Watertown Planning Board
Wednesday September 10, 2025
The order of items in transcripts is the chronological order in which they were taken up. Some Agenda items may have been skipped.
JANET15.05 BUCK15.05 -15.05 PLANNING15.05 BOARD15.05 CHAIR15.05 -15.05 This15.05 meeting15.38 is15.94 called16.1 to16.34 order.16.5 The18.26 first18.5 order18.82 of19.21 business19.3 will19.77 be19.93 the20.1 approval20.34 of20.89 the21.05 meeting21.21 minutes21.61 from21.94 July.22.18 Has24.26 everybody24.49 had24.89 a25.14 chance25.21 to25.54 review26.1 that?26.57 Can28.57 I28.81 get28.89 a29.05 motion?29.13
30.49 SPEAKER230.49 -30.49 I'll30.49 move30.73 to30.97 approve31.53 the32.57 minutes32.73 of33.21 the33.45 July34.49 934.85 meeting.35.21 Alright.36.49
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44.2 BUCK44.2 -44.2 Same.44.2 Okay.45.08 Well,46.27 anyhow,46.67 they're47.4 approved.47.72 And50.84 the51.08 next51.23 item51.55 is52.03 going52.2 to52.43 be52.52 a53.23 request53.48 for54.11 an54.43 extension54.75 for56.06 53256056.22 Pleasant58.06 Street,58.54 which59.58 got60.14 its60.3 conditional60.54 approval61.26 in61.9 2022.62.22
TED70.31 SARACENO70.31 -70.31 SARACEN70.31 PROPERTIES70.31 -70.31 Good70.31 evening,70.63 board70.95 members,71.27 Madam72.16 Chair.73.03 Ted73.03 Saraceno73.44 from73.99 Saracen74.23 Properties,74.8 and75.35 I'm76.31 very76.31 pleased76.56 that76.95 you're77.44 hearing77.67 us77.99 tonight,78.16 and79.27 I'm79.91 happy79.91 to80.31 further80.95 discuss81.35 our81.75 request81.99 for82.47 the82.63 extension.82.8 So84.23 if84.55 there,84.71 maybe85.91 I'll86.23 just86.39 start86.63 with86.87 a87.11 little87.19 preamble87.43 and88.63 just88.79 say88.95 that89.19 it89.91 seemed90.07 like90.39 yesterday90.63 that91.03 we91.19 were91.35 here.91.59 Yes.93.43 So93.83 it's,94.15 you95.19 know,95.43 Groundhog95.99 Day96.55 happening97.35 for97.83 us98.07 too98.69 often.99 Very100.2 difficult100.44 headwinds100.84 in101.24 the101.41 life101.56 science101.81 business.102.13 I'm102.52 sure102.69 you've102.84 heard103.08 that103.33 from103.56 others.103.81 I104.52 think104.6 we104.92 have105.08 a105.24 great105.33 project.105.56 We're106.05 happy106.28 to106.6 be106.69 in106.77 Watertown.107.48 It's108.77 just109 not109.88 the110.13 right110.28 time.110.52 I110.92 think,111.08 you113.12 know,113.36 I113.6 have113.84 to114.08 be114.16 an114.32 optimist114.48 in114.96 this115.04 business.115.28 There116.88 will117.04 be117.28 a117.44 good117.6 time,117.76 but118.08 it's118.32 not118.48 right118.72 now.118.96 And120 it's120.16 almost120.64 impossible121.12 to121.6 predict121.76 when,122.16 but122.48 I123.12 can,123.28 with123.76 some124 confidence,124.32 look124.96 out125.2 and125.52 say125.68 it's126 not127.17 really127.65 in128.04 the128.21 next128.28 few128.6 months.128.93 So130.76 we're131.32 all131.88 hoping132.21 for132.53 things132.69 to133.09 get133.17 better.133.41 Good134.93 things135.25 will135.49 come135.81 for136.37 this136.6 project,136.84 and,137.49 you138.04 know,138.13 we've138.44 done139.81 a139.97 lot140.13 of140.28 stuff140.44 in140.69 Watertown.140.84 I143.23 am143.79 a143.79 strong143.79 believer144.27 in144.75 good144.99 things145.23 happening145.55 for146.03 our146.67 project146.91 and148.19 would148.59 ask148.91 that149.63 we149.95 have150.19 our150.51 permits150.75 extended.151.23
155.8 BUCK-155.8 Is155.8 there156.12 anybody156.75 in157.56 the157.88 audience158.36 or159.16 on160.03 the160.28 cyber161.08 audience161.47 that162.12 has162.36 any162.84 comments163.16 on163.72 this?163.88
171.89 GIDEON171.89 SCHREIBER171.89 -171.89 CITY171.89 OF171.89 WATERTOWN171.89 -171.89 Madam171.89 chair,172.29 I172.61 just172.69 wanted173.09 wanna173.33 note173.57 that173.73 we173.89 received174.13 2174.61 public174.85 comments175.17 from175.65 the176.69 council176.93 president,177.25 Mark177.73 Sedari,177.89 and178.53 from179.17 the179.41 district179.65 councilor,179.97 Emily180.85 Izzo.181.25 So182.1 I182.26 just182.34 want182.5 to182.66 acknowledge182.75 that183.14 they183.31 had183.7 submitted183.86 some184.26 comments184.5 and184.82 suggested,185.06 you186.19 know,186.42 a186.66 time186.75 frame186.99 defining187.38 a187.78 time187.86 frame188.1 of188.34 1188.58 year188.75 for189.06 the189.22 extension.189.38 There191.54 are191.78 no191.94 hands192.19 raised192.5 at192.75 this192.91 time,193.06 and193.22 it193.38 isn't193.54 a193.86 public193.94 hearing.194.26 It's194.58 just195.54 a195.78 decision197.19 of197.67 Okay.198.23 Board198.55 is199.03 Okay.199.51 Regular200.07 business.200.55
BUCK202.79 -202.79 So202.79 open203.27 for203.59 board203.83 discussion.204.23
208.39 PAYSON208.39 WHITNEY208.39 -208.39 PLANNING208.39 BOARD208.39 MEMBER208.39 -208.39 I208.39 have208.55 a208.71 couple208.79 of209.19 questions209.19 if209.59 Rachel210.79 wants211.11 to211.35 go.211.43 So,213.72 how213.97 long214.13 of214.36 an214.53 extension214.6 are214.93 you215.08 requesting?215.25 Was216.21 there216.36 a216.53 formal216.6 letter216.84 requesting217.16 an217.56 extension?217.72 Maybe218.36 I218.69 can218.76 start218.84 there.219.16 I219.32 don't219.65 know219.88 that219.97 we220.04 ever220.21 saw220.44 that220.69 letter.220.84
BUCK221.97 -221.97 It221.97 was222.13 an222.36 attachment.222.6
SCHREIBER-224.64 I225.08 didn't225.25 mention225.49 the225.81 packet226.21 that226.69 I226.76 sent.226.83
228.57 WHITNEY228.57 -228.57 Oh,228.57 maybe228.65 I228.89 missed229.05 that.229.29 Sorry.229.53 Could232.65 you232.89 just233.05 summarize233.29 the233.69 extension?233.93 Sorry.234.33 I234.57 missed234.65 the234.89 letter.235.21
236.25 SARACENO-236.25 Yeah.236.25 Actually,236.49 Gideon,237.45 I238.17 just238.41 wanna238.65 make238.89 sure239.05 I239.21 have239.29 this239.45 right.239.69 I240.01 think240.17 we240.41 asked240.65 for241.05 3242.22 years242.45 in242.85 the243.01 in,243.41 councilor244.38 Maderas,244.94 Saderas246.13 thought246.78 1247.17 year247.41 was247.73 correct.247.97
SCHREIBER250.22 -250.22 Yeah.250.22 It251.01 outlines251.89 the251.89 economic252.13 issues253.01 and253.66 other253.97 issues254.29 with,254.61 you254.85 know,254.94 getting255.33 financing255.66 for256.13 the256.29 property.256.38 The257.51 letter,257.75 in258.15 summary,258.87 I259.03 don't259.11 have259.27 it259.43 right259.51 in259.67 front259.75 of259.91 me,259.99 but260.15 yeah.260.39 And261.27 then261.43 it261.67 outlines262.31 that262.95 there263.27 had263.43 been263.67 a263.91 request264.07 from264.55 the264.79 original.264.95 When266.79 it267.03 was267.19 first267.35 approved,267.67 we268.23 had268.47 a268.71 limit268.87 in269.19 our269.35 zoning269.51 ordinance269.83 of270.15 1270.31 year.270.55 And271.03 so271.25 then271.42 they271.5 had271.57 asked271.81 for272.06 an272.21 extension272.38 after272.94 that273.18 year273.33 for274.13 2274.38 years,274.62 which274.89 is275.5 Yep.275.5 Brings275.74 you275.98 up276.13 to276.21 the276.38 Okay.276.69 Now277.1 allowed277.42 3277.89 years.278.13 So278.62 Yeah.279.01 Although279.42 there279.81 appears280.3 to280.62 be280.77 a280.94 second281.01 extension281.33 from282.13 a282.38 perspective282.54 of,283.01 like,283.18 a283.68 project283.92 coming284.4 in284.64 today,284.8 this285.28 would285.52 be285.68 their285.84 first286 request286.24 for286.64 an286.8 extension.286.96 And,288.32 there's289.52 no289.92 definition290.16 of290.8 the291.2 time291.44 frame291.68 for291.92 a292.24 request292.32 for292.72 an292.88 extension,293.04 so293.52 they293.68 had293.92 set294.72 it294.88 up295.12 to295.36 3295.52 years.295.68 But297.36 we297.6 have,297.76 you298.4 know,298.48 examples299.78 of300.25 1-year,303.13 2-year303.3 extensions.303.3 And304.01 so304.18 I304.3 think304.42 in304.65 this304.74 case,304.98 a306.34 1-year306.65 extension306.9 makes308.5 sense,308.74 where309.06 they309.22 can309.38 come309.54 back,309.78 prior310.98 to311.3 that311.46 year311.69 expiring,312.81 to314.42 give314.42 an314.74 update314.9 if315.3 there315.46 are315.94 changes.315.94
318.02 SARACENO318.02 -318.02 And318.02 we318.26 would318.42 be318.66 fine318.74 with319.06 that.319.3 I321.46 like321.7 coming321.94 back.322.26 I322.9 like323.06 staying323.38 close323.78 to324.1 people324.66 who324.98 have325.14 watched327.56 our327.88 developments328.12 and328.6 are328.75 hopefully328.75 supportive329.15 of329.8 our330.12 next330.36 1.330.6 And331.39 I332.04 want332.12 to332.36 be332.44 deferential332.68 to333.31 Councilor333.71 Sedaris,334.27 whom335.56 I335.95 value336.12 the336.44 relationship336.68 with,337.95 and339.43 don't339.43 wanna339.67 overstep340.31 and340.95 over-ask341.59 because341.91 you've342.47 been342.63 good342.87 to343.03 me.343.19 We343.91 wanna344.15 be344.47 good344.63 back.344.87 And,345.91 so346.95 we347.51 would347.67 be347.91 happy348.87 with349.27 1349.51 year.349.75
350.55 WHITNEY350.55 -350.55 Yeah.350.55 Yeah.351.62 I351.85 just352.01 went352.33 back.352.57 I352.74 looked352.81 at353.06 the353.13 regulations353.54 about354.1 extensions,354.5 and,354.89 obviously,355.13 there's355.45 no355.69 time355.85 frame356.01 like356.18 Gideon356.41 said.356.74 But356.89 it357.06 did357.13 say357.29 it357.45 had357.62 to357.77 show358.01 good358.25 cause.358.5 And,359.13 you360.65 know,360.81 I361.54 just361.69 understand361.69 the362.1 economics362.5 of362.97 it.363.13 I'm363.38 just363.54 not363.77 sure,365.76 I365.76 don't365.84 know366.08 that366.32 that's366.48 good,366.72 cause366.96 in367.28 my367.44 mind,367.6 for367.92 an368.16 extension.368.32 I369.44 don't,369.6 I369.92 really370.16 don't370.4 think370.88 that371.2 the371.76 economics372.08 have372.56 changed372.8 that373.12 drastically373.44 since375.52 October376.32 2022.376.92 You377.52 know,377.6 the377.84 prime378 rate378.24 is378.48 basically378.64 about378.96 where379.2 it379.36 was.379.52 There380.88 have381.19 been381.35 plenty381.51 of381.83 other382 developments382.39 that382.88 have383.04 been383.19 built383.35 and384 leased384.24 and384.56 sold,384.79 in386 that386.24 time386.48 frame,386.71 and387.12 just388.24 nothing's388.56 happened388.95 with389.27 the389.44 site.389.6 And389.83 there390.56 was390.71 a390.88 standalone391.04 retail391.83 component392.31 to392.88 the393.04 site393.12 in393.35 the393.44 old393.6 satellite395.29 parking395.77 lot396.09 at396.33 Russo's.396.57 And,397.61 you397.69 know,397.85 that399.37 could399.61 have399.77 been399.93 developed400.17 in400.57 the400.81 3400.89 years401.13 and401.61 stood402.41 on402.65 its402.81 own402.97 and403.13 probably403.37 done403.69 well403.93 because,404.09 you404.49 know,404.57 other404.81 retail405.05 has405.45 been406.25 leased.406.49 It's406.81 just406.97 to407.97 see408.05 that408.29 site408.53 lying409.17 fallow409.49 for,409.97 you410.53 know,410.61 3411.32 years,411.49 and411.81 now411.97 you're412.13 asking412.29 for412.61 another,412.76 up414.21 to414.37 3414.53 years.414.76 It415.09 just415.25 does416.37 not416.61 make416.85 a417.09 lot417.17 of417.4 sense417.65 to417.88 me.418.05 I419.42 can419.58 see419.74 potentially420.3 a420.94 year,421.1 but421.42 maybe421.66 coming422.06 back422.3 in422.54 6422.7 months422.94 and423.26 saying,423.42 This424.22 is424.38 where424.46 we424.7 are,424.86 on425.82 that.425.98 Yeah.428.62 I428.86 just429.02 you429.58 know,429.66 you429.82 said429.98 that,430.22 you430.38 know,430.46 you're430.62 you430.86 have431.02 to431.1 be431.18 an431.34 optimist431.42 in431.82 your431.9 business,432.06 which432.3 is432.54 true,432.7 but432.86 I432.94 think433.02 you433.26 also433.34 have433.58 to433.66 be433.74 a433.82 realist.433.9
434.52 SARACENO434.52 -434.52 Of434.52 course.434.76
435.32 WHITNEY435.32 -435.32 And435.32 I435.4 just435.56 wonder435.81 whether436.13 the437.32 market437.4 is437.81 saying437.96 that438.29 this438.61 site438.76 and439 this439.17 development439.32 are439.81 not439.96 right440.13 for440.29 life440.44 sciences.440.69 And441.25 maybe,441.49 perhaps,441.81 it's442.85 better443.09 for443.4 something443.56 else,443.81 in444.93 that445.09 location.445.49
SARACENO446.69 -446.69 Well,446.69 point447 well447.32 taken.447.56 We,449.09 of449.4 course,449.65 are450.34 thinking450.58 about450.98 alternatives451.46 and452.1 a452.26 pivot,452.42 where,454.34 you455.06 know,455.22 we've455.46 invested455.78 so456.34 much456.5 in456.74 which456.9 we457.14 think457.3 is457.54 a457.7 great457.78 life458.1 science458.34 development,458.74 but,459.46 you460.34 know,460.58 time461.14 is461.38 not461.62 our461.94 friend.462.1 We464.15 would464.4 love464.8 to465.12 proceed465.36 with465.68 the465.84 life466 science466.31 development466.72 in467.19 the467.28 next467.44 year.467.68 I468.15 can468.31 tell468.56 you468.8 that,468.96 you469.19 know,469.36 this469.6 isn't469.75 the470.07 only470.24 life470.48 science470.72 project471.12 that471.51 we're471.68 involved471.92 with,472.31 and472.56 that472.72 as473.36 we473.51 look473.75 through474.24 Eastern475.28 Massachusetts,475.75 you477.49 know,477.65 in477.81 the478.21 best478.29 markets,478.69 which479.97 would480.21 be480.45 East480.93 Watertown481.33 being481.89 1482.13 of482.37 them,482.45 Seaport,483.25 and483.89 Cambridge,484.13 those485.65 markets486.05 are486.53 having486.69 difficulty,487.01 and487.41 they're487.57 the487.73 very487.89 best.488.21 And489.17 as489.41 you489.65 work489.81 your489.97 way490.21 away490.53 from490.85 those491.25 kinds491.65 of491.89 core492.32 markets,492.56 there493.13 is493.37 great493.85 distress.494.32 And,495.69 you497.21 know,497.37 it's497.69 where,498.09 it499.44 would499.69 be499.85 unwise,500.09 if501.76 not502 impossible,502.25 to503.85 build504 into504.25 that.504.65 That504.96 would505.13 just505.44 be505.69 more,505.85 you507.29 know,507.45 destruction.507.85 And,510.01 you511.13 know,511.29 when511.53 we511.77 undertake512.57 a512.97 project,513.13 of513.61 course,513.77 we514.01 want514.25 to514.41 do514.49 so514.73 and515.05 make515.29 sure515.45 it516.09 works.516.33 And,517.77 as518.99 I519.14 said,519.87 the520.02 timing520.26 is520.66 not520.83 now520.99 for521.23 life521.38 science,521.63 and521.95 we522.11 would522.26 very522.59 much522.75 consider523.07 a524.5 pivot524.66 away524.99 from525.23 that.525.38 We525.71 don't525.87 like526.11 the526.26 way526.42 it526.59 looks,526.75 and526.99 we527.23 can527.3 do527.46 a527.63 better527.71 job,528.02 by528.35 the528.5 way,528.66 with529.87 the530.11 landscaping530.26 and,530.9 you531.23 know,531.3 maybe531.54 put531.71 some531.95 squirm532.18 up532.5 on532.75 the532.9 fence,533.14 and533.54 make534.36 it534.52 look534.68 like535.8 there's536.12 something537.08 going537.48 on537.72 there.537.96 That,540.36 you541 know,541.24 there542.84 are543.16 some543.16 thoughts543.4 germinating543.8 within544.52 our544.92 team545.08 about545.96 how546.28 to546.44 make546.6 that546.76 pivot547 and547.32 how547.56 to547.72 make547.8 something548.04 of548.52 that548.6 because549 it's549.25 a549.32 great549.4 location.549.88
WHITNEY-550.61 It550.61 is.550.76
551.08 SARACENO-551.08 It's551.08 not551.33 the551.57 right551.73 time551.96 for552.21 life552.45 science,552.76 but553.16 maybe553.88 for554.21 something554.45 else.554.68
WHITNEY555.08 -555.08 Yeah.555.08 Absolutely.555.33 That's556.37 my556.52 exact556.76 point.557.08 And557.33 I557.4 think,557.49 you558.21 know,558.28 if558.52 we558.61 were558.68 to558.85 grant559 an559.25 extension,559.4 maybe559.73 we559.88 like560.21 we560.37 said,560.61 maybe560.76 yeah.561.16 At561.33 an561.49 interim561.57 period,562.04 we562.28 have562.45 come562.85 back563 and,563.16 like,563.33 this563.4 is563.64 where563.73 we563.88 are,564.04 and564.48 here's564.64 the564.96 remaining565.2 of565.4 this565.6 extension,566.16 so566.56 we566.8 know.566.96
567.52 SARACENO567.52 -567.52 Yes,567.52 sir.567.76
568.48 SCHREIBER568.48 -568.48 Madam568.48 Chair,568.72 I'm569.28 not569.52 sure569.68 if569.92 you're570.4 gonna570.48 talk570.72 about570.96 the572.4 acts572.48 of572.96 2024?573.36 I574.24 did574.56 wanna574.8 just575.04 note575.28 that575.44 I575.68 didn't575.76 get576 into576.16 this576.4 because576.56 this576.72 isn't576.96 a577.2 staff577.28 report,577.6 but577.92 they're578.48 they're579.44 they're579.6 very580.7 likely,581.42 a582.46 tolling582.77 of583.34 the583.5 actual583.74 permit584.05 because585.1 the585.58 state585.82 has586.13 deemed586.3 that586.54 there's586.77 an587.01 economic587.25 hardship.588.93
589.74 WHITNEY589.74 -589.74 Oh,589.74 with589.82 the589.98 permit590.13 tolling590.46 last591.1 year?591.34
SCHREIBER591.89 -591.89 Just593.18 so593.5 to593.74 keep593.82 that594.14 in594.3 mind594.46 as594.7 we594.94 discuss595.18 this,595.58 that595.82 from596.22 the596.38 state's596.54 perspective,596.94 in600.7 November600.78 2024,602.3 the603.82 governor603.98 signed605.1 the605.5 law606.9 that607.07 chapter607.3 238608.02 of608.5 the608.58 acts608.75 of608.99 2024609.14 for610.58 strengthening610.82 Massachusetts611.38 economic612.02 leadership,612.82 and614.18 section614.18 2.80,614.75 speaks615.63 to615.87 permanent616.02 extensions,616.42 which616.9 are617.14 automatic.617.3 But618.58 I618.75 think618.82 either619.23 way,619.46 they619.7 wanted619.78 to,620.11 you620.18 know,620.75 respectfully621.72 go622.36 through622.52 this622.76 process.622.92 But624.6 that624.76 would625.72 supersede625.96 anything.626.6 Even627.08 a627.32 permit627.64 that627.96 had628.12 expired628.36 could629.48 be629.72
630.2 WHITNEY-630.2 Because630.2 it630.52 was630.6 in630.68 We630.92 it,631.8 was631.88 valid632.12 on632.6 that632.68 day.633
633.32 SCHREIBER-633.32 Right.633.32 Right.633.64
634.57 WHITNEY634.57 -634.57 And634.57 how634.64 long634.88 was634.96 the635.2 tolling635.37 under635.76 that636.08 1?636.25 Was636.49 it636.64 a636.8 year?636.88
SCHREIBER637.37 -637.37 It638.08 was638.33 a638.57 2-year639.37 period641.37 from641.37 the641.37 date641.52 of641.68 expiration,641.85 but642.33 I642.49 didn't643.2 get643.52 into643.68 the643.92 details644 because644.4 they644.64 didn't644.73 ask645.04 for645.28 that645.76 tolling646.08 piece.646.57 But646.88 we647.37 did647.85 have648 a648.25 project648.33 that648.73 was648.88 paused,650.16 yeah.650.56 At650.56 the650.8 building650.88 permit651.28 phase.652.32 Had652.72 asked652.88 us653.12 about653.28 this653.52 a654.4 while654.56 ago.654.8 But655.2 sorry,656.32 didn't656.56 wanna656.56 distract656.88 from657.28 it.657.52 I657.6 know657.92 that658.08 Well,658.4 I658.64
WHITNEY658.8 -658.8 Actually,659.12 that's659.44 important659.68 information660.24 to660.64 know.660.8 Yes.661.04
SCHREIBER661.52 -661.52 Yeah.661.52 Yeah.662
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663.68 WHITNEY663.68 -663.68 Because663.68 you664 may664.08 already664.24 have664.56 your664.64 extension.664.8
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667.57 SARACENO667.57 -667.57 I'm667.57 happy668.13 to668.45 work668.62 with668.86 the669.41 board,669.5 collaboratively671.33 for672.7 a672.93 solution,673.01 and,673.82 I'm675.33 pleased675.89 to676.13 be676.21 here676.38 to676.77 be,676.93
677.57 WHITNEY-677.57 You677.67 know,677.98 see677.98 I678.29 want678.38 I678.77 personally678.93 wanna679.25 see679.5 it,679.65 you680 know,680.08 successful680.32 as680.8 well,680.88 but681.12 I'm681.36 just681.44 saying681.6 maybe681.92 the682.16 market's682.32 telling682.64 us682.96 all683.04 something.683.2
SARACENO-683.84 Yeah.683.84
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