Watertown Historic District Commission
Thursday May 29, 2025
The order of items in transcripts appear in the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
HARVEY15.7 STEINER15.7 -15.7 COMMISSION15.7 MEMBER15.7 -15.7 So15.7 I'm16.34 gonna16.5 call16.82 the17.05 meeting17.21 to17.54 order.17.77 The19.21 first19.45 order19.7 of20.1 business20.26 is22.26 the22.57 acceptance22.73 of23.38 minutes23.54 from24.57 the24.81 February24.98 2225.57 meeting.26.18 So,28.26 are28.34 there28.34 any28.5 edits28.82 or29.3 changes?29.38 No?40.01 40.88 LINDA40.88 STERNBERG40.88 -40.88 COMMISSION40.88 MEMBER40.88 -40.88 I40.88 didn't41.05 have41.28 any.41.52 43.68 STEINER43.68 -43.68 Okay.43.68 So44.16 I'll45.52 make45.6 a45.92 motion.46 48.97 STERNBERG48.97 -48.97 Motion48.97 to49.2 accept49.36 the49.68 minutes49.84 as50.32 presented.50.65
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52.73 SPEAKER152.73 -52.73 So52.73 Record.53.28 I'll54.38 take54.62 a54.78 58.54 poll.58.54 Tom,58.78 you59.1 were,59.34 Tom,59.66 you59.9 were60.14 here.60.38 No.60.86 So63.1 Linda?63.5 66.06 SPEAKER366.06 -66.06 Aye.66.06 68.14 SPEAKER168.14 -68.14 Robert?68.14 Aye.70 Jim?70.08 Aye.71.92 And73.67 I73.84 vote74 aye.74.48 I75.03 think75.19 that's75.52 everybody.75.84 Right?76.4 Oh,77.19 Peter?77.52 78.95 SPEAKER378.95 -78.95 Jay78.95 is79.19 just,79.36 logging80.16 in80.48 now.80.72 81.36 SPEAKER481.36 -81.36 K.81.36 Good82.56 afternoon.82.8 84.17 STEINER84.17 -84.17 Hey,84.17 Jay.84.41 We85.93 simply87.05 requested87.05 changes87.05 to87.53 his87.77 motion88.01 to89.29 approve89.53 the90.01 minutes90.81 from91.21 the91.53 February92.65 2293.33 meeting.94.01 Aye.95.53 If97.83 you98.06 don't98.31 have98.55 any98.63 changes,98.86 everybody99.83 else100.39 voted101.5 aye.101.91 No.104.31 You104.55 have104.7 to104.86 say105.03 something.105.27 SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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RESIDENT150.02 -150.02 So,150.42 we152.74 are152.98 planning153.22 to153.94 install154.66 heat156.26 pumps156.58 on157.67 the157.75 First157.82 Floor158.22 and158.71 on159.1 the159.26 Second159.43 Floor159.75 of160.39 our160.54 two-family.161.1 And162.54 each164.54 unit164.71 will165.1 have165.43 four169.82 mini-splits170.15 in170.15 each170.31 unit.171.3 So171.62 there'd171.86 be172.02 a172.1 total172.26 of172.66 eight172.74 in173.38 the174.02 house.176.66 But176.74 they176.82 will176.98 be177.22 positioned179.22 above180.26 each180.58 other180.74 on181.14 each181.38 floor.181.7 So182.9 there183.3 would183.46 be183.7 one183.94 exterior184.98 pipe,187.72 I188.04 guess188.13 you188.36 could188.53 say,188.76 channel189.49 running190.04 down190.36 the190.6 outside190.84 of191.25 the191.32 house,191.49 four192.04 locations.192.28 Two194.44 of194.69 the194.76 locations194.84 are195.81 on196.13 the196.6 side197.16 of197.41 the197.49 driveway,197.64 the198.28 driveway198.44 side,198.92 one199.41 in199.64 the199.81 back,199.97 and200.82 then200.98 there201.06 would201.26 be201.46 one201.62 in201.86 the202.02 front.202.1 The204.66 two205.06 compressors205.06 would205.86 be206.1 tucked206.5 around206.9 the207.14 corner207.38 of207.86 the207.94 house,209.22 behind210.02 a210.42 dog210.66 light.210.9 You211.62 can't211.78 see212.1 those212.42 from212.82 the213.78 street.213.94 216.05 MARC216.05 KEEPPER216.05 -216.05 RESIDENT216.05 -216.05 And216.05 probably216.28 the216.76 one216.93 other217.17 piece217.56 that's,217.89 Gideon218.84 and219.41 Susan,219.65 when220.05 we220.21 talk220.37 to220.61 them,220.69 we're221.65 trying221.89 to222.13 mitigate,222.28 the223.72 visibility223.89 by,224.84 painting225.72 the226.21 channels,226.37 staining227 the227.33 channels227.49 the227.97 same228.53 color228.76 as229.25 the,229.56 the231.13 red231.21 cedar231.61 shingles,232.09 to233.45 minimize233.69 visibility234.57 and236.01 make236.65 them236.89 blend237.21 in237.53 as237.69 much237.85 as238.17 possible.238.25 240.89 BEDROSIAN240.89 -240.89 That's240.89 essentially241.21 the241.61 scope241.77 of242.09 the242.17 project.242.25 244.5 STEINER244.5 -244.5 Does244.5 anybody244.91 have245.22 any245.47 questions?245.71 246.75 STERNBERG246.75 -246.75 I246.75 do.246.82 247.86 STEINER247.86 -247.86 Linda?247.86 249.38 STERNBERG249.38 -249.38 So249.38 I'm250.26 looking250.43 at250.66 the250.82 photos251.06 of251.38 the251.63 one252.19 that252.5 the252.91 channel253.06 or254.1 the254.43 conduit254.66 that's255.06 going255.38 vertically255.63 down256.19 the256.43 front256.58 of256.9 the256.99 house.257.14 Is258.02 there258.26 any258.43 way258.67 that259.06 you259.23 could259.38 move260.24 that260.64 to260.88 the261.12 corner,261.36 you262.72 know,262.88 over,263.12 and264.16 do264.4 you264.72 know,264.88 kind265.04 of265.28 you265.44 might265.52 have265.68 to265.84 do,265.92 have266.8 a267.2 little267.28 bit267.52 of267.68 a267.76 conduit267.92 on268.48 the268.64 inside,268.72 or270.48 is270.8 that270.88 not271.12 possible?271.36 273.36 BEDROSIAN273.36 -273.36 So273.36 there's274.35 a274.67 little274.75 jog275.31 out275.7 on276.02 the276.19 front276.35 of276.58 the276.67 house,276.75 and277.14 you're277.94 referring278.19 to278.5 having278.75 it279.06 tucked279.46 into279.79 the280.11 corner.280.26 So282.02 I282.99 think283.14 that's283.46 potential,283.87 and284.82 we're285.14 going285.46 to285.7 ask285.87 if286.19 they286.35 can286.43 do286.67 that.286.82 And287.39 I287.55 think287.71 that288.03 would288.43 minimize288.91 the289.55 exposure289.79 on290.35 the290.51 front290.59 of290.91 the290.99 house291.07 if291.39 they291.55 were292.03 tucked292.11 in292.43 that292.59 corner.292.83 Is296.67 that296.83 the297.07 main297.23 objection?298.03 299.23 STERNBERG299.23 -299.23 I've301.06 done301.3 them301.54 in301.86 my302.1 house,302.25 and302.57 I302.66 know302.81 that302.98 there's,303.13 you303.46 know,303.62 there's303.86 a304.25 lot304.34 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