73 we207.97 went208.13 over208.29 some208.61 basic209.25 things.209.65 Give211.89 me212.13 an212.29 example212.45 of212.85 when213.01 you213.17 recuse213.57 yourself,213.97 and214.37 I214.53 swapped214.61 the215.01 Boys215.17 and215.41 Girls215.57 Club.215.89 And216.21 the219.81 interview220.09 seemed220.49 to222.32 be222.72 testing223.04 whether223.44 I224.56 could224.65 bring224.88 the225.13 hammer225.21 down225.6 because225.84 I've226.09 been226.25 a226.41 borrower.226.56 And,227.37 I228.41 can228.56 and228.81 I228.97 have.229.13 So229.84 I've231.13 done231.37 it231.53 before.231.69 The232.88 city232.96 needs233.28 somebody.233.76 It's234.24 once234.48 a234.72 month,234.96 and235.52 I236.64 think236.72 I'm236.96 helping.237.12 240.24 GANNON240.24 -240.24 Yeah.240.24 And240.56 your240.72 family241.36 has241.76 a242 background242.08 in242.56 restaurant242.96 service243.44 even243.92 before244.24 the245.04 Chestnut245.21 Tree245.56 location.245.93 So.246.64 247.04 LABADINI247.04 -247.04 Yes,247.04 that's247.21 how247.21 I247.36 got247.44 through.247.6 Yeah.248.08 249.04 GANNON249.04 -249.04 And249.04 so249.53 you've249.76 got,249.93 you251.28 know,251.53 generational,252.08 experience253.53 as254 well.254.16 So254.49 how255.04 has255.21 that255.44 helped255.69 you256 well,256.64 when256.96 you257.13 said,257.29 how257.52 has257.6 that257.76 helped257.93 you258.17 with258.32 Watertown258.49 establishments259.5 that260.22 come260.3 before260.46 the260.78 commission?260.94 Or262.02 the262.38 commission?262.46 263.98 LABADINI263.98 -263.98 My263.98 best264.14 example264.54 and265.82 this266.06 happens266.3 a266.86 lot.267.02 And268.46 I'm268.62 not,268.86 we're269.26 just269.5 talking269.66 about269.98 policy.270.22 I'm271.34 not271.58 a271.74 policy271.9 guy.272.38 I273.58 don't273.75 know274.63 how274.87 we275.11 could275.26 ever275.5 do275.75 this,275.9 but276.55 I277.9 always278.06 feel279.02 bad279.82 when281.5 a282.06 bar282.31 owner,282.55 especially282.94 if283.43 he's283.5 a284.38 suspect284.55 bar285.58 or285.82 restaurant285.9 owner,286.31 and287.9 we288.06 suspend288.14 that.288.22 And289.82 when292.06 we292.22 suspend292.46 them,292.94 I294.94 feel295.1 bad295.34 for295.58 the295.74 immigrant295.82 dishwasher296.22 that296.78 lost296.94 the297.18 day's297.26 pay.297.58 He298.06 didn't298.22 do298.46 anything.298.62 You300.03 know,300.12 a301 couple301 of301.39 dishwashers,301.56 a302.03 couple302.03 of302.35 line302.44 cooks,302.68 some303 servers.303.31 So304.6 I've304.83 brought305.39 it305.56 up305.71 before.305.88 Could306.27 we306.44 somehow307.79 make308.19 it308.44 punitive,309.15 you309.71 know,309.88 you310.44 take310.68 in310.83 $10311.24 on311.79 a311.95 Friday,312.03 we312.51 ding312.75 them313 1000313.24 dollars,313.71 or315.59 give315.75 me315.91 the315.99 option.316.23 I316.63 don't317.11 know317.35 the317.51 answer.317.67 I317.99 do318.15 know318.31 it's318.87 something319.11 that319.83 I'd321.11 prefer321.27 was321.59 done321.83 a321.99 different322.15 way.322.47 Was323.67 that323.91 the324.07 question?324.15 327.75 GANNON327.75 -327.75 Just327.75 a328.07 question328.07 about328.39 how328.63 your328.95 background329.67 will331.24 help331.56 you?332.19 332.68 LABADINI332.68 -332.68 Apart333.88 from334.12 being334.27 around334.51 and335.4 working335.56 in335.88 a336.04 kitchen,336.51 you336.68 know336.75 you.337.07 337.24 GANNON337.24 -337.24 You337.24 see337.24 it337.4 broader337.56 than337.96 just338.27 a338.6 suspension338.75 or339.31 not339.56 a339.71 suspension.339.8 340.27 LABADINI340.27 -340.27 You340.27 see,340.44 you340.92 know,341.07 somebody341.88 would342.68 be342.92 a343.07 dishwasher343.15 and343.71 five343.88 years344.04 later,344.36 they'd345.14 be345.3 away,345.46 you346.02 know,346.06 as346.1 they346.26 learned346.5 the346.82 language346.9 and347.38 became347.62 a347.94 busboy.348.02 So351.62 I351.86 just352.42 enjoy353.46 it353.78 and354.74 I354.98 like355.14 to355.3 listen355.46 to356.02 what's356.9 going357.22 on.357.54 Forever359.37 curious359.69 about361.44 restaurants362.16 and362.72 how362.81 they363.04 do,363.2 and,363.37 I'm364.72 not364.88 curious365.13 enough365.52 to365.76 start366 working366.25 nights366.56 and366.72 weekends366.88 again.367.28 I367.52 don't367.69 know.368.08 369.13 GARDNER369.13 -369.13 But369.13 it’s369.44 a369.44 good369.6 example369.76 of370.16 how370.25 your370.56 work371.6 background371.84 and372.4 your372.56 family's,372.81 you373.67 know,373.83 long374.71 time375.11 in375.43 the375.51 in375.75 the375.91 in376.55 restauranting376.87 or377.75 if377.99 that's378.07 a378.31 verb,378.39 gives379.59 you379.83 a,379.99 you380.07 know,380.23 gives380.39 you380.63 an380.95 up381.03 close381.19 and381.51 a381.75 personal381.83 understanding382.47 of382.95 the383.11 impact383.27 of383.59 what383.75 happens383.91 there.384.39 That's384.95 helpful.385.19 385.75 LABADINI385.75 -385.75 Yes.385.75 386.4 GANNON386.4 -386.4 And386.4 how386.56 do386.65 you386.73 advise386.97 new387.44 restaurant387.69 owners388 coming388.32 into388.56 Watertown389.13 either389.53 on390 the390.17 board391.21 or392.4 just392.49 in392.65 general?392.88 395.76 LABADINI395.76 -395.76 We're395.76 not396 necessarily396.32 supposed399.03 to399.27 give399.43 advice,399.75 I400.47 guess,400.55 if400.79 it401.03 comes401.11 up401.35 in401.51 the401.67 questioning401.75 or402.47 somehow.402.79 But403.11 I404.15 wish404.31 they404.63 had,404.79 you405.03 know,405.19 at405.83 the405.99 end,406.15 words407.75 of408.07 wisdom408.15 from408.63 the408.87 count408.95 from409.27 our409.91 board.410.15 You412.21 know,413.18 it's415.18 not415.57 complicated.416.13 If417.33 you417.74 buy417.89 a418.21 bar418.29 or418.62 a418.94 restaurant,419.01 you420.21 should420.38 know420.54 the420.77 rules420.94 before421.18 you421.5 open421.57 the421.89 door.422.06 And,422.62 you423.65 know,423.74 overcrowding424.21 the424.85 place424.94 is425.57 not425.81 worth425.98 it426.21 if426.45 you426.54 have426.62 to426.77 close427.43 for427.63 three427.83 days.430.23 There430.79 was431.03 an432.55 issue432.71 at433.59 Oakley.433.83 They435.11 wanted435.27 to435.67 put435.83 a437.99 beer438.07 cart438.39 on438.71 the438.95 golf439.11 course,439.43 and440.63 they442.24 also442.48 wanted442.71 to443.04 put443.12 two443.44 bathrooms443.68 out444.15 there444.39 somewhere.444.63 And446.15 the446.88 community446.95 came447.44 out447.68 of448.56 the448.63 woodwork448.8 and449.75 rightfully450.63 so,451.19 but451.44 not452.79 so453.04 much.453.19 So453.51 I455.09 do455.33 a455.45 little455.57 homework455.81 in456.05 Woodland456.85 and457.33 Wellesley.457.41 I457.89 called458.05 all458.29 these458.45 country458.69 clubs,459.09 and460.61 they460.85 all461.01 offer461.25 beer461.49 and461.81 wine.461.89 464.37 GARDNER464.37 -464.37 On464.37 the464.53 course,465.09 I465.41 mean?465.49 465.73 LABADINI465.73 -465.73 Yeah.465.73 Not467.17 alcohol.467.41 And,468.45 I470.04 don't470.12 think470.36 it's470.6 going470.75 to471.07 change471.07 whether471.31 somebody471.56 drinks471.96 or472.19 not472.36 too472.6 much.472.75 They're473 going473.63 to473.96 they're473.96 not474.12 going474.36 to.474.68 And,475 yes,477.71 there478.19 was478.36 a478.51 gentleman478.68 from479 Oakley479.24 that480.75 wasn't480.92 pleased.481.24 But483.4 that's483.56 about483.8 as486.17 much486.33 as,486.57 you487.13 know,487.37 I've489.77 gotten489.93 pushed490.25 back490.49 from490.73 my490.89 decision.491.05 495.21 LISA495.21 FELTNER495.21 -495.21 RULES496.09 &496.33 ORDINANCES496.33 COMMITTEE496.33 VICE496.33 CHAIR496.33 -496.33 Do496.33 you496.33 have497.16 your497.56 experience498.13 where498.13 well,498.37 you498.52 were498.69 saying498.85 I499.08 hate499.56 to499.81 have499.96 it500.29 go500.44 to500.69 automatic500.85 suspension.501.4 Are502.13 there,502.2 I504.93 don't505.08 want505.25 to505.49 say505.49 red505.72 lines,505.88 but506.2 are506.37 there506.44 certain506.6 categories507 that508.2 result509 in509.32 a509.49 one509.56 day509.81 or510.2 a510.44 three510.52 day510.85 versus511.32 you513.6 know,513.68 working514.08 with514.32 police514.48 or514.8 how514.96 it515.2 goes.515.28 I'm515.6 not515.84 aware516.08 of516.4 how516.48 that's516.64 internal.516.96 520.24 LABADINI520.24 -520.24 It's520.24 a520.4 good520.56 idea,520.8 and521.84 it's522 a522.24 bad522.4 idea.522.56 Because523.6 there528.46 was528.7 a528.94 fight529.1 in530.22 Fitsies530.38 a531.5 while531.65 back,531.89 and532.86 someone533.82 was534.22 drunk.534.46 Someone537.25 was537.74 drunk538.06 outside,538.46 and541.06 someone542.26 showed542.74 up,542.98 and543.7 there543.94 was544.1 a544.18 fight.544.42 And545.46 the545.62 police545.78 were546.1 called.546.34 And547.22 I551.54 know551.7 the551.86 people552.02 involved.552.34 It555.08 shouldn't555.24 have555.55 happened.555.71 One557.32 of557.55 the557.63 guys557.79 that558.51 was558.6 in558.75 the558.91 fight559 used559.79 to560.12 own560.2 a560.36 bar,560.51 so561.55 that562.03 kind562.43 of562.75 like,563.32 really?563.71 And,564.67 his566.21 son566.45 is566.85 a567.01 fireman,567.09 and568.21 he's568.37 in568.53 his568.69 backyard.568.85 So,569.57 anyway,569.89 I571.89 think572.05 all572.45 the572.69 so573.01 right573.41 now,573.65 if574.53 the578.13 police578.29 come578.69 and578.93 they579.09 find579.25 four579.57 violations.579.81 That's582.04 four582.28 days.582.76 The585.25 violation585.4 might586.13 be,586.37 the588.28 bartender588.52 served589.16 her589.57 too589.88 much.590.13 That's590.45 one590.68 violation.591 The592.37 patron592.52 had593.33 too593.57 much593.73 to593.96 drink.594.13 That's594.85 another595.09 violation.595.49 She598.9 repeatedly599.22 wouldn't599.7 leave600.02 when600.18 we600.42 asked600.5 her.600.74 So600.98 one602.34 incident602.58 can603.14 turn603.3 into.609.14 I'd609.14 have609.38 to609.54 look,609.7 but,610.02 and610.74 I610.9 did611.3 miss611.54 a611.7 few611.78 meetings612.02 last612.34 year.612.66 I613.75 know615.67 we've,615.91 what's618.32 the618.55 place?618.63 Clarisse,620.15 next622 to622.39 Ravello622.72 Glass.623.6 624.24 GARDNER624.24 -624.24 Oh,624.24 no.624.48 It's624.63 Connolly's.626.39 627.27 LABADINI627.27 -627.27 I627.27 think627.36 Connolly's629.37 might629.69 have629.85 been630.01 three630.17 days.630.41 And631.29 it631.53 was631.61 a631.85 woman632.01 who632.97 was633.13 a633.29 customer633.45 who634.97 called635.21 911635.53 on636.81 a636.89 regular637.05 basis637.93 who637.93 was638.09 walking638.33 home,638.65 and640.25 everybody640.41 knew.640.89 So,641.29 yeah,642.49 it642.73 can642.89 get643.53 punitive,643.61 but644.55 that's644.95 what645.19 we645.43 have.645.6 646.63 FELTNER646.63 -646.63 That's646.63 up646.63 to646.63 the646.79 police646.95 to647.36 decide.647.6 I648.55 mean,648.63 there's648.95 a649.36 list649.43 of649.75 what649.83 constitutes650.24 a650.71 violation,651.03 but651.6 the651.83 police652 department652.32 decides652.88 on653.36 at654.15 the654.39 site,654.55 or655.03 is655.27 it655.51 later655.6 they656.15 issue656.32 a656.63 report656.79 Uh-huh.657.6 Come658 out?658.24 Or.659.03 662.47 LABADINI662.47 -662.47 I662.47 believe662.47 the662.47 police663.59 person664.07 that664.39 goes664.63 there,664.87 he's666.15 taking666.47 notes666.87 and667.11 what667.27 have667.51 you667.67 or667.83 he667.91 gets668.07 in668.23 his668.39 car,668.63 and669.03 then669.19 they669.43 write669.59 a669.75 report.669.91 Okay.670.31 And670.63 then670.79 it671.03 actually671.19 they671.83 make672.07 a672.23 recommendation,672.39 and674.01 it674.17 goes674.34 to674.54 the674.74 chief.674.89 And675.93 he676.25 either676.65 signs677.38 off677.7 on677.93 it678.1 or678.17 says678.74 something679.38 differently.680.1 681.46 FELTNER681.46 -681.46 And681.46 that's681.62 before681.93 it682.58 comes682.74 to683.05 the683.13 licensing683.29 board,683.86 what684.17 the684.34 chief's684.5 recommendation685.22 is?685.93 686.34 LABADINI686.34 -686.34 So,686.34 yeah,686.5 before686.74 every687.77 applicant,688.65 good691.67 or691.91 bad,692.15 the693.51 chairperson693.75 reads694.47 off694.71 the695.67 health695.67 committee,695.99 building697.19 committee,697.59 you698.71 name698.87 it,699.11 five699.35 committees,699.59 no700.15 problems,700.31 no700.63 problems,700.79 no701.19 problems.701.35 And702.75 they're702.91 used703.08 sometimes703.55 there's703.88 a704.12 problem,704.2 like,704.51 they705.15 haven't705.32 gotten705.55 their705.88 insurance706.03 binder,706.6 for707.63 one707.96 day708.12 at708.36 Saint708.6 Jean,708.75 not709.08 anywhere.709.71 And712.36 that's712.51 hard712.83 because713.15 of713.96 the713.96 way714.12 the714.27 meetings714.43 are714.75 on715 the715.08 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