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Watertown Zoning Board
Wednesday October 22, 2025
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MELISSA15.13 SANTUCCI-ROZZI15.13 -15.13 ZBA15.13 CHAIR15.13 -15.13 Good15.13 evening,15.38 everybody.15.7 I16.18 will16.34 call16.57 the16.89 Watertown17.3 October18.34 2218.93 Zoning19.93 Board20.18 of20.18 Appeals20.26 meeting20.73 to21.14 order.21.3 My22.1 name22.18 is22.34 Melissa22.49 Santucci-Rozzi.23.54 I'm23.94 the24.02 chair24.18 of24.41 the24.49 zoning24.57 board24.98 of25.21 appeals.25.38 What26.56 we're26.8 gonna26.96 do27.28 this27.92 evening28.16 is28.8 we're29.04 going29.28 to29.52 introduce30.16 who's30.72 here31.12 with31.36 us,31.52 for31.76 staff32 and32.32 board32.48 members.32.8 And33.92 then34.08 we34.24 have35.12 one35.44 administrative35.44 item,36.16 which37.12 is37.36 the37.92 approval38.16 of38.64 the38.8 minutes38.96 from39.28 September.39.77 And40.5 then40.58 we40.82 have40.9 one41.14 case41.45 this41.7 evening,41.94 a42.26 new42.41 case42.58 for42.98 5743.22 Pequossette44.18 Street.44.58 And45.7 then45.86 we'll46.09 be46.18 moving46.66 into46.9 an47.22 executive47.45 session48.09 at48.66 the48.9 closure49.22 of49.94 the50.18 meeting50.34 this50.73 evening.50.9 So52.05 getting52.21 to52.61 our53.01 staff53.73 all54.21 the54.37 way54.53 down54.77 to55.01 the55.17 right,55.33 we55.65 have55.89 Matt56.21 Nuebacher,57.09 one57.25 of57.25 our57.33 planners.57.49 We58.37 have58.61 Gideon58.85 Schreiber,59.25 the59.81 director59.97 of60.37 planning60.53 and60.85 zoning,61.01 Tony62.21 Mancini,62.45 our64.37 zoning64.61 enforcement64.93 officer,65.49 and65.97 Hannah66.21 Jury,66.61 our67.8 administrative67.8 specialist68.67 for69.23 zoning.69.47 I69.88 wasn't70.03 here70.19 at70.44 the70.52 last70.59 meeting.70.92 So,71.31 a71.64 warm71.8 welcome72.03 to73.16 Hannah.73.31 We're73.64 excited73.88 that74.19 you're74.44 here.74.59 And74.83 my75.16 understanding75.31 is75.88 you76.03 have76.11 a76.35 planning76.44 background,76.83 which78.28 is78.52 great.78.67 I'm78.92 sure79.08 you79.23 bring79.31 a79.56 lot79.63 to79.8 the79.95 town,80.03 and80.28 I'm80.52 sure80.67 you'll80.83 learn81.08 a81.31 lot81.39 while81.56 you're81.72 here81.88 as82.03 well.82.19 So82.44 welcome,82.68 Hannah.82.92
83.64 And84.76 then85 moving85.24 to85.8 the86.04 board86.2 members,86.52 full87.56 member,87.8 Sarah88.36 Baker,89.72 to89.88 my89.88 immediate90.04 right,90.6 full91.16 member,91.4 David91.88 Ferris92.2 and92.6 clerk92.76 to93 the93.16 board,93.56 to93.72 my93.72 left,93.88 full94.2 member,94.44 Christopher94.76 Heep.95.32 To96.05 his96.2 left,96.28 full96.84 member97 Alexander97.64 Dale.98.28 And99.08 to99.25 his99.33 left,99.64 alternate100.44 Sam101 Odemont.101.33 And102.13 noting102.44 for102.69 the102.84 record103 that103.72 Gregory104.05 Girard104.53 is105.17 absent105.97 this106.61 evening.106.77 All107.65 the107.81 members107.97 are108.2 here108.36 voting108.6 in108.92 person.109 We109.41 will109.48 not109.72 be109.89 making110.05 roll110.44 call110.69 votes110.92 tonight111.17 except111.56 exception112.74 of113.3 the113.86 executive114.42 session114.98 votes.115.06 So115.3 with115.58 that,115.86 I116.42 think116.5 everybody116.66 knows116.98 the117.62 hybrid117.7 format118.9 this119.3 evening.119.54 If119.86 you're120.02 watching120.26 from120.66 home,120.9 we121.14 will121.3 be121.38 taking121.46 public121.86 testimony.122.1 Simply123.3 raise123.62 your123.86 hand.124.02 You'll124.26 be124.5 recognized124.66 by125.22 the125.38 staff,125.54 and126.14 you'll126.3 be126.42 able126.53 to126.94 make127.09 your127.33 comments127.5 or127.97 ask128.14 any128.29 questions128.53 that128.85 you129.09 need129.25 to129.42 this129.57 evening.129.81 So130.85 moving131.01 on131.42 to132.14 the132.29 approval132.46 of133.18 the133.34 meeting133.57 minutes133.9 of134.38 09/24/2025.134.69 Is137.97 there138.14 a138.38 motion?138.53
140.2 DAVID140.2 FERRIS140.2 -140.2 ZBA140.2 MEMBER140.2 -140.2 Madam140.2 Chair,140.44 I'll140.68 make140.76 a141 motion141.08 to141.4 approve141.56 the141.96 meeting142.12 minutes142.44 of142.68 09/24/2020.142.92
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147.4 ALEXANDER147.4 DALE147.4 -147.4 ZBA147.4 MEMBER147.4 -147.4 Second.147.4
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FERRIS175.19 -175.19 Thank175.19 you,175.35 Madam175.91 Chair.176.71 57176.71 Pequossette177.35 Street,177.91 Jennifer178.31 J178.79 Chung179.11 Clark179.59 requests180.21 a180.36 special180.53 permit180.93 finding181.16 in181.49 accordance181.65 with181.97 Section183.72 4.06a,184.44 alteration184.44 of184.93 nonconforming185.08 structures185.88 to186.53 allow186.76 construction187.08 within187.56 existing187.88 nonconforming188.28 side189.08 yard189.32 setback189.65 for190.36 first190.69 floor190.84 addition191.16 above191.56 an191.88 expanded192.04 garage.192.53 This193.28 is193.44 located193.6 in194.08 the194.24 two194.48 family194.8 zoning195.44 district.195.76
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211.63 TOM211.63 TIMKO211.63 -211.63 COPPER211.63 BEECH211.63 DESIGN211.63 -211.63 I211.63 am211.94 Tom212.19 Timko,212.42 from213.31 Copper213.54 Beech213.94 Design.214.19 I214.75 am214.91 the216.26 architect216.5 for217.06 the217.38 project.217.54 Excuse221.15 me221.55 a221.71 second221.87 here.222.11 And225.31 57226.51 Pequossette227.15 is227.79 owned228.19 by228.43 Jen228.99 Chung229.39 Clark229.71 and230.27 her230.91 daughter,231.15 who231.47 is231.63 here231.79 as232.03 well.232.19 They232.91 are233.07 the233.23 future233.39 occupants233.79 of234.35 this234.51 building.234.75 And236.62 we237.97 are238.22 looking238.46 for238.78 zoning239.66 relief240.06 for241.09 modifications242.14 to242.78 the242.94 garage243.09 and243.9 first244.53 floor.245.5 But245.5 first,245.81 a246.22 little246.38 bit246.62 of246.78 background246.86 on247.59 the247.75 project.247.83 57248.55 Pequossette,249.91 it's251.43 an251.59 old,251.83 cottagey254.15 shingle254.95 style255.51 craftsman256.23 something,257.27 close259.43 to259.75 the259.91 river.260.07 And260.63 this264.42 is264.57 a,264.74 I265.69 don't265.77 know265.94 why266.1 I266.33 seem266.42 to266.57 get266.65 these266.89 unusual267.45 projects,267.94 but268.33 this268.57 one's268.74 an268.98 unusual269.13 one,269.54 in269.77 that,270.01 it270.81 was270.98 approved271.21 for271.62 construction,271.86 went272.42 through272.57 historic,272.89 earlier274.1 this274.57 year,274.74 and275.54 they275.69 were275.86 doing276.01 renovations276.25 to276.81 the276.89 main277.06 part277.3 of277.45 the277.62 house.277.69 What278.65 was278.97 discovered279.29 after279.93 the280.17 fact280.33 was280.65 that280.97 the281.21 garage281.45 itself281.93 was282.41 unstable,282.73 and284.09 not286.49 healthy286.73 to287.53 be288.09 occupied.288.81 And290.41 that291.76 was292 several293.05 months293.37 ago.293.61
297.44 Subsequently,298.17 Historic300 approved300 the300 project300.25 to300.64 go300.73 forward,300.96 with302.64 the302.88 requirement303.85 to304.32 maintain304.56 the305.05 existing305.21 facade305.52 and305.93 the306 craftsman306.17 style.306.73 The307.5 existing308.14 facade308.54 subsequently309.02 collapsed309.66 during310.14 construction.310.46 It312.3 turned313.9 out314.14 to314.38 be,314.46 none314.78 of314.94 us315.1 understood315.34 this315.82 in316.38 advance,316.78 but317.18 it317.34 was317.42 completely318.86 jerryrigged,320.46 strange322.14 stucco323 structure323.39 that323.88 was324.04 pasted324.19 over324.51 the324.75 original324.92 structure.325.31 No326.51 foundation,326.83 no327.71 supports,328.04 no328.51 anchoring,329 nothing.329.48 So,330.19 fortunately,330.6 no331 one331.24 was331.39 hurt,331.56 but331.79 the331.95 front332.19 face332.44 of332.68 the332.83 thing332.92 just333.56 fell333.79 right334.04 off.334.27 So335.79 we336.12 had336.27 to336.6 go337.39 back,337.56 not338.91 only339.07 to339.39 address339.55 the339.87 garage,340.03 but340.43 got341.39 Historic341.87 to342.35 sign342.51 off342.67 on342.99 restoring343.47 it343.87 back344.03 to344.19 more344.35 of344.51 a344.67 traditional345.07 shingle345.79 style346.19 model346.75 as347.15 opposed347.39 to347.71 this349.15 1950s349.55 stucco349.55 creation350.11 that351.23 was351.47 at353.43 some353.5 point353.75 applied353.99 to354.38 it354.46 by354.7 someone355.19 who355.58 was355.75 very355.99 excited356.46 about356.87 stuccoing.357.26
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430.78 In430.78 our430.94 discussions431.42 with431.98 zoning,432.22 one433.34 of433.42 the433.5 things433.57 we433.9 decided,434.06 or434.94 I435.74 shouldn't435.81 say436.13 we,436.38 Zoning436.78 decided,437.25 that439.5 we439.65 should439.81 do440.06 is440.21 comply440.46 with440.86 the441.1 different441.25 setbacks441.57 related442.06 to442.46 the442.69 street442.94 for443.57 the443.74 parking,443.9 and444.54 so444.78 forth.444.94 So445.18 we445.42 have445.57 pushed445.81 the446.13 face446.38 of446.62 the446.78 garage446.86 back447.18 from448.54 the449.34 original,449.58 I451.58 believe451.74 it452.06 was.452.22 It's452.94 not453.18 on453.42 here453.74 directly.454.78 But455.34 we've455.34 pushed455.58 it455.82 back455.98 about456.14 five456.46 feet,456.62 so457.42 that457.58 it457.82 complies457.9 with458.38 the459.66 zoning459.9 requirements460.38 and460.78 for461.02 parking.461.18 We464.04 are464.27 also464.44 looking464.75 to465.07 add465.24 additional465.71 living466.12 space466.44 above466.68 the467 garage467.07 since467.48 we're467.71 doing467.95 all468.19 of468.44 that468.51 work468.68 now468.92 to469.24 add469.79 additional470.12 family470.6 room470.92 space471.07 to471.39 the471.63 first472.35 floor472.6 of472.6 the472.75 structure.472.92 All474.38 of474.62 this474.78 will474.94 be475.1 in475.5 keeping475.74 with476.14 the476.38 shingle477.02 style,477.5 craftsman478.14 style,478.7 approach479.5 to480.3 the480.46 house.483.66 And483.9 I483.9 dare484.06 say484.3 it484.46 will484.54 probably484.7 look485.02 a485.18 lot485.26 better485.42 than485.74 it485.9 did486.94 over487.26 the487.5 last487.66 20488.22 years.488.54
489.81 So489.81 it's490.13 a490.37 relatively490.6 simple491.4 request.491.64 We're492.69 looking492.93 to493.16 just493.56 expand493.81 that494.28 existing494.52 nonconformity,494.93 and496.85 bring498.52 the499.64 front500.04 portions500.69 of501.4 the501.56 property501.88 into502.44 compliance502.76 with503.4 the503.64 driveway504.33 setback,504.57 the506.01 sideline506.25 driveway506.65 setback,507.05 the507.45 front507.61 property508.81 line509.21 setback,509.45 and509.85 so510.01 forth.510.17 So510.41 there's510.57 a510.89 single511.05 driveway,511.37 not512.49 the512.73 strange514.17 asphalt514.73 creation515.69 we516.17 have516.33 today.517.69 And518.17 just518.17 trying518.33 to518.65 clean519.45 it519.69 up519.77 a519.93 lot520.01 and520.25 bring520.41 it,520.65 you520.98 know,521.05 make521.21 it,521.45 basically522.33 normalize522.74 it,523.29 with523.86 respect524.1 to524.5 what524.82 Watertown's525.86 expecting526.5 at527.21 the527.45 front527.53 of527.69 a527.86 house527.93 right528.17 now528.33 with528.65 a529.13 garage.529.21
531.83 SANTUCCI-ROZZI532.39 -532.39 Does532.39 that532.63 conclude532.79 your533.19 presentation,533.35 sir?533.83
534.39 TIMKO534.39 -534.39 More534.39 or534.63 less.534.71 I535.03 think535.11 it's,535.35 you535.67 know,535.75 there's535.91 not537.19 much537.43 more537.67 to537.91 it538.07 than538.15 that.538.31
538.63 SANTUCCI-ROZZI538.63 -538.63 Okay.538.63 That's539.03 okay.539.35 We539.75 might539.99 have540.15 a540.31 couple540.39 questions540.71
541.11 TIMKO541.11 -541.11 I541.11 assume541.27 so.541.51 I542.17 assume542.25 so.542.57
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550.4 SAMUEL550.4 ODAMAH550.4 -550.4 ZBA550.4 MEMBER550.4 -550.4 Thank550.4 you,550.64 Madam551.21 Chair,551.52 and551.52 thank551.76 you551.93 for552.09 your552.4 presentation.552.64 I'm554.09 curious,554.4 given555.28 these556.16 sort556.24 of556.56 unexpected556.8 challenges557.36 that557.76 you've557.92 encountered558.32 already558.88 in559.28 earlier559.52 work559.92 done,560.64 do561.04 you561.2 anticipate561.28 any562.24 other562.56 challenges563.68 that564.08 may564.32 come564.48 from564.96 doing565.2 this565.36 work?565.6
567.29 TIMKO567.29 -567.29 I567.29 don't567.46 think567.54 so567.86 because568.1 there's568.34 not568.58 much568.74 left568.98 to569.62 challenge569.77 us.570.1 But574.01 we574.98 had575.13 to575.29 redo575.38 the575.7 foundation575.86 for576.25 the576.42 front,576.58 to577.38 rebuild578.1 the578.5 whole578.58 front578.82 facade,580.65 you580.89 know,581.05 with581.62 conventional581.86 framing582.34 and582.66 conventional583.78 foundation.584.26 So584.66 all584.9 of584.98 that585.06 has585.3 been585.46 repaired585.62 and585.94 replaced.586.1 So586.9 the587.22 garage587.38 itself,587.78 we588.1 knew,588.26 was588.58 not590.42 safe.590.74 So591.06 that591.38 will591.62 be591.78 replaced591.94 with592.9 a593.14 conventional593.3 4593.94 foot594.18 deep594.34 foundation,594.66 slab,596.57 all596.88 of597.05 the597.13 normal597.29 building597.52 code597.93 requirements598.25 will598.88 be599.05 met.599.21
600.88 ODAMAH600.88 -600.88 Thank600.88 you.601.05 Thank601.29 you,601.45 Madam602.09 Chair.602.09 That's602.09 all.602.25
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604.17 DALE604.17 -604.17 Yeah.604.17 Just604.8 to604.97 clarify605.13 a605.61 few605.76 different605.93 pieces606.57 here.606.97 So607.21 you're607.52 gonna607.76 remove608.09 the608.49 driveway609.55 piece609.95 that's610.19 currently610.43 sitting610.75 on611.07 the611.31 right611.79 hand611.95 side612.19 of612.43 the612.51 lot.612.59
612.99 TIMKO612.99 -612.99 Yeah.612.99 So,613.95 if614.19 you614.35 look614.43 at614.67 this,614.75 there's614.91 it615.15 it615.59 kinda616.03 says616.35 by616.99 two617.23 minutes617.39 concrete.618.03 There's619.15 just619.39 a,619.55 there's620.91 I622.43 guess,622.59 from622.91 the623.15 picture,623.23 you623.55 could623.63 probably623.79 see624.11 that624.27 there's,624.43 like,624.67 three624.97 or625.13 four625.29 layers625.45 of625.85 different626.09 asphalt626.73 pools.627.04
627.37 DALE627.37 -627.37 Yeah.627.37 I627.52 drove627.61 by627.85 it628 today.628.09 This628.4 is628.57 a628.61 bunch628.64 of628.88 different628.97 surfaces.629.61
630.25 TIMKO630.25 -630.25 All630.25 that630.33 up.630.49 We630.57 have630.73 to630.88 remove630.97 all631.37 of631.52 that631.61 to632.49 level632.64 it632.88 out.633.04 And633.29 so633.76 that634 part634.73 will635.04 be635.21 returned635.45 to636 vegetative636.49 status638.46 because638.46 we638.46 have638.58 a638.82 4638.9 foot639.06 setback639.38 from639.62 the639.86 driveway640.02 to640.42 the640.58 side640.66 property641.3 line.641.7
642.26 DALE642.26 -642.26 Great.642.26 And643.14 then643.38 all643.7 the643.86 parking,644.02 all644.58 the644.82 formal644.9 parking645.62 spaces646.02 would646.34 be646.5 inside646.66 the646.98 garage?647.94
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653.03 DALE653.03 -653.03 Is653.03 there,653.27 so654.08 you654.32 have654.55 noted654.72 it655.12 proposes655.2 zero655.67 on656 the656.15 parking656.39 spaces.656.79 That's657.12 part657.36 of657.43 the657.51 reason657.6 I'm657.84 asking658 the658.24 question.658.32
658.63 TIMKO658.63 -658.63 I'm658.63 sorry.658.79 Say659.03 it659.2 again?659.36
659.67 DALE659.67 -659.67 The659.67 proposal660.08 has660.55 zero660.88 proposed661.12 parking661.43 spaces.661.75 And662.15 so662.32 if662.48 you're662.55 saying662.72 there's662.88 one663.03 in663.27 front663.36 of663.51 the663.6 garage,663.67 I'm663.91 just,664.08 there664.39 may664.63 be664.79 a664.88 legal664.96 piece665.27 there,665.75 there665.75 may665.75 be666 a666.08 space666.15 for666.48 a666.55 car.666.63
667.03 TIMKO667.03 -667.03 There667.03 were667.03 no667.03 additional667.03 parking667.03 spaces.667.03
667.03 DALE667.03 -667.03 Okay.667.51 Yeah.667.84
668.97 TIMKO668.97 -668.97 We668.97 had669.21 thought669.77 about669.93 whether670.17 we670.41 could670.49 get670.73 two670.89 cars671.13 in671.37 front,671.53 but672.09 from674.33 a674.45 zoning674.57 standpoint,674.97 it's676.81 more676.97 than677.13 one.677.29
677.93 DALE677.93 -677.93 Certainly,677.93 appreciate678.73 the679.21 story679.37 with679.61 the679.77 stucco679.93 mess.681.86
681.86 TIMKO681.86 -681.86 It683.22 was683.38 exciting.683.62
684.82 DALE684.82 -684.82 I'm684.82 sure.685.13 I687.54 don't,687.7 I688.1 think688.18 that688.42 much688.74 of688.98 this689.06 looks689.22 very689.62 reasonable.689.86 It's690.18 great690.34 to690.5 have690.65 it690.82 cleaned690.98 up,691.3 and691.38 appreciate691.7 the692.18 goal693.17 of693.41 moving693.57 it693.81 back694.05 towards694.21 that694.53 original694.77 facade,695.57 and695.73 that696.05 some696.29 of696.37 the696.53 window696.61 treatments697.17 that697.57 you697.65 got697.81 drawn697.97 there.698.21 So698.53 no698.77 further699.17 questions699.41 at699.73 the699.81 time.699.89
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702.29 CHRISTOPHER702.29 HEEP702.29 -702.29 ZBA702.29 MEMBER702.29 -702.29 Thank702.29 you.702.45 And702.61 I702.77 just702.85 wanna703.01 clarify,704.13 I704.29 think704.37 I704.61 know704.69 the704.85 answer,705.01 but705.33 just705.57 for705.73 the705.89 record.706.05 Of707.5 all707.65 the707.89 nonconformities708.05 that708.86 exist709.1 with709.89 respect710.13 to710.53 the710.7 existing710.93 structure,711.5 the711.98 only712.13 one712.46 that's712.77 getting713.01 worse713.34 is713.89 the714.22 left715.5 side715.89 yard716.22 setback.716.53
717.1 TIMKO717.1 -717.1 Correct.717.1
718.05 HEEP718.05 -718.05 Thank718.05 you.718.38 That's720.15 all720.39 for720.63 me.720.71
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723.51 FERRIS723.51 -723.51 Yes,723.51 Madam723.99 Chair.724.23 Thanks.724.23 Just724.55 a724.71 couple724.79 of725.03 questions.725.11 You725.99 just726.23 answered726.63 this.726.95 I727.11 wanna727.27 make727.43 sure727.59 that727.83 I727.99 heard728.15 the728.39 answer728.47 that729.67 I729.83 thought729.99 I730.15 heard.730.31 So730.71 for730.95 the731.03 space732 right732.2 now732.4 on732.8 this732.96 plan733.13 that733.37 we're733.52 looking733.68 at,733.92 which734.16 says734.4 bituminous734.96 concrete,735.85 that's736.73 gonna737.04 be737.28 removed,738.08 the738.33 retaining738.33 walls738.8 are739.13 being739.28 removed,739.52 and740.08 that740.33 is740.64 gonna740.8 be741.04 landscaped?741.21
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972.06 SARAH972.06 BAKER972.06 -972.06 ZBA972.06 MEMBER972.06 -972.06 Thank972.06 you.972.38 Two973.34 questions.973.58 The974.14 first,974.3 what974.78 was975.02 your975.26 original975.66 plan976.3 for976.7 the976.94 garage977.1 prior977.74 to978.06 the978.3 porch978.46 collapse?978.78
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SHOW NON-ESSENTIAL DIALOGUE
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1759.25 MANCINI1759.25 -1759.25 I'm1759.25 sorry.1759.41 Say1759.65 that1759.81 again?1759.89
1760.13 DALE1760.13 -1760.13 The1760.13 overall1760.29 structure1760.61 in1761.17 whatever1761.41 format1761.73 we1762.05 expect1762.21 it1762.53 to1762.69 end1762.77 up1762.93 in.1763.09
1763.33 MANCINI1763.33 -1763.33 If1763.33 you1763.81 actually1764.05 look1764.53 at1764.85 it1765.01 at1765.97 the1766.21 120.40,1768.76 that1769.15 area1769.15 there1769.47 is1769.8 that1769.96 front1770.2 overhang1770.6 that1771.08 sticks1771.32 off1771.63 the1771.8 face1771.88 of1772.12 the1772.2 house.1772.36 Their1773.56 second1773.88 story1774.2 addition1774.6 is1774.99 where1775.23 that1775.47 571775.71 is.1776.43 That1776.76 kind1777.15 of1777.32 rectangle1777.47 that's1777.96 right1778.12 there,1778.91 that's1779.15 why1779.15 it1779.39 looks1779.56 like1779.88 in1780.12 the1780.28 way1780.36 it1780.6 is.1780.76 They1781.77 had1781.93 to1781.93 pull1781.93 it1782.17 in1782.25 to1782.41 comply.1782.57
1783.21 DALE1783.21 -1783.21 But1783.85 that1784.09 furthest1785.05 out1785.53 corner1785.77 of1786.17 that1786.33 571786.57 block1787.13 is1787.53 at1787.61 151787.85 feet,1788.17 so1788.33 it's1788.57 within1788.81 that1789.05 setback?1789.29
1789.69 MANCINI1789.69 -1789.69 Yes.1789.69 The1789.69 second1790.09 floor1790.65 part1790.65 is1790.97 at1791.29 15.1791.53 And1796.4 then1796.57 as1796.8 they1796.96 said,1797.13 the1797.52 facade1798.01 that1798.48 fell1798.8 off,1800.33 they1800.48 ended1800.48 up1800.72 having1800.88 to1801.13 redo1801.2 a1801.61 lot1801.68 of1801.85 it1801.92 because1802.09 it1802.4 was1802.48
1804.64 FERRIS1804.64 -1804.64 Yeah.1804.64 I1804.8 don't1806.33 think,1806.72 it1807.13 doesn't1807.28 seem1807.61 like1807.85 it's1808.01 drawn1809 correctly.1809.4 I1809.8 just1810.52 don't1810.76 understand1811.08 the1811.64 solid1811.96 line1812.36 at1812.76 the1813 front1813.08 of1813.32 the1813.4 house1813.48 that1813.8 is1814.04 to1814.2 the1814.36 left1814.52 of1814.68 the1814.84 garage.1815 I1817 don't1817.16 know1817.32 what1817.4 that1817.56 is.1817.72 I1818.04 mean,1818.12 if1818.36 that's1818.44 the1818.68 front1818.84 corner1819.08 of1819.32 the1819.4 garage,1819.48 I1819.8 don't1819.96 understand1820.12 what1820.6 the1820.92 line1821.08 is1821.32 in1821.48 front1821.64 of1821.88 the1821.96 house.1822.12
1824.72 SANTUCCI-ROZZI1824.72 -1824.72 Okay.1824.72 That1828.09 is1828.96 the1829.29 outline1829.53 of1829.92 the1830.09 second1830.64 floor.1831.13 Is1831.13 that1831.29 correct,1831.44 Tony?1831.92
1834.48 MANCINI1834.48 -1834.48 Which1834.48 part1834.96 of1835.2 it?1835.29 I'm1835.44 sorry.1835.61 If1836.37 I'm1836.45 looking1836.69 at1836.93 number1837.17 5,1837.33 is1837.57 that1837.73 the1837.81 one1837.89 we're1838.05 looking1838.21 at?1838.45
1838.61 FERRIS1838.61 -1838.61 On1838.61 the1838.77 drawing1839.25 where1839.65 it1839.97 says1840.13 what1840.37 you1840.61 just1840.77 said,1840.93 sill1841.17 equals1842.37 120.401845.17 and1845.41 the1845.41 solid1845.65 line1846.05 directly1846.37 under1846.85 that1847.09 text.1847.41 That's1848.14 what's1848.38 throwing1849.11 me1849.42 off.1850.55 To1850.63 me1850.63 that1852.46 looks1852.7 like1852.94 it's1853.11 drawn1853.27 that1853.59 that's1853.74 just1854.46 the1854.87 outline1855.11 of1855.51 the1855.66 house.1855.83 But1856.55 what1856.7 we're1856.87 saying1857.11 is1857.27 know1857.51 that1857.66 that's1857.83 the1858.14 outline1858.3 of1858.7 the1858.94 existing1859.27 garage.1859.9 So1861.52 I1861.68 don't1861.84 understand1862.08 why1862.56 that1862.96 front1863.36 line1863.68 of1864 the1864.16 existing1864.32 garage1864.72 is1865.52 drawn1865.76 all1866.24 the1866.4 way1866.48 in1866.64 front1866.8 of1867.12 the1867.28 house.1867.44
1869.44 DALE1869.44 -1869.44 I1869.84 think1869.92 it's1870.16 drawn1870.32 to1870.64 the1870.72 original1870.88 pre1871.76 collapse1872 structure.1872.48
1873.69 FERRIS1873.69 -1873.69 No.1873.69 When1873.78 you1873.93 look1874.1 at1874.17 the1874.34 photographs,1874.58 the1875.05 garage1875.29 projects1875.69 forward1876.17 of1876.58 the1876.65 house.1877.21 So1878.58 that's,1878.73 anyhow,1879.05 I'm1879.53 being1879.93 thrown1880.17 off1880.49 by1882.41 the1882.73 variety1884.1 of1884.58 lines1884.73 on1885.05 the1885.69 survey1886.17 and1887.15 then1887.39 by1887.71 the1888.11 proposed1889.55 dimension1890.67 of1891.15 13.11891.39 on1893.07 the1893.23 chart1893.47 in1895.23 terms1895.47 of1895.71 just1895.87 my1896.51 grasp1896.75 of1897.15 what's1897.31 being1897.55 presented.1897.79 But1898.59 it's1899.47 good1899.79 and1899.95 reassuring1900.11 to1900.59 hear1900.75 you1900.91 say1901.07 that1901.31 the1901.47 second1901.87 floor1902.19 of1902.19 the1902.27 house1902.43 is1902.67 in1902.84 fact1903.08 beyond1903.96 the1904.36 151904.52 feet1904.91 setback.1905.15
1906.6 MANCINI1906.6 -1906.6 Yeah.1906.6 When1906.84 they1907.39 were1907.48 applying1907.8 for1908.2 one1908.6 of1908.84 the1908.99 original1909.15 designs,1909.63 which1910.12 Mr.1910.6 Timko1910.99 was1911.39 not1911.56 part1911.72 of,1912.67 they1912.84 did1912.84 bring1913.15 it1913.39 out1913.63 all1914.36 the1914.52 way1914.6 to1914.91 that1915.08 roof1916.16 line.1916.4 And1917.2 I1917.36 said,1917.6 if1917.92 you1918.08 wanna1918.24 do1918.48 that,1918.64 board1919.2 of1919.44 appeals.1919.6 So1920.4 they1920.64 decided1921.28 that1921.76 they1921.92 redraw1922.16 and1922.64 pull1922.8 it1923.12 back1923.28 so1924.08 that1924.24 that1924.48 one1924.64 corner1924.88 is1925.36 at1925.68 that1925.84 point.1926.08
1926.72 FERRIS1926.72 -1926.72 Yeah.1926.72 Thank1927.68 you.1927.92 It1929.52 might1929.76 just1929.92 be1930.24 me,1931.12 but1931.28 I'm1931.36 confused1932.32 by1932.95 some1933.28 of1933.52 the1933.6 lines1933.67 on1933.99 the1934.56 survey.1934.63
1935.19 TIMKO1935.19 -1935.19 It1935.19 is1935.28 a1935.43 confusing1935.6 site1935.99 plan.1936.32 Yes.1937.76
1940.88 FERRIS1940.88 -1940.88 So,1941.67 I'll1941.91 stop1942.32 at1942.71 that1942.88 point.1942.95 Okay.1943.36 Yeah.1943.6 Thank1943.91 you.1944.15 Thank1945.18 you.1945.5
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1964.44 SANTUCCI-ROZZI1964.44 -1964.44 Okay.1964.44 So1966.61 we1966.77 will1967.01 close1967.57 the1967.88 hearing.1968.04 And1968.37 then,1968.53 again,1968.77 just1969.09 to1969.4 kinda1969.57 recap,1969.88 I1970.44 appreciate1970.61 the1971.24 comments1971.8 tonight1972.2 and1972.53 also1972.68
1973.09 TIMKO1973.09 -1973.09 Just1973.09 want1973.24 a1973.48 public1973.57 comment.1973.96 Miss1974.68 Chung1975.01 Clark1975.24 did1975.57 speak1976.06 to1976.22 neighbors,1976.38 and1977.02 at1978.14 least1978.3 one1978.54 of1978.7 them1978.78 was1978.94 fully1979.18 supportive1979.42 of1979.98 the1980.06 change.1980.14
1980.7 SANTUCCI-ROZZI1980.7 -1980.7 Okay.1980.7 Great.1981.1 Usually,1981.98 when1982.38 they're1982.54 not,1982.78 they're1982.94 here.1983.18 So1983.34 Yeah.1983.66
1984.22 TIMKO1984.22 -1984.22 Well,1984.22 the1984.54 property1985.18 to1985.66 the1985.82 left1985.98 is1986.46 an1986.7 apartment1986.86 building,1987.26 and,1987.66 you1988.18 know,1988.27 those1988.42 are1988.51 always1988.74 a1989.07 little1989.14 weird1989.31 to1989.63 get1989.71 people1989.95 to1990.27 turn1990.35 out.1990.59 You1990.74 know?1990.9
1991.22 SANTUCCI-ROZZI1991.22 -1991.22 Yeah.1991.22
1991.63 TIMKO1991.63 -1991.63 The1991.63 owners1991.79 don't1992.11 usually1992.27 care1992.59 and1992.83 the1992.98 tenants1993.07 don't1993.38 come1993.38 out.1993.38
1993.38 SANTUCCI-ROZZI1993.38 -1993.38 Yeah.1993.38 Yep.1994.03 So,1996.18 again,1996.59 just1996.98 to1997.22 recap,1997.38 we1998.35 have1998.59 the1998.98 proposed1999.55 new2000.11 garage2000.42 with2001.07 the2001.31 22001.46 foot2001.71 first2002.35 floor2002.66 overhang,2002.66 noting2004.61 that2005.01 those2005.25 setbacks2005.65 are2006.13 conforming.2006.29 We2007.89 do2008.13 have2008.29 alterations2009.17 to2010.21 the2011.49 side2011.73 yard2011.97 going2012.69 from2013.01 9.62013.17 to2014.05 7.5.2014.21 And2016.29 then2016.45 there2016.61 were2016.85 some2017.09 alterations2017.33 to2017.97 the2018.13 structure2018.29 based2018.92 on2020.37 the2022.05 inspection2022.05 and2022.61 opinion2022.77 of2023.24 the2023.88 zoning2024.13 enforcement2024.45 officer.2025.01 That2025.4 work2025.64 is2025.97 continuing.2026.85 Okay.2031.74 So2033.02 we're2033.42 only2034.14 giving2034.46 relief2034.78 for2035.1 the2035.26 garage,2036.86 correct?2039.34
2039.34 MANCINI2039.34 -2039.34 Yes.2039.34 It2039.74 would2039.9 be2040.14 for2040.3 the2040.46 side2040.62 of2040.86 the2040.94 garage2041.1 as2041.66 the2041.9 front2042.78 setback2043.1 now2043.9 conforms.2044.3 And,2045.18 yes,2045.73 as2046.06 Gideon2046.13 just2046.54 said,2046.7 and2047.1 the2047.41 second2047.82 story.2047.82
2047.82 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2047.82 -2047.82 And2047.82 we2049.97 talk2050.22 about,2050.78 within2051.34 the2051.82 nonconforming2052.05 front2053.18 and2054.05 side2054.38 yard.2054.38 So2054.38 what2054.61 are2055.89 we2056.05 referencing2056.22 the2056.78 front2056.93 for?2057.26
2058.96 MANCINI2058.96 -2058.96 I2058.96 believe2059.12 that2059.44 reference2059.68 came2060.16 because2060.4 at2060.88 the2061.12 start,2061.28 when2061.84 we2062 originally2062.4 took2062.96 this2063.12 in,2063.28 they2063.6 were2063.84 gonna2064 keep2064.32 it2064.64 at2064.96 a2065.12 182065.92 foot,2066.4 but2066.72 then2066.88 we2067.76 discussed2068 and2068.4 pulled2068.72 it2068.96 back2069.12 to2069.28 that2069.44 222069.68 foot2070.24 to2070.56 comply.2070.72
2071.44 DALE2071.44 -2071.44 For2071.44 the2071.44 parking?2071.6
2072.08 MANCINI2072.08 -2072.08 For2072.08 the2072.16 parking.2072.32 Right.2072.72
2073.51 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2073.51 -2073.51 Okay.2073.51 For2073.82 the2074.07 parking.2074.22 Okay.2075.26 Because2075.51 they2075.91 have2075.98 they2077.03 have2077.26 one2077.43 spot2077.66 in2078.07 the2078.14 front2078.3 and2078.86 they2079.03 have2079.18 the2079.34 buffers.2079.51
2080.3 SCHREIBER2080.3 -2080.3 Half2081.26 a2081.43 spot.2081.51 Half2081.91 a2082.07 spot.2083.26 It2083.43 had2083.43 been2083.59 historically2083.82 used2084.3 as2084.55 a2084.7 parking2084.78 spot,2085.18 but2086.23 it2086.28 was2086.33 only2086.37
2086.47 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2086.47 -2086.47 They2086.47 don't2086.63 need2086.79 it2086.95 to2087.11 comply2087.27 anyways.2087.67
2088.39 SCHREIBER2088.39 -2088.39 So2088.39 but2088.55 now2088.71 it'll2088.87 be2089.83 a2090.07 full2090.15 spot2090.39 parking2090.71 space.2091.11
2091.43 MANCINI2091.43 -2091.43 And2091.43 the2091.67 house2091.75 will2091.99 comply.2092.23
2094.15 SCHREIBER2094.15 -2094.15 So2094.15 their2094.39 original2094.71 proposal2095.11 would2095.51 make2096.55 it2096.79 better2097.19 but2097.51 still2097.83 be2098.07 nonconforming,2098.31 and2099.49 then2099.74 they2099.82 altered2100.22 that2100.61 during2100.78 the2101.02 process2101.18 to2101.49 make2101.66 it2101.97 conforming2102.22 for2102.7 parking.2102.93
2103.66 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2103.66 -2103.66 Okay.2103.66 So2108.78 we2109.02 just2109.18 need2109.49 a2109.66 finding2109.74 for2110.05 the2110.22 side2110.38 yard.2110.61 Okay.2112.51 Alright.2113.23 Are2114.99 there2115.15 any2115.23 motions?2115.39
2116.75 FERRIS2116.75 -2116.75 Madam2116.99 Chair,2117.31 for2117.31 572117.63 Pequossette2118.27 Street,2118.75 I'll2118.99 make2119.15 a2119.31 motion2119.39 to2119.63 approve2119.87 the2120.35 special2120.51 permit2120.91 finding2121.31 for2121.79 a2123.07 side2123.23 yard2123.39 setback.2123.71
2124.79 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2124.79 -2124.79 There's2124.79 been2125.11 a2125.18 motion2125.34 made2125.66 for2125.99 approval2126.22 of2126.86 the2127.11 side2127.51 yard2127.83 setback2128.07 for2128.55 572128.7 Pequossette.2129.34 Is2129.99 there2130.22 a2130.39 second?2130.47
2131.03 HEEP2131.03 -2131.03 Second.2131.03
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2147.69 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2148.41 -Okay.2148.41 So,2148.41 what2148.89 we're2149.05 going2149.29 to2149.61 do2149.85 now2150.09 is,2150.65 we2151.61 are2151.85 going2152.25 to2152.65 close2154.16 the2154.88 open2155.28 portion2156.16 session2156.8 of2157.43 the2157.59 meeting2157.76 this2158.16 evening.2158.39 The2159.59 board2159.84 is2160.39 going2160.72 to2161.03 make2161.59 a2161.84 motion2161.99 to2163.28 enter2164.07 into2164.64 executive2165.43 session2166.07 and2167.23 not2167.47 return2167.63 to2168.59 the2168.91 full2169.55 session.2169.87 Is2171.23 there2171.39 a2171.47 motion2171.55 to2171.95 that2172.03 effect?2172.27
2174.03 FERRIS2174.03 -2174.03 So2174.03 moved.2174.27
2174.91 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2174.91 -2174.91 Is2175.07 there2175.23 a2175.23 second?2175.31
2175.79 DALE2175.79 -2175.79 Seconded.2178.11
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2200.79 SANTUCCI-ROZZI2200.79 -2200.79 So,2200.79 again,2201.11 thank2201.83 you,2201.99 to2203.36 our2203.51 counsel2203.67 for2204.15 reminding2204.47 me.2204.88 Again,2205.51 we2205.84 are2206.07 entering2206.32 into2206.88 executive2207.19 session2207.84 pursuant2208.23 to2208.8 General2212.55 Laws2212.71 Chapter2212.71 30a,2212.71 Section2212.71 21a2212.71 and2212.71 32212.95 to2213.28 discuss2213.43 strategy2213.84 relating2214.32 to2214.71 pending2214.88 litigation2215.19 known2215.91 as2216.15 First2216.32 Path2216.64 Inc2217.03 et2218.6 al2218.92 versus2218.92 Watertown2219.48 zoning2220.04 board2220.44 of2220.68 appeals,2220.76 Massachusetts2221.24 Land2221.96 Court2222.2 case2222.52 number2222.92 23,2223.24 miscellaneous2224.6 000619,2225.64 and2227.88 252229 miscellaneous,2229.96 I2229.96 think2230.04 that's2230.28 what2230.44 that2230.6 means,2230.76 00087.2231.08 And2233.03 the2233.18 University2233.43 Prints2234.14 Building2234.55 LLC2234.95 et2236.39 al2236.95 versus2236.95 City2236.95 of2236.95 Watertown2237.18 zoning2237.82 board2238.14 of2238.39 appeals,2238.47 Massachusetts2238.95 Land2239.82 Court2240.14 case2240.14 number2240.47 25,2240.79 miss2242.14 000265,2242.63 all2245.11 concerning2245.34 9-1132245.99 Boyd2247.58 Street.2247.82 If2248.14 the2248.3 chair2248.46 declares2248.78 that2249.18 discussing2249.5 these2249.9 matters2250.14 in2250.46 an2250.62 open2250.78 meeting2251.1 may2251.5 be2251.58 detrimental2251.82 effect2252.38 on2253.18 the2253.34 litigation2253.58 position2254.22 of2254.7 the2254.86 zoning2255.02 board2255.34 of2255.58 appeals,2255.74 a2256.62 vote2256.78 regarding2257.02 whether2257.5 or2257.82 not2257.9 to2258.06 go2258.14 into2258.3 executive2258.78 session2259.42 is2259.98 expected,2260.22 and2260.7 votes2260.94 may2261.26 occur2261.42 during2261.74 the2262.13 executive2262.28 session.2262.92 So,2263.8 we2264.2 did2264.36 have2264.68 a2264.92 motion2265.89 made2266.92 by2266.92 Member2267.24 Ferris2267.64 and2268.53 a2268.84 second2269.01 by2269.57 Member2269.8 Dale,2270.2 noting2270.92 the2271.57 purpose2271.8 for2272.2 the2272.44 executive2272.61 session.2273.32
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