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first.14272.19 14272.72 BUCK14272.72 -14272.72 And14272.72 second14272.95 and14273.19 vote.14273.35 14273.83 WHITNEY14273.83 -14273.83 That's14273.83 gonna14273.83 be14273.83 the14273.92 hard14274 part.14274.24

14275.11 SPEAKER114275.11 -14275.11 So14275.11 Okay.14276.32 A14276.72 motion.14276.88

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14386.17 SPEAKER114386.17 -14386.17 Yeah.14386.17

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