Watertown Zoning Board Meeting
Wednesday October 23, 2024
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
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207.25 KENNETH207.25 LEITNER207.25 -207.25 No.207.25 And207.41 I207.57 did207.65 file207.89 the208.21 extension208.29 agreement208.77 with209.17 the209.33 city.209.49
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477.08 DALE477.08 -477.08 Oh,477.08 okay.477.24 Motion477.8 to478.28 continue478.44 it478.76 to478.84 the478.92 November479.16 20th479.48 meeting479.88 starting480.12 at480.44 7480.6 PM.480.84
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533.81 SCHREIBER533.81 -533.81 We533.81 will534.13 confirm534.37 that,535.82 Chair536.46 Santucci-Rozzi.538.38 One539.42 other539.42 point539.42 on539.74 the539.89 other540.13 motion,541.98 I542.38 just542.54 wanted542.77 to543.1 clarify,543.5 at544.62 least544.77 on545.01 our545.17 end,545.34 it545.58 sounded545.74 like546.05 you546.29 just546.46 said546.62 school,547.74 I548.46 mean,548.54 not549.94 school,551.86 Church552.26 Street552.5 but552.82 it's552.98 Church553.3 Hill.553.94 I553.94 just554.1 wanted554.26 to554.66 clarify554.98 it's555.38 Church555.54 Hill.557.14
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